RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[janet gross]

Hi Sieghard,
Yes, I am concerned about the disability aspect , as I need to keep these 
letters for future references, so I will need to read them from time to time.  
Although, I think your on to something when you say if I save these letters 
with VDScan it might change the format.  I had a sighted person from his office 
to just use his printer-scanner to scan the letters, and email them to me, and 
I can now read them just fine on my Computer, but not if I scan and save with 
VDScan though.  So this is something I just learned.
Thank you.

Janet
Janet

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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 12:26 PM
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If you are not concerned with accessibility simply take a picture of the letter 
and send it to your sighted contacts.
If you use VD Scan the formatting may be different and of course any fonts, 
underlined items and so on would be lost.

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Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you are not concerned with accessibility simply take a picture of the letter 
and send it to your sighted contacts.
If you use VD Scan the formatting may be different and of course any fonts, 
underlined items and so on would be lost.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:51 PM
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Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I’m wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I’ve scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can’t understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
I'm going to scan those letters, and I will scan  them in text so I can send 
them to my Computer so I can read them myself.  I will then scan them and save 
in PDF format for sighted people.  I just don't understand why I can read most 
PDF files with Adobe, but not these  letters.  As far as I know these letters 
were just typed on a Computer.  So I don't think there is anything fancy about 
the letters.

Thank you so much.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 5:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

If the content is the most important thing, text files can be read by sighted 
folks.
If you are trying to come close to the original format, then save it as PDF and 
make sure the name means something to you.
If you cannot read the PDF with your screen reader, contact Winston Chen.
Or, save it first as PDF for the sighted people who you want to read it, then 
as text for yourself.

HTH,


Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

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gross
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[janet gross]

Hi Lisa,
Yes, that is what I want to keep the original format for sighted people.  I 
will now scan and save in PDF format for the sighted people.  I will then scan 
and save in text and send it to my Computer, so I can read it myself.

Thank you so much, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet
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Hi, Janet.  If you're positive that the whole letter has been scanned, PDF is 
your best bet.  A text only copy would remove most formatting if that is what 
you're wanting to preserve.





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On 10/16/2023 4:50 PM, janet gross wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I'm wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I've scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can't understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[Richard Turner]

If the content is the most important thing, text files can be read by sighted 
folks.

If you are trying to come close to the original format, then save it as PDF and 
make sure the name means something to you.

If you cannot read the PDF with your screen reader, contact Winston Chen.

Or, save it first as PDF for the sighted people who you want to read it, then 
as text for yourself.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

 

Hi Everyone, 

I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and send them 
to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted people.  I need 
these letters to look just like the original letters.  My problem is if I scan 
them and save them as a text file, and send them to my Computer, I can read 
them, but I’m wondering if the sighted people will be able to read them too.  
I’ve scanned them and saved them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, 
but I can’t understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how 
to save these letters so sighted people can read them?   

 

Thank you all in advance. 

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Question Plese.

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Janet.  If you're positive that the whole letter has been scanned, 
PDF is your best bet.  A text only copy would remove most formatting if 
that is what you're wanting to preserve.




Lisa Belville
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On 10/16/2023 4:50 PM, janet gross wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I have some letters I want to scan them with VDS on my XR iPhone, and 
send them to my Computer so I will have them to send to some sighted 
people.  I need these letters to look just like the original letters.  
My problem is if I scan them and save them as a text file, and send 
them to my Computer, I can read them, but I’m wondering if the sighted 
people will be able to read them too.  I’ve scanned them and saved 
them as a PDF file, and sent them to my Computer, but I can’t 
understand a word of the PDF.  So can someone please advise me how to 
save these letters so sighted people can read them?


Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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Re: voice dream scanner question

[Donna Casteen]

Go into the app's settings & confirm that edge detection is on. When aligning the phone with a page, the higher the tone the more the page is properly aligned. The lower the tone pitch the less the page is aligned.Donna







Hello:
I used the voice dream scanner for the first time today.  However, it read half the page from left to right but not the entire information.  What do I need to do to correct this?  Thanks in advance.
Louise






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Re: voice dream scanner question

[Richard Turner]

In my experience, if it doesn't read the whole page, it is because it did not see the whole page. Try holding the camera a little higher above the document.I recommend about 12 inches. Make sure the camera is above the center of the page.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 19, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:







Hello:
I used the voice dream scanner for the first time today.  However, it read half the page from left to right but not the entire information.  What do I need to do to correct this?  Thanks in advance.
Louise






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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Impressed Me

[dlmlaochi]

It impresses me too, but I’d like remedial guidance with this. Sometimes I get 
the result I want, sometimes I don’t get the whole page. I tend to scan single 
sheets when I need to sign something and then return the document. I don’t use 
a stand. I turn edge detection on even though the cryptic manual doesn’t seem 
to imply that it is necessary. Then I try to listen for the strongest tone. Are 
there any other tricks to it. Also, and less important, I tried scanning a book 
page with it and unless I hear differently, I’ll stay with my flatbed for that, 
which I do less and less anyway.
 
 
 
 
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Levegnale
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 9:37 AM
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hi, I also have  voice dream scanner and absolutely love it! Glad you like it 
too. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!



On Mar 13, 2023, at 9:04 AM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
 
I discovered that too. I used it the other day to read my wife's new State ID.
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Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 11:06 PM
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Impressed Me
 
Wow! Voice Dream Scanner is damn impressive!
For the first time in my life, a software read my new credit card information 
to me with 100 percent accuracy and using that information, I activated the 
card independently!
Isn’t it great?
Thanks!
 
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Impressed Me

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, I also have  voice dream scanner and absolutely love it! Glad you like it 
too. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Mar 13, 2023, at 9:04 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I discovered that too. I used it the other day to read my wife's new State ID.
> - Original Message -
> From: Fazil M.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 11:06 PM
> Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Impressed Me
> 
> Wow! Voice Dream Scanner is damn impressive!
> For the first time in my life, a software read my new credit card information 
> to me with 100 percent accuracy and using that information, I activated the 
> card independently!
> Isn’t it great?
> Thanks!
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Impressed Me

[Robert Doc Wright]

I discovered that too. I used it the other day to read my wife's new State ID.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fazil M. 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 11:06 PM
  Subject: Voice Dream Scanner Impressed Me


  Wow! Voice Dream Scanner is damn impressive!

  For the first time in my life, a software read my new credit card information 
to me with 100 percent accuracy and using that information, I activated the 
card independently!

  Isn’t it great?

  Thanks!

   


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Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Mary Otten]

I had occasion to use the scanner again this afternoon, and my tone was back. I 
didn’t do anything. I didn’t uninstall the app. I didn’t even restart my phone 
since yesterday. And the tone is back. No idea what happened.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> And I'm not saying this is what happened, but I have accidentally closed an 
> app using this method because I forgot to change the option from close to 
> activate.
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 9:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> Cj, That's good to know.  Did not realize you could close an app that way.   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 8:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> You could have also closed an app by flicking up or down to get to the close 
> option and then double tapping. The close option will continue to be 
> selected, so you can just double tap on an app to close it until you flick up 
> or down to switch to the action option. I'm not saying you did this though.
> 
> --
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 1:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> No, I did not closethe appTo close the app, I would have needed to swipe up 
> with 3 fingers on the active app.  .  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 11:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> It sounds like what you’re saying is that you closed out the scanner from the 
> app switcher. You said you went in there and single finger tapped it which 
> means it closed. That didn’t do anything for me.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:23 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
>> 
>> I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did 
>> with the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and 
>> single finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that 
>> helps.  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
>> 
>> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
>> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. 
>> But I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when 
>> you’re trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and 
>> the tone is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I 
>> got some text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do 
>> use that tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent 
>> update and how can I get it back?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Christopher Chaltain]

And I'm not saying this is what happened, but I have accidentally closed an app 
using this method because I forgot to change the option from close to activate.

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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

Cj, That's good to know.  Did not realize you could close an app that way.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

You could have also closed an app by flicking up or down to get to the close 
option and then double tapping. The close option will continue to be selected, 
so you can just double tap on an app to close it until you flick up or down to 
switch to the action option. I'm not saying you did this though.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 1:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

No, I did not closethe appTo close the app, I would have needed to swipe up 
with 3 fingers on the active app.  .  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 11:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

It sounds like what you’re saying is that you closed out the scanner from the 
app switcher. You said you went in there and single finger tapped it which 
means it closed. That didn’t do anything for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:23 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did with 
> the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and single 
> finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[khevener]

Cj, That's good to know.  Did not realize you could close an app that way.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

You could have also closed an app by flicking up or down to get to the close 
option and then double tapping. The close option will continue to be selected, 
so you can just double tap on an app to close it until you flick up or down to 
switch to the action option. I'm not saying you did this though.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 1:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

No, I did not closethe appTo close the app, I would have needed to swipe up 
with 3 fingers on the active app.  .  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 11:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

It sounds like what you’re saying is that you closed out the scanner from the 
app switcher. You said you went in there and single finger tapped it which 
means it closed. That didn’t do anything for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:23 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did with 
> the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and single 
> finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Christopher Chaltain]

You could have also closed an app by flicking up or down to get to the close 
option and then double tapping. The close option will continue to be selected, 
so you can just double tap on an app to close it until you flick up or down to 
switch to the action option. I'm not saying you did this though.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 1:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

No, I did not closethe appTo close the app, I would have needed to swipe up 
with 3 fingers on the active app.  .  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 11:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

It sounds like what you’re saying is that you closed out the scanner from the 
app switcher. You said you went in there and single finger tapped it which 
means it closed. That didn’t do anything for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:23 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did with 
> the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and single 
> finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[khevener]

No, I did not closethe appTo close the app, I would have needed to swipe up 
with 3 fingers on the active app.  .  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 11:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

It sounds like what you’re saying is that you closed out the scanner from the 
app switcher. You said you went in there and single finger tapped it which 
means it closed. That didn’t do anything for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:23 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did with 
> the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and single 
> finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Richard Turner]

Check if you have a lot of apps open.  Clear the app switcher.
If that doesn't do it, try rebooting.

Then, the usual last resort, delete the app and reinstall it, but that should 
not be needed.
HTH,

Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

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礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

Yes. That’s not the problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you check your mute switch?
> I used it today and the tone worked fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 5:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Mary Otten]

Yes. That’s not the problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 9:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you check your mute switch?
> I used it today and the tone worked fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 5:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
> 
> 
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Richard Turner]

Did you check your mute switch?
I used it today and the tone worked fine.



Richard
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which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 5:54 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But I 
just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re trying 
to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone is 
supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some text, 
although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that tone. I 
wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and how can I 
get it back?
Mary


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Re: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[Mary Otten]

It sounds like what you’re saying is that you closed out the scanner from the 
app switcher. You said you went in there and single finger tapped it which 
means it closed. That didn’t do anything for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 6:23 PM, kheve...@fuse.net wrote:
> 
> I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did with 
> the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and single 
> finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that helps.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me
> 
> I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
> recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But 
> I just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re 
> trying to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone 
> is supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some 
> text, although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that 
> tone. I wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and 
> how can I get it back?
> Mary
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RE: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

[khevener]

I have had times where the tone was not there, regardless of what I did with 
the volume.  I got it working again by going to the ap switcher and single 
finger double tapping scanner and it works like expected.  Hope that helps.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:54 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Voice dream scanner lost its scan tone for me

I just had occasion to scan something with voice dream scanner. There was a 
recent update, and I have not used the scanner outside of the Reader app. But I 
just did it and when I open the app, that tone that you get when you’re trying 
to line up a scan didn’t happen. I checked in settings, and the tone is 
supposed to be on. The scanner works. I captured an image and I got some text, 
although it wasn’t as good as it might’ve been. I really do use that tone. I 
wonder if anybody else lost their tone following a recent update and how can I 
get it back?
Mary


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Re: Voice dream scanner and voice dream reader.

[Larry Smith]

Got it! Thanks

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> Go to the add button and it should be the first option. If it is not there 
> you need to go to settings and make sure that it is checked as an available 
> source
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi list. It’s been a while since I used voice dream reader. However, I seem 
>> to remember that you could use VDR scanner to scan a document within the VDR 
>> reader app. I can’t seem to find a scan document option within the app.  Has 
>> this changed or am I missing something? Thanks
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Re: Voice dream scanner and voice dream reader.

[Richard Turner]

You may find it is the last item unless you have reordered them. But for sure, 
go to settings, content sources and make sure it is enabled.





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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 5:49 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
> Go to the add button and it should be the first option. If it is not there 
> you need to go to settings and make sure that it is checked as an available 
> source
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 7:22 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list. It’s been a while since I used voice dream reader. However, I seem 
>> to remember that you could use VDR scanner to scan a document within the VDR 
>> reader app. I can’t seem to find a scan document option within the app.  Has 
>> this changed or am I missing something? Thanks
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Re: Voice dream scanner and voice dream reader.

[Thom Spittle]

Go to the add button and it should be the first option. If it is not there you 
need to go to settings and make sure that it is checked as an available source

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 7:22 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
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> Hi list. It’s been a while since I used voice dream reader. However, I seem 
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> reader app. I can’t seem to find a scan document option within the app.  Has 
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey guys and girls,

Can we pull the plug on this now,
Be for the world gets out of hand anymore than it is.

 Things like this arent' worth getting waund up about.

 So lets ignore it and move on.

There are already enough wars in this world 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Wednesday, 29 December 2021 11:36 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Richard; as you may or may not know I have the upmost respect for you. I enjoy 
reading your post as well as other people‘s posts. I’ve learned a lot from you 
byreading your posts and I would never insult you or do anything that would 
hurt you. We all have to lift up one another and help one another. Take care 
God bless Anthony 

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anthony,
> Thanks for clearing that up.
> In the future be sure to state you are kidding somewhere in your message, or 
> indeed, your reputation will go into the toilet.
>  
> And, I know I need no one’s permission, I’m a stubborn/independent sole. 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
> to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on 
> contributing to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my 
> reputation so Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need 
> my permission or anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
> one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>  
> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
> their time.
>  
> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
> things in which I am interested.
>  
> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
> working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
> because the technology is so much better now.
>  
> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
> wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
> well spent.
>  
> Richard
> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Richard Turner]

Anthony,

Thanks for clearing that up.

In the future be sure to state you are kidding somewhere in your message, or 
indeed, your reputation will go into the toilet.

 

And, I know I need no one’s permission, I’m a stubborn/independent sole. 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site;  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

 

I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on contributing 
to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my reputation so 
Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need my permission or 
anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!





On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
one’s use of time; but here I am again.

 

First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with their 
time.

 

Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
things in which I am interested.

 

Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
because the technology is so much better now.

 

Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
well spent.

 

Richard

“If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

I am really sorry if I rubbed anybody the wrong way. I certainly didn’t mean 
to. I was speaking figuratively tongue an cheek. I pridemyself  on contributing 
to this list and the last thing I would want to do is damage my reputation so 
Richard scan all the books you want. You certainly don’t need my permission or 
anyone’s permission to do it take care happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message 
>> about one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>>  
>> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
>> their time.
>>  
>> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
>> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
>> things in which I am interested.
>>  
>> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I 
>> was working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good 
>> thing, because the technology is so much better now.
>>  
>> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that 
>> I wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time 
>> very well spent.
>>  
>> Richard
>> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
>> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Les Kriegler]

Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
> one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>  
> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
> their time.
>  
> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
> things in which I am interested.
>  
> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
> working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
> because the technology is so much better now.
>  
> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
> wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
> well spent.
>  
> Richard
> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may want to include appropriate emojis if you are joking or want to convey 
other intentions.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: December 29, 2021 9:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

And, I was writing tongue and check.
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
Correct
Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
people may sleep and eat a lot 

Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard felt 
his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



I agree Gordan.



I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot.

He is completely wrong.











-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



Totally uncalled for.



On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony

>

> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

>

>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers 
>> mailto:gdbow...@att.net>> wrote:

>>

>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner

>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

>>

>> Greetings,

>>

>>

>>

>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

>>

>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.

>>

>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

>>

>>

>>

>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.

>>

>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

>>

>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.

>>

>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.

>>

>>

>>

>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

>>

>>

>>

>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

>>

>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

>>

>> The scanning results are quite excellent.

>>

>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the tw

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Richard Turner]

I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
one’s use of time; but here I am again.

 

First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with their 
time.

 

Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
things in which I am interested.

 

Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
because the technology is so much better now.

 

Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
well spent.

 

Richard

“If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

And, I was writing tongue and check.

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Correct
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
>> errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course 
>> some people may sleep and eat a lot 
>> Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard 
>> felt his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>  
>> I agree Gordan.
>>  
>> I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot. 
>> He is completely wrong.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>  
>> Totally uncalled for.
>>  
>> On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
>> > Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
>> > that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. 
>> > I mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around 
>> > the house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much 
>> > time on their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or 
>> > later you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from 
>> > other people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the 
>> > iPhone. Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> > 
>> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>> >> 
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> >> Richard Turner
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>> >> 
>> >> Greetings,
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> >> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I 
>> >> got to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> >> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>> >> 
>> >> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> >> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it 
>> >> spiral bound.
>> >> 
>> >> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, 
>> >> Voice Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> >> choice.
>> >> 
>> >> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book 
>> >> spiral bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing 
>> >> pages at once.
>> >> 
>> >> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> >> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image 
>> >> button, positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of 
>> >> the stand, with a single page facing up.
>> >> 
>> >> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> >> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> >> and repeated.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice 
>> >> Dream Reader, 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Correct

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
> errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
> people may sleep and eat a lot 
> Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard 
> felt his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> I agree Gordan.
>  
> I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot. 
> He is completely wrong.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>  
> Totally uncalled for.
>  
> On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> > Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> > that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> > mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> > house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time 
> > on their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> > you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> > people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> > Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> > 
> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> >> Richard Turner
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
> >> 
> >> Greetings,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
> >> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
> >> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
> >> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
> >> 
> >> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
> >> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
> >> bound.
> >> 
> >> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, 
> >> Voice Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
> >> choice.
> >> 
> >> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book 
> >> spiral bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing 
> >> pages at once.
> >> 
> >> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
> >> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image 
> >> button, positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of 
> >> the stand, with a single page facing up.
> >> 
> >> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
> >> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
> >> and repeated.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice 
> >> Dream Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
> >> 
> >> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
> >> 
> >> The scanning results are quite excellent.
> >> 
> >> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
> >> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles 
> >> and scattered which

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I wonder how I put in 8 to 10 hours of work each day after doing the 
errands around the house and the sleeping and eating, but then of course some 
people may sleep and eat a lot 

Everybody has to decide what they do with their time and I'm sure Richard felt 
his time was well spent scanning and reading this book.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: December 28, 2021 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



I agree Gordan.



I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot.

He is completely wrong.











-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book



Totally uncalled for.



On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony

>

> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

>

>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers 
>> mailto:gdbow...@att.net>> wrote:

>>

>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

>>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner

>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM

>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

>>

>> Greetings,

>>

>>

>>

>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

>>

>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.

>>

>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

>>

>>

>>

>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.

>>

>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

>>

>>

>>

>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

>>

>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.

>>

>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.

>>

>>

>>

>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

>>

>>

>>

>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

>>

>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

>>

>> The scanning results are quite excellent.

>>

>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
>> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.

>>

>>

>>

>> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
>> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
>> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
>> fictional that would be rendered fic-

>>

>> tional.

>>

>> Assumi

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Dennis Long]

 If Anthony sent this to the Phones for the blind list which I own he would be 
moderated immediately.  We have 3 owners/ moderators  myself, Stephen Giggar 
and Allan Lemly.   This is the kind of topic I would like to see on that list.  
Awesome job Richard and Thank you for sharing.  For anyone that wants to 
subscribe to my list you can send a message to 
phonesfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[alia robinson]

tell me about it.

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Totally uncalled for.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[alia robinson]

what kind of a message is this? why do you care what other people do with their 
time? what a rude, and disgusting response. 
> On Dec 28, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony 

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Richard Turner]

I agree Gordan.

I didn't mention how long it took, he assumed a lot.  
He is completely wrong.





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>>
>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>>
>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.
>>
>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.
>>
>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.
>>
>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.
>>
>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.
>>
>>
>>
>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
>>
>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
>>
>> The scanning results are quite excellent.
>>
>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
>> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
>> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
>> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
>> fictional that would be rendered fic-
>>
>> tional.
>>
>> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
>> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
>>
>> That is damn good in my book.
>>
>> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
>> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
>> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
>>
>> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
>> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the 
>> accuracy when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
>> this done about 43 years ago.
>>
>> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
>> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[llumpkin]

I think he was being tongue in cheek but probably needed to say so.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job 
> that you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I 
> mean I have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the 
> house. I can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on 
> their hands glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later 
> you’re going to need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other 
> people it’s just truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. 
> Sit back relax and enjoy life. Anthony
>
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
>>
>> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
>> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got 
>> to the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon 
>> Disasters” by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.
>>
>> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
>> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
>> bound.
>>
>> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
>> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
>> choice.
>>
>> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
>> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.
>>
>> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
>> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
>> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
>> with a single page facing up.
>>
>> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
>> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page 
>> and repeated.
>>
>>
>>
>> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
>> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
>>
>> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
>>
>> The scanning results are quite excellent.
>>
>> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
>> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
>> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
>> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
>> fictional that would be rendered fic-
>>
>> tional.
>>
>> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
>> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
>>
>> That is damn good in my book.
>>
>> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
>> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
>> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
>>
>> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
>> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the 
>> accuracy when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
>> this done about 43 years ago.
>>
>> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
>> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
>> inches thick and a pain to f

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Gordon]

Totally uncalled for.

On 12/28/2021 6:30 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job that 
you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I mean I 
have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the house. I 
can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on their hands 
glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later you’re going to 
need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other people it’s just 
truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. Sit back relax and 
enjoy life. Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!


On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:

Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Greetings,



I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.



I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.



I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.



After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.



Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.



In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic-

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.



For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano.

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.



You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.



Later,



Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin



My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Anthony Vece]

Well, I’ll tell you what Rich that’s really a stellar stellar stellar job that 
you took on. I can’t imagine spending that much time doing all this. I mean I 
have to eat I have to sleep I have to pray and do errands around the house. I 
can’t understand a lot of people who have entirely too much time on their hands 
glad you’re satisfied with your results but, sooner or later you’re going to 
need emotions from your sided wife and emotions from other people it’s just 
truly amazes me how much people have elevated the iPhone. Sit back relax and 
enjoy life. Anthony 

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Dec 28, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Gary Bowers  wrote:
> 
> Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served 
> together for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to 
> the end of my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” 
> by William L. Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  
> 
> It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
> accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
> bound.
> 
> I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
> Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.
> 
> 
> 
> I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
> choice.
> 
> I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.
> 
> 
> 
> I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
> bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once. 
>  
> 
> I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  
> Using my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
> positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
> with a single page facing up.
> 
> I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
> Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
> repeated.
> 
> 
> 
> After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.
> 
> 
> 
> Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
> Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.
> 
> Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.
> 
> The scanning results are quite excellent.
> 
> I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, 
> opened then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.
> 
> 
> 
> In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
> scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
> noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
> fictional that would be rendered fic- 
> 
> tional.
> 
> Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
> pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.
> 
> That is damn good in my book.
> 
> Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
> the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages 
> of content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.
> 
> I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
> update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
> when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.
> 
> 
> 
> For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having 
> this done about 43 years ago.
> 
> I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
> Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
> inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.
> 
> So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back 
> binding, and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.
> 
> It wasbrilliant!
> 
> Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, 
> has been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they 
> would lie flat on the piano. 
> 
> Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
> binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.
> 
> I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.
> 
> They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.
> 
> Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.
> 
> 
> 
> You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature 
> in Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the 
> width I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.
> 
> 
> 
> Later,
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Mo]

Hi, enjoyed reading about the scanner here. what is the voice dream list that 
was mentioned previously? If related to the apps would be interested. Is is an 
email list?

Thank you.

Mo.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 28 December 2021 19:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

 

Greetings,

 

I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

 

I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

 

I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.  

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.

 

After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

 

Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.

 

In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic- 

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.

 

For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano. 

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.

 

You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.

 

Later,

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

 

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Gary Bowers]

Richard - Thanks for the tips. You're a sharp guy!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

Greetings,

 

I have a book that was gifted to me by the author after we had served together 
for several years on the Oregon State Library Board.   When I got to the end of 
my term, he gave me a signed copy of his book, “Oregon Disasters” by William L. 
Sullivan, an Oregon travel writer.  

It had been on my shelf for almost 10 years.  I couldn’t find it in an 
accessible format, so decided on scanning it myself after having it spiral 
bound.

I did some tests with a few approaches; Openbook on a flatbed scanner, Voice 
Dream Scanner, SuperSense, and KNFB Reader on my iPhone.

 

I decided for sake of speed and accuracy, Voice Dream Scanner would be my 
choice.

I have a iPhone 13 Pro with 256 GB of storage.

 

I have an old FOPYDO scanning stand that I used since I had the book spiral 
bound and wouldn’t need to deal with trying to get both facing pages at once.  

I set Voice Dream Scanner to batch mode and turned off the auto capture.  Using 
my Orbit Reader 20 Plus, I put the focus on the Capture Image button, 
positioned the phone on the stand and put the book on the bed of the stand, 
with a single page facing up.

I hit the select button on the Orbit Reader and captured the first page.  
Turned the book over, and did the second page.  Flipped to the third page and 
repeated.

 

After 232 pages, I was kicked out of the app.

 

Fortunately, the pages were still in the app, so I saved them to Voice Dream 
Reader, cleared the Scanner app, and scanned the last 40 or 50 pages.

Saved that last part to Voice Dream Reader.

The scanning results are quite excellent.

I then exported the text from VDR and emailed the two batches to myself, opened 
then in Microsoft Word, and combined them into one file.

 

In the beginning of the book are a lot of maps with words at odd angles and 
scattered which no scanning tool, even Openbook, could make sense of.  I 
noticed some hyphenated words that split between two lines like the word 
fictional that would be rendered fic- 

tional.

Assuming there will be a fair number of hyphenated words and a few other map 
pages, Word’s spell checker gave it an 89% score.

That is damn good in my book.

Once I started listening to the book with Voice Dream Reader, and got beyond 
the Introduction where there was a map or two, I listened to about 34 pages of 
content that had almost no errors.  I heard maybe two over 34 pages.

I will finish the 250 page book over the next couple of weeks and give an 
update as to how accurate it was; but I am pretty confident that the accuracy 
when on text without funny maps will be plus 98%.

 

For those who do not know about spiral binding a book; I learned of having this 
done about 43 years ago.

I used an OPTACON quite a bit in those single days, and had a nice Webster’s 
Collegiant Dictionary that I could look words up in, but it was about 2.5 
inches thick and a pain to force open in the middle.

So, I called around and found a printer who would remove the hard back binding, 
and spiral bind it into 4 volumes.

It wasbrilliant!

Fast forward to the current day and my sighted wife, who plays piano some, has 
been buying books of piano music and having them spiral bound so they would lie 
flat on the piano. 

Any store that does photo copying probably has the ability to do spiral 
binding, like the UPS stores or FedEx stores.  We use a UPS store near us.

I had her take this book to get it spiral bound.  It cost about $4.50.

They leave the front and back cover, so you only lose the spine of the book.

Well worth it to make scanning that much easier.

 

You may wonder why I didn’t take advantage of the column recognition feature in 
Voice Dream Scanner; well, I don’t have a good set up to do that with the width 
I would need, and this proved in the end I think to be faster.

 

Later,

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ 

 

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

[Dennis Long]

I don't automatically update either.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

ON the app store app, triple tap, then flick right to updates.
Double tap.
Then, to make sure, do a three finger swipe down until you hear refreshing 
screen or something like that.
Then, near the bottom of the screen will be a list of available updates, if 
there are any.
Each app that has an update, has a statement about that update.

Or, open the app store app, double tap on my account, and do the refresh and 
find the available updates near the bottom.
Either method should work.

If you have automatically update apps turned on, things will probably be 
different.  I've never turned that setting on because I want to know what each 
update is offering before I update an app.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

Richard 

How do you updating the Voice dream scanner please? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 January 2021 00:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

I always read the details of updates before updating. Winston stated in the 
details of this update that VoiceOver users would no longer be able to scan 
from the image preview. 
He enhanced the visual functionality of the image preview. 
My guess is that we should not have been able to use that from the beginning, 
but it worked. The capture button has always worked, and was designed for our 
use. 
Not to mention you can also enable the auto capture feature. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I just noticed that my Voice Dream Scanner App is not 
> working with image preview.  It does work with capture image though.
> I updated the app earlier this week and thought it worked fine.  I 
> deleted the app and reinstalled it and the same thing.  The camera is 
> on and also tried Seeing Eye that worked fine  Any ideas of what is 
> wrong?  If I recall when I purchased VDScanner a year or so ago, I had 
> to change something but, can't remember or even noticed any setting 
> that needs to be changed.  Any others have this problem?  Andy and 
> Shubert
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
> Notebook Talking Information Center
> 
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

[Robert Doc Wright]

I had to go to purchased, my purchases, search for the app by name, double 
tap the name then DT the update button.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone


ON the app store app, triple tap, then flick right to updates.
Double tap.
Then, to make sure, do a three finger swipe down until you hear refreshing 
screen or something like that.
Then, near the bottom of the screen will be a list of available updates, if 
there are any.

Each app that has an update, has a statement about that update.

Or, open the app store app, double tap on my account, and do the refresh and 
find the available updates near the bottom.

Either method should work.

If you have automatically update apps turned on, things will probably be 
different.  I've never turned that setting on because I want to know what 
each update is offering before I update an app.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anthony

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

Richard

How do you updating the Voice dream scanner please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: 13 January 2021 00:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

I always read the details of updates before updating. Winston stated in the 
details of this update that VoiceOver users would no longer be able to scan 
from the image preview.

He enhanced the visual functionality of the image preview.
My guess is that we should not have been able to use that from the 
beginning, but it worked. The capture button has always worked, and was 
designed for our use.

Not to mention you can also enable the auto capture feature.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
when I was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
wrote:


Hello All, I just noticed that my Voice Dream Scanner App is not
working with image preview.  It does work with capture image though.
I updated the app earlier this week and thought it worked fine.  I
deleted the app and reinstalled it and the same thing.  The camera is
on and also tried Seeing Eye that worked fine  Any ideas of what is
wrong?  If I recall when I purchased VDScanner a year or so ago, I had
to change something but, can't remember or even noticed any setting
that needs to be changed.  Any others have this problem?  Andy and
Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler
Notebook Talking Information Center


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RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

[Richard Turner]

ON the app store app, triple tap, then flick right to updates.
Double tap.
Then, to make sure, do a three finger swipe down until you hear refreshing 
screen or something like that.
Then, near the bottom of the screen will be a list of available updates, if 
there are any.
Each app that has an update, has a statement about that update.

Or, open the app store app, double tap on my account, and do the refresh and 
find the available updates near the bottom.
Either method should work.

If you have automatically update apps turned on, things will probably be 
different.  I've never turned that setting on because I want to know what each 
update is offering before I update an app.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

Richard 

How do you updating the Voice dream scanner please? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 January 2021 00:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

I always read the details of updates before updating. Winston stated in the 
details of this update that VoiceOver users would no longer be able to scan 
from the image preview. 
He enhanced the visual functionality of the image preview. 
My guess is that we should not have been able to use that from the beginning, 
but it worked. The capture button has always worked, and was designed for our 
use. 
Not to mention you can also enable the auto capture feature. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I just noticed that my Voice Dream Scanner App is not 
> working with image preview.  It does work with capture image though.
> I updated the app earlier this week and thought it worked fine.  I 
> deleted the app and reinstalled it and the same thing.  The camera is 
> on and also tried Seeing Eye that worked fine  Any ideas of what is 
> wrong?  If I recall when I purchased VDScanner a year or so ago, I had 
> to change something but, can't remember or even noticed any setting 
> that needs to be changed.  Any others have this problem?  Andy and 
> Shubert
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
> Notebook Talking Information Center
> 
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

[Anthony]

Richard 

How do you updating the Voice dream scanner please? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 13 January 2021 00:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

I always read the details of updates before updating. Winston stated in the 
details of this update that VoiceOver users would no longer be able to scan 
from the image preview. 
He enhanced the visual functionality of the image preview. 
My guess is that we should not have been able to use that from the beginning, 
but it worked. The capture button has always worked, and was designed for our 
use. 
Not to mention you can also enable the auto capture feature. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I just noticed that my Voice Dream Scanner App is not 
> working with image preview.  It does work with capture image though.  
> I updated the app earlier this week and thought it worked fine.  I 
> deleted the app and reinstalled it and the same thing.  The camera is 
> on and also tried Seeing Eye that worked fine  Any ideas of what is 
> wrong?  If I recall when I purchased VDScanner a year or so ago, I had 
> to change something but, can't remember or even noticed any setting 
> that needs to be changed.  Any others have this problem?  Andy and 
> Shubert
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
> Notebook Talking Information Center
> 
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Okay, at least I know nothing is wrong with my camera.  Thank you for pointing 
that out.  Andy and Shubert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

I always read the details of updates before updating. Winston stated in the 
details of this update that VoiceOver users would no longer be able to scan 
from the image preview. 
He enhanced the visual functionality of the image preview. 
My guess is that we should not have been able to use that from the beginning, 
but it worked. The capture button has always worked, and was designed for our 
use. 
Not to mention you can also enable the auto capture feature. 


Richard

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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I just noticed that my Voice Dream Scanner App is not 
> working with image preview.  It does work with capture image though.  
> I updated the app earlier this week and thought it worked fine.  I 
> deleted the app and reinstalled it and the same thing.  The camera is 
> on and also tried Seeing Eye that worked fine  Any ideas of what is 
> wrong?  If I recall when I purchased VDScanner a year or so ago, I had 
> to change something but, can't remember or even noticed any setting 
> that needs to be changed.  Any others have this problem?  Andy and 
> Shubert
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
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> Notebook Talking Information Center
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner with Iphone

[Richard Turner]

I always read the details of updates before updating. Winston stated in the 
details of this update that VoiceOver users would no longer be able to scan 
from the image preview. 
He enhanced the visual functionality of the image preview. 
My guess is that we should not have been able to use that from the beginning, 
but it worked. The capture button has always worked, and was designed for our 
use. 
Not to mention you can also enable the auto capture feature. 


Richard

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"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I just noticed that my Voice Dream Scanner App is not working
> with image preview.  It does work with capture image though.  I updated the
> app earlier this week and thought it worked fine.  I deleted the app and
> reinstalled it and the same thing.  The camera is on and also tried Seeing
> Eye that worked fine  Any ideas of what is wrong?  If I recall when I
> purchased VDScanner a year or so ago, I had to change something but, can't
> remember or even noticed any setting that needs to be changed.  Any others
> have this problem?  Andy and Shubert
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
> Talking Information Center
> 
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner

[Richard Turner]

I like having it auto scan.
That way, once the tone is loudest and steady for about 2 or 3 seconds, it 
takes the picture.
Also, with hints turned off, having it read automatically is also very useful.
Turn off edge detection or it won’t play the tone and you have to get all four 
edges in view, which isn’t really worth it with this app.

As I always say with anything involving numbers and scanning, make sure at some 
point you get verification from someone sighted to be sure it got the numbers 
correct.
Voice Dream Scanner does the best job of any scanning apps I’ve used, and I 
have used most of them, if not all, but I still am a little cautious with 
numbers.




Richard
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Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner

Very helpful! Thanks so much!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner

The basics are pretty easy. The menu button will get you into where you can 
change things and read instructions. However, all you need to do is hold your 
phone flat and above the card. Move the phone an listen for the tone which will 
get louder as more text is detected. If the tone gets quieter, you've lost 
focus on some text. When you have a loud stable tone, double tap on the 
"capture image" button and the text will be scanned. Settings in the app let 
you determine if it's read out loud or not among other things. I find it best 
to use the app with VoiceOver hints disabled so the hint doesn't talk over the 
text which is read. However, the hints are useful to learn what's what. Hope 
that helps you get started. It's a beautifully intuitive system.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 12:02 PM 
mailto:richr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just purchased this app, I haven’t used it as yet, I need to scan a health 
insurance card. Does anyone who has used this app have any pointers as to how 
to do this?
Thanks!
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner

[richring]

Very helpful! Thanks so much!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The basics are pretty easy. The menu button will get you into where you can 
change things and read instructions. However, all you need to do is hold your 
phone flat and above the card. Move the phone an listen for the tone which will 
get louder as more text is detected. If the tone gets quieter, you've lost 
focus on some text. When you have a loud stable tone, double tap on the 
"capture image" button and the text will be scanned. Settings in the app let 
you determine if it's read out loud or not among other things. I find it best 
to use the app with VoiceOver hints disabled so the hint doesn't talk over the 
text which is read. However, the hints are useful to learn what's what. Hope 
that helps you get started. It's a beautifully intuitive system.  

 

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I just purchased this app, I haven’t used it as yet, I need to scan a health 
insurance card. Does anyone who has used this app have any pointers as to how 
to do this? 

Thanks!

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner

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The basics are pretty easy. The menu button will get you into where you can
change things and read instructions. However, all you need to do is hold
your phone flat and above the card. Move the phone an listen for the tone
which will get louder as more text is detected. If the tone gets quieter,
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I find it best to use the app with VoiceOver hints disabled so the hint
doesn't talk over the text which is read. However, the hints are useful to
learn what's what. Hope that helps you get started. It's a beautifully
intuitive system.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 12:02 PM  wrote:

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> health insurance card. Does anyone who has used this app have any pointers
> as to how to do this?
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> Thanks!
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Re: Voice dream scanner not recognising any text

[Richard Turner]

There is no limit I am aware of.
But, depending on the phone's available resources, maybe it was maxed out.
Phones need to be rebooted now and then to clear out anything that could be 
effecting its performance.




Richard
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 13, 2020, at 6:46 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

 Many thanks Richard,  last night I deleted about 12 pages I had scanned, and 
today I tried the scanner again and it worked.  Is there a limit on how many 
pages you have scanned?  I would not have thought so as I think books can be 
scanned.


Regards

Judy

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jun 2020, at 16:22, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

If you have closed out all apps from the app switcher, rebooted the phone, and 
still are experiencing this, I would check two things.
Make sure in the settings, Scanner that it has permission to use the camera.
That probably isn't it.
If not, delete the app, and redownload it.
It works fine on my old SE, and only requires iOS 11.3 or later, so it should 
still work on the 5S.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Judy Pryor 
mailto:judypry...@gmail.com>> wrote:

For the past month Voice Dream Scanner just says empty page every time I take 
a photo .  I know there is text there as I have had to use other scanning 
programmes to identify my post.

I would appreciate any help.  I prefer  using VDS.

Regards

I am using an SE iPhone running 12.4.1

Judy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Voice dream scanner not recognising any text

[Judy Pryor]

Many thanks Richard,  last night I deleted about 12 pages I had scanned, and 
today I tried the scanner again and it worked.  Is there a limit on how many 
pages you have scanned?  I would not have thought so as I think books can be 
scanned.


Regards

Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Jun 2020, at 16:22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> If you have closed out all apps from the app switcher, rebooted the phone, 
> and still are experiencing this, I would check two things.
> Make sure in the settings, Scanner that it has permission to use the camera.
> That probably isn't it.
> If not, delete the app, and redownload it.
> It works fine on my old SE, and only requires iOS 11.3 or later, so it should 
> still work on the 5S.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> 
>> For the past month Voice Dream Scanner just says empty page every time I 
>> take a photo .  I know there is text there as I have had to use other 
>> scanning programmes to identify my post.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any help.  I prefer  using VDS.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> I am using an SE iPhone running 12.4.1
>> 
>> Judy
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voice dream scanner not recognising any text

[Richard Turner]

If you have closed out all apps from the app switcher, rebooted the phone, and 
still are experiencing this, I would check two things.
Make sure in the settings, Scanner that it has permission to use the camera.
That probably isn't it.
If not, delete the app, and redownload it.
It works fine on my old SE, and only requires iOS 11.3 or later, so it should 
still work on the 5S.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 11, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

For the past month Voice Dream Scanner just says empty page every time I take 
a photo .  I know there is text there as I have had to use other scanning 
programmes to identify my post.

I would appreciate any help.  I prefer  using VDS.

Regards

I am using an SE iPhone running 12.4.1

Judy
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner

[Kenny]

Thanks.


On 5/8/2019 10:29 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Kenny,

After you've chosen to keep a Voice Dream Scanner image, you have options to 
either clear or save it. If you execute the Save button, you're given a stack 
of 4 menu options above the home button the last of which is Copy Text. That 
should enable you to get the information to your social media contacts.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 2:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner

Fantastic suggestion. I definitely hope such a feature can be added.


Also is there an option to have last read content copied to clipboard?
Then using a app for syncing iPhone clipboard to PC would make it easier for me 
to post interesting articles to my social media contacts.


On 5/7/2019 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I think it would also be great if Voice Dream Scanner would announce if a page 
is right side up, upside down or sideways as Openbook does. I sometimes would 
find it quite useful to know if I am holding the page correctly as a sighted 
person would read it, for example, I may want to staple several pages together. 
This would be equally as useful a feature in Seeing AI and it could easily be 
an optional feature you could turn on or off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cook, 
Steve
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner

The below article is from the May issue of Access World

Voice Dream Scanner: A New Kind of OCR

There is a new player in the optical character recognition (OCR) space, and it comes from an old friend: Winston Chen, the developer of Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Writer, both of which we ve reviewed in past issues of AccessWorld. In this article we ll start out with a brief conversation with Chen. Then we ll take a look at the developer s latest offering: Voice Dream Scanner. Spoiler alert it will probably be the best $5.99 you ll ever spend on a text recognition app!


AccessWorld readers who use their phones to audibly read e-Pub books, PDFs or 
Bookshare titles are likely already familiar with Voice Dream Reader. It works 
so well with VoiceOver and TalkBack, it s hard to believe it wasn t developed 
specifically for the access market. But according to Chen,  I just wanted to 
build a pocket reader I could use to store all my books and files so I could 
listen to them on the go. No one was more surprised than me when I began 
receiving feedback from dyslexic and blind users describing how helpful Voice 
Dream Reader was for their needs and making some simple suggestions to improve 
the app s accessibility.

Chen s second offering, Voice Dream Writer, was also directed at the mainstream 
market.  Sometimes it s easier to proofread your document by listening to it 
instead of simply rereading the text,  says Chen. At the time, Apple s 
VoiceOver cut and paste features and other block text manipulation capabilities 
were,shall we say, not quite what they are today? The innovative way Chen 
handled these functions made Voice Dream Writer equally useful to users with 
visual impairments.

Reinventing the OCR Engine

  I ve been wanting to add OCR to Voice Dream Reader for a few years now,  says 
Chen.  It would be useful for reading protected PDF s and handouts and memos 
from school and work.

The hurdle Chen kept encountering was finding a useable OCR engine.  There are 
some free, open source engines, but they don t work well enough for my 
purposes,  he says.  The ones that do work well are quite expensive, either as 
a one-time license purchase with each app sold or with ongoing pay-by-the-use 
options. Either of these would have raised the price I have to charge too much 
for my value proposition.

Last year, however, Chen began experimenting with Apple s artificial 
intelligence (AI), called Vision Framework, that s built into the latest iOS 
versions, along with Google s Tesseract, TensorFlow Lite, and ML Kit.

  Instead of using a single standard OCR engine, I combined the best aspects of 
each of these freely available tools, and I was pleasantly surprised by the 
results.

Instead of making OCR a Voice Dream Reader feature, Chen decided to incorporate 
his discovery into a separate app called Voice Dream Scanner.  I considered 
turning it into an in-app purchase, only there are a lot of schools that use 
Reader and they aren t allowed to make in-app purchases,  he says. As to why he 
didn t simply make it a new Reader feature, he smiles,  I do have a family to 
feed.

Chen has been careful to integrate the new Voice Dream Scanner functionality 
into VD Reader, however. For example, if you load a protected PDF file into the 
app and open it, the Documents tab now offers a recognition feature. You can 
now also add to your Voice Dream Reader Library

RE: Voice Dream Scanner

[Alan Lemly]

Kenny,

After you've chosen to keep a Voice Dream Scanner image, you have options to 
either clear or save it. If you execute the Save button, you're given a stack 
of 4 menu options above the home button the last of which is Copy Text. That 
should enable you to get the information to your social media contacts.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenny
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 2:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner

Fantastic suggestion. I definitely hope such a feature can be added.


Also is there an option to have last read content copied to clipboard? 
Then using a app for syncing iPhone clipboard to PC would make it easier for me 
to post interesting articles to my social media contacts.


On 5/7/2019 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> I think it would also be great if Voice Dream Scanner would announce if a 
> page is right side up, upside down or sideways as Openbook does. I sometimes 
> would find it quite useful to know if I am holding the page correctly as a 
> sighted person would read it, for example, I may want to staple several pages 
> together. This would be equally as useful a feature in Seeing AI and it could 
> easily be an optional feature you could turn on or off.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cook, 
> Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice Dream Scanner
>
> The below article is from the May issue of Access World
>
> Voice Dream Scanner: A New Kind of OCR
>
> There is a new player in the optical character recognition (OCR) space, and 
> it comes from an old friend: Winston Chen, the developer of Voice Dream 
> Reader and Voice Dream Writer, both of which we ve reviewed in past issues of 
> AccessWorld. In this article we ll start out with a brief conversation with 
> Chen. Then we ll take a look at the developer s latest offering: Voice Dream 
> Scanner. Spoiler alert it will probably be the best $5.99 you ll ever spend 
> on a text recognition app!
>
> AccessWorld readers who use their phones to audibly read e-Pub books, PDFs or 
> Bookshare titles are likely already familiar with Voice Dream Reader. It 
> works so well with VoiceOver and TalkBack, it s hard to believe it wasn t 
> developed specifically for the access market. But according to Chen,  I just 
> wanted to build a pocket reader I could use to store all my books and files 
> so I could listen to them on the go. No one was more surprised than me when I 
> began receiving feedback from dyslexic and blind users describing how helpful 
> Voice Dream Reader was for their needs and making some simple suggestions to 
> improve the app s accessibility. 
>
> Chen s second offering, Voice Dream Writer, was also directed at the 
> mainstream market.  Sometimes it s easier to proofread your document by 
> listening to it instead of simply rereading the text,  says Chen. At the 
> time, Apple s VoiceOver cut and paste features and other block text 
> manipulation capabilities were,shall we say, not quite what they are today? 
> The innovative way Chen handled these functions made Voice Dream Writer 
> equally useful to users with visual impairments.
>
> Reinventing the OCR Engine
>
>  I ve been wanting to add OCR to Voice Dream Reader for a few years now,  
> says Chen.  It would be useful for reading protected PDF s and handouts and 
> memos from school and work. 
>
> The hurdle Chen kept encountering was finding a useable OCR engine.  There 
> are some free, open source engines, but they don t work well enough for my 
> purposes,  he says.  The ones that do work well are quite expensive, either 
> as a one-time license purchase with each app sold or with ongoing 
> pay-by-the-use options. Either of these would have raised the price I have to 
> charge too much for my value proposition. 
>
> Last year, however, Chen began experimenting with Apple s artificial 
> intelligence (AI), called Vision Framework, that s built into the latest iOS 
> versions, along with Google s Tesseract, TensorFlow Lite, and ML Kit.
>
>  Instead of using a single standard OCR engine, I combined the best aspects 
> of each of these freely available tools, and I was pleasantly surprised by 
> the results. 
>
> Instead of making OCR a Voice Dream Reader feature, Chen decided to 
> incorporate his discovery into a separate app called Voice Dream Scanner.  I 
> considered turning it into an in-app purchase, only there are a lot of 
> schools that use Reader and they aren t allowed to make in-app purchases,  he 
> says. As to why he didn t simply make it a new Reader feature, he smiles,  I 
> do have a family to

Re: Voice Dream Scanner

[Kenny]

Fantastic suggestion. I definitely hope such a feature can be added.


Also is there an option to have last read content copied to clipboard? 
Then using a app for syncing iPhone clipboard to PC would make it easier 
for me to post interesting articles to my social media contacts.



On 5/7/2019 12:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I think it would also be great if Voice Dream Scanner would announce if a page 
is right side up, upside down or sideways as Openbook does. I sometimes would 
find it quite useful to know if I am holding the page correctly as a sighted 
person would read it, for example, I may want to staple several pages together. 
This would be equally as useful a feature in Seeing AI and it could easily be 
an optional feature you could turn on or off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cook, 
Steve
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner

The below article is from the May issue of Access World

Voice Dream Scanner: A New Kind of OCR
   
There is a new player in the optical character recognition (OCR) space, and it comes from an old friend: Winston Chen, the developer of Voice Dream Reader and Voice Dream Writer, both of which we’ve reviewed in past issues of AccessWorld. In this article we’ll start out with a brief conversation with Chen. Then we’ll take a look at the developer’s latest offering: Voice Dream Scanner. Spoiler alert—it will probably be the best $5.99 you’ll ever spend on a text recognition app!


AccessWorld readers who use their phones to audibly read e-Pub books, PDFs or 
Bookshare titles are likely already familiar with Voice Dream Reader. It works 
so well with VoiceOver and TalkBack, it’s hard to believe it wasn’t developed 
specifically for the access market. But according to Chen, “I just wanted to 
build a pocket reader I could use to store all my books and files so I could 
listen to them on the go. No one was more surprised than me when I began 
receiving feedback from dyslexic and blind users describing how helpful Voice 
Dream Reader was for their needs and making some simple suggestions to improve 
the app’s accessibility.”

Chen’s second offering, Voice Dream Writer, was also directed at the mainstream 
market. “Sometimes it’s easier to proofread your document by listening to it 
instead of simply rereading the text,” says Chen. At the time, Apple’s 
VoiceOver cut and paste features and other block text manipulation capabilities 
were,shall we say, not quite what they are today? The innovative way Chen 
handled these functions made Voice Dream Writer equally useful to users with 
visual impairments.

Reinventing the OCR Engine

“I’ve been wanting to add OCR to Voice Dream Reader for a few years now,” says 
Chen. “It would be useful for reading protected PDF’s and handouts and memos 
from school and work.”

The hurdle Chen kept encountering was finding a useable OCR engine. “There are 
some free, open source engines, but they don’t work well enough for my 
purposes,” he says. “The ones that do work well are quite expensive, either as 
a one-time license purchase with each app sold or with ongoing pay-by-the-use 
options. Either of these would have raised the price I have to charge too much 
for my value proposition.”

Last year, however, Chen began experimenting with Apple’s artificial 
intelligence (AI), called Vision Framework, that’s built into the latest iOS 
versions, along with Google’s Tesseract, TensorFlow Lite, and ML Kit.

“Instead of using a single standard OCR engine, I combined the best aspects of 
each of these freely available tools, and I was pleasantly surprised by the 
results.”

Instead of making OCR a Voice Dream Reader feature, Chen decided to incorporate 
his discovery into a separate app called Voice Dream Scanner. “I considered 
turning it into an in-app purchase, only there are a lot of schools that use 
Reader and they aren’t allowed to make in-app purchases,” he says. As to why he 
didn’t simply make it a new Reader feature, he smiles, “I do have a family to 
feed.”

Chen has been careful to integrate the new Voice Dream Scanner functionality 
into VD Reader, however. For example, if you load a protected PDF file into the 
app and open it, the Documents tab now offers a recognition feature. You can 
now also add to your Voice Dream Reader Library not only from Dropbox, Google 
Drive, and other sources, including Bookshare, but using your device’s camera 
as well.

To take advantage of this integration you’ll need both Voice Dream Reader and 
Voice Dream Scanner. Both can be purchased from the iOS App Store. VD Reader is 
also available for Android, but currently VD Scanner is iOS only.

Of course you don’t have to have VD Reader to enjoy the benefits of the new 
Voice Dream Scanner.

A Voice Dream Scanner Snapshot

The app installs quickly and easily, and displays with the icon name “Scanner” 
on your iOS device. Aim the camera toward a page of 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I completely agree with this and well put as always with example practical 
uses cited.

Have you suggested this to Winston?
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner

I think it would also be great if Voice Dream Scanner would announce if a 
page is right side up, upside down or sideways as Openbook does. I sometimes 
would find it quite useful to know if I am holding the page correctly as a 
sighted person would read it, for example, I may want to staple several 
pages together. This would be equally as useful a feature in Seeing AI and 
it could easily be an optional feature you could turn on or off.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cook, 
Steve

Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner

The below article is from the May issue of Access World

Voice Dream Scanner: A New Kind of OCR

There is a new player in the optical character recognition (OCR) space, and 
it comes from an old friend: Winston Chen, the developer of Voice Dream 
Reader and Voice Dream Writer, both of which we’ve reviewed in past issues 
of AccessWorld. In this article we’ll start out with a brief conversation 
with Chen. Then we’ll take a look at the developer’s latest offering: Voice 
Dream Scanner. Spoiler alert—it will probably be the best $5.99 you’ll ever 
spend on a text recognition app!


AccessWorld readers who use their phones to audibly read e-Pub books, PDFs 
or Bookshare titles are likely already familiar with Voice Dream Reader. It 
works so well with VoiceOver and TalkBack, it’s hard to believe it wasn’t 
developed specifically for the access market. But according to Chen, “I just 
wanted to build a pocket reader I could use to store all my books and files 
so I could listen to them on the go. No one was more surprised than me when 
I began receiving feedback from dyslexic and blind users describing how 
helpful Voice Dream Reader was for their needs and making some simple 
suggestions to improve the app’s accessibility.”


Chen’s second offering, Voice Dream Writer, was also directed at the 
mainstream market. “Sometimes it’s easier to proofread your document by 
listening to it instead of simply rereading the text,” says Chen. At the 
time, Apple’s VoiceOver cut and paste features and other block text 
manipulation capabilities were,shall we say, not quite what they are today? 
The innovative way Chen handled these functions made Voice Dream Writer 
equally useful to users with visual impairments.


Reinventing the OCR Engine

“I’ve been wanting to add OCR to Voice Dream Reader for a few years now,” 
says Chen. “It would be useful for reading protected PDF’s and handouts and 
memos from school and work.”


The hurdle Chen kept encountering was finding a useable OCR engine. “There 
are some free, open source engines, but they don’t work well enough for my 
purposes,” he says. “The ones that do work well are quite expensive, either 
as a one-time license purchase with each app sold or with ongoing 
pay-by-the-use options. Either of these would have raised the price I have 
to charge too much for my value proposition.”


Last year, however, Chen began experimenting with Apple’s artificial 
intelligence (AI), called Vision Framework, that’s built into the latest iOS 
versions, along with Google’s Tesseract, TensorFlow Lite, and ML Kit.


“Instead of using a single standard OCR engine, I combined the best aspects 
of each of these freely available tools, and I was pleasantly surprised by 
the results.”


Instead of making OCR a Voice Dream Reader feature, Chen decided to 
incorporate his discovery into a separate app called Voice Dream Scanner. “I 
considered turning it into an in-app purchase, only there are a lot of 
schools that use Reader and they aren’t allowed to make in-app purchases,” 
he says. As to why he didn’t simply make it a new Reader feature, he smiles, 
“I do have a family to feed.”


Chen has been careful to integrate the new Voice Dream Scanner functionality 
into VD Reader, however. For example, if you load a protected PDF file into 
the app and open it, the Documents tab now offers a recognition feature. You 
can now also add to your Voice Dream Reader Library not only from Dropbox, 
Google Drive, and other sources, including Bookshare, but using your device’s 
camera as well.


To take advantage of this integration you’ll need both Voice Dream Reader 
and Voice Dream Scanner. Both can be purchased from the iOS App Store. VD 
Reader is also available for Android, but currently VD Scanner is iOS only.


Of course you don’t have to have VD Reader to enjoy the benefits of the new 
Voice Dream Scanner.


A Voice Dream Scanner Snapshot

The app installs quickly and easily, and displays with the icon name 
“Scanner” on your iOS device. Aim the camera toward a page of text. The app 
displays a real

RE: Voice Dream Scanner

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think it would also be great if Voice Dream Scanner would announce if a page 
is right side up, upside down or sideways as Openbook does. I sometimes would 
find it quite useful to know if I am holding the page correctly as a sighted 
person would read it, for example, I may want to staple several pages together. 
This would be equally as useful a feature in Seeing AI and it could easily be 
an optional feature you could turn on or off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cook, 
Steve
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner

The below article is from the May issue of Access World

Voice Dream Scanner: A New Kind of OCR 
  
There is a new player in the optical character recognition (OCR) space, and it 
comes from an old friend: Winston Chen, the developer of Voice Dream Reader and 
Voice Dream Writer, both of which we’ve reviewed in past issues of AccessWorld. 
In this article we’ll start out with a brief conversation with Chen. Then we’ll 
take a look at the developer’s latest offering: Voice Dream Scanner. Spoiler 
alert—it will probably be the best $5.99 you’ll ever spend on a text 
recognition app!

AccessWorld readers who use their phones to audibly read e-Pub books, PDFs or 
Bookshare titles are likely already familiar with Voice Dream Reader. It works 
so well with VoiceOver and TalkBack, it’s hard to believe it wasn’t developed 
specifically for the access market. But according to Chen, “I just wanted to 
build a pocket reader I could use to store all my books and files so I could 
listen to them on the go. No one was more surprised than me when I began 
receiving feedback from dyslexic and blind users describing how helpful Voice 
Dream Reader was for their needs and making some simple suggestions to improve 
the app’s accessibility.”

Chen’s second offering, Voice Dream Writer, was also directed at the mainstream 
market. “Sometimes it’s easier to proofread your document by listening to it 
instead of simply rereading the text,” says Chen. At the time, Apple’s 
VoiceOver cut and paste features and other block text manipulation capabilities 
were,shall we say, not quite what they are today? The innovative way Chen 
handled these functions made Voice Dream Writer equally useful to users with 
visual impairments.

Reinventing the OCR Engine

“I’ve been wanting to add OCR to Voice Dream Reader for a few years now,” says 
Chen. “It would be useful for reading protected PDF’s and handouts and memos 
from school and work.”

The hurdle Chen kept encountering was finding a useable OCR engine. “There are 
some free, open source engines, but they don’t work well enough for my 
purposes,” he says. “The ones that do work well are quite expensive, either as 
a one-time license purchase with each app sold or with ongoing pay-by-the-use 
options. Either of these would have raised the price I have to charge too much 
for my value proposition.”

Last year, however, Chen began experimenting with Apple’s artificial 
intelligence (AI), called Vision Framework, that’s built into the latest iOS 
versions, along with Google’s Tesseract, TensorFlow Lite, and ML Kit.

“Instead of using a single standard OCR engine, I combined the best aspects of 
each of these freely available tools, and I was pleasantly surprised by the 
results.”

Instead of making OCR a Voice Dream Reader feature, Chen decided to incorporate 
his discovery into a separate app called Voice Dream Scanner. “I considered 
turning it into an in-app purchase, only there are a lot of schools that use 
Reader and they aren’t allowed to make in-app purchases,” he says. As to why he 
didn’t simply make it a new Reader feature, he smiles, “I do have a family to 
feed.”

Chen has been careful to integrate the new Voice Dream Scanner functionality 
into VD Reader, however. For example, if you load a protected PDF file into the 
app and open it, the Documents tab now offers a recognition feature. You can 
now also add to your Voice Dream Reader Library not only from Dropbox, Google 
Drive, and other sources, including Bookshare, but using your device’s camera 
as well.

To take advantage of this integration you’ll need both Voice Dream Reader and 
Voice Dream Scanner. Both can be purchased from the iOS App Store. VD Reader is 
also available for Android, but currently VD Scanner is iOS only.

Of course you don’t have to have VD Reader to enjoy the benefits of the new 
Voice Dream Scanner.

A Voice Dream Scanner Snapshot

The app installs quickly and easily, and displays with the icon name “Scanner” 
on your iOS device. Aim the camera toward a page of text. The app displays a 
real-time video image preview which is also the “Capture Image” button. Double 
tap this button, the camera clicks, and the image is converted to text almost 
immediately. You are placed on the “Play” button, give a quick double tap and 
the text is spoken using either a purchased VD Reader voice or your 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner

[regina alvarado]

I truly have never been as excited about a scanning app as I am Scanner. Even 
with hands that sometimes drive me nuts with their shaking (from medication) I 
am able to raise the phone from a page and it reads completely. Sometimes I 
need to do a second scan, but most of the time what I get is enough to realize 
I need it or it goes in the circular file, now mostly square files. LOL! Best 6 
dollars I have spent on an app and worth much more!! Even Seeing AI is not as 
good on documents, and Seeing AI blows KNFB out of the water. Anyone on the 
fence on this one because of price, spend the 6 dollars! It's a gem. Richard 
and anyone else who knows Chen can pass this along to him. Not sure where to go 
to tell him, and writing a review in app store can be a bear sometimes. Thanks.

Reggie Alvarado 

On May 7, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Cook, Steve  wrote:

The below article is from the May issue of Access World

Voice Dream Scanner: A New Kind of OCR 

There is a new player in the optical character recognition (OCR) space, and it 
comes from an old friend: Winston Chen, the developer of Voice Dream Reader and 
Voice Dream Writer, both of which we’ve reviewed in past issues of AccessWorld. 
In this article we’ll start out with a brief conversation with Chen. Then we’ll 
take a look at the developer’s latest offering: Voice Dream Scanner. Spoiler 
alert—it will probably be the best $5.99 you’ll ever spend on a text 
recognition app!

AccessWorld readers who use their phones to audibly read e-Pub books, PDFs or 
Bookshare titles are likely already familiar with Voice Dream Reader. It works 
so well with VoiceOver and TalkBack, it’s hard to believe it wasn’t developed 
specifically for the access market. But according to Chen, “I just wanted to 
build a pocket reader I could use to store all my books and files so I could 
listen to them on the go. No one was more surprised than me when I began 
receiving feedback from dyslexic and blind users describing how helpful Voice 
Dream Reader was for their needs and making some simple suggestions to improve 
the app’s accessibility.”

Chen’s second offering, Voice Dream Writer, was also directed at the mainstream 
market. “Sometimes it’s easier to proofread your document by listening to it 
instead of simply rereading the text,” says Chen. At the time, Apple’s 
VoiceOver cut and paste features and other block text manipulation capabilities 
were,shall we say, not quite what they are today? The innovative way Chen 
handled these functions made Voice Dream Writer equally useful to users with 
visual impairments.

Reinventing the OCR Engine

“I’ve been wanting to add OCR to Voice Dream Reader for a few years now,” says 
Chen. “It would be useful for reading protected PDF’s and handouts and memos 
from school and work.”

The hurdle Chen kept encountering was finding a useable OCR engine. “There are 
some free, open source engines, but they don’t work well enough for my 
purposes,” he says. “The ones that do work well are quite expensive, either as 
a one-time license purchase with each app sold or with ongoing pay-by-the-use 
options. Either of these would have raised the price I have to charge too much 
for my value proposition.”

Last year, however, Chen began experimenting with Apple’s artificial 
intelligence (AI), called Vision Framework, that’s built into the latest iOS 
versions, along with Google’s Tesseract, TensorFlow Lite, and ML Kit.

“Instead of using a single standard OCR engine, I combined the best aspects of 
each of these freely available tools, and I was pleasantly surprised by the 
results.”

Instead of making OCR a Voice Dream Reader feature, Chen decided to incorporate 
his discovery into a separate app called Voice Dream Scanner. “I considered 
turning it into an in-app purchase, only there are a lot of schools that use 
Reader and they aren’t allowed to make in-app purchases,” he says. As to why he 
didn’t simply make it a new Reader feature, he smiles, “I do have a family to 
feed.”

Chen has been careful to integrate the new Voice Dream Scanner functionality 
into VD Reader, however. For example, if you load a protected PDF file into the 
app and open it, the Documents tab now offers a recognition feature. You can 
now also add to your Voice Dream Reader Library not only from Dropbox, Google 
Drive, and other sources, including Bookshare, but using your device’s camera 
as well.

To take advantage of this integration you’ll need both Voice Dream Reader and 
Voice Dream Scanner. Both can be purchased from the iOS App Store. VD Reader is 
also available for Android, but currently VD Scanner is iOS only.

Of course you don’t have to have VD Reader to enjoy the benefits of the new 
Voice Dream Scanner.

A Voice Dream Scanner Snapshot

The app installs quickly and easily, and displays with the icon name “Scanner” 
on your iOS device. Aim the camera toward a page of text. The app displays a 
real-time video image preview which is also the “Capture Image” 

RE: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That always works perfectly for me, if you have a difficult time centering the 
phone on the page without reference you can lightly fold the page in half both 
ways, where the fold lines cross is the exact middle of the page. Put your 
phone on the page with the camera over the centre, then lift the phone straight 
up about a foot or a bit more until you hear the solid beep and hold still. 
Actually practicing with the Seeing AI app is even easier because it tells you 
if the left or top or right edge is not visible and once all edges are visible 
it tells you to hold still.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

If I understand what you are asking, there is nothing to do, other than get the 
phone centered and high enough to get the entire page in view.
It orients automatically as far as I know.
Maybe Winston will chime in, or you could write him directly through the email 
support in the same settings area in the app.
Hth,
Richard

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi all,

 

Thanks for getting back to me.  I’ll have to checkout the podcast at AppleVis.  
My understanding is that the scanner app has a method of helping you make sure 
the entire document is in the frame.  I’d like to know how to use this feature. 
 Thanks.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

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Richard:

 

Thanks for getting that .  It has some very useful information for a beginning 
user of Voice Dream Scanner.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Richard Turner]

The podcast that Thomas Nonnville did is at:
https://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/fast-and-accurate-scanning-voice-dream-scanner-ios

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On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Richard Turner 
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If I understand what you are asking, there is nothing to do, other than get the 
phone centered and high enough to get the entire page in view.
It orients automatically as far as I know.
Maybe Winston will chime in, or you could write him directly through the email 
support in the same settings area in the app.
Hth,
Richard


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Richard:

Thanks for getting that .  It has some very useful information for a beginning 
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Richard Turner]

If I understand what you are asking, there is nothing to do, other than get the 
phone centered and high enough to get the entire page in view.
It orients automatically as far as I know.
Maybe Winston will chime in, or you could write him directly through the email 
support in the same settings area in the app.
Hth,
Richard


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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Holly]

OOOPs.  Must have copied the link wrong.  Maybe Richard still has the link to 
the video handy.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

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Have you seen the instructional video from Applevis?  Here is the link.

https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi Richard,

 

I found that information but it doesn’t seem to give any instructions for using 
the page alignment feature in the app.  Do you know where I might find 
instructions on how to use the feature?  Thanks.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

 

 

If you double tap on the menu button, flick right to Helpful Tips, and read 
that. 

At this point, that is all there is.

Richard

 

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On Apr 27, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Edward Przybylek  wrote:

Hi all,

 

Is there a manual for the Voice Dream Scanner app?  If so, could someone please 
point me at it.  Thanks.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner Manual

[Richard Turner]

If you double tap on the menu button, flick right to Helpful Tips, and read 
that.
At this point, that is all there is.
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Hi all,

Is there a manual for the Voice Dream Scanner app?  If so, could someone please 
point me at it.  Thanks.

Take care,
Ed Przybylek


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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Ketan Kothari]

Thank you Richard,  though I find it funny that India is excluded
where a fairly sizeable people do speak English.  Of course, I will
definitely write to Winston.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 12/04/2019, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Winston is not on this list, but on the new Voice Dream Products list.
> I'll put the subscription address at the end.
> The scanner app is only available in countries whose language uses Latin
> characters.
> The address for subscribing to the new list that was started by Ann is:
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> Richard
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> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
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>
>
> On Apr 11, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ketan Kothari
> mailto:muktake...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am a great lover of Voicedream Reader and am surprised and
> disappointed that the scanner in not available in India.  I wonder
> why.  Is Winston on the list?
>
> Ketan
>
> On 08/04/2019, Dianne B Phelps
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> and discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and
> restarting
> and finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering
> if
> anyone else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my
> kitchen table and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in
> my
> big chair, page in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and
> positioning properly to get picture. I will play with it some more.
> Overall,
> impressed and pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if
> NFB
> gets things back in action with KNFB Reader.
>
>
>
> Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to
> hear, and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding
> settings which I can try and work with as well.
>
>
>
> I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone's help.
>
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

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Winston is not on this list, but on the new Voice Dream Products list.
I'll put the subscription address at the end.
The scanner app is only available in countries whose language uses Latin 
characters.
The address for subscribing to the new list that was started by Ann is:
subscribe+voicedreamprodu...@groups.io

Winston's email is supp...@voicedream.com
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On Apr 11, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ketan Kothari 
mailto:muktake...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi

I am a great lover of Voicedream Reader and am surprised and
disappointed that the scanner in not available in India.  I wonder
why.  Is Winston on the list?

Ketan

On 08/04/2019, Dianne B Phelps 
mailto:d.bphe...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing
and discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and
restarting
and finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering
if
anyone else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my
kitchen table and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in
my
big chair, page in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and
positioning properly to get picture. I will play with it some more.
Overall,
impressed and pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if
NFB
gets things back in action with KNFB Reader.



Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to
hear, and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding
settings which I can try and work with as well.



I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone's help.



Smiles to all,



Dianne and the Fur Crew

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi

I am a great lover of Voicedream Reader and am surprised and
disappointed that the scanner in not available in India.  I wonder
why.  Is Winston on the list?

Ketan

On 08/04/2019, Dianne B Phelps  wrote:
> I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through
> what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing
> and discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and
> restarting
> and finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering
> if
> anyone else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my
> kitchen table and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in
> my
> big chair, page in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and
> positioning properly to get picture. I will play with it some more.
> Overall,
> impressed and pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if
> NFB
> gets things back in action with KNFB Reader.
>
>
>
> Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to
> hear, and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding
> settings which I can try and work with as well.
>
>
>
> I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone's help.
>
>
>
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Michael Maslo]

Hello lelia,
. I had a little problem with it when I first got the application but after I 
got the stand, everything improved dramatically. I love this app. 
  

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 19:39, Lelia Struve  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, so, I really tried to use the voice dream scanner. I am not blaming 
> the product, I am blaming the operator. Me! I just don’t know how to use it. 
> I listened to the podcast from Thomas and I just can’t get it.
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Larry and all,
>> Please contact Winston with this issue/question.
>> supp...@voicedream.com
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.
>>  
>> I would think that decolumnizing columnar text on a page aught to be a given 
>> feature. OCR has been doing that for decades. I get it that splitting facing 
>> pages probably isn’t available though that would be a wonderful feature. His 
>> recognition is so good that I think many of us are jumping on it and wanting 
>> the program to do lots of things.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.
>>  
>>  
>> From what I understand, it isn't designed with that in mind.
>> So it will take some trial and error to see for sure.
>> I know it is not designed to two two open pages of a book and separate them; 
>> so I suspect two columns may be the same.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>  
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>  
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan 
>> program won’t decolumnize the text?
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.
>>  
>>  
>> It isn't designed for columns at this point.
>> Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.
>> Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.
>> The address to subscribe is:
>> voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io
>> Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>  
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>  
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned 
>> and how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle 
>> material in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns. 
>>  
>> From: khaf...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.
>>  
>> I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so 
>> far. I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some 
>> documents that were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came 
>> on top.
>>  
>&g

RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Larry Lumpkin]

Lelia, all you have to do is open the app and move the phone until you get a 
solid tone, then tap near the top of the screen which should “capture image”. 
Even easier, on the home screen, turn on “auto capture” (I think that is what 
it is called). There is even an option in options tu turn on reading of text 
automatically after the shot is made.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia 
Struve
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

Hi all, so, I really tried to use the voice dream scanner. I am not blaming the 
product, I am blaming the operator. Me! I just don’t know how to use it. I 
listened to the podcast from Thomas and I just can’t get it.

Lelia 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 10, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Larry and all,

Please contact Winston with this issue/question.

supp...@voicedream.com <mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> 

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I would think that decolumnizing columnar text on a page aught to be a given 
feature. OCR has been doing that for decades. I get it that splitting facing 
pages probably isn’t available though that would be a wonderful feature. His 
recognition is so good that I think many of us are jumping on it and wanting 
the program to do lots of things.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

 

>From what I understand, it isn't designed with that in mind. 

So it will take some trial and error to see for sure.

I know it is not designed to two two open pages of a book and separate them; so 
I suspect two columns may be the same.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C7818dc7f8c574f1befaa08d6bdb41882%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636904978536240681=0zCfAZy7klekANHZLE3Y%2BHSuR3w5HzSHj0e9xCZP8RM%3D=0>
 

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan program 
won’t decolumnize the text?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

 

It isn't designed for columns at this point. 

Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.

Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.

The address to subscribe is:

voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io 
<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io> 

Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C7818dc7f8c574f1befaa08d6bdb41882%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636904978536250686=shoMuGvSssa4maR3YCdXPfyZQbsodYzr6oKkX657pq0%3D=0>
 

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scan

Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Lelia Struve]

Hi all, so, I really tried to use the voice dream scanner. I am not blaming the 
product, I am blaming the operator. Me! I just don’t know how to use it. I 
listened to the podcast from Thomas and I just can’t get it.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Larry and all,
> Please contact Winston with this issue/question.
> supp...@voicedream.com
> Richard
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> I would think that decolumnizing columnar text on a page aught to be a given 
> feature. OCR has been doing that for decades. I get it that splitting facing 
> pages probably isn’t available though that would be a wonderful feature. His 
> recognition is so good that I think many of us are jumping on it and wanting 
> the program to do lots of things.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
>  
> From what I understand, it isn't designed with that in mind.
> So it will take some trial and error to see for sure.
> I know it is not designed to two two open pages of a book and separate them; 
> so I suspect two columns may be the same.
> Richard
>  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan 
> program won’t decolumnize the text?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
>  
> It isn't designed for columns at this point.
> Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.
> Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.
> The address to subscribe is:
> voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io
> Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.
> Richard
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned 
> and how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle 
> material in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns. 
>  
> From: khaf...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so 
> far. I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents 
> that were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
> alvarado
> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
> it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
> middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the 
> picture. First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even 
> come close on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was 
> immediate! Impressed.
> Reggie Alvarado
> 
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
&

RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Richard Turner]

Larry and all,
Please contact Winston with this issue/question.
supp...@voicedream.com<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I would think that decolumnizing columnar text on a page aught to be a given 
feature. OCR has been doing that for decades. I get it that splitting facing 
pages probably isn’t available though that would be a wonderful feature. His 
recognition is so good that I think many of us are jumping on it and wanting 
the program to do lots of things.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.


>From what I understand, it isn't designed with that in mind.
So it will take some trial and error to see for sure.
I know it is not designed to two two open pages of a book and separate them; so 
I suspect two columns may be the same.
Richard

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C7818dc7f8c574f1befaa08d6bdb41882%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636904978536240681=0zCfAZy7klekANHZLE3Y%2BHSuR3w5HzSHj0e9xCZP8RM%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan program 
won’t decolumnize the text?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.


It isn't designed for columns at this point.
Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.
Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.
The address to subscribe is:
voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io>
Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C7818dc7f8c574f1befaa08d6bdb41882%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636904978536250686=shoMuGvSssa4maR3YCdXPfyZQbsodYzr6oKkX657pq0%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned and 
how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle material 
in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns.

From: khaf...@gmail.com<mailto:khaf...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
Fir

RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Larry Lumpkin]

I would think that decolumnizing columnar text on a page aught to be a given 
feature. OCR has been doing that for decades. I get it that splitting facing 
pages probably isn’t available though that would be a wonderful feature. His 
recognition is so good that I think many of us are jumping on it and wanting 
the program to do lots of things.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

 

>From what I understand, it isn't designed with that in mind. 

So it will take some trial and error to see for sure.

I know it is not designed to two two open pages of a book and separate them; so 
I suspect two columns may be the same.

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=0>
 

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan program 
won’t decolumnize the text?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

 

It isn't designed for columns at this point. 

Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.

Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.

The address to subscribe is:

voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io 
<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io> 

Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.

Richard

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7Cb5de0c1cd0334449553108d6bd5a1a6d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636904592017185569=X8sxH%2FImdm1gTnI3jp6wTLKShFT%2B64%2BtpzL4XgfUvHs%3D=0>
 

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned and 
how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle material 
in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns.  

 

From: khaf...@gmail.com <mailto:khaf...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed. 

Reggie Alvarado 


On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the 

Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Richard Turner]

>From what I understand, it isn't designed with that in mind.
So it will take some trial and error to see for sure.
I know it is not designed to two two open pages of a book and separate them; so 
I suspect two columns may be the same.
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:13 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan program 
won’t decolumnize the text?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.


It isn't designed for columns at this point.
Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.
Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.
The address to subscribe is:
voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io>
Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.
Richard


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On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned and 
how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle material 
in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns.

From: khaf...@gmail.com<mailto:khaf...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed.
Reggie Alvarado

On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Larry Lumpkin]

Do you mean, Richard, that if a page of text has two columns, the scan program 
won’t decolumnize the text?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

 

It isn't designed for columns at this point. 

Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.

Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.

The address to subscribe is:

voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io 
<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io> 

Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.

Richard

 

 

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in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned and 
how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle material 
in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns.  

 

From: khaf...@gmail.com <mailto:khaf...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed. 

Reggie Alvarado 


On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dianne B Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

 

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with

Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Richard Turner]

It isn't designed for columns at this point.
Something you could write the developer about and request that feature.
Also, there is now a list dedicated to just Voice Dream Products.
The address to subscribe is:
voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io<mailto:voicedreamproducts+subscr...@groups.io>
Winston Chen, the developer is a member of that list.
Richard


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“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Apr 9, 2019, at 6:58 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned and 
how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle material 
in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns.

From: khaf...@gmail.com<mailto:khaf...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed.
Reggie Alvarado

On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dianne 
B Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

Smiles to all,

Dianne and the Fur Crew
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[kitty hevener]

Just took the plunge and got it.  I couldn’t believe how quickly it scanned and 
how accurate the scan was.  To echo Reggie, wow!!!  How does it handle material 
in columns?  The document  I scanned had no columns.  

From: khaf...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2019 8:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed. 

Reggie Alvarado 


On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dianne B 
Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

 

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

 

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

 

Smiles to all,

 

Dianne and the Fur Crew

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[khaffar]

I agree, this is one of the best if not the best scanning app I’ve used so far. 
I ran a number of tests on a few complex documents and on some documents that 
were not very clear. In all cases with no exception VDS came on top.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed. 

Reggie Alvarado 


On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dianne B Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

 

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

 

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

 

Smiles to all,

 

Dianne and the Fur Crew

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

['Dan' via VIPhone]

hello list

Without a doubt, this is one of the best apps I have ever purchased. After 
downloading it using it once it was fantastic.

I really really love this app I've been doing more scanning in the last several 
days and I have in a long while.




Dan


> On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:11 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> Frankly, I’m surprised that the price is so low.  I was expecting the app to 
> cost more – not that I’m complaining.  It made the decision  to get it a no 
> brainer. 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 10:44 AM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
> it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
> middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the 
> picture. First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even 
> come close on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was 
> immediate! Impressed. 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
> competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
> Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
> grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I 
> assume does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various 
> apps, but the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase 
> price of $299 it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a 
> lot of grants to develop it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
> consistently good results.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dianne 
> B Phelps
> Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
> what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
> discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
> finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if 
> anyone else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my 
> kitchen table and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my 
> big chair, page in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and 
> positioning properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, 
> impressed and pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB 
> gets things back in action with KNFB Reader.
>  
> Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to 
> hear, and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding 
> settings which I can try and work with as well.
>  
> I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.
>  
> Smiles to all,
>  
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[R Van Lant]

Frankly, I’m surprised that the price is so low.  I was expecting the app to 
cost more – not that I’m complaining.  It made the decision  to get it a no 
brainer.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 10:44 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed.
Reggie Alvarado

On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dianne 
B Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

Smiles to all,

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Richard Turner]

Great to hear Regina,
Winston has out done himself again.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of regina 
alvarado
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:44 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed.
Reggie Alvarado

On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dianne 
B Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner.

[regina alvarado]

I just tried VDS. Wow, is all I can say! Compared to other scanners out there 
it outshines them all. I just took a piece of paper, put phone down in the 
middle, lifted it up to where the tone was fairly steady and took the picture. 
First try, great OCR! Never before on any of these apps did I even come close 
on Ocr the first time! My hands shake too much. However, VDS was immediate! 
Impressed. 
Reggie Alvarado 

On Apr 8, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.
 
I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dianne B 
Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.
 
I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.
 
Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.
 
I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.
 
Smiles to all,
 
Dianne and the Fur Crew
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And who really cares if KNFB Reader ups their game or not. It’s a free and 
competitive market and one wonders why KNFB Reader costs $100 and Voice Dream 
Scanner $5.99. KNFB Reader was developed by the NFB and I assume they do get 
grants and such whereas Voice Dream Scanner is developed by a guy who I assume 
does not. Maybe Winston has other income than that from his various apps, but 
the same applies to the Seeing Eye GPS, at an outright purchase price of $299 
it is pretty expensive especially since Sendero also received a lot of grants 
to develop it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 7:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dianne B 
Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

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RE: Voice Dream Scanner.

[Larry Lumpkin]

I’m doing scans at our diningroom table with no lights on and am getting 
consistently good results.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dianne B 
Phelps
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner.

 

I did read through some mail this morning but felt that as I worked through 
what I had, there may have been a degradation in scan quality after doing and 
discarding several documents. I tried closing the program and restarting and 
finally got something which identified what I had, but just wondering if anyone 
else has noted this. It might have been that I was set up at my kitchen table 
and I am personally not as comfortable out there as I am in my big chair, page 
in my lap, phone to the center of the document, lifting and positioning 
properly to get picture. I will play with it some more. Overall, impressed and 
pleased and think it will ultimately be useful until or if NFB gets things back 
in action with KNFB Reader.

 

Russ, Thank you as well for that link. That demonstration was clearer to hear, 
and I learned a lot of things with the descriptives  there regarding settings 
which I can try and work with as well.

 

I am pleased with the purchase. Thanks again for everyone’s help.

 

Smiles to all,

 

Dianne and the Fur Crew

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Mike B.]

It worked here using IE11.  The link probably wrapped to a 2nd line being 
it's a long URL.

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what browser were you using
That is the link Russ Keen had sent out and it worked for me with Safari on 
my iPhone and Firefox on my computer.
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On Apr 7, 2019, at 11:43 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


  When I hit on the link 
https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3

   this is what I got.

  This web page could not be loaded.
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  We recommend that you close this page.

  Return to Outlook


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RE: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The original link provided was correct, but somehow it must have gotten 
corrupted. Keep in mind that if you know the number of an Applevis Podcast, in 
this case 1225, all you have to do to find it quickly is to Google “Applevis 
Podcast 1225”. When I did this the first Google search result took me straight 
to the correct page on the Applevis website. This doesn’t start the Podcast 
playing right away, but using heading quick navigation takes you easily to the 
summary of the Podcast and you then find the link to play the Podcast.
Of course you can also go to the Applevis website since there search feature 
works extremely well, type “Voice Dream Reader” in the search field and then 
you can apply the filter to show only Podcasts where it tells you right away 
there is only 1 result.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 12:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

i was able to play the podcast using Chrome from the link provided in the 
message, but I wanted to download it to listen later, so I did so from the 
Applevis site.

Andy

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I brought up the podcast right away with IE and windows media player.
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Andy Baracco]

i was able to play the podcast using Chrome from the link provided in the 
message, but I wanted to download it to listen later, so I did so from the 
Applevis site.

Andy

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  I brought up the podcast right away with IE and windows media player.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

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I brought up the podcast right away with IE and windows media player.

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Richard Turner]

I just had the same issue, so I did what Andy did. Then, copied this link from 
Safari:
https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3



Check out my web site at: 
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On Apr 7, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:

The same thing happened to me, so i went to 
www.applevis.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com=02%7C01%7C%7C1e29a10f70fa457debff08d6bb8e9331%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902618356681030=Ei7iGPs6tUN0ohaRovePyLIBxVvEgsxnnCPz%2FW2k%2BcQ%3D=0>
 and downloaded the podcast from there.

Andy

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Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

When I hit on the link 
https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpodcasts%2Fapplevispodcast1225.mp3=02%7C01%7C%7C1e29a10f70fa457debff08d6bb8e9331%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902618356691035=iwUxsOHtJkSZThs%2BUMvTZ25qqyufw9REkEl5dNGgxcY%3D=0>
 this is what I got.
This web page could not be loaded.

Due to an internal error, this web page could not be loaded.

We recommend that you close this page.

Return to 
Outlook<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.live.com%2Fowa=02%7C01%7C%7C1e29a10f70fa457debff08d6bb8e9331%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902618356701047=khBStMD9YCFMx9o3PPukHs%2FvtIA2MbJwtCIMMValUKs%3D=0>

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Andy Baracco]

The same thing happened to me, so i went to www.applevis.com and downloaded the 
podcast from there.

Andy

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  When I hit on the link 
https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Kathy Brandt]

I get the same error, using Safari on my iPod.

> On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:56 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> what browser were you using
> That is the link Russ Keen had sent out and it worked for me with Safari on 
> my iPhone and Firefox on my computer.
> Richard
> 
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> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
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> 
>> When I hit on the link 
>> https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3
>>  this is what I got.
>> This web page could not be loaded.
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Richard Turner]

what browser were you using
That is the link Russ Keen had sent out and it worked for me with Safari on my 
iPhone and Firefox on my computer.
Richard


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When I hit on the link 
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RE: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

['deidre muccio' via VIPhone]

When I hit on the link 
https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3 

 

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Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[kitty hevener]

Richard, thanks.  Will check it out.  Btw, I have been to ur site and really 
like it.  I think you have done an outstanding job of pulling resource 
information and made it all easy to find.  Thank you for great service to us.  

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

Kitty,

It is easier to use Voice Dream Scanner.

Thomas Donville has done a podcast that is a little more thorough than my 
quickish demo.

 

https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3

 

Richard

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

 

I appologize, just looked at subject line and realize I communicated the wrong 
thing for people who skim like me.  My question is below this.  Thoughts on 
scanning with vds compared to seeing ai?

 

From: kitty hevener 

Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 11:00 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus KNFB question?

 

how does the free hand scan and read work compared to that in seeing ai?  With 
seein ai, it takes me forever to get all four corners of a page focused well 
enough for the ap to take a pic and read it.  

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 10:58 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus KNFB question?

 

 

Diane, 

Sorry about the volume and speed on the demo.

But, as others have said, you can use the app free hand just fine. I only used 
the stand for the demo so I could do a true comparison and not have phone 
position be an issue.

Also, you can set it to read automatically.

When it is done reading, you can re-read it by hitting the play button again.

But, the Voice Dream Scanner does not do document management, so if you don't 
clear the scanner, the next scan will be added to the previous one.

 

 

 

It sounds like you do not plan on saving documents, just reading them and 
moving on.

This will work great for you.

Richard

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

  It can be used as a stand alone product.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: Dianne B Phelps 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:19 PM

Subject: Voice Dream Scanner versus KNFB question?

 

First of all, I was not impressed with the NFB Technology explanation as to 
why KNFB Reader has fallen so far behind in terms of its ability. I suspect Dr. 
Kurzweil may be retiring from the scene somewhat as he well deserves and NFB is 
fiddling around with things instead of tending to business. Won’t further 
speculate on that.

 

I do have a couple of questions about Voice Dream Scanner. First of all 
must you absolutely have to have the stand to use it or can you free-hand hold 
the phone as I have managed for years with the KNFB products? Secondly, will 
the scanner, Voice Dream Scanner, read the document you have taken a picture of 
as I do with my mail and then begin reading or do I absolutely have to get the 
document into their reader app in order to read? Frankly, all of what sounds 
like a good bit of document manipulation absolutely overwhelms me. I need to be 
able to take the picture and get the stuff read and am not sure I have the 
patience to have to go into something else, dig around for the document and 
maybe get it read. This stuff is absolutely boggling my mind.

 

When I looked at your video the other day, Richard, I really could not hear 
your demonstration well nor could I hear to understand the speech as it read 
the document after which extra steps you had to take to get it to read.

 

Sorry, it’s old lady ears and not quite understanding all the steps. KNFB 
and Seeing AI are simple. They just don’t work consistently.

 

I have been a Kurzweil reader since the first home version personal reader 
in the early 1990’s and have followed his technology all the way through. I 
have had good luck with it until the last year or two since they are no longer 
doing updates and keeping the product up to date. Also had a device called the 
Read EZ Move which GW Micro sold for a while which was really terrific too. It 
was a device from England, but mine just went out a few months ago and it is 
not manufactured  nor can it be repaired any longer. So, I am fe

RE: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

[Richard Turner]

Kitty,
It is easier to use Voice Dream Scanner.
Thomas Donville has done a podcast that is a little more thorough than my 
quickish demo.

https://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/applevispodcast1225.mp3<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.applevis.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpodcasts%2Fapplevispodcast1225.mp3=02%7C01%7C%7Cc7631ed9ea2c45b157ae08d6bb5e3a5e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902410705695904=GeFJrzMjettFa8yPoprUyFqg0fmJDZIAyV6LkhNxUMI%3D=0>

Richard

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus seeing ai was KNFB question?

I appologize, just looked at subject line and realize I communicated the wrong 
thing for people who skim like me.  My question is below this.  Thoughts on 
scanning with vds compared to seeing ai?

From: kitty hevener<mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus KNFB question?

how does the free hand scan and read work compared to that in seeing ai?  With 
seein ai, it takes me forever to get all four corners of a page focused well 
enough for the ap to take a pic and read it.

From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 10:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Scanner versus KNFB question?


Diane,
Sorry about the volume and speed on the demo.
But, as others have said, you can use the app free hand just fine. I only used 
the stand for the demo so I could do a true comparison and not have phone 
position be an issue.
Also, you can set it to read automatically.
When it is done reading, you can re-read it by hitting the play button again.
But, the Voice Dream Scanner does not do document management, so if you don't 
clear the scanner, the next scan will be added to the previous one.



It sounds like you do not plan on saving documents, just reading them and 
moving on.
This will work great for you.
Richard


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:
It can be used as a stand alone product.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Dianne B Phelps<mailto:d.bphe...@comcast.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:19 PM
Subject: Voice Dream Scanner versus KNFB question?

First of all, I was not impressed with the NFB Technology explanation as to why 
KNFB Reader has fallen so far behind in terms of its ability. I suspect Dr. 
Kurzweil may be retiring from the scene somewhat as he well deserves and NFB is 
fiddling around with things instead of tending to business. Won’t further 
speculate on that.

I do have a couple of questions about Voice Dream Scanner. First of all must 
you absolutely have to have the stand to use it or can you free-hand hold the 
phone as I have managed for years with the KNFB products? Secondly, will the 
scanner, Voice Dream Scanner, read the document you have taken a picture of as 
I do with my mail and then begin reading or do I absolutely have to get the 
document into their reader app in order to read? Frankly, all of what sounds 
like a good bit of document manipulation absolutely overwhelms me. I need to be 
able to take the picture and get the stuff read and am not sure I have the 
patience to have to go into something else, dig around for the document and 
maybe get it read. This stuff is absolutely boggling my mind.

When I looked at your video the other day, Richard, I really could not hear 
your demonstration well nor could I hear to understand the speech as it read 
the document after which extra steps you had to take to get it to read.

Sorry, it’s old lady ears and not quite understanding all the steps. KNFB and 
Seeing AI are simple. They just don’t work consistently.

I have been a Kurzweil reader since the first home version personal reader in 
the early 1990’s and have followed his technology all the way through. I have 
had good luck with it until the last year or two since they are no longer doing 
updates and keeping the product up to date. Also had a device called the Read 
EZ Move which GW Micro sold for a while which was really terrific too. It was a 
device from England, but mine just went out a few months ago and it is not 
m