RE: [Vo]:New publication at EGO OUT

2012-12-09 Thread Jones Beene
Peter,

 

There is a provocative analogy of LENR to fission (in the context of the
Oklo natural fission site):

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor

 

But it is non-obvious, and yet it suggests that there could indeed be a
natural LENR on Earth. 

 

Don't laugh - I am completely serious. Perhaps you were a bit too timid to
go there :-)

 

If you take the metaphor of Oklo even further, the place on earth where one
would look for a similar anomaly is nickel mines. What would one look for?
That part is simple: isotope anomalies. 

 

This assumes that nickel LENR is a novel reaction with hydrogen that results
in isotopic changes. There are other possibilities to look for - but for
now, let's stick with this one.

 

As fate would have it - in doing a cursory search (Bing, instead of Google,
nowadays) it turns out that the nickel in most meteorites is neutron-poor
isotopically compared to natural nickel on earth. However, nickel mines on
earth usually have, as their source of rich ore - large and ancient
meteorite  impact sites. Sudbury in Ontario is a case in point. Yet the
nickel there is NOT neutron poor.

 

The authors in the paper below make an assumption the earth's nickel is the
baseline standard for isotope distribution. However, if we start from a
different premise and assume that millions of years ago, earthly nickel
began to slowly change isotopically, due to hydrogen interaction ala LENR
then you come to a surprising conclusion. BTW - hydrogen can come from
either H2O seepage in mines or from the solar wind. 

 

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2012/pdf/2354.pdf

 

Could earthly nickel have changed slight over the millennia . and meteorites
we find from later date actually be the correct baseline? Maybe, but not an
ounce of proof for that contention so far - however, the possibility cannot
be ignored. That specific scenario for heavier nickel would be that over
time, the neutron rich isotopes are transmuted via virtual neutrons on
earth, but in a novel reaction that does not change the z (to copper,
although some of the time it does).

 

Virtual neutrons, in this case, are the result of fractional hydrogen f/H -
which is hydrogen going into a deeply redundant ground state where it
becomes energy poor and then finally is adsorbed as a virtual neutron, not
a proton (as in W-L). An example would be 60Ni - 61Ni but in the sense of a
novel reaction, which goes no further. No subsequent beta decay.

 

Of course, the bulk of neutron changes which we know about do involve a
later beta decay, but in this case, the f/H probably arrives from the solar
wind where it is already energy-depleted having given up EUV energy in the
solar corona in the way that Randell Mills has suggested.

 

Jones

 

 

From: Peter Gluck 

 

Is cold fusion natural?

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/12/is-cold-fusion-natural-essay-in.html

 

Actually who will care when it will be a genuine energy 

source? Natural is very popular, cold fusion is only for us

but perhaps the question(s) will do some good for solving some

problems.

Peter

 

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck

Cluj, Romania

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

 



Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #1.

2012-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
In addition to the Papp reaction, Anderson localization is critical in our
understanding of the mechanisms underway in many other gas based LENR
reactions. As an example, take the DGT reaction as follows:

If you take a look at the ionization potential list of gases again

Sorted by 1st Ionization Potential (eV), Name, Sym #

12.130 Xenon Xe 54
12.967 Chlorine Cl 17
13.598 Hydrogen H 1
13.618 Oxygen O 8
13.999 Krypton Kr 36
14.534 Nitrogen N 7
15.759 Argon Ar 18
17.422 Fluorine F 9
21.564 Neon Ne 10
24.587 Helium He 2

You will notice that hydrogen is highly dielectric. Because of this, spark
discharge in hydrogen will produce highly localized and energetic clusters
of electrons and protons as a result of Anderson localization.

This clustering effect is amplified in these highly dielectric gases as the
pressure  of these gases increases.

This is the reason why DGT produces LENR reactions by applying spark
discharge in high pressure hydrogen gas. Bearing in mind that gas pressure
intensifies dielectric charge concentrations in gases, the DGT reaction
will stop when the pressure of the hydrogen is reduced.

Cheers:   Axil

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thoughts on reading the Papp patent.

 http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/2pappats.htm

 There is an interesting paragraph in the Papp patent that interested me
 greatly; yes, it hit one of my hot buttons very hard. It is quoted as
 follows:

 “*Similarly, atoms which exhibit alpha particle emission (which generally
 involves strong interaction between nucleons), are capable of being
 utilized. Although alpha decay is normally slow and have half-lives which
 are longer due to electrostatic barriers that make it difficult for alpha
 particles to escape, the present invention utilizes periodic discharges of
 electrical energy which speed up the escape of alpha particles and permit
 the reactions to be utilized effectively in the method of the present
 invention*.”

 I have come to believe that the separation and concentration of charge
 carriers relax the coulomb barrier in general proximity to the spark.

 Ken shoulders believes that this lowering of the coulomb barrier is a
 ultimately related to the modification of the magnetic permeability of the
 vacuum.

 Anderson localization is a means to support the separation and
 concentration of charge carriers in helium as follows:

 ELECTRON MOBILITY IN DENSE HE GAS

 A.F. Borghesani

 *Experiments on the mobility of electrons in dense helium gas elucidated
 how localized electron states develop when the gas density gas is
 increased. Up to 77 K, the density dependence of the mobility clearly shows
 that the formation of electron bubbles is a continuous phenomenon. *

 *Localization of electrons in bubbles also appears at high temperatures
 if the density is so large that the free energy of the localized state is
 negative enough. *

 *Percolation and hydrodynamic models have been devised to explain the
 continuous transition from high mobility states to low-mobility states. *

 *It is shown that density-dependent, quantum multiple scattering effects
 modify the energy of the nearly free electron in a way that can be
 accurately described by heuristically modifying the kinetic theory
 prediction.*

 In radioactive isotopes in a dense helium environment, the relaxation of
 their coulomb barriers will greatly increase the emission rates of
 associated alpha, beta and gamma radiation.

 This increased nuclear radiation will ionize helium based penning noble
 gases mixes.



Re: [Vo]:New publication at EGO OUT

2012-12-09 Thread Axil Axil
Similar to superconductivity and electronics, LENR is a quantum
mechanical(QM) based technology. The QM way of thinking is unnatural to the
common man to say the least and to many who seek to understand LENR, but it
will become natural and in fact self-evident to those experts trained in
the QM arts.

LENR is a technology and not a science. Until the LENR engineers discover
the QM principles that underlie LENR in its many manifestations and guises,
this subject will remain unnatural to them.

Cheers:Axil


On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:

 My dear Friends,

 Before asking is cold fusion working well?
 lt's the time for other questions as this one:

 Is cold fusion natural?

 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/12/is-cold-fusion-natural-essay-in.html

 Actually who will care when it will be a genuine energy
 source? Natural is very popular, cold fusion is only for us
 but perhaps the question(s) will do some good for solving some
 problems.
 Peter

 --
 Dr. Peter Gluck
 Cluj, Romania
 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com




[Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
The following You Tube clip is heavily steeped in Judeo Christian holiday
tradition. We witness a pre-planned and a well edited You tube Christmas
Flash Mob happening. Nevertheless, while watching this clip... this flash
mall happening if you will, it made me wonder if we might be watching an
inkling of an emergence of Group Mind Consciousness. Is it possible we are
witnessing another gestalt layer of consciousness stirring from its slumber
within our species. Is it beginning to wake up?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Vnt7euRF5Pgvq=medium

 

Does the Collective have any thoughts on the matter?

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

www.OrionWorks.com

www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

 Does the Collective have any thoughts on the matter?

*Childhood's End* is the definitive book on hive mind.  The Overlords are
nursemaids to hatching Uberminds, themselves being never able to unite into
such.  I should re-read it.  I don't recall if simple global communications
played a part.

*Chi*


Re: [Vo]:New publication at EGO OUT

2012-12-09 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jones,

a very interesting idea re nickel minnes and isotopic anomalies.Recently I
have translated an well written paper about Oklo- about Paul Kuroda
the nuclear chemist who has predicted Oklo.
Let's hope that Defkailon will offer us a kind of isotopic symphony when
the will work full steam at Vancouver.This will be an essential
contribution to understanding how useful CF works..
Peter

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  Peter,

 ** **

 There is a provocative analogy of LENR to fission (in the context of the
 Oklo natural fission site):

 ** **

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor

 ** **

 But it is non-obvious, and yet it suggests that there could indeed be a
 “natural LENR” on Earth. 

 ** **

 Don’t laugh – I am completely serious. Perhaps you were a bit too timid to
 go there J

 ** **

 If you take the metaphor of Oklo even further, the place on earth where
 one would look for a similar anomaly is nickel mines. What would one look
 for? That part is simple: isotope anomalies. 

 ** **

 This assumes that nickel LENR is a novel reaction with hydrogen that
 results in isotopic changes. There are other possibilities to look for –
 but for now, let’s stick with this one.

 ** **

 As fate would have it – in doing a cursory search (Bing, instead of
 Google, nowadays) it turns out that the nickel in most meteorites is
 “neutron-poor” isotopically compared to natural nickel on earth. However,
 nickel mines on earth usually have, as their source of rich ore – large and
 ancient meteorite  impact sites. Sudbury in Ontario is a case in point. Yet
 the nickel there is NOT neutron poor.

 ** **

 The authors in the paper below make an assumption the earth’s nickel is
 the baseline standard for isotope distribution. However, if we start from a
 different premise and assume that millions of years ago, earthly nickel
 began to slowly change isotopically, due to hydrogen interaction ala LENR
 then you come to a surprising conclusion. BTW - hydrogen can come from
 either H2O seepage in mines or from the solar wind. 

 ** **

 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2012/pdf/2354.pdf

 ** **

 Could earthly nickel have changed slight over the millennia … and
 meteorites we find from later date actually be the correct baseline? Maybe,
 but not an ounce of proof for that contention so far – however, the
 possibility cannot be ignored. That specific scenario for heavier nickel
 would be that over time, the neutron rich isotopes are transmuted via
 “virtual neutrons” on earth, but in a novel reaction that does not change
 the z (to copper, although some of the time it does).

 ** **

 Virtual neutrons, in this case, are the result of fractional hydrogen f/H
 – which is hydrogen going into a deeply redundant ground state where it
 becomes “energy poor” and then finally is adsorbed as a virtual neutron,
 not a proton (as in W-L). An example would be 60Ni - 61Ni but in the sense
 of a novel reaction, which goes no further. No subsequent beta decay.

 ** **

 Of course, the bulk of neutron changes which we know about do involve a
 later beta decay, but in this case, the f/H probably arrives from the solar
 wind where it is already “energy-depleted” having given up EUV energy in
 the solar corona in the way that Randell Mills has suggested.

 ** **

 Jones

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* Peter Gluck 

 ** **

 Is cold fusion natural?


 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/12/is-cold-fusion-natural-essay-in.html
 

 ** **

 Actually who will care when it will be a genuine energy 

 source? Natural is very popular, cold fusion is only for us

 but perhaps the question(s) will do some good for solving some

 problems.

 Peter

 ** **

 --
 Dr. Peter Gluck

 Cluj, Romania

 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

 ** **




-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:New publication at EGO OUT

2012-12-09 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Axil,
LENR is a technology and not a science- is abright formulation that will
make many of our colleagues unhappy. Theywant at any price: Science first!
Peter

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Similar to superconductivity and electronics, LENR is a quantum
 mechanical(QM) based technology. The QM way of thinking is unnatural to the
 common man to say the least and to many who seek to understand LENR, but it
 will become natural and in fact self-evident to those experts trained in
 the QM arts.

 LENR is a technology and not a science. Until the LENR engineers discover
 the QM principles that underlie LENR in its many manifestations and guises,
 this subject will remain unnatural to them.

 Cheers:Axil


 On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.comwrote:

 My dear Friends,

 Before asking is cold fusion working well?
 lt's the time for other questions as this one:

 Is cold fusion natural?

 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/12/is-cold-fusion-natural-essay-in.html

 Actually who will care when it will be a genuine energy
 source? Natural is very popular, cold fusion is only for us
 but perhaps the question(s) will do some good for solving some
 problems.
 Peter

 --
 Dr. Peter Gluck
 Cluj, Romania
 http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com





-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
The best evidence for hive minds are in hives -- bee hives and ant
colonies. Among larger animals, the best evidence is in the coordinated
movement of schools of fish and flocks of birds. Here is an astounding
video of starling flocks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH-groCeKbE

Despite this, I doubt that birds or fish have any extrasensory
communication. I suppose they communicate by ordinary senses, and they
signal by sound or movement. However, their ability to respond with speed
and precision to signals from others members of the flock is astounding.
Like many other biological phenomena, it seems almost supernatural.

- Jed


[Vo]:Celani's cell did NOT vary with pressure!

2012-12-09 Thread Harry Veeder
Celani's cell did NOT vary with pressure!

 on 08 December 2012.


Dear world,

We have an admission and an apology to make, on the upside, some very
important developments have occurred as a result.

When we first started seeing a correlation of sorts between Pxs and
Pressure in the US cell, I asked for this to be investigated more
deeply and Malachi, Ryan and the team did fantastic further work and
analysis showing a potentially challenging finding. We are going to
investigate this further and have made extra calibrations in US and EU
cells to do exactly that moving forward.

What we did not say was that Celani had already been challenged at NI
week and ICCF17 and subsequently on this exact potential issue and had
carried out specific experiments to test for a measurable effect and
reported back to his critics his findings which did not, in his cell,
show the kind of relationship have seen. We had received this email a
little after the 7th October 2012, but in the pressures of everything
had simply forgotten about it, in hindsight, it was probably the
reason we pushed for the investigation. Having said that, we were not
given permission to share emails between MFMP and Celani openly, had
we been able to then the community watching our journey would have
surely reminded us.

-- continues --
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/171-celani-did-not-see-that-effect



Re: [Vo]:Celani's cell did NOT vary with pressure!

2012-12-09 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
As the comments on the posting suggest, it seems (in hindsight) a mistake
that MFMP chose to accept Celani's recommendation of building the cell from
quartz for safety reasons. The safety issues could have been addressed with
additional shielding and the only consequence would have been modest
inconvenience in working around the lab setup.

A corollary is that everything I've ever heard about Celani makes me think
he is a really wonderful man. He must have guessed the change would
complicated matters but he still put the safety of experiments first even
at a critical juncture. I admire him very much and I wish I could meet him.

Jeff


On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Celani's cell did NOT vary with pressure!

  on 08 December 2012.


 Dear world,

 We have an admission and an apology to make, on the upside, some very
 important developments have occurred as a result.

 When we first started seeing a correlation of sorts between Pxs and
 Pressure in the US cell, I asked for this to be investigated more
 deeply and Malachi, Ryan and the team did fantastic further work and
 analysis showing a potentially challenging finding. We are going to
 investigate this further and have made extra calibrations in US and EU
 cells to do exactly that moving forward.

 What we did not say was that Celani had already been challenged at NI
 week and ICCF17 and subsequently on this exact potential issue and had
 carried out specific experiments to test for a measurable effect and
 reported back to his critics his findings which did not, in his cell,
 show the kind of relationship have seen. We had received this email a
 little after the 7th October 2012, but in the pressures of everything
 had simply forgotten about it, in hindsight, it was probably the
 reason we pushed for the investigation. Having said that, we were not
 given permission to share emails between MFMP and Celani openly, had
 we been able to then the community watching our journey would have
 surely reminded us.

 -- continues --

 http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/171-celani-did-not-see-that-effect




Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread Rob Dingemans

Hi,

Very interesting video, it more or less proves my principle that Energy 
is equivalent to Communication.

Hence the OT is definitely NOT OT !!!

On 9-12-2012 18:45, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:

Does the Collective have any thoughts on the matter?


Or as the Borg used to say resistance is futile you will be 
assimilated ???


Happy X-mas,

Rob




RE: [Vo]:(Video) Iwamura presents LENR transmutations at Nov ANS

2012-12-09 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
NOTE that this presentation was about transmutation, not the excess energy
aspect of LENR.
Dr. Iwamura is with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, which has an interest in
radioactive remediation of nuclear fuel; this particular presentation
focused on the transmutation of Cs and Ba isotopes into Pr and Sm.

I was more interested in hearing the QnA session, and who was asking
questions...
Of those I could hear and understand, questions were posed by the Aerospace
Corporation and Bradley Engineering.

The man from Aerospace Corp complemented Iwamura on his presentation... he
indicated that as the presentation was made he was formulating questions,
and by the end of the presentation all those Qs were answered except one,
which he said was rare.

It is good to see people from the private sector (not govt/academia) showing
an interest in LENR work...

-Mark Iverson 

-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:12 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:(Video) Iwamura presents LENR transmutations at Nov ANS

(Video)
2012 - Yasuhiro Iwamura Presentation at American Nuclear Society Meeting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VefCEaLAkRwfeature=youtu.be





Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:42:32 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
However, their ability to respond with speed
and precision to signals from others members of the flock is astounding.
Like many other biological phenomena, it seems almost supernatural.

..they only need to follow the bird in front of them, while keeping their
position to the right or left behind, as the case may be. This way the motion of
the flock leader propagates back through the flock.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread James Bowery
The (Eu)Social Conquest of
Earthhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/books/review/the-social-conquest-of-earth-by-edward-o-wilson.html?pagewanted=all

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:

  Hi,

 Very interesting video, it more or less proves my principle that Energy
 is equivalent to Communication.
 Hence the OT is definitely NOT OT !!!


 On 9-12-2012 18:45, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:

 Does the Collective have any thoughts on the matter?


 Or as the Borg used to say resistance is futile you will be assimilated
 ???

 Happy X-mas,

 Rob





Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:


 ..they only need to follow the bird in front of them, while keeping their
 position to the right or left behind, as the case may be. This way the
 motion of
 the flock leader propagates back through the flock.


Except there is no leader.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Robin sez:

 

 ..they only need to follow the bird in front of

 them, while keeping their position to the right or

 left behind, as the case may be. This way the motion

 of the flock leader propagates back through the

 flock.

 

Jed sez:

 

 Except there is no leader.

 

Indeed! Jed has hit it on the nail.

 

For those who are still curious about this behavior, take a closer look at
some of the individual birds within these gargantuan flocks as they swirl
and morph about in the air. Whomever we might presume are the dominant
leader birds, their leadership is quickly rendered irrelevant seconds
later as the entire flock changes direction. There must be some other kind
of universal behavioral patters perceived within the each and every single
starling that is more likely responsible for managing this collective
behavior we perceive within the flock.

 

Sometime ago researchers tried to develop accurate computer simulations of
Slime Mould behavior. Initially all of their computer algorithms assumed
there had to be a collection of dominant mold cells that must be directing
the behavior of all the rest of the mold cells. Eventually, they discovered
they had made an incorrect assumption. All they really needed to do was
program in a few simple behavioral rules into each and every slime mould.
One that was done they were able to better model the intricate web-like
patterns slime mold make.

 

What interesting about this emergent behavior is the fact that it is thought
that the nerve cells comprising our complex brains also follow a collection
of simple behavior rules. All the nerves cells in our brains, collectively,
appear to manifest the same kind of emergent behavior that ends up giving us
a sense of our own individuality and autonomy.

 

A philosophical question we might wish to ponder is: Does every single nerve
cell within our own brains possess a unique sense of consciousness, their
own self awareness? I vote yes, they probably do however fundamental or
elemental it might seem from our perspective. I'm inferring that our sense
of self-awareness is actually the manifestation of a collective hive mind
derived from the collective activity of all our nerve cells working together
as a unit - as a brain. And if that is the case, why stop with our own
brains as being at the exalted top of the food chain of consciousness?
Perhaps there is no end to the pyramid of consciousness, or self-awareness.
Evolution will find a way.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

www.OrionWorks.com

www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 06:17 PM 12/8/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
The problem is that I have an Am-241 source which is a sheet of 
metal (steel?) with a circular ridge welded onto it. The Am-241 is 
in the well formed by the ridge. So if I place the beryllium on top 
of the ridge, it will be elevated from the source by ... okay, damn 
it! I'll go find the durn thing and measure it.


Use a  Americium 241 button to get around the spacing issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_KqY81EmAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_KqY81EmA


A closer look at the Americium 241 button from a smoke detector.


I have two buttons, but don't know what happened to the first, so 
another smoke detector had to die.


The buttons looked a bit different.

The Americium 241 button seems to be a standard product found in a 
large verity of smoke detectors.


My guess is that someone sells these. But a major smoke detector 
manufacturer may well make their own.



The design of the smoke detector must be radiation failsafe

The button is small but powerful. Use more than one button to 
increase alpha intensity by stacking them on each other.


Well, think about it, Axil. The button is a circular piece of metal, 
probably steel. It has a well in it, shallow, as I described. At the 
bottom of the well, there is what looks like, under magnification, 
some kind of smear of something. It would be americium oxide, which 
is insoluble. You can swallow this stuff, apparently without harm, 
because it does not dissolve with stomach acides. This would be 0.9 
microcurie of Am-241, which is really tiny. That amount should 
produce about 2.2 million disintegrations per minute. But half of 
those would have a trajectory not out of the button, but into the 
well. These will be absorbed.


There is no way to increase alpha intensity by stacking them, 
except maybe to stack *two*, well to well, in which case there would 
be double the intensity, but it would be rather useless. Half would 
have a track one way and half the other. Alphas will not penetrate a 
piece of paper, and I'm surprised that the penetration for air is as 
much as 4 cm for 5.5 MeV alphas, i.e., from Am-241. I have not 
attempted to separate the button from the small piece of sheet metal 
that it is mounted on. I suppose that if I did, I could arrange some 
well so that the beams intersected, but the alpha intensity would 
be reduced from distance, I'm not at all sure I'd gain anything. I'd 
rather have a strongly anisotropic source.


I imagine that the neutrons will remain anisotropic, more likely to 
exit the other side of the piece of beryllium, which is what I want.



Only trying to help:axil


Of course, Axil, thanks.



Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread James Bowery
Ah, to relive the triumphant creation of the multicellular sexual
organism's love/death with our own individual sexual being ultimately
sacrificed on that most ineffable alter!

Let the zombie apocalypse join us in perfect harmony, a planet with one
mind!

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:48 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

 Robin sez:

 ** **

  ..they only need to follow the bird in front of

  them, while keeping their position to the right or

  left behind, as the case may be. This way the motion

  of the flock leader propagates back through the

  flock.

 ** **

 Jed sez:

 ** **

  Except there is no leader.

 ** **

 Indeed! Jed has hit it on the nail.

 ** **

 For those who are still curious about this behavior, take a closer look at
 some of the individual birds within these gargantuan flocks as they swirl
 and morph about in the air. Whomever we might presume are the dominant
 leader birds, their leadership is quickly rendered irrelevant seconds
 later as the entire flock changes direction. There must be some other kind
 of universal behavioral patters perceived within the each and every single
 starling that is more likely responsible for managing this collective
 behavior we perceive within the flock.

 ** **

 Sometime ago researchers tried to develop accurate computer simulations of
 Slime Mould behavior. Initially all of their computer algorithms assumed
 there had to be a collection of dominant mold cells that must be
 directing the behavior of all the rest of the mold cells. Eventually, they
 discovered they had made an incorrect assumption. All they really needed to
 do was program in a few simple behavioral rules into each and every slime
 mould. One that was done they were able to better model the intricate
 web-like patterns slime mold make.

 ** **

 What interesting about this *emergent behavior* is the fact that it is
 thought that the nerve cells comprising our complex brains also follow a
 collection of simple behavior rules. All the nerves cells in our brains,
 collectively, appear to manifest the same kind of *emergent behavior*that 
 ends up giving us a sense of our own individuality and autonomy.
 

 ** **

 A philosophical question we might wish to ponder is: Does every single
 nerve cell within our own brains possess a unique sense of consciousness,
 their own “self” awareness? I vote yes, they probably do however
 fundamental or elemental it might seem from our perspective. I’m inferring
 that our sense of self-awareness is actually the manifestation of a 
 *collective
 hive mind* derived from the collective activity of all our nerve cells
 working together as a unit – as a brain. And if that is the case, why stop
 with our own brains as being at the exalted top of the food chain of
 consciousness? Perhaps there is no end to the pyramid of consciousness, or
 self-awareness. Evolution will find a way.

 ** **

 Regards,

 Steven Vincent Johnson

 www.OrionWorks.com

 www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:

Well, think about it, Axil. The button is a circular piece of metal,
 probably steel. It has a well in it, shallow, as I described. At the bottom
 of the well, there is what looks like, under magnification, some kind of
 smear of something. It would be americium oxide, which is insoluble. You
 can swallow this stuff, apparently without harm, because it does not
 dissolve with stomach acides. This would be 0.9 microcurie of Am-241, which
 is really tiny.


I think a danger with alpha sources is inhaling them in powdered form or
when they are deposited on airborne dust or vapor, such that they become
lodged in the lungs.  Also, americium seeks bone if it enters the blood,
where it remains for a long time [1].

Eric

[1] http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp156.pdf


Re: [Vo]:OT (Holiday Spirit): Christmas Flash Mob... or Group Mind occasionally waking up?

2012-12-09 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 9 Dec 2012 16:46:15 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:


 ..they only need to follow the bird in front of them, while keeping their
 position to the right or left behind, as the case may be. This way the
 motion of
 the flock leader propagates back through the flock.


Except there is no leader.

- Jed


Another possibility is that each bird tries to get as close to the center of the
flock as possible (i.e. as far from the edge as possible). Those on the edge are
more likely to be attacked by predators. 
However there is clearly some degree of following occurring, which can clearly
be seen when a wave passes through the flock as they change direction.
In either case, it's obvious that each bird takes it's queues from the others in
one way or another, otherwise there would be no flock at all.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



[Vo]:differential scanning calorimetry

2012-12-09 Thread Eric Walker
One of the commenters on a blog post at the MFMP suggested making use of
differential scanning calorimetry [1,2].This is the first time I've
heard of it.  Can anyone comment on how it compares or relates to
isoperibolic and flow calorimetry, and what the pros and cons of using it
are?

Eric


[1]
http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/follow/173-calibration-data-for-ox-wire-shows-interesting-behaviour#comment-1054
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_scanning_calorimetry