Re: Ot, READING BRF FILES ON THE EDGE AND ON THE SMARTBETTLE WITH AN iPhone 8!!!
I have given up on braille and the bard app. I have literally spent *hours* on the thing. I hate it. On Nov 10, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: HiEveryone; I am experiencing total frustration with the Braille Edge and, the SmartBettle. On the Smartbettle I am trying to read (BRF files using the Bard Mobile app. I can open them however; I have this gigantic file that I am trying to navigate through. I am trying to search for passages in the files. I am having no luck at all. Please reply to me off list and maybe we can get on the phone. God Bless Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Ot, READING BRF FILES ON THE EDGE AND ON THE SMARTBETTLE WITH AN iPhone 8!!!
HiEveryone; I am experiencing total frustration with the Braille Edge and, the SmartBettle. On the Smartbettle I am trying to read (BRF files using the Bard Mobile app. I can open them however; I have this gigantic file that I am trying to navigate through. I am trying to search for passages in the files. I am having no luck at all. Please reply to me off list and maybe we can get on the phone. God Bless Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading .brf Files With the iPhone
Both Braille input and output have three modes starting with iOS 8. There's contracted, uncontracted, and eight-dot. With a .brf file, you should use 8-dot, since these files are all upper-case. With your "capitalization" example, it looks like you're using Unified English Braille. If you want US grade 2, you can set this in Accessibeality, Voiceover, Braille. Unified English Braille will be used increasingly in the US and Canada, and has different rules. HtH, Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Keith B. wrote: > > So I made sure my display was in un-contracted, 8-dot mode and loaded one > file in several programs, including Bard. But it didn't look like good > Braille. For example, it contained words followed by definitions. So here is > how it would look. > > optical3 having to do with the eyes or vision4 > > I also noticed that it had the word capitalization in it, which looked like > the word capitaliz followed by a letter sign, capital sign, n. > > Any ideas as to what may be going on? Thanks for any suggestions. > >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 6:46:31 AM UTC-5, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> You can also read these files using Bard if you choose. Often, Bard will >> show up as a choice in the "open in" menu. >> >> Teresa >> >> Winging its way from my iPod >> >> > On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:51 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> > >> > Set your braille display to 8-dot braille output with dots 2 3 6 space. >> > Make sure you are not in contracted braille mode. Now, you will be able to >> > read the file in any of the file viewing apps. >> > >> > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> > Email: dchit...@gmail.com >> > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On 3 Jun 2015, at 07:40, Keith Bundy wrote: >> >> >> >> I am wondering how one can read .brf files using the iPhone and a >> >> Braille display. These are not files from Bard, but are other files in >> >> a .brf format. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Keith Bundy >> >> >> >> Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD >> >> at http://www.keithbundy.org >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> >> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> >> for this list can be searched at >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> --- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "VIPhone" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> >> email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> > have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> > for this list can be searched at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> > --- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "VIPhone" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> > email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/opto
Re: Reading .brf Files With the iPhone
So I made sure my display was in un-contracted, 8-dot mode and loaded one file in several programs, including Bard. But it didn't look like good Braille. For example, it contained words followed by definitions. So here is how it would look. optical3 having to do with the eyes or vision4 I also noticed that it had the word capitalization in it, which looked like the word capitaliz followed by a letter sign, capital sign, n. Any ideas as to what may be going on? Thanks for any suggestions. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 6:46:31 AM UTC-5, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > You can also read these files using Bard if you choose. Often, Bard will > show up as a choice in the "open in" menu. > > Teresa > > Winging its way from my iPod > > > On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:51 PM, David Chittenden > wrote: > > > > Set your braille display to 8-dot braille output with dots 2 3 6 space. > Make sure you are not in contracted braille mode. Now, you will be able to > read the file in any of the file viewing apps. > > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > > Email: dchit...@gmail.com > > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 3 Jun 2015, at 07:40, Keith Bundy > > wrote: > >> > >> I am wondering how one can read .brf files using the iPhone and a > >> Braille display. These are not files from Bard, but are other files in > >> a .brf format. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. > >> > >> Keith > >> > >> -- > >> Keith Bundy > >> > >> Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD > >> at http://www.keithbundy.org > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you > have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives > for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com . > >> To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com > . > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you > have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you > feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives > for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+u...@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to vip...@googlegroups.com > . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading .brf Files With the iPhone
You can also read these files using Bard if you choose. Often, Bard will show up as a choice in the "open in" menu. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod > On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:51 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Set your braille display to 8-dot braille output with dots 2 3 6 space. Make > sure you are not in contracted braille mode. Now, you will be able to read > the file in any of the file viewing apps. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 3 Jun 2015, at 07:40, Keith Bundy wrote: >> >> I am wondering how one can read .brf files using the iPhone and a >> Braille display. These are not files from Bard, but are other files in >> a .brf format. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. >> >> Keith >> >> -- >> Keith Bundy >> >> Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD >> at http://www.keithbundy.org >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading .brf Files With the iPhone
Set your braille display to 8-dot braille output with dots 2 3 6 space. Make sure you are not in contracted braille mode. Now, you will be able to read the file in any of the file viewing apps. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Jun 2015, at 07:40, Keith Bundy wrote: > > I am wondering how one can read .brf files using the iPhone and a > Braille display. These are not files from Bard, but are other files in > a .brf format. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. > > Keith > > -- > Keith Bundy > > Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD > at http://www.keithbundy.org > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Reading .brf Files With the iPhone
I am wondering how one can read .brf files using the iPhone and a Braille display. These are not files from Bard, but are other files in a .brf format. Any suggestions will be much appreciated. Keith -- Keith Bundy Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD at http://www.keithbundy.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
sorry that was a bit of a knee-jerk response. Yes it would be neat if an app could do this. Is there a lot in BRF that isn't available in other formats we can already access? At 10:28 AM 4/14/2015, you wrote: the way to read contracted braille is, wait for it, on a Braille display or embossing the Braille onto paper. At 07:23 PM 4/13/2015, you wrote: They will never be able to be read with any app, due to the fact that they are translated. Even if there are books written in incontracted braille, it is still impossible to read. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" > To: "vIphone List" > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM > Subject: Reading brf files > > > -- > Brian > How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following informati
Re: Reading brf files
I would love to see this implamented into voice dream reader! There are materials from NLS that are only available in braille, and though I grew up using braille, because of my hands, being a diabetic, I find it very uncomfortable reading for any extended period. The Victor Reader Stream reads them, but my PlexTalk does not. I don't understand there claim that it is a licensing issue, when the Book Port, wich is the same hardware, is capable of reading them. Sounds like political BS to me! GRIN! Have a good one: John John Jacques Amateur Radio Station: KD8PC "Whare Cat Is, Is civilization!" Robert A Heinlein http://www.johnjacques.weebly.com What's your flood risk? Find flood maps, interactive tools, FAQs, and agents in your area. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/552d2b80f3f002b8025cbst01duc -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
the way to read contracted braille is, wait for it, on a Braille display or embossing the Braille onto paper. At 07:23 PM 4/13/2015, you wrote: They will never be able to be read with any app, due to the fact that they are translated. Even if there are books written in incontracted braille, it is still impossible to read. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" > To: "vIphone List" > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM > Subject: Reading brf files > > > -- > Brian > How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
I wonder if it would be possible to add the option to voice dream reader to read brf files? -Original Message- From: Kelly Pierce Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 7:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading brf files If someone has Kurzweil 1000, he can open a BRF file and it will automatically back translate the document. It can then be saved as a text, MS Word or RTF file and placed in Dropbox. VoiceDream Reader can access text files or MS Word files on the iPhone in Dropbox. Kelly On 4/13/15, Brett wrote: Does ILike2Read read brf files with speech? I haven't used it for ages and don't have it on my phone these days. I can't remember if I could use speech or if I had to use my braille display. Perhaps have a look at its description in the app store. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 14 Apr 2015, at 9:09 am, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" To: "vIphone List" Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Reading brf files -- Brian How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http
Re: Reading brf files
I wonder if this is a feature that could be added to voice dream reader? -Original Message- From: Joe Quinn Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading brf files They will never be able to be read with any app, due to the fact that they are translated. Even if there are books written in incontracted braille, it is still impossible to read. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" To: "vIphone List" Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Reading brf files -- Brian How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
Hi, there is a program for windows called wintrans. This program will convert bvraille to text and back to braille too. You just take the brf file and load it and follow the instructions. I do this all the time if there is a book that I can't get intext. Andy and Shubert -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 7:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading brf files I'm not sure I understand. I'd never say never, since I don't know why a translator couldn't be written to convert grade 2 braille into English. I'm also not sure why reading uncontracted braille is impossible. On 04/13/2015 06:23 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: They will never be able to be read with any app, due to the fact that they are translated. Even if there are books written in incontracted braille, it is still impossible to read. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" To: "vIphone List" Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Reading brf files -- Brian How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: Reading brf files
A person who is highly connected with NLS told me NLS has no plans to offer voice support for iOS to read .brf files. The official position apparently is that brf format is for those who wish to read braille. Recorded format is for those to wish to listen. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Apr 2015, at 11:09, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with > speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I > don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the > beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will > be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a > braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" > To: "vIphone List" > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM > Subject: Reading brf files > > > -- > Brian > How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
The Victor Reader Stream will read .BRF files just fine. I don't understand why the app couldn't be made to do it as well! Have a good one: JOHN John Jacques Amateur Radio Station: KD8PC "Whare Cat Is, Is civilization!" Robert A Heinlein http://www.johnjacques.weebly.com 4 Fish to Never Eat Click to Learn 4 Fish to NEVER Eat (avoid these like the plague!) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/552ca2043ee0f22040ebcst04duc -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
If someone has Kurzweil 1000, he can open a BRF file and it will automatically back translate the document. It can then be saved as a text, MS Word or RTF file and placed in Dropbox. VoiceDream Reader can access text files or MS Word files on the iPhone in Dropbox. Kelly On 4/13/15, Brett wrote: > Does ILike2Read read brf files with speech? I haven't used it for ages and > don't have it on my phone these days. I can't remember if I could use speech > or if I had to use my braille display. > > Perhaps have a look at its description in the app store. > > Cheers, > Brett. > > Sent from Brett's iPhone > >> On 14 Apr 2015, at 9:09 am, Arnold Schmidt >> wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone >> with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, >> but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was >> one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is >> offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky >> enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" >> >> To: "vIphone List" >> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM >> Subject: Reading brf files >> >> >> -- >> Brian >> How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> for this list can be searched at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >> feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives >> for this list can be searched at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
Does ILike2Read read brf files with speech? I haven't used it for ages and don't have it on my phone these days. I can't remember if I could use speech or if I had to use my braille display. Perhaps have a look at its description in the app store. Cheers, Brett. Sent from Brett's iPhone > On 14 Apr 2015, at 9:09 am, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with > speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I > don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the > beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will > be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a > braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" > To: "vIphone List" > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM > Subject: Reading brf files > > > -- > Brian > How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
I'm not sure I understand. I'd never say never, since I don't know why a translator couldn't be written to convert grade 2 braille into English. I'm also not sure why reading uncontracted braille is impossible. On 04/13/2015 06:23 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: They will never be able to be read with any app, due to the fact that they are translated. Even if there are books written in incontracted braille, it is still impossible to read. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" To: "vIphone List" Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Reading brf files -- Brian How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
They will never be able to be read with any app, due to the fact that they are translated. Even if there are books written in incontracted braille, it is still impossible to read. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with > speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I > don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the > beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will > be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a > braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. > > Arnold Schmidt > - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" > To: "vIphone List" > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM > Subject: Reading brf files > > > -- > Brian > How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading brf files
Unfortunately, I have never found a way to read .brf files on a iPhone with speech. I really hoped that the bard app would include this feature, but I don't know that they ever will. I asked this question when I was one of the beta testers for it, and got the feeling that if it ever is offered, it will be several updates away, if at all. One has to be lucky enough to own a braille display to read .brf files with the bard app. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Brian Albriton" To: "vIphone List" Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:14 PM Subject: Reading brf files -- Brian How can one read brf files on the iPhone with text to speech? -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Reading brf files
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Re: reading .brf files on the iphone
Hi, No, I have I Like to Read Pro, and it can't even open BRF files, much less read them with speech. I checked when this subject came up a couple of weeks ago. Best, Anna On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:11 PM, Brett wrote: > Hi > > Check out the discrivtion of ILike2Read in the app store. I haven't used it > in ages, but I seem to remember that it could read BRF files with speech. > > Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone > >> On 23 Feb 2014, at 3:39 pm, don bishop wrote: >> >> Thankws for reminding me of the bard app. Actually what would really be >> great is if I could find an app which would read the .brf file with speech, >> but I j can go with braille ifnecessary. Just lazy I guess. >> >> Thanks, >> don >> >> I >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Teresa Cochran >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Date: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:45 pm >> Subject: Re: reading .brf files on the iphone >> >>> >>> >>> You will need a Braille display to read these files on your device. If >>> you're in the US, Bard Mobile works great. It has very specific keystrokes >>> to use for finding your place in a book and navigating, so using the manual >>> is highly recommended. I know there are other apps that will do this, but I >>> haven't used them so I can't comment. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Teresa >>> >>> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >>> >>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:34 PM, don bishop wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> What's the best app or apps for reading .brf fileson the iphone 5s using >>>> ios7.06. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Don >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> >>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> >>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visit
Re: reading .brf files on the iphone
Hi Check out the discrivtion of ILike2Read in the app store. I haven't used it in ages, but I seem to remember that it could read BRF files with speech. Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone > On 23 Feb 2014, at 3:39 pm, don bishop wrote: > > Thankws for reminding me of the bard app. Actually what would really be > great is if I could find an app which would read the .brf file with speech, > but I j can go with braille ifnecessary. Just lazy I guess. > > Thanks, > don > > I > > - Original Message - > From: Teresa Cochran > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Date: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:45 pm > Subject: Re: reading .brf files on the iphone > >> >> >> You will need a Braille display to read these files on your device. If >> you're in the US, Bard Mobile works great. It has very specific keystrokes >> to use for finding your place in a book and navigating, so using the manual >> is highly recommended. I know there are other apps that will do this, but I >> haven't used them so I can't comment. >> >> Hth, >> Teresa >> >> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >> >>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:34 PM, don bishop wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What's the best app or apps for reading .brf fileson the iphone 5s using >>> ios7.06. >>> Thanks, >>> Don >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: reading .brf files on the iphone
You won't be able to read brf files with speech on iOS, even with the bard app. You'd have to turn off speech and read with a display. HtH, Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan On Feb 22, 2014, at 8:39 PM, don bishop wrote: > Thankws for reminding me of the bard app. Actually what would really be > great is if I could find an app which would read the .brf file with speech, > but I j can go with braille ifnecessary. Just lazy I guess. > > Thanks, > don > > I > > - Original Message - > From: Teresa Cochran > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Date: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:45 pm > Subject: Re: reading .brf files on the iphone > >> >> >> You will need a Braille display to read these files on your device. If >> you're in the US, Bard Mobile works great. It has very specific keystrokes >> to use for finding your place in a book and navigating, so using the manual >> is highly recommended. I know there are other apps that will do this, but I >> haven't used them so I can't comment. >> >> Hth, >> Teresa >> >> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >> >> On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:34 PM, don bishop wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What's the best app or apps for reading .brf fileson the iphone 5s using >>> ios7.06. >>> Thanks, >>> Don >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >>> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing >> viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: reading .brf files on the iphone
Thankws for reminding me of the bard app. Actually what would really be great is if I could find an app which would read the .brf file with speech, but I j can go with braille ifnecessary. Just lazy I guess. Thanks, don I - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 22, 2014 7:45 pm Subject: Re: reading .brf files on the iphone > > > You will need a Braille display to read these files on your device. If you're > in the US, Bard Mobile works great. It has very specific keystrokes to use > for finding your place in a book and navigating, so using the manual is > highly recommended. I know there are other apps that will do this, but I > haven't used them so I can't comment. > > Hth, > Teresa > > Slow down; you'll get there faster. > > On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:34 PM, don bishop wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > What's the best app or apps for reading .brf fileson the iphone 5s using > > ios7.06. > > Thanks, > > Don > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > > Google Group. > > > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: reading .brf files on the iphone
You will need a Braille display to read these files on your device. If you're in the US, Bard Mobile works great. It has very specific keystrokes to use for finding your place in a book and navigating, so using the manual is highly recommended. I know there are other apps that will do this, but I haven't used them so I can't comment. Hth, Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:34 PM, don bishop wrote: > Hi, > > What's the best app or apps for reading .brf fileson the iphone 5s using > ios7.06. > Thanks, > Don > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing > viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Re: reading brf files?
If you search the list archive, we had a recent thread on this topic. Basically, the upshot is that you can convert the files to pdf or epub and read them with a Braille display only. No speech. HtH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 27, 2013, at 12:23 AM, adam morris wrote: > does anyone know of an app that will read these files? > > -- > > Adam Morris > > Phone: +61 2 888 93939 > > email: a...@damorris.com > > Skype: adamwilliam > > Twitter: awmorris > > msn: a...@damorris.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
I don't have these devices, but I am pretty sure they have a translation option that will read the books in grade Two format. The IDevices don't have this feature. Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:24 AM, "Russ Kiehne" wrote: > I use my booksense or victor reader stream to read brf files. > > -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:37 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone > > It will only work on a Braille display. Speech will make gibberish out of it. > > Teresa > > > Visualize whirled peas. > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: > >> You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. >> >> -Original Message- From: Moop Curran >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >> >> Hi, >> So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille >> display? If so, this is really unfortunate. >> Courtney >> >> >> >> >> Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM >> Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. >> Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that >> there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf >> as well. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Mary, >> >> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an >> aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into >> Grade One. >> >> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >> epub file. >> >> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >> export the files to pdf format. >> >> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced >> by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but >> since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if >> you use speech. >> >> I hope this helps. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa, >> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files >> if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck >> do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then >> wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the >> epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that >> converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would >> have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm >> missing some big step here. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
I use my booksense or victor reader stream to read brf files. -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone It will only work on a Braille display. Speech will make gibberish out of it. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. -Original Message- From: Moop Curran Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone Hi, So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille display? If so, this is really unfortunate. Courtney Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf as well. HtH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Mary, IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into Grade One. A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an epub file. You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to export the files to pdf format. Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you use speech. I hope this helps. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Teresa, I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Yes, or use iTunes to place the file into iBooks. You can also change the extension from .brf to .txt and open the file with one of the several text editor apps such as documents2 from Savvy Soda. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20/01/2013, at 6:04, Keith Bundy wrote: > Thanks for all the info. Is this, then a correct summation? > > One could download a web braille file or any other file in brf format, > use a program such as Stanza to convert to epub, and then put in the > Dropbox to upload to the iPhone. Then the file could be read in > braille with contractions off, but speech would be pointless. > > Accurate? > > > On 1/19/13, Russ Kiehne wrote: >> You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Moop Curran >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >> >> Hi, >> So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille >> display? If so, this is really unfortunate. >> Courtney >> >> >> >> >> Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM >> Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. >> >> Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that >> >> there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf >> as well. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Mary, >> >> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an >> >> aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into >> >> Grade One. >> >> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >> epub file. >> >> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >> export the files to pdf format. >> >> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced >> >> by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but >> since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if >> you use speech. >> >> I hope this helps. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa, >> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files >> >> if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck >> >> do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then >> wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the >> >> epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that >> converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would >> >> have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm >> missing some big step here. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+uns
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
>From the little bit you posted, it sounds like it could be a somewhat >interesting basic mystery. The text is in grade II braille. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 20/01/2013, at 2:24, "Russ Kiehne" wrote: > Looking at the following brf file in it's raw form, it's not very readible! > ,,BOOK ,,JACKET ,,9=M,N > ,A TOP -PUT] GAME CR1TOR IS MISS+-- > &! ,H>DYS CRA% 96A DANG]\S ,WEB6 > ,,ALL ,,NEW6 > ,,F/ ,,"T ,,PUBLI%$ > > It seems as if not all epub are created equally. When I used Stanza to > create a epub, it would not work on my victor reader stream. > -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone > > Hi, Mary, > > IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an > aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into > Grade One. > > A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that > represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. > Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an > epub file. > > You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to > export the files to pdf format. > > Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced > by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but > since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you > use speech. > > I hope this helps. :) > > Teresa > > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi Teresa, >> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files >> if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck >> do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then >> wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the >> epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that >> converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would >> have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm >> missing some big step here. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Yes, Keith, that is correct. It's also possible to use ITunes to sync the files, if you place them in the Itunes Books folder and then add them to your library. HtH, Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: > Thanks for all the info. Is this, then a correct summation? > > One could download a web braille file or any other file in brf format, > use a program such as Stanza to convert to epub, and then put in the > Dropbox to upload to the iPhone. Then the file could be read in > braille with contractions off, but speech would be pointless. > > Accurate? > > > On 1/19/13, Russ Kiehne wrote: >> You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Moop Curran >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >> >> Hi, >> So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille >> display? If so, this is really unfortunate. >> Courtney >> >> >> >> >> Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM >> Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. >> >> Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that >> >> there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf >> as well. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Mary, >> >> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an >> >> aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into >> >> Grade One. >> >> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >> epub file. >> >> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >> export the files to pdf format. >> >> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced >> >> by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but >> since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if >> you use speech. >> >> I hope this helps. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa, >> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files >> >> if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck >> >> do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then >> wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the >> >> epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that >> converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would >> >> have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm >> missing some big step here. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more opti
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Thanks for all the info. Is this, then a correct summation? One could download a web braille file or any other file in brf format, use a program such as Stanza to convert to epub, and then put in the Dropbox to upload to the iPhone. Then the file could be read in braille with contractions off, but speech would be pointless. Accurate? On 1/19/13, Russ Kiehne wrote: > You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. > > -Original Message- > From: Moop Curran > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone > > Hi, > So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille > display? If so, this is really unfortunate. > Courtney > > > > > Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM > Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. > > Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. > > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > > I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that > > there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf > as well. > > HtH, > Teresa > > > Visualize whirled peas. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > > Hi, Mary, > > IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an > > aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into > > Grade One. > > A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that > represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. > Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an > epub file. > > You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to > export the files to pdf format. > > Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced > > by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but > since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if > you use speech. > > I hope this helps. :) > > Teresa > > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Teresa, > I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files > > if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck > > do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then > wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the > > epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that > converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would > > have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm > missing some big step here. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Or Openbook or some other back translator. Tina ** Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action. -- 1 John 3:18 - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone Yes, you are correct. The only way to read them without a Braille display is by using an application which has a back translator like Kurzweil on the PC or Louis for the Mac. HTH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 18, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Moop Curran wrote: > Hi, > So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a > braille display? If so, this is really unfortunate. > Courtney > > > Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or > 10 PM Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, > http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded > from the program gallery on that site. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would >> assume that there is a word-processing application for Windows that >> will export to pdf as well. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Mary, >>> >>> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two >>> Braille. As an aside, it does not have a back-translation program >>> to convert brf files into Grade One. >>> >>> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal >>> characters that represent Braille. There is no special computer >>> formatting for a brf file. Therefore, this same text is rendered >>> accurately when it's placed into an epub file. >>> >>> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use >>> TextEdit to export the files to pdf format. >>> >>> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as >>> originally produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks >>> perfect on a Braille display, but since the characters represent >>> Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you use speech. >>> >>> I hope this helps. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> >>> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Teresa, >>>> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to >>>> read brf files if you first convert them to epub for importation >>>> into iBooks. How the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? >>>> And once you did that, then wouldn't it be translated out of >>>> braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? So you'd >>>> need a braille translator together with a program that converted >>>> the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you >>>> would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. >>>> Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Otten >>>> motte...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "VIPhone" Google Grou
Re: Stanza, was Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
No, Stanza is not in the app store. It's a little elusive, and sometimes download links are broken, but CNet seems to be the most reliable one. Amazon used to own Stanza, but it seems to be kind of free-floating these days: http://download.cnet.com/Stanza/3000-2056_4-198177.html HtH, Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Jan 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Scott Davert wrote: > Stanza is also available for the Mac. Louis? I'll have to check into > that. I hope it's in the app store so that I don't have to go digging > for it. Thank you for the tip about braille translation on the Mac! I > have a few brf files I have saved on my Braille Edge that I'd like to > put on the Mac. This seems like the only solution. > > Scott > > On 1/19/13, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> It will only work on a Braille display. Speech will make gibberish out of >> it. >> >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: >> >>> You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. >>> >>> -----Original Message- From: Moop Curran >>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >>> >>> Hi, >>> So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille >>> display? If so, this is really unfortunate. >>> Courtney >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM >>> Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, >>> http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from >>> the program gallery on that site. >>> >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran >>> wrote: >>> >>> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume >>> that there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export >>> to pdf as well. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> >>> Visualize whirled peas. >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Mary, >>> >>> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As >>> an aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files >>> into Grade One. >>> >>> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >>> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >>> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >>> epub file. >>> >>> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >>> export the files to pdf format. >>> >>> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally >>> produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille >>> display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as >>> gibberish if you use speech. >>> >>> I hope this helps. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> >>> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi Teresa, >>> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf >>> files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How >>> the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, >>> then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print >>> in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a >>> program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And >>> then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. >>> Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> motte...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to &
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Stanza is also available for the Mac. Louis? I'll have to check into that. I hope it's in the app store so that I don't have to go digging for it. Thank you for the tip about braille translation on the Mac! I have a few brf files I have saved on my Braille Edge that I'd like to put on the Mac. This seems like the only solution. Scott On 1/19/13, Teresa Cochran wrote: > It will only work on a Braille display. Speech will make gibberish out of > it. > > Teresa > > > Visualize whirled peas. > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: > >> You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. >> >> -Original Message- From: Moop Curran >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >> >> Hi, >> So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille >> display? If so, this is really unfortunate. >> Courtney >> >> >> >> >> Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM >> Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, >> http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from >> the program gallery on that site. >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume >> that there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export >> to pdf as well. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >> Hi, Mary, >> >> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As >> an aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files >> into Grade One. >> >> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >> epub file. >> >> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >> export the files to pdf format. >> >> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally >> produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille >> display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as >> gibberish if you use speech. >> >> I hope this helps. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Teresa, >> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf >> files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How >> the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, >> then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print >> in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a >> program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And >> then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. >> Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
It will only work on a Braille display. Speech will make gibberish out of it. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: > You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. > > -Original Message- From: Moop Curran > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone > > Hi, > So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille > display? If so, this is really unfortunate. > Courtney > > > > > Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM > Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. > Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. > > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > > I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that > there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf as > well. > > HtH, > Teresa > > > Visualize whirled peas. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > > Hi, Mary, > > IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an > aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into > Grade One. > > A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that > represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. > Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an > epub file. > > You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to > export the files to pdf format. > > Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced > by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but > since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you > use speech. > > I hope this helps. :) > > Teresa > > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Teresa, > I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files > if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck > do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't > it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? > So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the > text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read > that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big > step here. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
You would have to use some thing like WinBT to back translate them. -Original Message- From: Moop Curran Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone Hi, So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille display? If so, this is really unfortunate. Courtney Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf as well. HtH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, Mary, IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into Grade One. A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an epub file. You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to export the files to pdf format. Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you use speech. I hope this helps. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Teresa, I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Looking at the following brf file in it's raw form, it's not very readible! ,,BOOK ,,JACKET ,,9=M,N ,A TOP -PUT] GAME CR1TOR IS MISS+-- &! ,H>DYS CRA% 96A DANG]\S ,WEB6 ,,ALL ,,NEW6 ,,F/ ,,"T ,,PUBLI%$ It seems as if not all epub are created equally. When I used Stanza to create a epub, it would not work on my victor reader stream. -Original Message- From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone Hi, Mary, IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into Grade One. A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an epub file. You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to export the files to pdf format. Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you use speech. I hope this helps. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Teresa, I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Yes, you are correct. The only way to read them without a Braille display is by using an application which has a back translator like Kurzweil on the PC or Louis for the Mac. HTH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 18, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Moop Curran wrote: > Hi, > So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille > display? If so, this is really unfortunate. > Courtney > > > Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM > Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. > Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that >> there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf >> as well. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> Visualize whirled peas. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Mary, >>> >>> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an >>> aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files >>> into Grade One. >>> >>> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >>> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >>> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >>> epub file. >>> >>> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >>> export the files to pdf format. >>> >>> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally >>> produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille >>> display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as >>> gibberish if you use speech. >>> >>> I hope this helps. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> >>> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> Hi Teresa, I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Hi, So there's no way to read the .brf files from NLS on ios without a braille display? If so, this is really unfortunate. Courtney Tune into my show, moopie's mix, every Thursday morning at 2 UTC or 10 PM Eastern on the Global Voice Internet Radio, http://www.theglobalvoice.info. Moopie's Mix can also be downloaded from the program gallery on that site. On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that > there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf as > well. > > HtH, > Teresa > > > Visualize whirled peas. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> Hi, Mary, >> >> IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an >> aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into >> Grade One. >> >> A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that >> represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. >> Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an >> epub file. >> >> You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to >> export the files to pdf format. >> >> Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced >> by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but >> since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if >> you use speech. >> >> I hope this helps. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >>> Hi Teresa, >>> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf >>> files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How >>> the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, >>> then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print >>> in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a >>> program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And >>> then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. >>> Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> motte...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
I should add that I was mentioning programs for the Mac. I would assume that there is a word-processing application for Windows that will export to pdf as well. HtH, Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, Mary, > > IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an > aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into > Grade One. > > A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that > represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. > Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an > epub file. > > You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to > export the files to pdf format. > > Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced > by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but > since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you > use speech. > > I hope this helps. :) > > Teresa > > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi Teresa, >> I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files >> if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck >> do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then >> wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the >> epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that >> converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would >> have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm >> missing some big step here. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Hi, Mary, IOS has a built[in translator to convert text into Grade Two Braille. As an aside, it does not have a back-translation program to convert brf files into Grade One. A brf file is actually a plain ASCII text file with normal characters that represent Braille. There is no special computer formatting for a brf file. Therefore, this same text is rendered accurately when it's placed into an epub file. You can use Stanza to convert files to epub. You can also use TextEdit to export the files to pdf format. Again, the text, completely translated into Grade Two as originally produced by NLS, is rendered perfectly. It looks perfect on a Braille display, but since the characters represent Braille, it will be spoken as gibberish if you use speech. I hope this helps. :) Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Teresa, > I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files > if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck > do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't > it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? > So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the > text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read > that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big > step here. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Hi Teresa, I'm confused. What I think you said is that it is possible to read brf files if you first convert them to epub for importation into iBooks. How the heck do you convert a brf file into an epub? And once you did that, then wouldn't it be translated out of braille grade II into regular print in the epub form? So you'd need a braille translator together with a program that converted the text from the braille translator into epub? And then you would have to read that file with grade II translation turned on. Clearly, I'm missing some big step here. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
They're already in Grade 2 Braille when they're produced. This is why you turn contractions off. You don't want to do a double-translation on the file. This can be confusing, I know, but you only want translation on when you're dealing with printed text. The Braille in WebBraille is, one might say, "pre-translated". HtH, Teresa "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: > Any way to read these files in Grade 2 Braille? > > On 1/18/13, Devin wrote: >> With the new bard site, you'd need a zip file extractor first though, and a >> way to open the BRF files. But if you use web braille, yes you can read the >> BRF files. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On 17/01/2013, at 7:53 PM, "Tina Murphy" wrote: >> >>> That is so cool! That means you can download the braille books from >>> the NLS site and read them on your Idevice. >>> Tina >>> ** >>> Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action. >>> -- 1 John 3:18 >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Teresa Cochran" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >>> >>> >>> Yes, you can first convert them to epub or pdf format on your computer >>> and then read them in Ibooks. There are other ways to read them, but >>> most of those I've tried do not allow you to bookmark your place. >>> Ibooks will allow you to pick up where you left off. >>> >>> Also, you can only read them on a display without speech, and you must >>> have contracted Braille off. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> >>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: >>> >>>> I am wondering if it is possible to read .brf files on an iPhone >>>> with >>>> a Braille display. Any thoughts are appreciated. >>>> >>>> Keith >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Keith Bundy >>>> >>>> Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, >>>> SD >>>> at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Any way to read these files in Grade 2 Braille? On 1/18/13, Devin wrote: > With the new bard site, you'd need a zip file extractor first though, and a > way to open the BRF files. But if you use web braille, yes you can read the > BRF files. > > Sent from my iPod > > On 17/01/2013, at 7:53 PM, "Tina Murphy" wrote: > >> That is so cool! That means you can download the braille books from >> the NLS site and read them on your Idevice. >> Tina >> ** >> Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action. >> -- 1 John 3:18 >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Teresa Cochran" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:34 PM >> Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone >> >> >> Yes, you can first convert them to epub or pdf format on your computer >> and then read them in Ibooks. There are other ways to read them, but >> most of those I've tried do not allow you to bookmark your place. >> Ibooks will allow you to pick up where you left off. >> >> Also, you can only read them on a display without speech, and you must >> have contracted Braille off. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> >> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >> >> On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: >> >>> I am wondering if it is possible to read .brf files on an iPhone >>> with >>> a Braille display. Any thoughts are appreciated. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Keith Bundy >>> >>> Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, >>> SD >>> at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> > > > *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- Keith Bundy Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
With the new bard site, you'd need a zip file extractor first though, and a way to open the BRF files. But if you use web braille, yes you can read the BRF files. Sent from my iPod On 17/01/2013, at 7:53 PM, "Tina Murphy" wrote: > That is so cool! That means you can download the braille books from > the NLS site and read them on your Idevice. > Tina > ** > Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action. > -- 1 John 3:18 > > - Original Message - > From: "Teresa Cochran" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone > > > Yes, you can first convert them to epub or pdf format on your computer > and then read them in Ibooks. There are other ways to read them, but > most of those I've tried do not allow you to bookmark your place. > Ibooks will allow you to pick up where you left off. > > Also, you can only read them on a display without speech, and you must > have contracted Braille off. > > HtH, > Teresa > > > "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: > >> I am wondering if it is possible to read .brf files on an iPhone >> with >> a Braille display. Any thoughts are appreciated. >> >> Keith >> >> >> -- >> Keith Bundy >> >> Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, >> SD >> at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
That is so cool! That means you can download the braille books from the NLS site and read them on your Idevice. Tina ** Let us love, not in word or speech, but in truth and action. -- 1 John 3:18 - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone Yes, you can first convert them to epub or pdf format on your computer and then read them in Ibooks. There are other ways to read them, but most of those I've tried do not allow you to bookmark your place. Ibooks will allow you to pick up where you left off. Also, you can only read them on a display without speech, and you must have contracted Braille off. HtH, Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: > I am wondering if it is possible to read .brf files on an iPhone > with > a Braille display. Any thoughts are appreciated. > > Keith > > > -- > Keith Bundy > > Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, > SD > at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
Yes, you can first convert them to epub or pdf format on your computer and then read them in Ibooks. There are other ways to read them, but most of those I've tried do not allow you to bookmark your place. Ibooks will allow you to pick up where you left off. Also, you can only read them on a display without speech, and you must have contracted Braille off. HtH, Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Keith Bundy wrote: > I am wondering if it is possible to read .brf files on an iPhone with > a Braille display. Any thoughts are appreciated. > > Keith > > > -- > Keith Bundy > > Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD > at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Reading .brf Files On The iPhone
I am wondering if it is possible to read .brf files on an iPhone with a Braille display. Any thoughts are appreciated. Keith -- Keith Bundy Check out the latest messages from First Baptist Church of Madison, SD at http://www.keithbundy.org/sermons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
