Re: text of language books
The problem with Bookshare is that the texts are not verified and if their accent marks which there are an awful lot of in Spanish probably there’s going to be 1 million errors. Deidre > On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I would check with Bookshare. > They are getting more and more text books for elementary school through > advanced degrees. > You might even want to call them and ask about beginning Spanish text books. > I know they have lots of books in Spanish. > 650.352.0198 > Hours: M-F 9-5. > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:15 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: text of language books > > Hello all, > I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words > which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent > marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio > both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it > pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's > not a course of study. > I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be > audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. > When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking > these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too > would not read. >I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking, but > it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things plus > lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow and > requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also > don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't understand > the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along and doing a > few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing and I'm no > longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to me how to stay > inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting back to what seems > like the opening page. >I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are good but > I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more permanently in my > memory. >I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or miss > what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses offered > for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what will work > seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader. > >Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons > written out for learning Spanish? > > Deidre > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C59a8387a2fd04ea3058108d796a0ad3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637143489148675226sdata=QDkwY%2BYFkqi549ozu9lk5mGnpWSdJOfp0yFy2yCAKCQ%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F008e01d5c889%25248617f750%25249247e5f0%2524%2540netdata=02%7C01%7C%7C59a8387a2fd04ea3058108d796a0ad3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637143489148675226sdata=O05Z8i9WSuiHJjKQZ1DKhlE1%2Foxx3PMgz9tm6VVffjc%3Dreserved=0. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- >
RE: text of language books
Harry the native Books App with voice over does not read the text. Too bad. I guess it's back to my recorded books which are easy and require no fussing with. Duo Lingo is so repetitive, it's tedious. I've found the same to be true of other audio course work like the Pinzler series. I guess if I want to look at spellings I'll just randomly pull up lists of things on-line using my PC. My braile skills are not good enough to interpret all the contractions quickly enough to make it worth it though I do comprehend the pronunciation of words well enough that it might be doable. And does anyone else feel like Learning Ally's web site is needlessly obscure? How I love the ease of navigating the BARD mobile site on my phone. Deidre From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books The text is all there and you can change font size and colour if you have enough sight to use those features. Some of the books even have embedded audio recordings of the dialogues: I have this one and the dialogue audio recordings are great https://books.apple.com/gb/book/enjoy-spanish-intermediate-to-upper-intermediate-course/id942879069 Harry -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000d01d5c946%2442365b90%24c6a312b0%24%40net.
RE: text of language books
The usb thumb drive or flash drive has the audio of the book. You would hear the pronunication, but you would not get the spelling. But you can also take the Hadley course online from them as well. If you call Hadley and ask to be connected to Student Services, they can answer your questions and perhaps steer you in the right direction. Jan -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5e1a93f2.1c69fb81.456d7.5650SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: text of language books
Once you know how to pronounce the vowels the rest is easy. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5e1a93f2.1c69fb81.1e52f.5647SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: text of language books
very cool, thank you. I got distracted and hadn't looked it up yet! Will do that shortly. From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books The text is all there and you can change font size and colour if you have enough sight to use those features. Some of the books even have embedded audio recordings of the dialogues: I have this one and the dialogue audio recordings are great https://books.apple.com/gb/book/enjoy-spanish-intermediate-to-upper-intermediate-course/id942879069 Harry On 11 Jan 2020, at 19:07, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote: Harry, do you see the text in books for the Teach Yourself series you referred to? I didn't see them, but I'll do a serch. Deidre -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way slowly through the lessons! Good luck! Harry On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too would not read. I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page. I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more permanently in my memory. I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader. Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons written out for learning Spanish? Deidre -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01d5c889%248617f750%249247e5f0%24%40net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searche
Re: text of language books
You can download Spanish verb conjugations and phrases from the web (save Safari web pages in Books) and turn the rotor t Language and get VoiceOver to read them out in Spanish? Just a thought Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 19:04, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Harry > I thought of switching my phone to Spanish but am terrified I won't > understand much. I understand that anything read will be read in English > since that is the language my phone is set to. What I want to see is the > spelling of words in phrases and sentences and verb conjugations, as well as > lists of vocabulary. The pronunciation is not the difficult part for me, and > I can always go to the i Phone translator and plug in the same words if I > want to hear them pronounced right. > I want to find some text books I can read on-line or download to my phone. I > don't need audio. Plenty of that is available through the recording houses > for the blind. >I've listened to a ton of language podcasts on YouTube, which are great > but the teachers write things on the board which do not appear anywhere other > than on the video for the sighted viewers pleasure. > > Deidre > -Original Message- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:22 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: text of language books > > I have multiple language voices installed and, yes, VoiceOver recognises that > an Italian novel in Apple Books is to be read out in Italian - but a book in > English which has Italian conversations and vocabulary lists and verb tables > in Italian are still all read out in an English voice. > Harry > >> On 11 Jan 2020, at 15:18, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> If you set your VoiceOver voice to the default voice, it should change >> automatically. >> If you have multiple voices installed and are not using what shows as the >> default voice, it will not change automatically. >> >> HTH, >> >> >> Richard >> >> Live long and prosper >> >> >> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:06 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: text of language books >> >> I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books >> are part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change >> automatically - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My >> only solution is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can >> pick my way slowly through the lessons! >> Good luck! >> Harry >> >>>> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written >>> words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be >>> accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for >>> text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is >>> great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look >>> at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. >>> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to >>> be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing >>> read. >>> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm >>> thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash >>> cards but they too would not read. >>> I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am >>> overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >>> I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things >>> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very >>> slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will >>> allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly >>> and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll >>> be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is >>> the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left >>> off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue >>> to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page. >>> I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are >>> good but I'd like to see words printed out s
Re: text of language books
The text is all there and you can change font size and colour if you have enough sight to use those features. Some of the books even have embedded audio recordings of the dialogues: I have this one and the dialogue audio recordings are great https://books.apple.com/gb/book/enjoy-spanish-intermediate-to-upper-intermediate-course/id942879069 Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 19:07, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Harry, do you see the text in books for the Teach Yourself series you > referred to? I didn't see them, but I'll do a serch. > > Deidre > > -Original Message- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: text of language books > > I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are > part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically > - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution > is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way > slowly through the lessons! > Good luck! > Harry > >> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words >> which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent >> marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio >> both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it >> pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's >> not a course of study. >> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be >> audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. >> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking >> these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too >> would not read. >> I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking, >> but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >> I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things >> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow >> and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also >> don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't >> understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along >> and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing >> and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to >> me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting >> back to what seems like the opening page. >> I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are >> good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more >> permanently in my memory. >> I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or >> miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses >> offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what >> will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons >> written out for learning Spanish? >> >> Deidre >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01d5c889%248617f750%249247e5f0%24%40net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member'
RE: text of language books
Jan I thought of the Hadley course but my braile skills aren't complete. What do you mean by "usb?" It might be worth giving it a try. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00b501d5c8b4%244209baa0%24c61d2fe0%24%40net.
RE: text of language books
Harry, do you see the text in books for the Teach Yourself series you referred to? I didn't see them, but I'll do a serch. Deidre -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way slowly through the lessons! Good luck! Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Hello all, > I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words > which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent > marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio > both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it > pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's > not a course of study. > I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be > audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. > When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking > these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too > would not read. >I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking, > but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things > plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow > and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also > don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't > understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along > and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing > and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to > me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting > back to what seems like the opening page. >I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are > good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more > permanently in my memory. >I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or > miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses > offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what > will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader. > >Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons > written out for learning Spanish? > > Deidre > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01d5c889%248617f750%249247e5f0%24%40net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/46528A8F-4660-4CD7-8D94-B739B8A44D5B%40icloud.com. -- The following information is im
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Harry I thought of switching my phone to Spanish but am terrified I won't understand much. I understand that anything read will be read in English since that is the language my phone is set to. What I want to see is the spelling of words in phrases and sentences and verb conjugations, as well as lists of vocabulary. The pronunciation is not the difficult part for me, and I can always go to the i Phone translator and plug in the same words if I want to hear them pronounced right. I want to find some text books I can read on-line or download to my phone. I don't need audio. Plenty of that is available through the recording houses for the blind. I've listened to a ton of language podcasts on YouTube, which are great but the teachers write things on the board which do not appear anywhere other than on the video for the sighted viewers pleasure. Deidre -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books I have multiple language voices installed and, yes, VoiceOver recognises that an Italian novel in Apple Books is to be read out in Italian - but a book in English which has Italian conversations and vocabulary lists and verb tables in Italian are still all read out in an English voice. Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 15:18, Richard Turner wrote: > > If you set your VoiceOver voice to the default voice, it should change > automatically. > If you have multiple voices installed and are not using what shows as the > default voice, it will not change automatically. > > HTH, > > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: text of language books > > I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are > part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically > - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution > is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way > slowly through the lessons! > Good luck! > Harry > >> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written >> words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be >> accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for >> text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is >> great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look >> at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. >> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to >> be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. >> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm >> thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash >> cards but they too would not read. >> I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am >> overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >> I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things >> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very >> slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will >> allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly >> and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll >> be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is >> the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left >> off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue >> to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page. >> I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are >> good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more >> permanently in my memory. >> I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or >> miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of >> courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss >> to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other >> screen reader. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons >> written out for learning Spanish? >> >> Deidre >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >&
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Hi Deidre, The Hadley Institute for the Blind has beginners Spanish in braille and usb both together so that you can hear the pronunciation and read the braille for spelling ing 1conent marks. You get to keep your materials after completing the course, and you get a certificate. It is free. Does anyone on this list have the 80: number for Hadley? I think that it might be 800 323 4238, but I am not quite sure. It cannot hurt to try the number. Jan -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5e1a1b8d.1c69fb81.62033.4fa2SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
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Right, because they do not have the codes in them to trigger the language switch. I don’t' really know the technology around that, but I know if I go to a web site and it has different languages the languages switch automatically. Or, even sometimes Emails from people in other countries will read part in English and part in the language of their country. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books I have multiple language voices installed and, yes, VoiceOver recognises that an Italian novel in Apple Books is to be read out in Italian - but a book in English which has Italian conversations and vocabulary lists and verb tables in Italian are still all read out in an English voice. Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 15:18, Richard Turner wrote: > > If you set your VoiceOver voice to the default voice, it should change > automatically. > If you have multiple voices installed and are not using what shows as the > default voice, it will not change automatically. > > HTH, > > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com > mp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C6122efa8adf94a946e6708d796b27152%7C84df9e7fe9f640 > afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637143565453229026sdata=bcFYJuapOSjl > wnlFjHCrlU107%2Bf2NvDF1TujjD36tCE%3Dreserved=0 > > -Original Message- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: text of language books > > I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are > part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically > - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution > is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way > slowly through the lessons! > Good luck! > Harry > >> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the >> written words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know >> there will be accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text >> alone or for text and audio both, this might work. The translater on >> my iphone is great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows >> you to look at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. >> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to >> be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. >> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm >> thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash >> cards but they too would not read. >> I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am >> overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >> I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things >> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is >> very slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands >> will allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson >> effortlessly and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, >> Sword, etc. I'll be going along and doing a few lessons one after >> another then there is the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to >> continue where I've left off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside >> the lessons and continue to proceed without getting back to what seems like >> the opening page. >> I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are >> good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more >> permanently in my memory. >> I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or >> miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of >> courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or >> miss to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any >> other screen reader. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons >> written out for learning Spanish? >> >> Deidre >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly ra
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I have multiple language voices installed and, yes, VoiceOver recognises that an Italian novel in Apple Books is to be read out in Italian - but a book in English which has Italian conversations and vocabulary lists and verb tables in Italian are still all read out in an English voice. Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 15:18, Richard Turner wrote: > > If you set your VoiceOver voice to the default voice, it should change > automatically. > If you have multiple voices installed and are not using what shows as the > default voice, it will not change automatically. > > HTH, > > > Richard > > Live long and prosper > > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > > -Original Message- > From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: text of language books > > I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are > part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically > - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution > is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way > slowly through the lessons! > Good luck! > Harry > >> On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written >> words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be >> accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for >> text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is >> great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look >> at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. >> I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to >> be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. >> When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm >> thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash >> cards but they too would not read. >> I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am >> overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >> I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things >> plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very >> slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will >> allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly >> and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll >> be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is >> the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left >> off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue >> to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page. >> I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are >> good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more >> permanently in my memory. >> I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or >> miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of >> courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss >> to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other >> screen reader. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons >> written out for learning Spanish? >> >> Deidre >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m >> ail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C >> 0965c86da53c41caa98408d796a7d0b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C >> 1%7C0%7C637143519806063279sdata=VYRlSja%2BIe49nZ9T2VFrq3bVZBB8Rpw >> G9lEkrkMh7D0%3Dreserved=0 >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a
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If you set your VoiceOver voice to the default voice, it should change automatically. If you have multiple voices installed and are not using what shows as the default voice, it will not change automatically. HTH, Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: text of language books I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way slowly through the lessons! Good luck! Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Hello all, > I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written > words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be > accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for > text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is > great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look > at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. > I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to > be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. > When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm > thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash > cards but they too would not read. >I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am > overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things > plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very > slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will > allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly > and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll > be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is > the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left > off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue > to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page. >I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are > good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more > permanently in my memory. >I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or > miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of > courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss > to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other > screen reader. > >Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons > written out for learning Spanish? > > Deidre > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m > ail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C > 0965c86da53c41caa98408d796a7d0b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C > 1%7C0%7C637143519806063279sdata=VYRlSja%2BIe49nZ9T2VFrq3bVZBB8Rpw > G9lEkrkMh7D0%3Dreserved=0 > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F008e01d5c889%25248617f750%25249247e5f0%2524%2540netdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0965c86da53c41caa98408d796a7d0b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637143519806063279sdata=pciBZCnv9Tg%2Fq2%2FcbE7Y%2BAu2cp8XDmxAlS06Epz%2FZHU%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself
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I would check with Bookshare. They are getting more and more text books for elementary school through advanced degrees. You might even want to call them and ask about beginning Spanish text books. I know they have lots of books in Spanish. 650.352.0198 Hours: M-F 9-5. Richard Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: text of language books Hello all, I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's not a course of study. I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too would not read. I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking, but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting back to what seems like the opening page. I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more permanently in my memory. I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader. Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons written out for learning Spanish? Deidre -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C59a8387a2fd04ea3058108d796a0ad3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637143489148675226sdata=QDkwY%2BYFkqi549ozu9lk5mGnpWSdJOfp0yFy2yCAKCQ%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F008e01d5c889%25248617f750%25249247e5f0%2524%2540netdata=02%7C01%7C%7C59a8387a2fd04ea3058108d796a0ad3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637143489148675226sdata=O05Z8i9WSuiHJjKQZ1DKhlE1%2Foxx3PMgz9tm6VVffjc%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR1701MB1901136B397998D51F4E2C0FB73B0%40MWHPR1701MB1901.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
Re: text of language books
I am learning Italian but the Teach Yourself books I have in Apple Books are part English, partly in Italian and VoiceOver does not change automatically - so Italian words are often not recognisable when spoken. My only solution is to change the text size to pretty huge on my iPad so I can pick my way slowly through the lessons! Good luck! Harry > On 11 Jan 2020, at 14:15, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone > wrote: > > Hello all, > I'm looking for books on beginner's Spanish. I want to see the written words > which I thought Voice Dream might work for. I know there will be accent > marks, but if a text is designed for both text alone or for text and audio > both, this might work. The translater on my iphone is great, because it > pronounces things properly plus allows you to look at the spelling, but it's > not a course of study. > I went to Apple books on my phone but most of the listings seemed to be > audio. I hit on the sample button for several offerings, and nothing read. > When I look at samples of other books, they read just fine, so I'm thinking > these are audio books not texts. I tried to sample flash cards but they too > would not read. >I'm thinking there might be something very obvious I am overlooking, > but it hasn't made itself apparent to me yet! >I've got the Duo Lingo App downloaded which both pronounces things > plus lets you spell them out so that is good, but sometimes it is very slow > and requires some typing input that is more than my hands will allow. I also > don't know how to move from lesson tolesson effortlessly and don't > understand the symbols like Chest, Heart, Sword, etc. I'll be going along > and doing a few lessons one after another then there is the rewards thing > and I'm no longer able to continue where I've left off. It's not clear to > me how to stay inside the lessons and continue to proceed without getting > back to what seems like the opening page. >I have a few books downloaded that I am listening to and that are > good but I'd like to see words printed out so I can lodge them more > permanently in my memory. >I fear if I buy a bunch of lessons on-line that it will be hit or > miss what works best with voice over. On the PC there are lots of courses > offered for money, but I likewise fear it would be hit or miss to find what > will work seamlessly with Jaws or System Access or any other screen reader. > >Does anyone have any suggestions of where to turn to to see lessons > written out for learning Spanish? > > Deidre > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01d5c889%248617f750%249247e5f0%24%40net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/46528A8F-4660-4CD7-8D94-B739B8A44D5B%40icloud.com.
