Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-02 Thread Opie
Hello,
 
Seak, Teng-Fong said:
 I'd like to know how to specify a HTTP port not different by 100 than the
 native port.  This can be put in FAQ too.

AS William Said  - TightVNC lets you specify them separately also.
 
And thats the VNC program I am using it has some nice features that Real Vnc does not 
have - Eg. The port setting to accept connections..
 
Have a good one
 
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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-02 Thread William Hooper
Seak, Teng-Fong said:
>> I have the "native viewer" set to port 443
>>
>> & the webinterface via port 80
>
>   I'd like to know how to specify a HTTP port not different by 100 than the
> native port.  This can be put in FAQ too.

The Unix Xvnc has a command line switch for it.  IIRC you have to upgrade
to RealVNC4 to do it with WinVNC.  TightVNC lets you specify them
separately also.

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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-02 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
> I have the "native viewer" set to port 443
> 
> & the webinterface via port 80

I'd like to know how to specify a HTTP port not different by 100 than the 
native port.  This can be put in FAQ too.

> ONE last question - When I put the router back in ( a diffrent one than the Netgear 
> RP614 -
> which cant port foward ) will I still have to port forward port 443 and or 80 to the 
> computer
> with VNC on it as I will have 2 PC's but only one will have the VNC Server ??

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Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-02 Thread Opie
YES !
 
Thanks so much for all of your help 
 
I got it to work today from my "Work" PC to my "Home" PC
 
The help from both of you was must instructfull and understanding - Of my newbieness
 
Thanks So much !!!
 
I have the "native viewer" set to port 443 
 
& the webinterface via port 80
 
Per your suggestions
 
 
>You might give the following a try:set your home vncserver to respond to port 443 
>(this is the standard https port). The firewall (if it does pakect checking on 
>protocols, 
cannot/will not be able to deny this because https is encrypted, hence cannot be
filtered (if your workstation is not denied https).
You would then use the generic viewer to connect to 
YOUR.IP.AT.HOME::443
Cheers,
Dietmar
 
You could change your port number to less than 5900, eg port 80 as a lot of people 
had requested it.
Seak, Teng-Fong 
 
Thanks SO Much !!
 
You Guys Rock !!
 
ONE last question - When I put the router back in ( a diffrent one than the Netgear 
RP614 - which cant port foward ) will I still have to port forward port 443 and or 80 
to the computer with VNC on it as I will have 2 PC's but only one will have the VNC 
Server ??
 
NO longer lost - I've found my way "Home" !!
 
Thanks Again,
 
Opie



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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-02 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
"native viewer" is opposite to Java viewer.  For ex, vncviewer.exe is the 
native viewer for Windows platforms, while vncviewer is that for Unix.

Besides that Java viewer needs JVM to run, it also needs two ports (usually 
5800 & 5900): one to get this viewer through HTTP and one for VNC's proper usage.

As to "net" command: in command prompt window, you type in
net stop winvnc
and
net start winvnc

to stop and start VNC server service.  You could put them in two batch files so that 
you just need to double click to execute the commands.

For more information, please read the FAQ and manual in the website.  VNC doc 
is actually quite small in volume.

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : mercredi 2 juin 2004 03:28
> @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> OK
> 
> What is a native viewer
> 
> >>> Note also that you have to use native viewer.
> 
> And
> 
> >>> You're using VNC4 server.  You could use "net" command to start/stop VNC server
> service.
> 
> 
> I dont understand that
> 
> Sorry for the newbieness of the questions ButThats how ya learn things
> 
> Opie
> 
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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-02 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
In command prompt window, you type in
net stop winvnc
and
net start winvnc

to stop and start VNC server service.  You could put them in two batch files so that 
you just need to double click to execute the commands.

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Arthur Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 19:50
> @ : Seak, Teng-Fong
> Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> How do you use net command?  TIA - Arthur
> - Original Message -
> From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:59 PM
> Subject: RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> 
> > You're using VNC4 server.  You could use "net" command to start/stop VNC
> server service.
> >
> > > -Message d'origine-
> > > De : Arthur Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 18:56
> > > @ : Seak, Teng-Fong
> > > Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> > >
> > > Thanks for your quick reponse.  Attached is a .gif image which shows you
> my
> > > problem.
> > > Thanks - Arthur
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:45 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> > >
> > >
> > > > You could change your port number to less than 5900, eg port 80 as a
> lot
> > > of people had requested it.  You need to create the "PortNumber" in the
> > > registry as stated in the DOC.  Take a look here:
> > > > http://www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html#11
> > > >
> > > > Note also that you have to use native viewer.
> > > >
> > > > > -Message d'origine-
> > > > > De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 15:13
> > > > > @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Objet : Re:Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I found this about that - - -
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> Is your company's firewall restricts or filter access to
> Internet?
> > > OTOH, is your
> > > > > firewall a stateful one?  I don't know what "stateful" really means,
> but
> > > this word pops up
> > > > > several times to me concerning outgoing connections.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is a "Stateful Firewall"
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.cyberguard.com/snapgear/faqomatic/public_html/fom-serve/cache/31.html
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems that my work server ( I called the IT Guys ) blocks all
> ports
> > > and is basicly shut
> > > > > down to almost all traffic, high security, firewall, port blocking
> and
> > > all - so it looks like I
> > > > > wont be able to connect to my PC at home due to this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the viewer decide the port to have a outgoing connection or the
> > > server ??
> > > > >
> > > > > If so is there a port I can have the home PC server on instead of
> 5900 &
> > > 5800 ??
> > > > >
> > > > > Port 80 - the internet port I think .  ? or any other ??
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all the help so far !!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Opie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-01 Thread Opie
OK
 
What is a native viewer
 
>>> Note also that you have to use native viewer.
 
And

>>> You're using VNC4 server.  You could use "net" command to start/stop VNC server 
>>> service.

 
I dont understand that 
 
Sorry for the newbieness of the questions ButThats how ya learn things
 
Opie


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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-01 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
You're using VNC4 server.  You could use "net" command to start/stop VNC 
server service.

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Arthur Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 18:56
> @ : Seak, Teng-Fong
> Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> Thanks for your quick reponse.  Attached is a .gif image which shows you my
> problem.
> Thanks - Arthur
> - Original Message -
> From: "Seak, Teng-Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:45 AM
> Subject: RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> 
> > You could change your port number to less than 5900, eg port 80 as a lot
> of people had requested it.  You need to create the "PortNumber" in the
> registry as stated in the DOC.  Take a look here:
> > http://www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html#11
> >
> > Note also that you have to use native viewer.
> >
> > > -Message d'origine-
> > > De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 15:13
> > > @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Objet : Re:Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I found this about that - - -
> > >
> > > >>>> Is your company's firewall restricts or filter access to Internet?
> OTOH, is your
> > > firewall a stateful one?  I don't know what "stateful" really means, but
> this word pops up
> > > several times to me concerning outgoing connections.
> > >
> > > What is a "Stateful Firewall"
> > >
> http://www.cyberguard.com/snapgear/faqomatic/public_html/fom-serve/cache/31.html
> > >
> > > It seems that my work server ( I called the IT Guys ) blocks all ports
> and is basicly shut
> > > down to almost all traffic, high security, firewall, port blocking and
> all - so it looks like I
> > > wont be able to connect to my PC at home due to this.
> > >
> > > Does the viewer decide the port to have a outgoing connection or the
> server ??
> > >
> > > If so is there a port I can have the home PC server on instead of 5900 &
> 5800 ??
> > >
> > > Port 80 - the internet port I think .  ? or any other ??
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the help so far !!!
> > >
> > > Opie
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-01 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
You could change your port number to less than 5900, eg port 80 as a lot of 
people had requested it.  You need to create the "PortNumber" in the registry as 
stated in the DOC.  Take a look here:
http://www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html#11

Note also that you have to use native viewer.

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : mardi 1 juin 2004 15:13
> @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re:Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I found this about that - - -
> 
>  Is your company's firewall restricts or filter access to Internet?  OTOH, is 
>  your
> firewall a stateful one?  I don't know what "stateful" really means, but this word 
> pops up
> several times to me concerning outgoing connections.
> 
> What is a "Stateful Firewall"
> http://www.cyberguard.com/snapgear/faqomatic/public_html/fom-serve/cache/31.html
> 
> It seems that my work server ( I called the IT Guys ) blocks all ports and is 
> basicly shut
> down to almost all traffic, high security, firewall, port blocking and all - so it 
> looks like I
> wont be able to connect to my PC at home due to this.
> 
> Does the viewer decide the port to have a outgoing connection or the server ??
> 
> If so is there a port I can have the home PC server on instead of 5900 & 5800 ??
> 
> Port 80 - the internet port I think .  ? or any other ??
> 
> Thanks for all the help so far !!!
> 
> Opie
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-06-01 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
Is your company's firewall restricts or filter access to Internet?  OTOH, is 
your firewall a stateful one?  I don't know what "stateful" really means, but this 
word pops up several times to me concerning outgoing connections.

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : lundi 31 mai 2004 23:13
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> Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> Ok,
> 
> Dad can connect both ways from his home pc to my pc - Viewer & Java web connect
> 
> So it will work externally
> 
> At work I can not connect - both ways fail to connect - is there any way to find out 
> what is
> stopping the connection from my Work Pc - I am behind a large network with a 
> firewall -
> and the ip address is most likley going to change with each day that I work at a 
> diffrent
> station so I can't use add client to my home PC ??
> 
> Any Ideas on this one ??
> 
> Thanks - But still lost..
> 
> Opie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Brian Patterson
> 
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Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-31 Thread Opie
Ok,
 
Dad can connect both ways from his home pc to my pc - Viewer & Java web connect
 
So it will work externally
 
At work I can not connect - both ways fail to connect - is there any way to find out 
what is stopping the connection from my Work Pc - I am behind a large network with a 
firewall - and the ip address is most likley going to change with each day that I work 
at a diffrent station so I can't use add client to my home PC ??
 
Any Ideas on this one ??
 
Thanks - But still lost..
 
Opie






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Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-31 Thread Opie
Open Mouth insert foot.
 
Ok I got to work Monday and tried to access my home PC 
 
I have the correct IP address and I had the wife check it before and after I tried to 
connect Shes at home, but not that good a computers -- Still can not connect.
 
I have removed the router and I am just connecting straight from the cable modem, I 
asked Road Runner if they block ports 5900 & 5800 - No they do not.
 
Again It seems to work internally - Loopback Connection - I tried telnet to port 5900 
at home and connect got the RFB 003.003. At work I can not connect.
 
Also tried the WEB Java - At home I can connect - At work I can Not.
 
If my work blocks VNC I should be able to connect via Web ?? - At work they do use VNC 
also.So I would assume they dont block it. Also would it matter if at work I am 
behind a firewall and at a workstation on a large NAT internall network ??
 
I am going to try to have my dad try it at his house to connect to my home PC next but 
can get him till late tonight. And hes not good with PCs also.
 
Im no expert but not really a total newbieBUT what am I missing. I thought 
that the router was my problem but as it seems it was not. I have the VNC up and 
running have the correct IP address, open viewer and type in address what am I doing 
wrong - is there some setting that I missed at home that is not working ?? what more 
can you setup at the server. All I saw was the password.thats it ??
 
What more info can I provided To help anyone help me fix my connection problems.
 
Lost again..
 
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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-28 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : vendredi 28 mai 2004 00:07
> @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> LOL :)
> 
> Dont you just love Newbies ...Hahhaha
> 
> I LOVE GOOD HEARTED HUMOR  - - Seak, Teng-Fong  - Thanks
> 
> OK - I got mad at it and decided to try something - I took the router ( netgear RP 
> 614 ) out
> of the loop - Low-and-behold VNC works with no problem !!

I've just googled a bit (keywords: netgear rp 614 port forward problem) and 
indeed, the Netgear RP 614 seems to have problems in port forwarding, discussed in 
forums ..

And upgrading the firmware doesn't seem to solve the problem either ..

Ask for a refund from Netgear then :-)

> I talked to another user and he said that RP 614 - does NOT really Port foward that 
> he got a
> new router and it solved his problems.
> 
> As I said I thought I had the router configured correct 5900 & 5800 but what can I 
> say.
> 
> Emailing Netgear also to see if they have any ideas on what to do the get this 
> router to work
> or I will get an new one - wanted a bigger better router anyways
> 
> So if you know anything about the NetGear RP 614 - Tell Me
> 
> Other than that I guess I will upgrade.
> 
> Thanks 4 all the Help
> 
> Opie
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Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-27 Thread Opie
LOL :)
 
Dont you just love Newbies ...Hahhaha 
 
I LOVE GOOD HEARTED HUMOR  - - Seak, Teng-Fong  - Thanks
 
OK - I got mad at it and decided to try something - I took the router ( netgear RP 614 
) out of the loop - Low-and-behold VNC works with no problem !!
 
I talked to another user and he said that RP 614 - does NOT really Port foward that he 
got a new router and it solved his problems.
 
As I said I thought I had the router configured correct 5900 & 5800 but what can I say.
 
Emailing Netgear also to see if they have any ideas on what to do the get this router 
to work or I will get an new one - wanted a bigger better router anyways
 
So if you know anything about the NetGear RP 614 - Tell Me
 
Other than that I guess I will upgrade.
 
Thanks 4 all the Help
 
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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-27 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : mercredi 26 mai 2004 05:17
> @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   
> Wish I knew then this would not be a problem

LOL  If you go to see a doctor and just tell him, "Doctor, I am sick" and 
expect him to know what happens to you, that would be a miracle.

You have at least to tell us what steps/procedures you've done.  Much like a 
doctor has to ask you what you've eaten the day before you've got stomach ache.  If 
you can't remember what you've eaten, there's nothing he could do to you besides some 
generic medicines.

Is that what you want?  "Generic medicine" - check your port, check your 
config, check the FAQ and Doc?

>   
> Thats what Im still trying to find out

Idem as above.

>   http://xx.xx.xx.xx:5800/ and this failed,
> right?  That's because you forgot to open port 5800 as well in your
> router?
> 
>the SAME internal PC, or else don't expect it to work, logically :)
> 
> Forwarded 5800 & 5900 to the same PC yes
> 
> As I said before It will work both ways Internal - Java and VNC Viewer
> 
> If I try to access it thru the web at the VNC viewer I get the Failed to connect - I 
> and am
> using the correct IP address - as the tests have told me my IP address. So Im lost 
> on that one.
> 
> As for the Web Java yes I type in the IP address http://xx.xx.xx.xx:5800/ and it 
> comes up
> Can not find server
> 
> Still lost cant get it to work Externally
> 
> What to do now ??

Double check your settings

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Re: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-25 Thread Opie
Hello,
 
 http://xx.xx.xx.xx:5800/ and this failed, 
right?  That's because you forgot to open port 5800 as well in your 
router?

http://xx.xx.xx.xx:5800/ and it comes 
up  Can not find server
 
Still lost cant get it to work Externally
 
What to do now ??
 
Opie



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RE: Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-24 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
What have you done to have the failed connection?  And how did it fail?

Let me guess: you have typed http://xx.xx.xx.xx:5800/ and this failed, right?  
That's because you forgot to open port 5800 as well in your router?

On the other hand, make sure your port 5900 and 5800 are pointing to the SAME 
internal PC, or else don't expect it to work, logically :)

> -Message d'origine-
> De : Opie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyi : lundi 24 mai 2004 04:13
> @ : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect
> 
> Ok,
> 
> To get started I am running 98SE / RR Cable Access / Netgear Router
> 
> I opened port 5900 - Thru the router and tested with http://www.gotomyvnc.com/
> 
> Result -
> 
> xx.xx.xxx.xxx  is accepting connections on Display 0 (TCP port 5900).
> 
> 
> Also went to https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
> 
> Sheilds UP - Port Authority Edition  Internet Vulnerability Profiling
> by Steve Gibson,  Gibson Research Corporation.
> 
> 5900
> OPEN!Unknown Protocol for this port
> Unknown Application for this port
> 
> And tested the connection with my 2 PC's at home - I can connect to both PC's from 
> the
> internal IP 192.168.0.2 & 192.168.0.3 and control the other computer also tried the 
> Java
> connection http://192.168.0.2:5800 - http://192.168.0.3:5800 - and that worked also.
> 
> But when I try to connect with the router IP it comes failed to connect .
> 
> I checked my IP thru http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ and it is the same as the 
> routers
> status properties.
> 
> What am I doing wrong I tried all I can find, here on the FAQ and I also looked 
> around the
> web for help I am at a loss on what to do next...
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Opie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Brian Patterson
> 
> Site Admin & WebMaster
> 
> http://www.TackleBoxClub.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Read FAQ did a lot of testing but still can not connect

2004-05-23 Thread Opie
Ok, 
 
To get started I am running 98SE / RR Cable Access / Netgear Router 
 
I opened port 5900 - Thru the router and tested with http://www.gotomyvnc.com/
 
Result -
 
xx.xx.xxx.xxx  is accepting connections on Display 0 (TCP port 5900). 
 
 
Also went to https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 
 
Sheilds UP - Port Authority Edition  Internet Vulnerability Profiling
by Steve Gibson,  Gibson Research Corporation.
 
5900
OPEN!Unknown Protocol for this port
Unknown Application for this port

And tested the connection with my 2 PC's at home - I can connect to both PC's from the 
internal IP 192.168.0.2 & 192.168.0.3 and control the other computer also tried the 
Java connection http://192.168.0.2:5800 - http://192.168.0.3:5800 - and that worked 
also. 

But when I try to connect with the router IP it comes failed to connect .

I checked my IP thru http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ and it is the same as the 
routers status properties.

What am I doing wrong I tried all I can find, here on the FAQ and I also looked around 
the web for help I am at a loss on what to do next...

Thanks for any help,

Opie






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