Re: OFF TOPIC: Vesica Piscis addenda

2005-02-27 Thread Grimer
At 06:06 pm 26-02-05 -0800, you wrote:
...or, in Gnostic understanding, was Christianity originally
a Pythagorean off-shoot?

One more thing about this particular religious symbol which
I forgot to mention, for those who enjoy religious
symbolism, Gnostic mythology and codes ... and thankfully do
not have to risk incurring the wrath of the Benedictines
;-)

Some have interpreted the Vesica Piscis as evidence of the
Gnostic contention that Jesus, his disciples, and the sect
he belonged to was a Pythagorean sect instead of an Essene
or other Jewish offshoot group (there is much debate as to
which sect), but this Pythagorean connection would be highly
doubtful, had not thousands died believing it, and had not
Jesus' brother James and others who took up his cause (Paul)
been practicing Jews. Most of the Gnostics slaughtered and
burned at the stake for believing in the Pythagorean
connection being the aforementioned Albigensians. Had Jesus
spoken Greek, however, instead of Aramaic, it would be a
closer call as brothers often do take separate spiritual
paths. So far as I can tell, there is some, but little good
evidence that Jesus spoke Greek, or if there is clear
evidence, it is buried in some catacomb under Rome that was
missed in Angels and Demons, along with the Gospel of Mary.
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/archives/greek-2/msg00315.html

According to St. John, who was Greek, but is not believed to
a contemporary, Jesus performed his first public miracle at
a wedding feast in Cana, when he turned water into wine
(John 2:1-11). Side note  similarly, earlier Greek myth
had Dionysus turning water into wine at his own wedding to
Ariadne . Also in John, Jesus miraculously helped Peter and
other disciples catch a large number of fish at the Sea of
Galilee -- 153 fish, to be precise (John 21 : 11). Note:
Christianity originally first turned up in all the exact
places where Pythagorean sects were predominant (so called
Asia minor), leading some to think it spread through this
vector initially, before Paul and Peter took charge and
spread it to Rome.

The great mathematician Pythagoras, according to his
disciples - which sects had been spreading for 500 years or
so before Jesus, also performed this very same supernatural
feat with fish. Since far more ancient times, the original
fish story has been part of a mathematical ratio called
the measure of the fish, which produces the mystical
symbol of the vesica piscis (or pisces). This is the Icthus,
or sign of the fish, which of course, is still widely used
today as a symbol of Christianity. Icthus is a Greek word
long associated with the Pythagoreans for hundreds of years
prior to Jesus.

Pythagoras' disciples established religious communities
throughout the Greek world and some of them were in Galilee.
All were vegetarians but ate fish. The number 12 was a
common theme. Men and women were admitted equally, they took
vows of celibacy and all possessions were held in common.
Oil was used in the rites. Celibacy was defined somewhat
differently than we do today - basically it meant no
commitment to a single individual, what we would call a
romantic commitment. All wore white robes. Pythagoras
himself was reputed to have worked many miracles of healing,
including reviving several dead people. He was said to be
the son of a god, Apollo, and born of a mortal mother, who
was called Parthenesis, which means virgin. The word
Parthenon is a temple dedicated to a virgin, often her
name is Athena, but she is also called Madonna.

Like the great vegetarian miracle worker Pythagoras, Jesus
is strangely associated with fish, but not only real fish,
rather an allegorical code to explain a deep mystical
relationships. The Pythagoreans had a diagram of 2
intersecting circles, one above, one below, with the
circumference of one touching the center of the other. The 2
circles represented the spiritual and the material domains.
The transcendental region where the circles intersect
resembles a fish shape-exactly as used as the symbol for
Christianity. The Pythagoreans even gave this symbol its
latinized name, vesica piscis. The ratio of the height of
this fish symbol to its length is 153 : 265, which is the
*nearest whole number ratio to the square root of 3* (1.732
...) and the controlling ratio of the equilateral triangle.

Anyway, remember that key symbolic number =153. Now the
stories of both Pythagoras and Jesus have them telling
disciple fishermen - who have failed to catch fish all day,
to now cast their nets again. Miraculously, the nets come in
full. Pythagoras was said to have correctly predicted the
exact number of fish caught but the mystic number is not
revealed, after all it is a Gnostic story. But in the Gospel
story of Jesus the number of fish caught is given by St.
John, a Greek, as exactly 153.

Coincidence? Dan Brown missed his chance in Angels  Demons
(don't waste your time with that one) but the NT book of
John is my favorite by far, and if some new Dead Sea Scroll

Flux gates

2005-02-27 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I have a few questions on switching magnetic flux, as used in the 
Bearden Motionless
Electromagnetic Generator, and numerous other free energy magnet motors.

I can think of several ways to redirect or gate off magnetic flux:
1. Saturation of iron flux paths, either parallel to the flux as in the 
Bearden device,
or orthogonally as in a magnetic amplifier.

2. Curie point modulation -- moving the temperature of an iron flux path 
above and below
the Curie point.

3. Superconductivity modulation -- moving the temperature of a 
superconducting material above and
below its critical temperature ( the Meissner effect will surely make 
this very effective ).

4. Physical movement of iron slugs into and out of the path.
5. Perhaps moving bismuth diamagnetic materials into or near the paths.
Are there other ways?
Acoustic effects?
Rotating magnet effects?
High voltage effects?
RF effects?
I would assume that all of the above methods, by conventional theory or 
experiment show that
more energy is required to modulate the flux than could be gained by 
doing so -- has that been
shown to be true by experiment?  (Bearden (and others) claims it's not 
true).

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona


Re: a cause celebre'

2005-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote:
I will need the name of the University working with Mel.
University of La Verne
http://www.ulv.edu/
He is teaching there.
- Jed



Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Grimer
At 06:10 pm 26-02-05 -0500, Jed wrote:

 A mainstream CF researcher asked Ed Storms and I to 
 tone down or remove the Manifesto we posted on Thursday, 
 THE DOE LIES! I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it 
 is over the top. He replied with a very depressing message. 
 He says he understands why traditionally minded academic 
 researchers may feel this is excessive, but he thinks the 
 Manifesto is justified, and he agrees we should leave it.

snip

As for what else we can do . . Does anyone here have suggestions? 

snip



I have a suggestion - but you will probably find it far 
too Machiavellian. I believe, and I speak from real life 
experience, that the best way to get people's attention 
is to scare the shit out of them. 

As an illustration consider this personal history. 

  =
  When I was working in the Structural Division of 
  the Building Research Station, my particular 
  section was charged with the responsibility of 
  anticipating systemic structural failure before 
  they happened. Our cutting edge research on concrete 
  had shown that existing ideas about concrete 
  failure were seriously defective. This had relevant 
  implications for the safety of the British AGRs 
  (Advanced Gas-cooled Reactors) since they use 
  prestressed concrete for their pressure vessels. 
  However, though what we had discovered suggested 
  that AGRs weren't as safe as people imagined, 
  I wasn't to fazed about it since I didn't live 
  near one. g

  However, Chernobyl and a BBC TV programme on the 
  Hartlepool AGR which described how they were 
  tightening the loose tendons (rather than 
  loosening the tight ones) brought home to me 
  the frailty of human endeavours. I acquainted 
  my division head with my views just in case he 
  ever came across more detailed information of 
  problems in that area.

  Some years later we had a re-tread Director 
  (from Porton Down) who happened to read one 
  of my way out internal notes to which he took 
  violent exception. So much so that I was banned 
  from internal publication on my own authority. 

  As you might expect this really pissed me off. 
  So, to his utter fury, I appealed against the 
  decision on the grounds that the suppression 
  had implication for the safety of nuclear 
  reactors. 

  Now about that time there had been a lot of 
  worry about civil servants whistle blowing by 
  taking information on internal shenanigans to 
  the press. To reduce this leakage an appeal 
  system was set up giving every civil servant 
  the right of appeal to the very head (Permanent 
  Secretary) of his Department. 

  Furthermore, if the PS saw fit, the appeal 
  could proceed all the way up to the Head of 
  the Home Civil Service and Cabinet Secretary, 
  Robin Butler himself, (now Lord Butler) and, 
  not unnaturally in view of the subject matter, 
  the buck was passed right to the top. Nigel and
  I finished up in the RB's room in the Cabinet
  Office explaining the problem. Needless to say
  poor Robin was as out of his depth as Christopher
  Robin would have been. He was very nice about
  though but explained that he had no choice 
  but to rely on the advice of his underlings.

  On its journey our appeal went through the 
  scrutiny of a supposedly Expert Committee (what 
  a farce that was but I'll save that for another 
  time) with the inevitable fudge that I was given 
  15 weeks to write a paper going into the 
  reasons for my concerns in greater depth. 

  I said I needed 2 years to do the job properly 
  (that being the time to my retirement ;-) ) 
  and if they weren't prepared for that then 
  they obviously weren't taking the matter 
  seriously. There the matter rested.

  =

So if you want to get people's attention, all you have 
to do is to point out to the great unwashed, in as lurid 
a way as you can, that if the Evil Empire harnesses 
Cold Fusion before the US, they will all finish up 
reading the koran and wearing chadors.

It's no good saying the development of small CF 
bombs is unlikely. Until we know why and how cold 
fusion works we are only guessing as to what's 
likely and what ain't.

The point is, since nine-eleven the American public 
are running scared. Why else do you think that they 
re-elected Bush. They are scared that next time 
things will be nucular (to use my favourite Bushism). 

And the more extreme religious right are probably 
even more scared that muhammadan hoards are going 
to come sweeping across America as they did across 
Africa in the middle ages. You need to play upon 
that fear - just like the insurance companies play 
on the fear of all sorts of unlikely injuries and 
happenstance.

And if the claimed percentages for belief in flying 
saucers and little green men is true (we may even 
include some Vortexians) then the evidence of a group 
of respectable scientists who are prepared to stand 
up and shout 

Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Dear Frank,
I totally agree with you.  The time for being nice has past.  The DOE 
has shown gross dishonesty and the energy situation is getting out of 
hand.  The Manifesto is just the start.  With a little luck and enough 
effort, we hope to get the public concerned.  However, I have no 
allusions about the difficulty.  If the issue involved any subject other 
than Cold Fusion, and perhaps UFOs, the press would be interested. 
Unfortunately, so many other issues are being generated these days by 
the US government that the press has difficulty keeping up even when it 
wants to.  Anyway, if you know anyone in the press who might take an 
interest, please let me know.

Regards,
Ed

Grimer wrote:
At 06:10 pm 26-02-05 -0500, Jed wrote:

A mainstream CF researcher asked Ed Storms and I to 
tone down or remove the Manifesto we posted on Thursday, 
THE DOE LIES! I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it 
is over the top. He replied with a very depressing message. 
He says he understands why traditionally minded academic 
researchers may feel this is excessive, but he thinks the 
Manifesto is justified, and he agrees we should leave it.

snip
As for what else we can do . . Does anyone here have suggestions? 

snip

I have a suggestion - but you will probably find it far 
too Machiavellian. I believe, and I speak from real life 
experience, that the best way to get people's attention 
is to scare the shit out of them. 

As an illustration consider this personal history. 

  =
  When I was working in the Structural Division of 
  the Building Research Station, my particular 
  section was charged with the responsibility of 
  anticipating systemic structural failure before 
  they happened. Our cutting edge research on concrete 
  had shown that existing ideas about concrete 
  failure were seriously defective. This had relevant 
  implications for the safety of the British AGRs 
  (Advanced Gas-cooled Reactors) since they use 
  prestressed concrete for their pressure vessels. 
  However, though what we had discovered suggested 
  that AGRs weren't as safe as people imagined, 
  I wasn't to fazed about it since I didn't live 
  near one. g

  However, Chernobyl and a BBC TV programme on the 
  Hartlepool AGR which described how they were 
  tightening the loose tendons (rather than 
  loosening the tight ones) brought home to me 
  the frailty of human endeavours. I acquainted 
  my division head with my views just in case he 
  ever came across more detailed information of 
  problems in that area.

  Some years later we had a re-tread Director 
  (from Porton Down) who happened to read one 
  of my way out internal notes to which he took 
  violent exception. So much so that I was banned 
  from internal publication on my own authority. 

  As you might expect this really pissed me off. 
  So, to his utter fury, I appealed against the 
  decision on the grounds that the suppression 
  had implication for the safety of nuclear 
  reactors. 

  Now about that time there had been a lot of 
  worry about civil servants whistle blowing by 
  taking information on internal shenanigans to 
  the press. To reduce this leakage an appeal 
  system was set up giving every civil servant 
  the right of appeal to the very head (Permanent 
  Secretary) of his Department. 

  Furthermore, if the PS saw fit, the appeal 
  could proceed all the way up to the Head of 
  the Home Civil Service and Cabinet Secretary, 
  Robin Butler himself, (now Lord Butler) and, 
  not unnaturally in view of the subject matter, 
  the buck was passed right to the top. Nigel and
  I finished up in the RB's room in the Cabinet
  Office explaining the problem. Needless to say
  poor Robin was as out of his depth as Christopher
  Robin would have been. He was very nice about
  though but explained that he had no choice 
  but to rely on the advice of his underlings.

  On its journey our appeal went through the 
  scrutiny of a supposedly Expert Committee (what 
  a farce that was but I'll save that for another 
  time) with the inevitable fudge that I was given 
  15 weeks to write a paper going into the 
  reasons for my concerns in greater depth. 

  I said I needed 2 years to do the job properly 
  (that being the time to my retirement ;-) ) 
  and if they weren't prepared for that then 
  they obviously weren't taking the matter 
  seriously. There the matter rested.

  =
So if you want to get people's attention, all you have 
to do is to point out to the great unwashed, in as lurid 
a way as you can, that if the Evil Empire harnesses 
Cold Fusion before the US, they will all finish up 
reading the koran and wearing chadors.

It's no good saying the development of small CF 
bombs is unlikely. Until we know why and how cold 
fusion works we are only guessing as to what's 
likely and what ain't.

The point is, since nine-eleven the American public 
are running 

RE: Flux gates

2005-02-27 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Hoyt.

You've covered most of the major methods. And yes, the
standard theory about these things is that you don't get
more out than you put in. That said, there is a wealth
of new phenomena that you don't see with linear resonators,
and is well worth study on your part. It is better to
think of flux switching/parameter change as being a means
to an end rather than the end itself.

K.

-Original Message-
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:12 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Flux gates


I have a few questions on switching magnetic flux, as used in the 
Bearden Motionless
Electromagnetic Generator, and numerous other free energy magnet motors.

I can think of several ways to redirect or gate off magnetic flux:

1. Saturation of iron flux paths, either parallel to the flux as in the 
Bearden device,
or orthogonally as in a magnetic amplifier.

2. Curie point modulation -- moving the temperature of an iron flux path 
above and below
the Curie point.

3. Superconductivity modulation -- moving the temperature of a 
superconducting material above and
below its critical temperature ( the Meissner effect will surely make 
this very effective ).

4. Physical movement of iron slugs into and out of the path.

5. Perhaps moving bismuth diamagnetic materials into or near the paths.

Are there other ways?

Acoustic effects?
Rotating magnet effects?
High voltage effects?
RF effects?

I would assume that all of the above methods, by conventional theory or 
experiment show that
more energy is required to modulate the flux than could be gained by 
doing so -- has that been
shown to be true by experiment?  (Bearden (and others) claims it's not 
true).


Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona




Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Michael Foster

Jed wrote:

 Because he said he will probably retire. He is giving up.
 He has been trying for years to get funding. He even 
 thought of going to China. I shot back an answer saying
 Wait! I will do my best to help. The other readers here
 should pitch in, and tell Mel Miles you stand with him.

Would you care to tell us how much money would constitute
funding for Mel Miles?  When you know what your goal is
it's usually easier to reach.

M.


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Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Foster writes:

 Would you care to tell us how much money would constitute
 funding for Mel Miles?  When you know what your goal is
 it's usually easier to reach.

Good question. I have no idea. I have copied this response to Miles.

Perhaps part of the goal here is to get official money from a credible 
source. Sometimes this helps when it is time to submit a paper to peer-review 
at a journal. Also, Miles needs the cooperation of the government and the U.S. 
Navy in particular, since he wants materials from Szpak et al. (See his 
comments in the Manifesto.)

- Jed





Re: A cause celebre? - with two for one benefits

2005-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
If Mel does get an experiment going, it might attract more attention than most 
CF research does. Suppose he is funded after a well-publicized battle, partly 
because a half-dozen reporters publish his story. Six months later, we call 
those reporters back and say, guess what, it worked. My guess is they would 
be inclined to publish a follow-up story.

- Jed





RE: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Keith Nagel
Frank writes:
You wrote I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it 
is over the top. Goodness me! You sound like 
Ned Flanders. All credit to Mel Miles for his 
gutsey reply. Why on earth did it depress you.

I can't answer for Ed or Jed, but it depresses me because
it's a sign of desperation and failure. Fear is a
good motivator for destroying things; the techniques
and methods you describe are generally used for destructive
purposes. For example, if we wished to _stop_ CF research
fear would be a good way to go about it.

But we're trying to _create_ something here. And therein
lies the rub. If you're looking to engage the emotions,
the relevant one here is seduction, not fear. Think Clinton,
not Bush. Needless to say, if you think scientists are
bad at the fear game, their general ineptitude at seduction
is legendary (grin). But you can't frighten people into
the new, they must be seduced there.

By the way, what's so horrible about China? 

K.

 



Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Edmund Storms

Keith Nagel wrote:
Frank writes:
You wrote I asked Mel Miles whether he thinks it 
is over the top. Goodness me! You sound like 
Ned Flanders. All credit to Mel Miles for his 
gutsey reply. Why on earth did it depress you.

I can't answer for Ed or Jed, but it depresses me because
it's a sign of desperation and failure. Fear is a
good motivator for destroying things; the techniques
and methods you describe are generally used for destructive
purposes. For example, if we wished to _stop_ CF research
fear would be a good way to go about it.
Granted this is a sign of failure.   However, we are not using fear, 
only embarrassment, at least with respect to the DOE.  The population 
needs to realize the advantages of CF.  The fear only comes if the 
advantages are ignored, in the same manner death comes if the advantages 
of medicine are ignored.


But we're trying to _create_ something here. And therein
lies the rub. If you're looking to engage the emotions,
the relevant one here is seduction, not fear. Think Clinton,
not Bush. Needless to say, if you think scientists are
bad at the fear game, their general ineptitude at seduction
is legendary (grin). But you can't frighten people into
the new, they must be seduced there.
Tell me Keith, how does one go about seducing the DOE?  My experience 
with the government is that it is immune to seduction.  It can be 
bought, it can be threatened by popular pressure, or it can be 
embarrassed.  Otherwise, it does what current attitudes dictate.
By the way, what's so horrible about China? 
If China gets CF before we do, we are toast.  Also, China is not a 
pleasant place to work, being very polluted.

Regards,
Ed
K.
 





RE: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Keith Nagel
Hi Ed,

you write:
Granted this is a sign of failure.   However, we are not using fear, 
only embarrassment, at least with respect to the DOE.  The population 
needs to realize the advantages of CF.  The fear only comes if the 
advantages are ignored, in the same manner death comes if the advantages 
of medicine are ignored.

I was responding more to Frank Grimers suggestions; as far
as I have seen so far you and Jed are dabbling in populism,
in particular the sort of victimhood politics which previously
were the domain of the left and are now the dominant domain
of the right. I say this in a descriptive fashion, please don't
take offense here. I don't think we can get very far on
this issue without talking about things in a way which will
repulse and disgust most rational people. So as it applies
here, the DOE is the big bad government monster, and Mel
is the poor downtrodden victimized scientist. That's the
frame you're using, yes?

Tell me Keith, how does one go about seducing the DOE?  My experience 
with the government is that it is immune to seduction.  It can be 
bought, it can be threatened by popular pressure, or it can be 
embarrassed.  Otherwise, it does what current attitudes dictate.

That's what most men think about women, which is why it
always shocks them when the wife/girlfriend runs off
with the personal trainer.

That said, I was under the impression that the DOE was a dead issue at this 
point.

RC seems to be leaning towards Houston money people
( wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall when he
tries to convince them to donate money to a California
liberal arts college professor to do work that will undermine the
petroleum industry? More power to you RC, if you can
sell them on this I'll personally fly to Texas just
to shake the hand of such a master salesman ). 

Everyone else seems to be leaning towards populist methods.

As regards the seduction approach, you've got the wrong
poster boy for starters. Read that post I did a few days
ago about my Soho gallery experience, it was easy to pick
out the artist, she was the most gorgeous girl in the
room. Hardly an accident. I'll be really crass and say,
why don't you get a hold of this person

http://www.lenr-canr.org/images/Leeexperimentlarge.jpg

as the public face of your effort. I can at
least say that if you do an internet begging site as John suggests
you'll get far more donations from that photo
than from this one...

http://www.ulv.edu/chemistry/img/biopic_miles.jpg

Feeling oily yet? It only gets worse my friend...

If China gets CF before we do, we are toast.  Also, China is not a 
pleasant place to work, being very polluted.

Why? Who do you think will be manufacturing the CF
devices? The manufacturing base in this country is
long gone. We'll be buying it from them no matter how
things play out. In fact, the patent situation being
what it is, we're already precluded from commercial
success here in America. I mean, if all that business
with the DOE wasn't about trying to change things
at the USPTO, then what was it?

K.



Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Grimer
At 02:28 pm 27-02-05 -0500, Jed wrote:
Frank Grimer writes:

 I have a suggestion - but you will probably find it far 
 too Machiavellian. I believe, and I speak from real life 
 experience, that the best way to get people's attention 
 is to scare the shit out of them. 
   

 I could frighten them if I could get their attention, 


You want people's attention?

I'll give you people's attention.

Repeat the Pons and Fleishmann experiment, only this 
time, instead of a one centimeter cube, use a 6 inch 
cube.

==
In EXCESS HEAT, page 36, Beaudette writes, 
--

Kevin Ashley was a graduate student of Pons in the 
chemistry department. He witnessed the scene the 
morning after the meltdown. This one morning I walk 
in, the door is open and Pons and Fleischmann are 
in the room with Joe:.. The lab is a mess and there 
is particulate dust in the air. On this lab bench 
are the remnants of an experiment. The bench was one 
of those black top benches that was made of very, 
very hard material. There were cabinets under one end 
of the bench, but the experiment was near the middle 
where there was nothing underneath. I was astonished 
that there was a hole through the thing. The hole was 
about a foot in diameter. Under the hole was a pretty 
good sized pit in the concrete floor. It may have been 
as much as four inches deep.

What really surprised me, Ashley continued, was 
that Stan and Martin Fleischmann had these looks on 
their faces as though they were the car that had 
just swallowed the canary. The:' were clearly not 
displeased with this mess, They were happy about 
what had happened. I was rather surprised by this, 
very surprised by this.

==
 
I know how they felt. I felt exactly the same when I
inspected GRC clad buildings which were falling apart.
On one occasion at the high security Midland Bank 
Computer Building in Sheffield my glee was so manifest 
I had to explain to my minders that though they were 
attending a funeral I was celebrating a wedding.

And if buildings crumble and grad students die - tough!
When will Americans learn that success in things that
really matter cannot be bought with dollars - it has
to be bought with blood. If Brits hadn't learned the 
blood, sweat toil and tears. lesson well in 1940s 
the Falklands would now be under the jackboot of an 
Galtieri dictatorship.


You want press attention? 

I'll give you press attention.

Start a research program to develop a CF bomb with the 
avowed intention of saving America by getting there 
before the terrorists do. You will get all the press 
attention you can handle - and then some. Probably 
get quite a lot of financial support from crazy gun 
lobby billionaires too, I shouldn't wonder. 

As for global warming, only overfed western liberals 
who've nothing better to worry about give a damn. Who 
cares whether the world lasts another hundred or another 
thousand years. We'll all be dead long before that anyway.

Cheers   ;-)

Frank Grimer





Re: a cause celebre

2005-02-27 Thread RC Macaulay



A defeatist attitude insures only one thing .. defeat. 


A short story follows.. a few years back, at the 
national Weftec conference we had a booth exhibiting our product line. At the 
time Vivendi-US Filterof France was the king of the hill in water treating 
equipment manufacturing. Overheard was a comment by one of their people stating 
they would run our small firm ,building a single product line ,out of business 
in a year. Shazzaam! They are now back in the porn movie business where they 
belong, having sold US Filter to Seimens of Germany.

Seimens, being too smart to fight a winner is ceding the 
specific market to us just as Severn-Trent is doing. 

All of which means if you are tough smart and tenacious 
you have, at the least, a chance. LENR-CANR has a chance, perhaps slim or 
great..For sure, you cant play poker with scared money.

No more defeatist chatter.. organize, develope a winning 
strategy and assign tasks.. time is on your side as long as progress is being 
made. Battles are won and lost in the mind before any shots are fired. Ask 
Napoleon who won and how?

Richard
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Re: a cause celebre'

2005-02-27 Thread RC Macaulay



Gosh! Keith.. Grimer has me in here because I'm crazy, 
not stupid. Going to Houston doesn't mean sticking my head in Exxon's mouth. The 
idea is to approach money for " seed " money. Foundations love to" participate" 
NOT carry the bucket.

Besides, you fudged on the pic of the girl.. she's not 
wearing safety goggles. a no no!

Richard

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Re: a cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote:

 Suggestion,, the University may be challenged to match funds pledged by 
 private business interests for the
 advancement of science.

As I said, Miles needs the cooperation of the government, not only for the 
money, but for materials from the Navy.

- Jed






Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton

--- Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's no good saying the development of small CF 
 bombs is unlikely. Until we know why and how cold 
 fusion works we are only guessing as to what's 
 likely and what ain't.

On the contrary, consider the hypothetical situation
that the reason the DoE won't fund the project is
because of how *easy* it is to make a leaner (LENR)
bomb.

It's a lot harder to build a nuke pile in a stadium in
Chicago than a hot jar in Utah.

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[OT] Gnosticism

2005-02-27 Thread Terry Blanton
Vorts interested should read Pagels Beyond Belief:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375703160/qid=1109550256/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-8739248-7293410?v=glances=booksn=507846



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Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Steven Krivit
Frank,

You want press attention?
I'll give you press attention.
Start a research program to develop a CF bomb with the
avowed intention of saving America by getting there
before the terrorists do. You will get all the press
attention you can handle - and then some. Probably
get quite a lot of financial support from crazy gun
lobby billionaires too, I shouldn't wonder.
Charles called the incident a meltdown. I'm not quite sure why he labeled 
it as such. I interviewed Ashley as well, and also read Taubes' interview 
of Ashley. They all match. I talked with Martin about this in as much 
detail as he was willing and able to remember. There was particulate in the 
air in the morning - but nothing was burning. The hole in the concrete 
floor was 30cm wide by 10cm deep.  Somebody want to tell me that the 
concrete *melted*? I don't think so.

Steve



Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Steven Krivit

Because he said he will probably retire. He is giving up. He has been 
trying for years to get funding. He even thought of going to China. I shot 
back an answer saying Wait! I will do my best to help. The other readers 
here should pitch in, and tell Mel Miles you stand with him.

- Jed

Jed,
I think our best tools and weapons are the Internet. In light of the fact 
that what we have here is a failure to communicate between the cold fusion 
community and the rest of the world, I am thinking of developing some video 
documentary segments and putting them up on New Energy Times.

These are my understandings:
- The general public is much more receptive to video than they are print.
- Since we are dealing with a -belief- and -perception- problem, and not a 
fact problem, the effect of a real live person talking, appearing 
visually, can not only have a far more powerful effect to reach people, but 
it also has the ability to carry emotions, which text does not. And 
emotions, not facts, are what drive people to act and respond.

This is my situation and proposal:
I am in a position to create a short video documentary of Mel. He lives 
just an hour away from me. I just went down to SPAWAR and filmed Szpak, 
Boss and Gordon a few weeks ago in anticipation of their forthcoming Volume 
3. We shot about 1.5 hours talking about many aspects in general, as well 
as their unique contribution to the field, co-deposition. I did that shoot 
on the cheap with a local filmmaker who's had some experience doing 
documentaries and who is sympathetic to cold fusion. Mind you, he's not a 
producer-type, deep-pockets-type, Chris is a hands-on tech-type and knows 
how to stage, shoot and edit. I have not yet figured out what level and 
quality of post-production I want to do on the SPAWAR segment yet. Part of 
that depends on funds.

So I can see doing some film work with Mel's situation. I know his story 
and could easily have a nice talk with him on-camera, maybe get some of the 
ULV administrators on camera showing their support of Mel, etc.

Here is my situation: My computer niche has slowly obsoleted itself, down 
to now about 5% of my time. I've had plans to start up in a new business 
altogether, but a few weeks ago, after I produced newsletter #8, an 
individual said he liked what I was doing - and offered to kick in some 
limited support. For the moment, I am doing everything I can for this 
cause, directing my attention to provide news and educational information 
on the field.

I've got a few projects on the burner right now. I'm giving two 
presentations at APS in March, and I have newsletter #9 in the works. 
Between the Mizuno explosion and the Miles/Horwitz issue, I'm scrambling as 
quick as I can to write and edit. Once that's done, I'm going to engage in 
a hunt for additional funding to continue this work.

The point of all this, coming back to the thread, is that if anybody is 
interested in helping to pay the post-production costs for either/both the 
SPAWAR segment and a future M.Miles segment, I will make them happen and 
make the documentaries freely available on the Web. The costs to shoot are 
relatively inexpensive, but I don't know off the top of my head the 
post-production (editing etc.) costs. If anyone is interested in funding 
this project, I can get pricing options. Also, tax-deductible donations can 
be arranged.

However, there is an unavoidable fact that must be considered with this 
outreach idea: We still need a news hook. We can make the most interesting, 
inspiring short documentary, but if the public doesn't CLEARLY have 
something to tie the situation to in their own lives - it won't go any 
further than preaching to the choir. The story needs to reach people that 
have not yet been reached on the subject of cold fusion.

What would drive people to learn about this story?  What fear? What desire?
People need to picture gasoline at $10 or $20 a gallon. Or rising ocean 
water levels. Or more extinct species. Or buying cold fusion batteries 
from China. By the way, the predecessor to my book, The 2004 Cold Fusion 
Report has been translated into Chinese (by volunteers, no less) and is in 
the editing and proof-reading phase...I think this shows some rather strong 
interest.

So I guess this is where I come full circle - and arrive without a crucial 
answer to this enigma. How to get the attention of people who don't know 
and don't care, but would really want to know and care - if they only knew 
-- just a little more.  I leave this question in the hands of the brilliant 
group mind of Vortex.

One further thought...as Grimer noted, on the subject of Machiavelli. Do we 
really expect the government to support cold fusion? Is this a fantasy? 
Honestly, I think the best way to get the USG to fund cold fusion is for 
China to show up with a cold fusion reactor or heater. Sputnik, the sequel.

Steve





Unified Theory

2005-02-27 Thread Baronvolsung

In a message dated 2/24/05 12:01:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


this is mostly new from the BLP site. 

http://www.blacklightpower.com/pdf/Theory%20Pres%20020905%20std%202.pdf
 
The above link discusses the Unified Maxwell Theory based on Relativity which is very helpful, but we should also consider the comments below by Konstantine Meyl, in his book Scalar Waves about Unified Theory:

Scalar Waves by Konstantine Meyl, Pg. 530 to 566., 2003 Indel:

"Demokrit (460-370 BC) equated the vortex concept with "Law of nature "= the first attempt to formulate a unified physics. 

Comparison of Faraday's Universal Theory of Objectivity to the special case of Maxwell's Theory and Relativity:

Faraday's Universal Theory of Objectivity based on the law of unipolar induction

1. The Farady approach is universal
2. It reveals a physical principle
3. The field is the cause for the particles
4. Principles of causality are preserved.
5. Particles are probably field configurations
6. Quanta can be calculated as field vortices without any hypothesis. 
7. All quantum properties can be calculated likewise.
8. Potential vortices form electrical field vortices. The E field is a source free vortex field.
9. Field vortices carry momentum and form a scalar wave. 
10. Longitudinal wave with arbitrary velocity of propagation v. 

Maxwell Theory and Relativity:

1. Maxwell's field equations can be derived. 
2. The field equations describe only a special case
3. Particle and field are cause and effect at the same time.
4. Violation of the rules of causality. 
5. Particle consist of hypothetic subparticles.
6. Quark-hypothesis must replace missing calculation.
7. Sorting and systematizing of the properties of the standard model. 
8. The electric field is irrotational. The E field is an irrotational field of sources 
9.Electromagnetic wave is a transverse wave. 
10. Constant propagation with the speed of light c. 

According to the Maxwell theory there exists no vortixes of the electric field (no potential vortices) and therefore no scalar waves. ...

For the description of the losses the Maxwell theory on the one hand only offers field vortices and those only in the conductive medium. On the other hand do the dielectric losses occure in the nonconductor and in the air. In conductive materials vortex fields occur, in the insulator however the fields are irrotational. That isn't possible, since at the transition from the conductor to the insulator the laws of refraction are valid and these require continuity! Hence a failure of the Maxwell theory will occur in the dielectric. As a consequence the existence of vortex fields in the dielectric, so called potential vortices should be required!

The Maxwell equations on the one hand dictate that as the reason for a wave damping only field vortices should be considered. On the other hand the same laws merely describe eddy currents, which can only occur in the electrically conducting parts of the antenna. On the one hand the field vortex interpretations makes it possible to explain the noise of the antenna perfectly ... In field physics on the other hand is missing a useful description of electrical field vortices in a dielectric, which could found the noise signal. 

According to Maxwell Theory:

Longitudinal waves run in the direction of a field pointer.
The field pointer oscillates, the vector of velocity oscillates along!
At relativistic velocities field vortices are subject to the Lorentz contraction. 
The faster the oscillating vortex is on its way, the smaller it gets.
The vortex permanently changes its diameter.
With the diameter the wavelength decreases. 
The swirl velocity is constant (=speed of light c).
The eigenfrequency of the vortex oscillates with opposite phase to the wavelength. 
The vortex acts as a frequency converter!
The measurable mixture of frequencies is called noise. 

The antenna noise corresponds to the antenna losses!

Mathematically seen the damping- resp. vortex according to Maxwell can be put equal to the scalar wave term according to Laplace. 
Physically seen the generated field vortices form and found a scalar wave. ..

In the case of the antenna example the vortex part amounts to 20 percent, then that's tantamount to 20 percent scalar wave part, resp. 20 percent noise. The scalar wave part constitutes with regard to the Hertzian useful wave something like an error term in the wave equation. The part definitely is to big, as that it might be equal to zero. Even so all error considerations in textbooks is missing, if the scalar wave term is assumed to be zero. That violates all rules of physics and of taught scientific methodism. ..

If an antenna on the one hand produces field vortices and as a consequence eddy losses and on the other hand dielectric losses, then we can assume that besides the eddy currents in the conductor also vortices in the dielectric must exist. 

Potential vortices explain div. phenomena in the dielectric:

1. 

Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Grimer
At 05:18 pm 27-02-05 -0800, you wrote:
 Frank,


 You want press attention?

 I'll give you press attention.

 Start a research program to develop a CF bomb with the
 avowed intention of saving America by getting there
 before the terrorists do. You will get all the press
 attention you can handle - and then some. Probably
 get quite a lot of financial support from crazy gun
 lobby billionaires too, I shouldn't wonder.

 Charles called the incident a meltdown. I'm not quite sure why he labeled 
 it as such. I interviewed Ashley as well, and also read Taubes' interview 
 of Ashley. They all match. I talked with Martin about this in as much 
 detail as he was willing and able to remember. There was particulate in the 
 air in the morning - but nothing was burning. The hole in the concrete 
 floor was 30cm wide by 10cm deep.  Somebody want to tell me that the 
 concrete *melted*? I don't think so.

 Steve



 That is an extremely valuable confirmation of the facts, Steve. 
 As an expert in the failure of concrete I can definitely say,
 that ain't no meltdown.   ;-)

 I'm glad we've now got your independent testimony in the 
 Vortex archives for all to read and reference.

 Frank




Re: A cause celebre?

2005-02-27 Thread Steven Krivit
Jed,
Just a thought .. it may be more strategic to posture DOE as acting more 
ridiculously rather than unfairly.

Steve 



Re: Explosive Antimony on Platinum, Cold Fusion in 1855?

2005-02-27 Thread Grimer

At 01:21 pm 27-02-05 -0600, Sparber wrote:

 Is it possible that the Platinum-Antimony, Platinum-Hydride interface
 set up conditions for Cold Fusion, that released 82 Kilojoule per 
 gram of Explosive Antimony in Gore's 1855 experiments? 


 That's quite a thought, Fred.

 History has often shown, with hindsight, that there were
 clear precursors to paradigm shifting discoveries which 
 at the time were just too mind blowing for people to 
 take in. 

 Frank Grimer