RE: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support?
Hi Andrew, I did a Google search batch sleep windows 98 and yes apparently the SLEEP.EXE is located on the Windows 98 SE Resource Kit. It wasn't on the First Edition as I just looked. I will have look at a SE cd when I get to work. I remember using a SLEEP utility in Windows 95 and completely forgot about it. I also am in need of slowing things down within a batch file. John -- From: Andrew Borland[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2004 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Simple .exe a remote client can run for support? John Aldrich wrote: How about a sleep command in the batchfile Would that DOS (especially that in Win98) had such a useful command! Regards, Andrew Borland (UK) ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: TR: Problem With WIN XP Professional
You say you have XP SP2 loaded. Have you disabled the firewall in XP SP2 or allowed port access to 5900 5800 5500 There is a default firewall when you load XP SP2 John -Original Message- From: SCHERLINGER Eric (EURIWARE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 18:33 To: 'akshay balsaver'; SCHERLINGER Eric (EURIWARE) Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: TR: Problem With WIN XP Professional The important part of your bandwidth is your upload. Does the winxp pro has a different display configuration from the winxp Home? Because if your upload is enough for a 1024*768 screen it can be not enough for a 1280*1024 for example. Otherwise you can connect on the xp home and connect from the home to the xp pro Eric _ De : akshay balsaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyi : vendredi 26 novembre 2004 11:13 @ : SCHERLINGER Eric(EURIWARE) Cc : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet : Re: TR: Problem With WIN XP Professional Well, Im sorry i should have explained more before. I use the VNC client. I use it over our LAN.Both the computers are connected to the internet on routers. Our bandwidth should give 512 KBPS speed but in practice give us a speed of 200 ~ 210 KBPS. Also,when I use the XP home computer as the server, the XP Prof computer can connect and view the desktop.But connecting to the XP profession desktop is not possible. The firewall is also switched off on both computers. ALso, we have installed WinXP sevice pack 2 on both the pcs. Regards Akshay. On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 SCHERLINGER Eric(EURIWARE) wrote : Most of the time i get this error when i have a lack of bandwidth. So can u give us some detail about your connection do u use the java browser or the vnc client. Best regards Scherlinger Eric -Message d'origine- De : akshay balsaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyi : vendredi 26 novembre 2004 08:46 @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Problem With WIN XP Professional Hi , I have been having a problem connecting to a computer using XP professional with VNC.THe error message im getting is ' sever closed connection unexpectedly ' Does this have anything to do with the lack of support in WIN XP professional for JAVA. It connect to XP Home without any trouble. Regards Akshay ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ATTENTION Le message contenu dans cet email ainsi que dans tout fichier attachi est destini exclusivement aux personnes dont le nom figure ci-dessus. Il peut contenir des informations confidentielles ou protigies par le secret professionnel et dont la divulgation est strictement prohibie. Si vous avez regu cet email par erreur,ditruisez-en le contenu. Vous n'jtes pas autorisi, dans cette hypothhse, ` copier, distribuer ou conserver ce message. Merci. WARNING This information in this mail and in any attachments is intended for the above-mentioned addressees only. It may contain privileged or confidential informationthe review, dissemination or disclosure of which is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please destroy it. In this case, you are not authorisedto disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Thank you. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.asp ATTENTION Le message contenu dans cet email ainsi que dans tout fichier attachi est destini exclusivement aux personnes dont le nom figure ci-dessus. Il peut contenir des informations confidentielles ou protigies par le secret professionnel et dont la divulgation est strictement prohibie. Si vous avez regu cet email par erreur,ditruisez-en le contenu. Vous n'jtes pas autorisi, dans cette hypothhse, ` copier, distribuer ou conserver ce message. Merci. WARNING This information in this mail and in any attachments is intended for the above-mentioned addressees only. It may contain privileged or confidential informationthe review, dissemination or disclosure of which is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please destroy it. In this case, you are not authorisedto disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Thank you. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Java Viewer
Hi Bill, Make sure your browser is upto date with Virtual Machine and Java updates for your browser. An old version of those can upset things. I am in a Windows 95/98/XP environment so can only speak re those. I use IE5.5 for WIN95 (can only use upto that version on WIN95 IE6 won't load) and IE6 for WIN98 onwards. I had had a lot of problems if my Java and Virtual Machine modules were not the latest. Maybe this helps. John -Original Message- From: Bill @ PondExpo.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 05:58 To: William Hooper; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java Viewer Thanks very much William...This got things going...but it seems I can't always make connection with the Java Viewer method...sometimes it works and sometimes notWhen I don't connect, the screen says done but nothing is on the screen...Only blank. Looks like it just doesn't load...I tried re-loading the server side but it didn't make any difference?? Bill - Original Message - From: William Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Java Viewer Bill @ PondExpo.com said: I can't find where the download or file is located or how you get this java based viewerCan someone please help me find,step by step, how to get the java viewer going...Many thanks..Bill The java viewer is served by the built in HTTP server. By default it is always a port 100 below the RFB port. For example if you are using display :0, the RFB port would be 5900 and the HTTP port would be 5800. Using your browser you would go to http://MyVncServer:5800. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC thru VPN
If you want the VPN user to automatically be seen in the LAN network you can include the DNS/WINS in the dial up profile. We do this within our network and the VPN logon appears straight away instead of waiting for them to open and application that points to your Company IP address. Just a thought but it works for us. We also use Checkpoint as our VPN software. John -Original Message- From: Romel Ornedo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:24 To: Angelo Sarto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC thru VPN We are using Check Point VPN-1. I just run the test a couple of hours ago if I could remote control the remote PC when they are connected to the VPN. Here are the results... After the authenctication thru a VPN client I was able to connect the remote machine to the VPN. I tried to VNC the remote machine from the office but no luck. I tried to ping the IP (the local assigned dhcp ip under broadband connection in a wireless lan) of the remote machine connection but it says host unreachable. I was thinking it shouldnt be, coz once login they can check their mail from outlook fetching the mails in the exchange server in my office lan. so i did open outlook from the remote machine to check if can login to the exhange server, and it was. then i tried pinging the remote machine again (same ip - the local assigned dhcp ip under broadband connection in a wireless lan) from one pc in my office lan. VOILA! its pinging then i was thinking then that its more than possible that VNC should work. and it worked! i can now do VNC'ing when they are connected to the VPN! couple of things.. after logging in to the VPN client they have to initiate a connection first to the office lan like opening outlook first or accessing shared resources in the office lan. that way, their pc will be hooked up virtually present and identified inside the office lan and from that point I can take it from there to VNC their machine. In summary the VPN is using the local ip of the remote machine was using as its identity in our lan and not assigning a special ip address to the remote machine. Even if both ends are on the different subnet. (my office 10.54.X.X and remote machine 192.168.1.X). It seems to me that our VPN acts like a bridge to make communications pass at both ends. Many thanks. Angelo Sarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question I ment to ask was is each remote PC assigned a different IP. e.g. - PC1-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC2-Remote - 192.168.0.201 - PC3-Remote - 192.168.0.202 some vpns do this - PC1-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC2-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC3-Remote - 192.168.0.200 --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:05:13 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: do you mean VPN is assingning a different IP when communicating to the remote PC's? or its just the local internal ip is being used by the remote pc during the communication in VPN. Angelo Sarto wrote: So you would like to be able to control the remote computers when they are active in the vpn? this should be possible, but the remote computer will need to be running vncserver. You would have to have them install vnc server on each of the remote machines. In this case (if it is running as a service) you wouldn't even need a reverse connect, simply connect to them by there VPN IP. e.g. xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy ---|VPN|--(192.168.11.254)-- when someone logs in with a vpn server they are given an inside IP, i.e. an ip on the lan. If the remote computer is running vncserver then you should be able to connect to it's inside IP. The pitfalls you will need to avoid are: VPN Server and VPN Client Security settings-I believe in most VPN defaults all traffic is allowed in both directions. Client Firewall - e.g. windows XP service Pack2, software firewalls, some AV (hardware firewalls are usually being bypassed already via VPN) VPN's that do PAT - do your VPN clients share an IP? If you can give them each there own that would work a lot better. otherwise you would have to do some fancy tricks on the VPN. I'm not much of an expert on vpn, but I think this list will cover a lot of them. --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:07:19 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: Need some clarifications regarding VPN. Scenario: Assuming I am the one of the administrator of the local area network in our office. We have VPN setup in our office to make users connect to the internal network remotely when they are out of the office. With the VPN connection they can all access network resources in my office LAN remotely (shared files, printers, all resources which they are permitted using their access/permission rights, etc). My Question: When they are connected to the VPN, assuming I'm the Administrator of the LAN, is it possible to use the REMOTE COMPUTER resources connected to our VPN? It's like when the remote computer is connected and being virtually present
RE: New user..Can't Connect
Hi Bill, I am no expert however the next phase is to Port forward 5900 to a specific IP address i.e. the IP address of the VNC Server. If you have more than 1 pc on the network you could PING the one you want by name to find out its IP address. If you have static IP address then easy however you need to talk to SMC again re Port forwarding this was would be PORT FORWARD 5900 to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx assuming you have private network 192.168.xxx xxx I feel you are nearly there but my lack of expertise re routers doesn't help. John -- From: Bill @ PondExpo.com[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 1:49 AM To: Wall, John; 'Ron McKenzie' Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect Hi John Ron. Some progress but I'm not quite there yet...Talked to SMC, the manufacturer of the router. They showed me how to open port 5900 which we did. But this did not result in remote access!!...So then I removed the router and connected from the cable modem directly to the pc. This allowed remote access just fine. Obviously something within the router is keeping things from working. Any Ideas? I will also talk with SMC support again. They mentioned that once ports are opened, the problem can't be the router as it is merely a switch. Give me your feed back if you have time...Thanks...Bill - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ron McKenzie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bill @ PondExpo.com' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: RE: New user..Can't Connect Hi Bill, From reading past emails, as I do not have a router on my setups you may need to read your router manual regarding port forwarding. VNC has 3 main areas of Port use 5900 VNC Server/Viewer normal usage 5800 VNC Java i.e. via a browser NOTE: you still need 5900 open as the applet is returned on port 5900 5500 VNC in listening mode. Most likely you will not need that. From what I can ascertain from reading emails is on your router allow the above ports access from the outside world. Read your manual. then program Port Forwarding 5900 to local IP of pc aaa.bbb.ccc.:5900 usually 192.168.xxx.xxx for private networks. More than 1 pc on internal network you could use say 5901 for the second pc and 5902 for 3rd pc etc I think in the local pc you need to change the vncserver to relate to the display number 0 for 5900, 1 for 5901, 2 for 5902 etc... What IP to use from outside world, I am guessing your IP of your router as seen from the outside world so you would aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:5900 and when it hits your router the port forwarding was translate to 192.168.xxx.xxx:5900 and connect you to your pc nominated. This is my first attempt at assisting fellow VNCers but I am confident the above is reasonably correct however the syntax language maybe misleading. Hopefully you get an idea of what I am trying to say. John -- From: Bill @ PondExpo.com[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 November 2004 11:05 PM To: Wall, John; 'Ron McKenzie' Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect Hi John and Ron... I think we are getting close to the solution. When I am able to remote control, it works with two PC's on the same router. When I attempt from the laptop..(outside the network) to either network PC, then I don't even get the password box. There is no firewall on the laptop..but I bet the router is stopping the connection. Also noticed that when I try to get the IP address for the network PC's by using a web site IP identifier, The IP addresses are the same. What do you think? How can I try to fix? Many thanks...Bill - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ron McKenzie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill @ PondExpo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 9:37 PM Subject: RE: New user..Can't Connect Bill I thought more to the point do you need port forwarding as you are coming to your vnc server from the outside world ?? John -Original Message- From: Ron McKenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 November 2004 09:05 To: Bill @ PondExpo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect Bill, Do you have a firewall on your laptop? I know I had a problem (solved a day or two ago) where I forgot to enable VNC4 on my laptop's ZoneAlarm so I wasn't getting out of the laptop. Once I enabled VNCviewer 4 in ZA, I was golden. Ron On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:51:58 -0500, Bill @ PondExpo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried to connect from Viewer Desktop Windows XP home to VNC Desktop Windows XP home (cable modem for both) without a problem, but when I try from Laptop, Viewer Windows 98 SE, to Desktop
RE: New user..Can't Connect
Glad to hear it is a goer. Your next step is if you have multiple pcs past the router and you will most likely need to set the vnc server up with a different port like 5901 5902 5903 etc... and port forward them to the local ip address of the destination vnc server within your network. I am sure now you have one done you will be able to do any others. I have learnt a little out of the exercise myself so it benefits us all. John -Original Message- From: Bill @ PondExpo.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:17 To: Bill @ PondExpo.com; Wall, John; 'Ron McKenzie' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect CORRECTIONThe IP displayed when you hover over the server icon IS your local PC ip...Forward/open port 5900 and forward to this IP address. Then when you invoke the viewer, key in the IP address of your router. Sorry for confusion...Thanks again...Bill - Original Message - From: Bill @ PondExpo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ron McKenzie' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:09 PM Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect Hi again John. Well, it works!!..Here's what got it doneIf you are going through a router as I am, then the IP address that you see when you hover over the server icon in your tray is not your PC ip...it's your router IP. Get the ip in windows XP by going to run, cmd, and enter...then type in ipconfig and then enter againYou will see your local PC IP address. Open port 5900 and forward it's traffic to the local PC ip address that you got above. When you use viewer, key in the router's IP, not the PC ipThis is probably known by everyone but me...but it has taken many hours for us to get this right...and could not have done it without so much help...Thanks to allBill - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ron McKenzie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bill @ PondExpo.com' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: RE: New user..Can't Connect Hi Bill, I am no expert however the next phase is to Port forward 5900 to a specific IP address i.e. the IP address of the VNC Server. If you have more than 1 pc on the network you could PING the one you want by name to find out its IP address. If you have static IP address then easy however you need to talk to SMC again re Port forwarding this was would be PORT FORWARD 5900 to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx assuming you have private network 192.168.xxx xxx I feel you are nearly there but my lack of expertise re routers doesn't help. John -- From: Bill @ PondExpo.com[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2004 1:49 AM To: Wall, John; 'Ron McKenzie' Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect Hi John Ron. Some progress but I'm not quite there yet...Talked to SMC, the manufacturer of the router. They showed me how to open port 5900 which we did. But this did not result in remote access!!...So then I removed the router and connected from the cable modem directly to the pc. This allowed remote access just fine. Obviously something within the router is keeping things from working. Any Ideas? I will also talk with SMC support again. They mentioned that once ports are opened, the problem can't be the router as it is merely a switch. Give me your feed back if you have time...Thanks...Bill - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ron McKenzie' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bill @ PondExpo.com' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: RE: New user..Can't Connect Hi Bill, From reading past emails, as I do not have a router on my setups you may need to read your router manual regarding port forwarding. VNC has 3 main areas of Port use 5900 VNC Server/Viewer normal usage 5800 VNC Java i.e. via a browser NOTE: you still need 5900 open as the applet is returned on port 5900 5500 VNC in listening mode. Most likely you will not need that. From what I can ascertain from reading emails is on your router allow the above ports access from the outside world. Read your manual. then program Port Forwarding 5900 to local IP of pc aaa.bbb.ccc.:5900 usually 192.168.xxx.xxx for private networks. More than 1 pc on internal network you could use say 5901 for the second pc and 5902 for 3rd pc etc I think in the local pc you need to change the vncserver to relate to the display number 0 for 5900, 1 for 5901, 2 for 5902 etc... What IP to use from outside world, I am guessing your IP of your router as seen from the outside world so you would aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:5900 and when it hits your router the port forwarding was translate to 192.168.xxx.xxx:5900 and connect you to your pc nominated
RE: New user..Can't Connect
Bill I thought more to the point do you need port forwarding as you are coming to your vnc server from the outside world ?? John -Original Message- From: Ron McKenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 22 November 2004 09:05 To: Bill @ PondExpo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New user..Can't Connect Bill, Do you have a firewall on your laptop? I know I had a problem (solved a day or two ago) where I forgot to enable VNC4 on my laptop's ZoneAlarm so I wasn't getting out of the laptop. Once I enabled VNCviewer 4 in ZA, I was golden. Ron On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:51:58 -0500, Bill @ PondExpo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried to connect from Viewer Desktop Windows XP home to VNC Desktop Windows XP home (cable modem for both) without a problem, but when I try from Laptop, Viewer Windows 98 SE, to Desktop VNC Windows XP home, can't get to password screen. Can someone give me a place to check...Many Thanks. Bill ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... ( U pdate)
Hi All, My use of VNC V4 under Windows environment sometimes encounters a similar situation re case of entering data from VNC Viewer to Server. I have found in most instances the Server keyboard may inadvertantly be in Caps mode and the Viewer is in unshifted mode. There is little way of knowing if this is the case and all I do is put my caps key on the Viewer to get round logging onto distant Server. Just a piece of information. Wez in both your examples below the Hash key was displayed. I am sure you understand the country of origin's keyboard may display a different symbol however the ASCII key code would be equivalent. John -- From: James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 12:52 AM To: 'Andrew McCall'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U pdate) Andrew, Check that the system keyboard layout does not differ from the one you are setting when trying to log in to the system - if they differ for some reason then the VNC Server will translate incoming keys to local key events using the system-wide mapping and the logon app will then retranslate them to the wrong thing, in this case screwing up the # key (Hash, not UK pound, which is # :) ) Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McCall Sent: 18 November 2004 15:10 To: Andrew McCall; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U pdate) ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error you must delete it and notify the system manager (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). ** Hi Again, I have started to have a problem with VNC where I can make a connection to a Windows 2003 server via VNC and see the standard Windows 2003 log in screen, but I can't actually try to log in I get a standard Windows error The system could not log you on. Make sure your User name and domain are correct, then type your password again. Letters in passwords must be typed using the correct case. If I actually go to the console and use the same password, it lets me log in, and then I can go back to my VNC session (that has watched me actually log in!) and carry on... I have tried uninstalling VNC and re-installing it, but this didn't help. I have managed to work out that the # (UK pound) sign isn't working over VNC for some reason - every other key works, but this one! I don't know how to solve it, but I suppose I am one step closer! Thanks, Andrew McCall ** Get our Metrolink back on track!!! Write to your MP in support of the campaign - tell them how failing to get the Metrolink extension will affect your life, your business or the economy. You can also pledge your support by filling in an online form on the website of the Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive (GMPTE) at http://www.gmpte.com ** ** This note confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses, however we advise that in keeping with good IT practice the recipient should ensure that the e-mail together with any attachments are virus free by running a virus scan themselves. We cannot accept any responsibility for any damage or loss caused by software viruses. http://www.oldham.gov.uk ** ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... ( U pdate)
Thanks Wez I can handle the explanation as I am well into ascii character code being a QBASIC programmer. Your probably correct in saying some applications may reduce 8big to 7big notation and thus lose the significance of the character code. Regards, John -Original Message- From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 09:39 To: 'Wall, John'; 'Andrew McCall'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Able to connect, but unable to log in to Windows server... (U pdate) John, No, the keys do give different character codes, otherwise the characters produced wouldn't match the symbols, since UK keyboards have both hash and pound symbols on them. What you saw in my mail is basically, a 7-bit ASCII vs 8-bit ISO-8859-1 thing, I think. The pound sign is character 163 in ISO-8859-1 while the hash is ASCII code 35 - ASCII mailers will probably fudge one into the other to allow it to be displayed. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. I am sure you understand the country of origin's keyboard may display a different symbol however the ASCII key code would be equivalent. retranslate them to the wrong thing, in this case screwing up the # key (Hash, not UK pound, which is # :) ) ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: DOS
Hi Theo, For DOS mode and black screen use the key combination Alt - Enter to switch between DOS screen and DOS Window mode. John -- From: Theo Rooijakkers[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2004 7:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DOS After installing your program and after configering it, it works with my client in windows. But triing to open a DOS exe file, I get a black screen, while the program starts with my client. Is it possible to work also in Dos mode? Theo Rooijakkers Patersstraat 172b6 B-2300-Turnhout Belgium ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: what about audio ?
Hi YigalB Mainly because VNC is about an image of the distant pc only. Nothing to do with anything else but a screen dump of distant pc with cursor movements and keyboard strokes if set. John -Original Message- From: YigalB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 5 November 2004 15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: what about audio ? When I remote control other PC with VNC - I control the video part. Why can't I hear the audio of the remote PC ? ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How to track use of VNC
Hi John, I am using XP PRO, I go via the Control Panel select Administrative Tools, select Event Viewer, Select Applications and it appears there under as Event Viewer (local) and then and entry VNC double click it and the information is in it. I never set this computer up re Event Viewer so assume it is the default mode. Can't help further than explained above for my XP PRO laptop. It does display the incoming IP addressed when connecting and when disconnecting. John -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Regarding John Wall's reply about XP Event Log... Where in the Event Log? I just searched thru one of my common XP Pro machines which users connect to and there's nothing there I checked all three area carefully, Application, Security System. Do you mean some other .Log file someplace? --__--__-- Message: 21 From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:46:29 +0800 Hi Daniel, NT XP have an event log that records the IP address that accessed via VNC not sure about Win95 Win98 John ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How to track use of VNC
John, I am using RealVnc V4 however I would have thought it was up to the operating system i.e. XP/NT to determine if it will log an event rather than VNC triggering it. I don't know but logic would say the trigger would be the event operating system. Wez what do you say ?? John -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:26 To: Wall, John; 'John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Maybe it's because we're using TightVNC, maybe no Event Log entries are made are you using RealVNC? I haven't looked at TVNC vs RVNC in well over a year maybe I should look agin. At 09:04 AM 10/13/2004, Wall, John wrote: Hi John, I am using XP PRO, I go via the Control Panel select Administrative Tools, select Event Viewer, Select Applications and it appears there under as Event Viewer (local) and then and entry VNC double click it and the information is in it. I never set this computer up re Event Viewer so assume it is the default mode. Can't help further than explained above for my XP PRO laptop. It does display the incoming IP addressed when connecting and when disconnecting. John -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Regarding John Wall's reply about XP Event Log... Where in the Event Log? I just searched thru one of my common XP Pro machines which users connect to and there's nothing there I checked all three area carefully, Application, Security System. Do you mean some other .Log file someplace? --__--__-- Message: 21 From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:46:29 +0800 Hi Daniel, NT XP have an event log that records the IP address that accessed via VNC not sure about Win95 Win98 John ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How to track use of VNC
Hi John, Wez has remarked in another email re another subject that vnc v4 does do event logging so I guess that is the answer. Real VNC has been good to me and I am the only IT person in my particular field using it and my time is precious. I have been advised to use Tight VNC however the existing Real VNC has been all I have needed so far. I have been advised that Tight VNC can provide file transfers which Real VNC does not. Whether the Real VNC team are looking at this I am not sure. It doesn't particularly fuss me as I just use Windows Exploring to transfer files within our intranet. John Ps when time permits I may look at Tight VNC -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:46 To: Wall, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Writing to OS Event Logs is done at the application level. Most M$ programs do it by common design. All other applications, such as xVNC have to do it intentionally. Here's simple example code for any VB application: Dim appLog As New System.Diagnostics.EventLog appLog.Source = This Application's Name appLog.WriteEntry(An entry to the Application event log.) In your RVNC 4, there might be an options panel on server side with user settings for level (frequency) of event logging, or at least I would hope so. Have you also looked at TightVNC? Maybe offer up your comment of one vs the other? At 09:42 AM 10/13/2004, Wall, John wrote: John, I am using RealVnc V4 however I would have thought it was up to the operating system i.e. XP/NT to determine if it will log an event rather than VNC triggering it. I don't know but logic would say the trigger would be the event operating system. Wez what do you say ?? John -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:26 To: Wall, John; 'John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Maybe it's because we're using TightVNC, maybe no Event Log entries are made are you using RealVNC? I haven't looked at TVNC vs RVNC in well over a year maybe I should look agin. At 09:04 AM 10/13/2004, Wall, John wrote: Hi John, I am using XP PRO, I go via the Control Panel select Administrative Tools, select Event Viewer, Select Applications and it appears there under as Event Viewer (local) and then and entry VNC double click it and the information is in it. I never set this computer up re Event Viewer so assume it is the default mode. Can't help further than explained above for my XP PRO laptop. It does display the incoming IP addressed when connecting and when disconnecting. John -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Regarding John Wall's reply about XP Event Log... Where in the Event Log? I just searched thru one of my common XP Pro machines which users connect to and there's nothing there I checked all three area carefully, Application, Security System. Do you mean some other .Log file someplace? --__--__-- Message: 21 From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:46:29 +0800 Hi Daniel, NT XP have an event log that records the IP address that accessed via VNC not sure about Win95 Win98 John ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: How to track use of VNC
Thanks John, I'm learning fast. If you want to see what I am mainly hope to for my employer go to this link. http://agspsrv34.agric.wa.gov.au/climate/livedata/sumpages.htm I work for the Department of Agriculture Western Australia The data is up on our external website within 6 minutes of it occurring in the paddock. I provide upto the minute weather statistics near real time from paddock to website within a few minutes of it happening. All of our pc are Windows 95 (doesn't suffer resource leakages that Windows 98 does) and using DOS with QBASIC V4.5 as our processing power. The QBASIC programme writes the HTML code for our webpages. These are transferred using SecondCopy as a file transfer programme. Works great. I am located in Merredin Western Australia. Regards, John -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 22:00 To: Wall, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to track use of VNC I was not aware that RVNC does not do File Transfers. We use TVNC for traveling user's remote access back to their desktops, therefore FT is important, which TVNC does fairly well. (Only minor annoyance with TVNC FT is can't see remote PC's Network Shares, unless specifically mapped as Drive letters.) Thanks for your quick comment on RVNC vs TVNC. FT alone is a breaker for us. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Screen Size of Viewed Application
Hi Leonard, I access DOS QBASIC applications all the time. If the desktop of the Server is running standard i.e. 600 x 480 (whatever smallest) then the viewer will see the whole DOS screen. If the desktop is larger than standard size then the DOS application will become smaller proportionately to the increase of the desktop ie. 1024 x ???/ = small DOS windows on large desktop John -Original Message- From: Leonard Adler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 06:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: Screen Size of Viewed Application -Original Message- From: Leonard Adler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Screen Size of Viewed Application I am accessing a remote desktop with the RealVNC viewer. The server is in Service mode. When selected, the application I want to run appears in a window occupying approximately one-half of the screen. Nothing happens if I hit maximize. Is there a way to increase the window size? The application is a so-called DOS program. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: The arrows and that start flashing/flickering....
I experience flashing icons when accessing W2K server running VNC V4 Server. I just put up with it. John -Original Message- From: Dy Ceast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 06:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The arrows and that start flashing/flickering Hi there Ive just installed VNC 4.0 on two computerz... One of the computers have the full installtion and acts as the server... And on the other Just has the VNC Viewer... Now I noticed when I log in from the viewer machine, the server machine starts flickering... Like the arrow starts flashin.. Then I also minimised the window on the viewer machine to work on normal stuff and I noticed the server machine stops flickering... Is there anyway I can stop the flickering forever.. So when Im looking on the viewer the the server one Just looks normal...stops flickering/flashing Thanx... Bye... _ Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra JetStream @ http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: local host vs local address
My statement referred mainly to starting up a Windows platform with no network connected i.e. a dial up situation. VNC SERVER is installed as a service on startup and thus will not work until you STOP/START the service once connecting to the network. John -- From: James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 5:49 PM To: 'Wall, John'; 'Ward, Stuart'; 'VNC List'; 'Chris Goodwin' Subject: RE: local host vs local address John at al, The notion of VNC binding to a particular _interface_ is bogus. When accepting incoming connections, services bind to a particular host _IP address_. Like most other services, VNC binds to INADDR_NONE, which means it accepts connections via all the host's addresses. If your TCP/IP stack is working correctly then this will allow the server to accept connections on any valid IP address for the host, regardless of when they were added to it. The _only_ situation in which VNC Server binds to a specific address is when accepting connections only from localhost. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wall, John Sent: 24 September 2004 00:19 To: Ward, Stuart; VNC List; 'Chris Goodwin' Subject: RE: local host vs local address Hi Stuart, My experiences with VNC Server re binding are mainly to do with using VNC as a service on a dial up connexion. The binding occurs before you are connected thus you only have your Network Interface Card default IP. Once connected I usually have to Stop Start the VNC service to rebind. John -- From: Chris Goodwin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: Chris Goodwin Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 1:18 AM To: Ward, Stuart; VNC List Subject: Re: local host vs local address Thanks, Stuart, this particular station is still @ SP1, fully patched. One note: If I do not register VNC Server as a service during install, but trigger the manual mode from a shortcut in the Startup folder, it binds to the correct IP every time. I can only assume that some other program prevents it from doing so at boot. I appreciate any input - thanks for your response, Stuart! Chris Goodwin Sandware Business Systems We manage technology so you can manage your business. http://www.sandware.net voice: 910.639.3055 - Original Message - From: Ward, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: VNC List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: RE: local host vs local address This may be related to SP2 issue that a recent fix has been put out for by MS. Stu -Original Message- From: Chris Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:01 PM To: VNC List Subject: local host vs local address I have the same issue as the gentleman below. I have WinVNC4 running as a service on a XP Home machine. It is behind a Linksys wireless router, so the appropriate ports are forwarded to the machine's IP. My issue has been that intermittently, WinVNC binds to 127.0.0.1, then other times binds appropriately to 192.168.1.150. I have successfully accessed the machine to perform maintenance, etc., previously, but today WinVNC bound to the localhost address, leaving me unable to access it. To reiterate, the installation works intermittently, but it has worked. - not set to loopback only - wireless LAN connection working normally - the machine has been running all day, and I get a connection refused, so it's not the IP display update issue Any other ideas on what would make WinVNC bind to the localhost? Thanks! Chris Goodwin Max, VNC Server binds to network interfaces in one of two ways. Either: - It binds to all network interfaces (INADDR_ANY), or - It binds only to the local loopback interface (127.0.0.1) If your tray icon says that it has bound to 127.0.0.1 then one of three things has happened: - Your machine only has local loopback no network interface is available - You have explicitly configured VNC Server to only listen for local loopback connections - VNC Server is actually listening on INADDR_ANY, but the tray icon contents are out of date and reflect a point in time before the network interfaces had come up. This tray icon behaviour is a known bug. It could cause a Service-Mode server to show Not accepting connections or 127.0.0.1 in some cases. I assume that you've tried connecting to the server in spite of the tray icon's contents and established that it's not accepting connections? Cheers
RE: local host vs local address
Hi Stuart, My experiences with VNC Server re binding are mainly to do with using VNC as a service on a dial up connexion. The binding occurs before you are connected thus you only have your Network Interface Card default IP. Once connected I usually have to Stop Start the VNC service to rebind. John -- From: Chris Goodwin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: Chris Goodwin Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 1:18 AM To: Ward, Stuart; VNC List Subject: Re: local host vs local address Thanks, Stuart, this particular station is still @ SP1, fully patched. One note: If I do not register VNC Server as a service during install, but trigger the manual mode from a shortcut in the Startup folder, it binds to the correct IP every time. I can only assume that some other program prevents it from doing so at boot. I appreciate any input - thanks for your response, Stuart! Chris Goodwin Sandware Business Systems We manage technology so you can manage your business. http://www.sandware.net voice: 910.639.3055 - Original Message - From: Ward, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: VNC List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: RE: local host vs local address This may be related to SP2 issue that a recent fix has been put out for by MS. Stu -Original Message- From: Chris Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:01 PM To: VNC List Subject: local host vs local address I have the same issue as the gentleman below. I have WinVNC4 running as a service on a XP Home machine. It is behind a Linksys wireless router, so the appropriate ports are forwarded to the machine's IP. My issue has been that intermittently, WinVNC binds to 127.0.0.1, then other times binds appropriately to 192.168.1.150. I have successfully accessed the machine to perform maintenance, etc., previously, but today WinVNC bound to the localhost address, leaving me unable to access it. To reiterate, the installation works intermittently, but it has worked. - not set to loopback only - wireless LAN connection working normally - the machine has been running all day, and I get a connection refused, so it's not the IP display update issue Any other ideas on what would make WinVNC bind to the localhost? Thanks! Chris Goodwin Max, VNC Server binds to network interfaces in one of two ways. Either: - It binds to all network interfaces (INADDR_ANY), or - It binds only to the local loopback interface (127.0.0.1) If your tray icon says that it has bound to 127.0.0.1 then one of three things has happened: - Your machine only has local loopback no network interface is available - You have explicitly configured VNC Server to only listen for local loopback connections - VNC Server is actually listening on INADDR_ANY, but the tray icon contents are out of date and reflect a point in time before the network interfaces had come up. This tray icon behaviour is a known bug. It could cause a Service-Mode server to show Not accepting connections or 127.0.0.1 in some cases. I assume that you've tried connecting to the server in spite of the tray icon's contents and established that it's not accepting connections? Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. In the tray, on the server icon, I can read the IP that is being used. so when run as a service it says 127.0.0.1 and my PC cannot be reached remotly. and when I launch server manually it reads 192.168.0.100 and RealVNC works fine. I like to use it as a service, as I never know in advance when I need to reach my machine ... -Message d'origine- De : James Weatherall [mailto:jnw at realvnc.com] Envoyi : lundi 13 septembre 2004 12:59 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Objet : RE: local host vs local address, Max, What precisely do you mean by takes 127.0.0.1 and takes 192.168.0.100? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: Big Max Leo [mailto:bigmax at bigmax.org] Sent: 13 September 2004 11:50 To: 'James Weatherall'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Subject: RE : local host vs local address, It takes the right IP (192.168.0.100 for instance), which is one of the address I reserved in the routeur config to assign to one specific machine (associated with MAC address). Real VNC takes 127.0.0.1 when I run it as a service, and takes 192.168.0.100 when I launch it manually :-) -Message d'origine- De : James Weatherall [mailto:jnw at realvnc.com] Envoyi : lundi 13 septembre 2004 12:45 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Objet : RE: local host vs local address, Max, Can you explain precisely what you mean by takes the right IP? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message-
RE: local host vs local address
Max, Could it be possible the Wireless LAN is intermittantly going offline/online just a thought as if it was then you have an intermittant network problem ?? John -- From: Ward, Stuart[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 September 2004 1:01 AM To: VNC List Subject: RE: local host vs local address This may be related to SP2 issue that a recent fix has been put out for by MS. Stu -Original Message- From: Chris Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:01 PM To: VNC List Subject: local host vs local address I have the same issue as the gentleman below. I have WinVNC4 running as a service on a XP Home machine. It is behind a Linksys wireless router, so the appropriate ports are forwarded to the machine's IP. My issue has been that intermittently, WinVNC binds to 127.0.0.1, then other times binds appropriately to 192.168.1.150. I have successfully accessed the machine to perform maintenance, etc., previously, but today WinVNC bound to the localhost address, leaving me unable to access it. To reiterate, the installation works intermittently, but it has worked. - not set to loopback only - wireless LAN connection working normally - the machine has been running all day, and I get a connection refused, so it's not the IP display update issue Any other ideas on what would make WinVNC bind to the localhost? Thanks! Chris Goodwin Max, VNC Server binds to network interfaces in one of two ways. Either: - It binds to all network interfaces (INADDR_ANY), or - It binds only to the local loopback interface (127.0.0.1) If your tray icon says that it has bound to 127.0.0.1 then one of three things has happened: - Your machine only has local loopback no network interface is available - You have explicitly configured VNC Server to only listen for local loopback connections - VNC Server is actually listening on INADDR_ANY, but the tray icon contents are out of date and reflect a point in time before the network interfaces had come up. This tray icon behaviour is a known bug. It could cause a Service-Mode server to show Not accepting connections or 127.0.0.1 in some cases. I assume that you've tried connecting to the server in spite of the tray icon's contents and established that it's not accepting connections? Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. In the tray, on the server icon, I can read the IP that is being used. so when run as a service it says 127.0.0.1 and my PC cannot be reached remotly. and when I launch server manually it reads 192.168.0.100 and RealVNC works fine. I like to use it as a service, as I never know in advance when I need to reach my machine ... -Message d'origine- De : James Weatherall [mailto:jnw at realvnc.com] Envoyi : lundi 13 septembre 2004 12:59 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Objet : RE: local host vs local address, Max, What precisely do you mean by takes 127.0.0.1 and takes 192.168.0.100? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: Big Max Leo [mailto:bigmax at bigmax.org] Sent: 13 September 2004 11:50 To: 'James Weatherall'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Subject: RE : local host vs local address, It takes the right IP (192.168.0.100 for instance), which is one of the address I reserved in the routeur config to assign to one specific machine (associated with MAC address). Real VNC takes 127.0.0.1 when I run it as a service, and takes 192.168.0.100 when I launch it manually :-) -Message d'origine- De : James Weatherall [mailto:jnw at realvnc.com] Envoyi : lundi 13 septembre 2004 12:45 @ : 'Big Max Leo'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Objet : RE: local host vs local address, Max, Can you explain precisely what you mean by takes the right IP? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: Big Max Leo [mailto:bigmax at bigmax.org] Sent: 13 September 2004 11:32 To: 'James Weatherall'; vnc-list at realvnc.com Subject: RE : local host vs local address, Yes, I have checked. I just installed another free VNC product and I don't run in the pb : it takes the right IP no matter how you start the server (manually or as a service) as opposed to RealVNC that only takes the right IP if I start the server manually for some unknown reason. The problem started after the WIFI router installation, I had to configure the router to differentiate my 3 machines to make sure I would access the right one remotly. I use the router as DHCP server and reserve 3 specifics address in the range for my 3 machines, (to get the same IP every time) then I use port forwarding to reach on the right port with VNC (I give each of the 3 VNC servers a specific port number) Thank you -Message d'origine- De :
RE: RE: 1st time user
Thanks Alan for your comments. As stated I've not used anything other than VNC and it has served me well. As I have outline for the small amount of file transfers I need I use network neighbourhood either directly from my pc or from the VNC'd end. Of course what is unique I guess is I work for a reasonably large Government Department and thus my VNCing is mainly on our side of the firewall, although do use VNC via VPN when on the otherside and no problems. John -- From: Alan Watchorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 1:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: 1st time user Hi, Just my 10 cents on TightVNC. I used it before I used RealVNC and it appeared to have problems rendering some graphics (I used it to remotely monitor a Fax system) so I switched to RealVNC and have had no problems. Not having file transfer may be a drawback but not as much as something which is not reliable for basic functions. Alan Watchorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] (760) 692-4300 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roberto F. Sacramento Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:35 PM To: Wall, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Tom Wright' Subject: Re: RE: 1st time user http://tightvnc.com/ - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Tom Wright' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: 1st time user I keep hearing about TightVNC, I'll do a Google search although VNC has been a very good product for us so far. One question though, our weather station pcs are all Windows95 based. Is TightVNC okay for this platform ? John -- From: Tom Wright[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:10 PM To: 'Wall, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' Subject: RE: 1st time user This will not work if you are trying to copy files from, say your home computer to your work computer. TightVNC has a file transfer built into it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wall, John Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' Subject: RE: 1st time user Hi, This might sound too simple however I do it all the time, I use Network Neighbourhood from the distant VNC computer and copy the files back to my computer and vice versa. I guess okay for small files etc... Using XP of course you need to have the receiving computer i.e. the VncViewer needs to have permission to receive files from the VncServer. John -- From: Roberto F. Sacramento[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1st time user Folks, Simple question: I connect to the other computer OK. What do I do in order to transfer files between the 2 computers? I use Windows XP on both computers. By the way, my understanding of computers is very small, so if there is a simple answer, OK. If not, I'm going to really need help. Roberto [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of conjunto-6.gif] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: RE: 1st time user
Hi Roberto, Lots of questions when you first start out. The use of Network Neighbourhood will depend on how the interconnexion between the two computers occurs, although you say you connect to the other pc okay so lets assume you have no problems seeing each computer from either end using VNC. If I were you I would run VNC Server on both computers either as a startup service (Service Mode) or manually start a server (User Mode). This may depend on how you interconnect as to which way to go, meaning if you are using a dial up Internet Service Provider then not much use starting a server when you fire up your computer as the allocated IP address will not be the ISP's allocated IP address. So the Server at each end is then able to be Viewed by using the Viewer at the other end and specifying the IP address of the other end or you can try using the pc's INDENTIFICATION name if you can see the other computer. My reference to using NETWORK NEIGHBOURHOOD is a simple one. Example the distant pc has some files you would like to transfer. So via the Viewer you connect to distant server's pc and open Network Neighbourhood (I usually right click the start button and select Explore(r)) this will give you the environment to transfer files from the distant pc to your pc providing you can see you pcs name in the list of computer in Network Neighbourhood (My Network Places (in XP)). When you installed VNC you should have selected to install both the server and viewer and hopefully selected to provide an icon on your desktop for the viewer if not you should be able to see both viewer/server by Start/Programs/RealVNC/etc So the distant pc will have the server running and this can be running on both the distant pc and your pc meaning should you be at the distant pc then your server should be running at the other end. Best to run the server once you know you have connected to the network either via Ethernet/dial up/or whatever. If firewall(s) are in between then it might become more complicated to get things working the way you would like them. Your question 1 there is no area re permission for file transfers. You can do a file transfer using Network Neighbourhood (Explorer/Exploring or My Network Places depending on your Windows operating system). Your question 2 while using your viewer to view the distant server Right Click Start select Explore then click on Network Neighbourhood (My Network Places) etc... and see if you can see your other computer if you can then you can transfer files from distant server to viewer pc. However on saying that you need to ensure Sharing of Drive and/or folders is in place at the viewer pc otherwise you cannot transfer files. This is best done by sharing drive/folders with a password so when you attempt to transfer a file from server to viewer pc it will prompt you for a password before transfer of file can take place. (Only need to do this once for each drive/folder). Mapping a drive is similar situation as above namely If you can see your distant pc/hard drive/folder(s) and the are available for sharing then you can use Network Neighbourhood/Explore(ing) to map a drive from the tools options on the server pc. Long winded but hopefully of benefit to you. John -Original Message- From: Roberto F. Sacramento [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:16 To: Wall, John Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: 1st time user John, As I said, I'm not that good with computers, so what I did was install server and viewer on both computers. This way I don't have to bother which way is on. Right or wrong? 1- where do I look to find out if the VncViewer has or not permission to receive files from the VncServer. 2- I4m not sure I got your idea on using Network Neighbourhood from the other computer. How do you do it? How do you see the local computer? How do you map it? - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:46 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: 1st time user Hi, This might sound too simple however I do it all the time, I use Network Neighbourhood from the distant VNC computer and copy the files back to my computer and vice versa. I guess okay for small files etc... Using XP of course you need to have the receiving computer i.e. the VncViewer needs to have permission to receive files from the VncServer. John -- From: Roberto F. Sacramento[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1st time user Folks, Simple question: I connect to the other computer OK. What do I do in order to transfer files between the 2 computers? I use Windows XP on both computers. By the way, my understanding of computers is very small, so if there is a simple answer, OK. If not, I'm going to really need help. Roberto [demime 0.99d.1 removed
RE: RE: 1st time user
Thanks Roberto been to the site and looks interesting. John -- From: Roberto F. Sacramento[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 8:35 AM To: Wall, John; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Tom Wright' Subject: Re: RE: 1st time user http://tightvnc.com/ - Original Message - From: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Tom Wright' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: 1st time user I keep hearing about TightVNC, I'll do a Google search although VNC has been a very good product for us so far. One question though, our weather station pcs are all Windows95 based. Is TightVNC okay for this platform ? John -- From: Tom Wright[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:10 PM To: 'Wall, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' Subject: RE: 1st time user This will not work if you are trying to copy files from, say your home computer to your work computer. TightVNC has a file transfer built into it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wall, John Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Roberto F. Sacramento' Subject: RE: 1st time user Hi, This might sound too simple however I do it all the time, I use Network Neighbourhood from the distant VNC computer and copy the files back to my computer and vice versa. I guess okay for small files etc... Using XP of course you need to have the receiving computer i.e. the VncViewer needs to have permission to receive files from the VncServer. John -- From: Roberto F. Sacramento[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1st time user Folks, Simple question: I connect to the other computer OK. What do I do in order to transfer files between the 2 computers? I use Windows XP on both computers. By the way, my understanding of computers is very small, so if there is a simple answer, OK. If not, I'm going to really need help. Roberto [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of conjunto-6.gif] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC through VPN
Hi, I use DOS on my remote pcs and YES a very good point TRY ALT Enter if a black screen as this is the symptom of a DOS programme running in full screen mode when you access via VNC. Possibly always worth a try on a black screen to use Alt Enter. John -- From: Michael Reitz[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC through VPN | [...] | | Hmm.. The system doesn't have any wallpaper. (just a black background) | Generally, the POS software is open and cannot be minimized by the user | without an administrative password. | Just a guess, but is this POS software running in a full-screen DOS window? You should be able to switch into DOS window mode with Alt+Enter. Michael ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: 1st time user
Hi, This might sound too simple however I do it all the time, I use Network Neighbourhood from the distant VNC computer and copy the files back to my computer and vice versa. I guess okay for small files etc... Using XP of course you need to have the receiving computer i.e. the VncViewer needs to have permission to receive files from the VncServer. John -- From: Roberto F. Sacramento[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1st time user Folks, Simple question: I connect to the other computer OK. What do I do in order to transfer files between the 2 computers? I use Windows XP on both computers. By the way, my understanding of computers is very small, so if there is a simple answer, OK. If not, I'm going to really need help. Roberto [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of conjunto-6.gif] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC on Port 80
Hi James, Have you missed the clue HOST::80 Double Colon as mentioned below. John -- From: James Walker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: James Walker Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2004 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC on Port 80 the server is set to port 80 and the viewer set to port 8080 as i know these are the ports that go out to the net ihave tried verious ways to get it to work but no do On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 14:38:45 -0700, DILATED_ONE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On your viewer what are you setting it to?? Remember you would need to set the server to port 80 and the viewer to -5820. 80 minus 5900 . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Walker Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VNC on Port 80 Hi, I cant get vnc to work on this port at all i set up my firewall on router right but it still will not work i know that the port is usually used for Internet explorer and wish to use this port as i am at college and do not allow the other default ports to go out any help much appreaciated ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC V4 - VIEWER - Control/Break
Thanks WEZ at least I now know VNC is okay but Microsoft 95/98/ME is not okay. Thanks again for all the help you have given to me over the past in getting VNC V4 Beta to work with Windows 95. For other members please note to use VNC V4 under Windows 95/98 your best to be running Internet Explorer V5.5 if you wish to use the Javascript access. NOTE: Windows95 cannot run Internet Explorer V6 or later. Pretty hard to get IE5.5 however if you need a copy just email me as I retrieved a good working copy and have it on file. I guess I need to look at DOS under XP as our replacement for the future. I know already I can run our DOS programme under XP so just do the fine tuning. Regards John -- From: James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 8:10 PM To: 'Wall, John' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VNC V4 - VIEWER - Control/Break John, Please remember to Reply-To-All when replying to list messages. The problem you are seeing is caused by using a DOS based program under Windows 95/98/Me at the VNC Server end. In spite of Microsoft's documentation which makes a statement to the contrary, when key events are generated by VNC Server, they must include the key scancode in order for DOS applications to see the keyboard input. VNC Server correctly generates scancodes for keyboard input it generates, but unfortunately the system call it uses to do this returns the wrong data under Windows 95/98/Me when Ctrl-Break is pressed, so no scancode is generated. If you run your DOS apps under NT/2K/XP etc then things will work as expected. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. Hi Wez, Our platforms are Windows 95 C Distant end is running RealVnc V4 Server with a DOS Window running QBASIC V4.5 Software I am accessing the RealVnc V4 Server with RealVnc V4 Viewer (not sure you can use a server to server combination) Cannot interrupt the distant DOS/QBASIC V4.5 programme that is running using any of the combinations below. I am wondering if you tick the Ctrl in F8 and only press the break key is this not a PAUSE just a thought but really instructions don't say whether to press the Ctrl key after ticking in F8 menu or not but have tried both ways to no avail. Regards. John -- From: James Weatherall[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 7 September 2004 8:52 PM To: 'Wall, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VNC V4 - VIEWER - Control/Break John, Are you using VNC Viewer 4 for Windows or VNC Viewer 4 for Java to access your servers? Which platforms are your servers running? Which platforms are your viewers running? Ctrl+Break verifiably works (by just pressing Ctrl+break in the Ctrl+viewer) when viewing a Windows NT 4 box from another Windows machine, using VNC Viewer 4 for Windows VNC Server 4. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. Hi to all, Using VNC V4 Viewer to access VNC V4 Server and trying to interrupt a QBASIC programme that is running using the combination Control/Break. Have tried all the combinations Control key down, press break key Select Ctrl from F8 menu and pressing break key Select Ctrl from F8 menu and pressing Control key + break key Have had no success in terminating the distant DOS/QBASIC programme running using above combinations. Have tried platforms: Windows95, Windows98 XP Must admit have not tried performing from Server to a Viewer. In our operation we have Servers running and use Viewers to access them. Any assistance would be helpful. I find the instructions re use of F8 Ctrl selection doesn't really explain whether you also need to press Ctrl key or not. Regards John Wall Network Monitoring Software Support Climate Group Department of Agriculture Western Australia ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC V4 - VIEWER - Control/Break
Hi to all, Using VNC V4 Viewer to access VNC V4 Server and trying to interrupt a QBASIC programme that is running using the combination Control/Break. Have tried all the combinations Control key down, press break key Select Ctrl from F8 menu and pressing break key Select Ctrl from F8 menu and pressing Control key + break key Have had no success in terminating the distant DOS/QBASIC programme running using above combinations. Have tried platforms: Windows95, Windows98 XP Must admit have not tried performing from Server to a Viewer. In our operation we have Servers running and use Viewers to access them. Any assistance would be helpful. I find the instructions re use of F8 Ctrl selection doesn't really explain whether you also need to press Ctrl key or not. Regards John Wall Network Monitoring Software Support Climate Group Department of Agriculture Western Australia ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: server closed connection unexpectedly
Hi Alan, I have not installed SP2 on XP platform although I did once install the beta version and immediately uninstalled it because nothing worked afterwards. My understanding of SP2 XP is that is closes off all ports thus VNC I assume is stumped. I have not reinstalled SP2 XP but our employer is eager to start the procedure and I am concerned about VNC with this installation. As yet haven't read up on what to do but I have read that SP2 XP installs a firewall with all ports closed off. So it is possible you need to look at the need to open port 5900 VNC and 5800 Javascript VNC via a browser. Just a thought but I would be interested from fellow users of VNC as I myself will need to know how to open these ports once SP2 XP has been installed. Regards. John -- From: Alan Watchorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2004 12:39 AM To: VNC List Subject: RE: server closed connection unexpectedly I use VNC 4.0 on WinXP, Win2000 and Win98 and I have not had any problems. I installed for the first time using VNC 4.0 and have not had any experience with earlier versions or upgrades. Have you tried uninstalling the old version and installing the new version from scratch? Alan Watchorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] (760) 692-4300 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: server closed connection unexpectedly Today i updated form vnc 3.3 to 4.0... since i'm using 4.0, on XP (pro and home whith SP2), i always get the message: server closed connection unexpectedly if i try to connect to the server. At the application log i found many errors: SocketManager: unknown network event for listener. There is no firewall on this machines, also the XP firewall is inactive. Im really frustrated about this... all previous versions worked fine whithout of problems! ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
