Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Ari, that's exactly how I do it as well. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:43 PM Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures I should add to hear that both touchscreens textures and keyboard commands which accomplished gestures can be combined seamlessly. So, for instance, sometimes I use my keyboard to reply to email, in which case I would find the correct button on the screen and activate it by double-topping on it, and then use the keyboard to write my message. Then I would touch the send button and double-tap it to send the message. Thanks, Ari On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Sieghar, I see we are alike in this respect. I've got the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard and use it with my iPhone 5s if dictation isn't going to cut it. Now on my iPad Air, that's another story because I use a QWERTY keyboard case however, it's used in the same way as is with the iPhone. I bought the iPad Air so that my iPhone could be use for um,calling people and texting. That one though is on my wife! LOL! She says if you want me to pick up bread and milk on my way home, don't call me to tell me that. It takes time away from my patients. So I learned to text. It was better then getting yelled at! LOL! Regards, Alan I sometimes watch birds and wonder If I could fly who would I crap on? Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:31 AM Subject: RE: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Hi Michelle, OK, I now understand what you mean by Voiceover commands with a Bluetooth keyboard. Well, I have been an iOS user for almost 5 years and while I do have a Bluetooth keyboard, I don't use it a lot and when I do it's mostly when I really want to write a long email on my iPhone. Otherwise I exclusively use touch screen gestures which really is what the iPhone is designed for. Apple has done a fantastic job of adding Bluetooth keyboard and braille display support, but I prefer to use the touch screen especially for just navigating around and reading. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
RE: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Hi Michelle, I am not quite sure what you mean by “Voiceover gestures” and “Voiceover commands”. To me these are synonemous, maybe you can explain? Thanks, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Hi Michelle, OK, I now understand what you mean by Voiceover commands with a Bluetooth keyboard. Well, I have been an iOS user for almost 5 years and while I do have a Bluetooth keyboard, I don't use it a lot and when I do it's mostly when I really want to write a long email on my iPhone. Otherwise I exclusively use touch screen gestures which really is what the iPhone is designed for. Apple has done a fantastic job of adding Bluetooth keyboard and braille display support, but I prefer to use the touch screen especially for just navigating around and reading. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Oh yes, you can navigate solely with the touch screen. I use the keyboard mostly for typing long passages, and I like to explore the keyboard implementation, but iOS has the most accessible touch-screen interface I've ever encountered. I'm fairly sure that physical Bluetooth keyboard implementation was added later. HtH, Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Aug 7, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Michelle, OK, I now understand what you mean by Voiceover commands with a Bluetooth keyboard. Well, I have been an iOS user for almost 5 years and while I do have a Bluetooth keyboard, I don't use it a lot and when I do it's mostly when I really want to write a long email on my iPhone. Otherwise I exclusively use touch screen gestures which really is what the iPhone is designed for. Apple has done a fantastic job of adding Bluetooth keyboard and braille display support, but I prefer to use the touch screen especially for just navigating around and reading. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Ok, you can certainly do it all on screen with the gestures; a keyboardis a bonus, and best kept for typing I think. For sure there's less learning when doing it on screen. Not least, VO tell you the options you can try,... unless it got switched off. I never have, I like the prompting. - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 3:56 PM Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
It sounds like your confused over using Siri or gestures. Gestures do not require the use of Siri. Siri can perform many tasks just by asking her. For example, you can ask Siri to words. She can do it faster then you could. You could ask her how far is it from New York to Chicago. Siri is great at that kind of thing. Gestures would be used for example you didn't hear what Siri said when you asked her how far is it from New York City to Chicago by flicking 2 fingers up from about the center of the screen toward the top. If you have characters set in the rotor for example, you could put your finger on the word Chicago and then flick 1 finger down on the word Chicago and hear C H I C A G O every time you flicked that finger down. HTH! Regards, Alan I sometimes watch birds and wonder “If I could fly who would I crap on?” Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:16 AM Subject: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
I think your piling way to much on yourself needlessly. Forget Jaws. This has nothing what so ever to do with Jaws, Window Eyes NVDA or what ever. Just relax and try to think of it as learning a new way. Your index finger just became your mouse and it's better then anything Microsoft ever thought up. grin What ever is under your index finger is where the mouse pointer is. Instead of learning screen reader commands like with Jaws or Window Eyes, you can see everything on the screen with your index finger. For example, on the screen may be some things on the left side of the screen and some other things on the right side of the screen. There may be columns as well. To view a column, just slide your index finger down or up the column to read what's there where as a screen reader in Windows just reads left to right and top to bottom. Then you had to press other keys on the keyboard to learn to make sense of it. Your index finger and voice over are your eyes. You can view the screen as easily as a sighted person. Don't make it any harder on yourself then it needs to be. Most everybody learns their way around their iPhone and asking questions is what it's all about. We all are here because somebody along the way answered our questions too. So, fire away with those questions and soon it will be you helping the next new person who gets their first iPhone. Regards, Alan I sometimes watch birds and wonder If I could fly who would I crap on? Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:56 AM Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
Sieghar, I see we are alike in this respect. I've got the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard and use it with my iPhone 5s if dictation isn't going to cut it. Now on my iPad Air, that's another story because I use a QWERTY keyboard case however, it's used in the same way as is with the iPhone. I bought the iPad Air so that my iPhone could be use for um,calling people and texting. That one though is on my wife! LOL! She says if you want me to pick up bread and milk on my way home, don't call me to tell me that. It takes time away from my patients. So I learned to text. It was better then getting yelled at! LOL! Regards, Alan I sometimes watch birds and wonder If I could fly who would I crap on? Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:31 AM Subject: RE: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Hi Michelle, OK, I now understand what you mean by Voiceover commands with a Bluetooth keyboard. Well, I have been an iOS user for almost 5 years and while I do have a Bluetooth keyboard, I don't use it a lot and when I do it's mostly when I really want to write a long email on my iPhone. Otherwise I exclusively use touch screen gestures which really is what the iPhone is designed for. Apple has done a fantastic job of adding Bluetooth keyboard and braille display support, but I prefer to use the touch screen especially for just navigating around and reading. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures
I should add to hear that both touchscreens textures and keyboard commands which accomplished gestures can be combined seamlessly. So, for instance, sometimes I use my keyboard to reply to email, in which case I would find the correct button on the screen and activate it by double-topping on it, and then use the keyboard to write my message. Then I would touch the send button and double-tap it to send the message. Thanks, Ari On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: Sieghar, I see we are alike in this respect. I've got the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard and use it with my iPhone 5s if dictation isn't going to cut it. Now on my iPad Air, that's another story because I use a QWERTY keyboard case however, it's used in the same way as is with the iPhone. I bought the iPad Air so that my iPhone could be use for um,calling people and texting. That one though is on my wife! LOL! She says if you want me to pick up bread and milk on my way home, don't call me to tell me that. It takes time away from my patients. So I learned to text. It was better then getting yelled at! LOL! Regards, Alan I sometimes watch birds and wonder If I could fly who would I crap on? Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 8:31 AM Subject: RE: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Hi Michelle, OK, I now understand what you mean by Voiceover commands with a Bluetooth keyboard. Well, I have been an iOS user for almost 5 years and while I do have a Bluetooth keyboard, I don't use it a lot and when I do it's mostly when I really want to write a long email on my iPhone. Otherwise I exclusively use touch screen gestures which really is what the iPhone is designed for. Apple has done a fantastic job of adding Bluetooth keyboard and braille display support, but I prefer to use the touch screen especially for just navigating around and reading. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Bernstein Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 7:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: doing basic functions with only voiceover gestures Yes, voiceover gestures are where you tap the screen, flick up or down, etc. and voiceover commands are where you hold down the vo keys and then other keys on the keyboard. If you are not a JAWS user, it can be difficult to get familiar with using the keyboard for commands and learning basic gestures such as taps and flicks is a much easier way to navigate the screen. I imagine that many JAWS users can easily transform to learning Voiceover commands as they are used to navigating the keyboard with commands, but as a non JAWS user, it is a lot to learn. Michelle Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to perform basic functions such as reading email and downloading books from BARD and Bookshare by using only voiceover gestures and no voiceover commands or do you need to memorize some voiceover commands to perform these basic activities? Michelle -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
