Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-06 Thread christopher hallsworth
Well, thanks for correcting me on that, we'll just wait and see when, but not 
if, the new Apple TV will arrive.
> On 5 Nov 2016, at 17:46, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> "Can't be" is an impossible statement. I can tell you with 100% certainty 
> that Apple is indeed working on a new Apple TV and they probably were working 
> on it before the 4th Generation Apple TV was even released just as they have 
> teams which are probably already working on the 2018 iPhone. In large 
> corporations like that where so much is at stake it is not like they say "OK, 
> now the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are released, let's all take a few weeks off and 
> then we'll start brain storming what we should do next year".
> However, whether a new Apple TV will be released next year or in 2018 is 
> anybody's guess and just because the rumourmill in cyberspace hasn't started 
> cranking out guesses as to what it will be doesn't mean there won't be one. 
> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the current model is 
> capable of 4K streaming and just as certain as I know they are working on a 
> new version I can tell you that said new version will support 4K, a lot of 
> people were disappointed that the 4th Gen didn't since the iPhones which were 
> released at the same time (the 6S and 6S Plus) can record video in 4K. I 
> think this was very much a marketing decision by Apple, the current version 
> could have easily been capable of streaming 4K content, but Apple probably 
> thought after not having released a new Apple TV for so long and with the new 
> app store, the new TVOS and SIRI they could get away with it and benefit from 
> a few million people who have bought the 4th Generation Apple TV also buying 
> the 5th Generation when it comes out with 4K support.
> I know you are quite an Apple fan boy and I am somewhat guilty of that myself 
> at least when it comes to iPhones, the Apple TV and, recently, my new Apple 
> Watch series 2, but I still look at the larger picture and that picture tells 
> me that Apple is no different when it comes to making profits, they are just 
> as greedy as everybody else and have no scruples to squeeze the consumer for 
> as many Dollars, Pounds, Euros or whatever other currency as possible while 
> at the same time trying to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. In fact I 
> would go as far as to say that some other companies and current or former 
> CEO's such as Bill Gates are a lot more philanthropic as Steve Jobbs ever was.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:16 PM
> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
> 
> Can't be. I've not seen anything to support Apple working on a new Apple TV. 
> I do use blogs like IDB, but totally rely on Apple's words in order to 
> believe it. Until then, I believe it when i see it.
>> On 4 Nov 2016, at 09:43, billy inglis <william.ingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the 
>> market next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy
>> 
>> On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:
>>> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
>>> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
>>> investigate what is available in South Africa.
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Kliphton Miller
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
>>> 
>>> Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
>>> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or 
>>> direct.  Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to 
>>> share there info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on 
>>> it.  My favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie 
>>> collection to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac 
>>> on for Plex or some other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t 
>>> have to convert my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse 
>>> will stream them.  The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t 
>>> need sited help to control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the 
>>> screen so we can control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are 
>>> using, including the network TV apps at that have on demand content.

RE: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Christopher,

"Can't be" is an impossible statement. I can tell you with 100% certainty that 
Apple is indeed working on a new Apple TV and they probably were working on it 
before the 4th Generation Apple TV was even released just as they have teams 
which are probably already working on the 2018 iPhone. In large corporations 
like that where so much is at stake it is not like they say "OK, now the iPhone 
7 and 7 Plus are released, let's all take a few weeks off and then we'll start 
brain storming what we should do next year".
However, whether a new Apple TV will be released next year or in 2018 is 
anybody's guess and just because the rumourmill in cyberspace hasn't started 
cranking out guesses as to what it will be doesn't mean there won't be one. 
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the current model is 
capable of 4K streaming and just as certain as I know they are working on a new 
version I can tell you that said new version will support 4K, a lot of people 
were disappointed that the 4th Gen didn't since the iPhones which were released 
at the same time (the 6S and 6S Plus) can record video in 4K. I think this was 
very much a marketing decision by Apple, the current version could have easily 
been capable of streaming 4K content, but Apple probably thought after not 
having released a new Apple TV for so long and with the new app store, the new 
TVOS and SIRI they could get away with it and benefit from a few million people 
who have bought the 4th Generation Apple TV also buying the 5th Generation when 
it comes out with 4K support.
I know you are quite an Apple fan boy and I am somewhat guilty of that myself 
at least when it comes to iPhones, the Apple TV and, recently, my new Apple 
Watch series 2, but I still look at the larger picture and that picture tells 
me that Apple is no different when it comes to making profits, they are just as 
greedy as everybody else and have no scruples to squeeze the consumer for as 
many Dollars, Pounds, Euros or whatever other currency as possible while at the 
same time trying to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. In fact I would go 
as far as to say that some other companies and current or former CEO's such as 
Bill Gates are a lot more philanthropic as Steve Jobbs ever was.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:16 PM
To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

Can't be. I've not seen anything to support Apple working on a new Apple TV. I 
do use blogs like IDB, but totally rely on Apple's words in order to believe 
it. Until then, I believe it when i see it.
> On 4 Nov 2016, at 09:43, billy inglis <william.ingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the 
> market next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy
> 
> On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:
>> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
>> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
>> investigate what is available in South Africa.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kliphton Miller
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
>> 
>> Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
>> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or 
>> direct.  Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to 
>> share there info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on 
>> it.  My favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie 
>> collection to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on 
>> for Plex or some other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t 
>> have to convert my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse 
>> will stream them.  The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need 
>> sited help to control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen 
>> so we can control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, 
>> including the network TV apps at that have on demand content.
>> 
>>  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hello Sieghard and list
>>  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
>> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music 
>> and movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. 
>> can one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
>>  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
>

Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread christopher hallsworth
Can't be. I've not seen anything to support Apple working on a new Apple TV. I 
do use blogs like IDB, but totally rely on Apple's words in order to believe 
it. Until then, I believe it when i see it.
> On 4 Nov 2016, at 09:43, billy inglis <william.ingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the market 
> next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy
> 
> On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:
>> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
>> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
>> investigate what is available in South Africa.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kliphton Miller
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
>> 
>> Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
>> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or 
>> direct.  Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to 
>> share there info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on 
>> it.  My favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie 
>> collection to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on 
>> for Plex or some other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t 
>> have to convert my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse 
>> will stream them.  The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need 
>> sited help to control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen 
>> so we can control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, 
>> including the network TV apps at that have on demand content.
>> 
>>  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hello Sieghard and list
>>  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
>> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music 
>> and movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. 
>> can one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
>>  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
>> wants to access the tv.
>>  Regards
>>  Fanus
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>  Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>> 
>>  Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
>> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for 
>> easier typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV 
>> completely with a bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if 
>> there is a way to invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.
>> 
>> 
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>>  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>> 
>>  Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I 
>> really appreciate it.
>> 
>> 
>>  I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
>>  But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!
>> 
>> 
>>  My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
>>  telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
>>  it over.
>> 
>>  I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
>>  difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
>>  clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!
>> 
>>  The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
>>  set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.
>> 
>> 
>>  Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and
>>  connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near
>>  the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was
>>  flawless.
>> 
>> 
>>  I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure
>>  what to do.
>> 
>> 
>>  How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?
>> 
>>  Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to
>>  download them on to the Apple TV?
>> 
>>  I couldn't find an area where I 

RE: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Tim Cook and a few others at Apple could answer that question, but they of 
course won't and everything else is complete speculation and guessing. I assume 
it is possible that they may release an update since I believe the current 
model does not support 4K and it would make sense with that technology becoming 
more purvasive that Apple would release an Apple TV that supports it. 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
billy inglis
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 2:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the market next 
year sometime. Is this right?, Billy

On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:
> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
> investigate what is available in South Africa.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> From: Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv
>
> Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct. 
>  Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share 
> there info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
> favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection 
> to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or 
> some other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert 
> my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them. 
>  The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to 
> control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can 
> control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the 
> network TV apps at that have on demand content.
>
>   On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Hello Sieghard and list
>   Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
> movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can 
> one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
>   I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
> wants to access the tv.
>   Regards
>   Fanus
>
>
>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>   Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>
>   Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
> typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
> bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
> invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.
>
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Terri Stimmel
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>
>   Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I 
> really appreciate it.
>
>
>   I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
>   But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!
>
>
>   My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
>   telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
>   it over.
>
>   I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
>   difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
>   clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!
>
>   The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
>   set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.
>
>
>   Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and
>   connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near
>   the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was
>   flawless.
>
>
>   I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure
>   what to do.
>
>
>   How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?
>
>   Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to
>   download them on to the Apple TV?
>
>   I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't
>   know where

Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread billy inglis
hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the 
market next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy


On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote:

Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
investigate what is available in South Africa.
Regards
Fanus


From: Kliphton Miller
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct.  
Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share there 
info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection to 
my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or some 
other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert my 
movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them.  The 
most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to control the 
appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can control HBO, 
netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the network TV apps 
at that have on demand content.

  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hello Sieghard and list
  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can one 
hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
wants to access the tv.
  Regards
  Fanus


  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
appreciate it.


  I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
  But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!


  My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
  telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
  it over.

  I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
  difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
  clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!

  The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
  set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.


  Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and
  connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near
  the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was
  flawless.


  I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure
  what to do.


  How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?

  Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to
  download them on to the Apple TV?

  I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't
  know where to look.


  Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv
  shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?

  Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to
  search for such things.

  I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps
  just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.


  Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and
  not just articles?

  I know NPR has a news app.


  Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to mess
  around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy I bought
  it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it.


  Thank you,


  Terri


  On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:
  > Hi Terri,
  >
  > I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same 
one and I love it.
  >
  > As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, 
you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going dow

Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-04 Thread Fanus
Hello Kliphton and Sieghard
Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall 
investigate what is available in South Africa.
Regards
Fanus


From: Kliphton Miller 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct.  
Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share there 
info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection to 
my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or some 
other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert my 
movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them.  The 
most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to control the 
appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can control HBO, 
netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the network TV apps 
at that have on demand content.

  On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hello Sieghard and list
  Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can one 
hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
  I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
wants to access the tv.
  Regards
  Fanus


  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
  Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

  Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
appreciate it.


  I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it. 
  But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!


  My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time, 
  telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took 
  it over.

  I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very 
  difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little 
  clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!

  The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new 
  set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.


  Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and 
  connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near 
  the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was 
  flawless.


  I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure 
  what to do.


  How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?

  Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to 
  download them on to the Apple TV?

  I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't 
  know where to look.


  Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv 
  shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?

  Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to 
  search for such things.

  I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps 
  just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.


  Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and 
  not just articles?

  I know NPR has a news app.


  Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to mess 
  around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy I bought 
  it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it.


  Thank you,


  Terri


  On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:
  > Hi Terri,
  >
  > I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same 
one and I love it.
  >
  > As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, 
you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going down, 
you have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down rocker.
  >
  > To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Pl

RE: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Kliphton,

Just thought I add to your very good and concise post about the Apple TV that 
even though Donald Trump may not agree, the world is larger than the United 
States and all these channels you can watch/listen to on the Apple TV if you 
have an existing subscription are limited to the US. Fanus is in South Africa 
and I’m in Canada and while we have Netflix here, there is a lot less content 
available than on the american Netflix due to copyright and licensing issues 
and most of the other ones you mentioned are not available even in Canada let 
alone elsewhere in the world. I find it amazing how some companies tute their 
horn about all these great devices but they forget to mention that you can only 
get them in the United States, Amazon is one example.

Fanus, as for the Apple TV, it still is a wonderful device even in Canada since 
it does allow me to  use apps like Youtube, many apps from tech sites like 
Engadget, Twit TV and also Podcasts. I can stream music and of course movies I 
bought from iTunes, you can rent iTunes movies which I assume is available in 
many countries and Netflix is also available in many countries and it’s 
probably the most accessible experience on the Apple TV. Furthermore I can 
Airplay anything from my iPhone to the Apple TV even if there I sno native app 
and if I want to show photos to friends on the big screen then I can also do 
that.

It’s not a super expensive device as Apple things are concerned and as Kliphton 
said, it is fully accessible with it’s own version of Voiceover. It’s a pretty 
good device to have if you are at all invested in the Apple Echo system and in 
the future it will also play nice with many home automation devices if you are 
into this type of stuff.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliphton Miller
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv

Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct.  
Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share there 
info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection to 
my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or some 
other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert my 
movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them.  The 
most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to control the 
appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can control HBO, 
netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the network TV apps 
at that have on demand content.
On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus 
<buys.fa...@gmail.com<mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Sieghard and list
Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain the 
purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can one 
hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
wants to access the tv.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
appreciate it.


I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it.
But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!


My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time,
telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took
it over.

I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very
difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little
clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!

The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new
set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.


Also, one featur

Re: purpose of apple tv

2016-11-03 Thread Kliphton Miller
Well, it does more than stream music an movies.  You can log in to most 
channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or direct.  
Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to share there 
info with you.  The appleTV also has some games to be played on it.  My 
favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie collection to 
my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on for Plex or some 
other third party.  And the best part about it, I don’t have to convert my 
movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse will stream them.  The 
most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need sited help to control the 
appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen so we can control HBO, 
netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, including the network TV apps 
at that have on demand content.
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Sieghard and list
> Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain 
> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
> movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can 
> one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
> I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
> wants to access the tv.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <>
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
>  
> Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
> typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
> bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
> invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions
> 
> Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
> appreciate it.
> 
> 
> I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it. 
> But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!
> 
> 
> My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time, 
> telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took 
> it over.
> 
> I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very 
> difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little 
> clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!
> 
> The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new 
> set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.
> 
> 
> Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and 
> connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near 
> the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was 
> flawless.
> 
> 
> I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure 
> what to do.
> 
> 
> How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?
> 
> Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to 
> download them on to the Apple TV?
> 
> I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't 
> know where to look.
> 
> 
> Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv 
> shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to 
> search for such things.
> 
> I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps 
> just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.
> 
> 
> Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and 
> not just articles?
> 
> I know NPR has a news app.
> 
> 
> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to mess 
> around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy I bought 
> it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:
> > Hi Terri,
> >
> > I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same 
> > one and I love it.
> >
> > As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, 
> > you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the to

purpose of apple tv

2016-11-03 Thread Fanus
Hello Sieghard and list
Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain the 
purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music and 
movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. can one 
hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.?
I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who 
wants to access the tv.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and 
user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for easier 
typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV completely with a 
bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if there is a way to 
invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions

Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I really 
appreciate it.


I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it. 
But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome!


My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in time, 
telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover on, I took 
it over.

I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very 
difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little 
clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL!

The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the new 
set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such.


Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, and 
connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held it near 
the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set up was 
flawless.


I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not sure 
what to do.


How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there?

Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to 
download them on to the Apple TV?

I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I don't 
know where to look.


Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or tv 
shows, how do I go about finding such stuff?

Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how to 
search for such things.

I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some apps 
just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them.


Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, and 
not just articles?

I know NPR has a news app.


Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to mess 
around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy I bought 
it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it.


Thank you,


Terri


On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote:
> Hi Terri,
>
> I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same one 
> and I love it.
>
> As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, you 
> have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going down, 
> you have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down rocker.
>
> To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times and after 
> a few tries, VoiceOver should begin speaking.
>
> When inputting text, the keyboard is layed out a little diffrently with the 
> first row being the letters A to Z and the next row below being the numbers 
> and punctuation symbols.  Below that row is buttons to toggle between 
> lowercase and uppercase letters, but if you press the Play/Pause button, this 
> will do the same.
>
> You can also use Siri to dictate anything in an edit field, this also 
> includes passwords.  Simply press and hold the Siri button and dictate.  When 
> you're done, let go of the button and your text will be inputted.
>
> While on the Home screen, you can even ask Siri, by pressing and holding 
> while you talk and letting go when your done.
>
> You can always check on www.applevis.com for How To's on using the Apple TV.  
> I believe that David Woodbridge has quite a few podcasts on doing just about 
> anything on the Apple TV.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>
> From: Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com>
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: 2016/11/02 10:12 AM
> Subject: Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
> Well, I broke down and purchased my new Appl