Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Alain Sepeda
I have physicist in my family,
and I know how the priest treat the cookers.

Question is not whether all are so, but nice and honest people have usually
less power and voice in debate compared to nasty egotic personalities.


2013/10/17 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com

 Baudette's claim that the problem was primarily one of difference in
 scientific protocol between chemistry and physics must be respected given
 the depth of his research, however, he, himself, points to events like
 Oriani's rejection by the American editors of Nature early in 1990 as
 pivotal -- and I just can't believe that scientific protocol in physics
 demanded that kind of behavior.  He should be confronted with that
 contradiction.


 On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:


 Thank you James. I would love to talk with Charles Beaudette and I will
 try to do that.

 He was at ICCF-18 and I wanted to talk with him, but unfortunately, since
 we ended up filming the entire set of lectures, the interviews were
 severely impacted.



 On 10/16/13 5:13 PM, James Bowery wrote:

 Hopefully you'll consult with Baudette.


 On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:


 Here is a review of The Believers that I wrote:
 http://coldfusionnow.org/marvin-hawkins-i-will-defend-them-at-every-turn/

 I found the use of Martin Fleischmann in a private medical situation
 disturbing, among other elements.

 Over the next year, Eli and I are making a documentary on the field that
 will go deeper into why cold fusion was rejected, and more importantly,
 show the successes that have come since.

 We have several interviews from ICCF-18 and GlobalBEM, so far.  We'll be
 visiting some labs and resuming filming after the New Year.  It will be a
 feature film to be submitted to festivals, and further awareness the way
 Believers couldn't.

 Ruby


 --
 Ruby Carat
 r...@coldfusionnow.org
 Skype ruby-carat
 www.coldfusionnow.org





Re: [Vo]:MFMP Hypothesis: Celani Wire Splits Hydrogen

2013-10-17 Thread Terry Blanton
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/la00059a022


Re: [Vo]:MFMP Hypothesis: Celani Wire Splits Hydrogen

2013-10-17 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil,
Well said, I like the combination of “plasmon-induced 
dissociation of H2 on Au” and “As a byproduct of the polariton lifecycle, an 
irregular metal surface will produce high energy electrons through this 
nanoplasmonic mechanism” , IMHO the “irregular metal surface” is of rigid 
casimir geometry which resonates through a range of different geometries 
causing a constant change in casimir force in a confined area while the 
hydrogen atoms in this area are still locally subject to the random motion of 
gas law. I would assume a similar plasmon induced disassociation of H2 on Ni 
with irregular surface geometry be it powder, tubules or skeletal catalysts. I 
have always drawn a line between this phenomena and the Langmuir atomic welder 
–  somewhere I read he was aware of the heat anomaly and advised not to pursue 
it further but he still took advantage of the thermal advantage for welding 
metals with higher melting temperatures thru the boost of reassociating 
hydrogen. I don’t think Langmuir was causing nuclear reactions so much as 
creating an environment that discounts the disassociation threshold below the 
energy released when these atoms recombine.. an HUP or Maxwellian trap that 
exploits random motion in a confined space on the surface of the tungsten 
electrodes.. a very primitive, less confined trap that is over driven by 
electrical arcs to simply concentrate heat for the purpose of melting high 
temperature metals. I think Rossi is still using the same ingredients but with 
better confinement.
Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:13 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:MFMP Hypothesis: Celani Wire Splits Hydrogen

http://phys.org/news/2012-12-hot-electrons-impossible-catalytic-chemistry.html

Hot electrons do the impossible in catalytic chemistry


The incoming laser light optically excites surface 
plasmonshttp://phys.org/tags/surface+plasmons/ on the metal 
surfacehttp://phys.org/tags/metal+surface/, and the plasmons then decay into 
hot electronshttp://phys.org/tags/hot+electrons/. Because of their high 
energies, the hot electrons extend further away from the nanoparticles than 
electrons with lower energies do. If another atom or molecule that can accept 
the electron is nearby, the hot electron can transfer into that acceptor's 
electronic states.

In these experiments, the researchers adsorbed H2 molecules on the gold 
nanoparticle surface, a procedure that is commonly performed in heterogeneous 
catalysishttp://phys.org/tags/heterogeneous+catalysis/, in which the adsorbed 
molecules act as reactantshttp://phys.org/tags/reactants/. The researchers 
found, as the main result of their study, that some of the hot electrons could 
transfer into the closed shells of the H2 molecules and cause the two hydrogen 
atomshttp://phys.org/tags/hydrogen+atoms/ to separate, or dissociate. This 
process, called plasmon-induced dissociation of H2 on Au, could improve the 
efficiency of certain chemical 
reactionshttp://phys.org/tags/chemical+reactions/.



As a byproduct of the polariton lifecycle, an irregular metal surface will 
produce high energy electrons through this nanoplasmonic mechanism.


Read more at: 
http://phys.org/news/2012-12-hot-electrons-impossible-catalytic-chemistry.html#jCp

On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
kevmol...@gmail.commailto:kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect this is the key.  42% better absorption into the metal matrix.  If 
it's a surface effect, then why would higher absorption into the bulk create 
more reliable excess heat events  reactions?

On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
kevmol...@gmail.commailto:kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jcp/101/12/10.1063/1.467850

Direct reaction of gas‐phase atomic hydrogen with chemisorbed hydrogen on 
Ru(001)
T. A. 
Jachimowskihttp://scitation.aip.org/content/contributor/AU0666706;jsessionid=35ucjlhs7rg8q.x-aip-live-031
 and W. H. 
Weinberghttp://scitation.aip.org/content/contributor/AU0332482;jsessionid=35ucjlhs7rg8q.x-aip-live-031
View Affiliations
J. Chem. Phys. 101, 10997 (1994); http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.467850


The adsorption of gas‐phase atomic hydrogen on the Ru(001) surface results in a 
saturation coverage of 1.42 hydrogen adatoms per primitive surface unit cell, 
which may be compared with a saturation coverage of one hydrogen adatom per 
primitive surface unit cell in the case of dissociative chemisorption of 
molecular hydrogen. The observed saturation fractional coverage of 1.42 results 
from a steady‐state balance of adsorption of gas‐phase atomic hydrogen and 
reaction of gas‐phase hydrogen with chemisorbed hydrogen adatoms, which 
produces molecular hydrogen that desorbs from the surface at a temperature at 
least 150 K below the temperature of recombinative desorption of two hydrogen 
adatoms. The cross section of this direct reaction of hydrogen was found to be 

Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Deciding why CF was rejected is difficult because so many variables  
apply and each person only experienced part of the process. To start  
the evaluation, the basic reasons need to be acknowledged. Once the  
reasons are available, their importance needs to be determined. The  
importance of each would be different to different people at the time.  
For example, an academic would find the conflict with theory important  
while a politician would consider the threat to an industry more  
important. So, the reason for rejection will depend on which person  
you ask.


Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found  
reasons to reject. The rejection grew because certain high-profile  
laboratories could not make the effect work easily. Granted, many of  
the efforts were done with no expectation it would work while using  
sloppy technique. However, if the studies had been successful, all the  
reasons for rejection would have disappeared.


When it worked on occasion, I found these successes were generally  
ignored. They were ignored locally at the laboratories where the  
studies were made and later by the DOE panel. You might ask why  
success was ignored.


I can suggest three main reasons were used by normally rational,  
honest, and educated men to modify what they believed.


1. The claim conflicted with known and expected behavior based on hot  
fusion.  People assumed CF and HF were the same phenomenon. Some  
people still have this belief.


2. The claim, if real, would eliminate the need for hot fusion. This  
caused everyone supported by HF to band together to reject CF.


3. The claim, if real, would threaten all industries based on  
conventional energy. This caused every one at high level in government  
who are loyal to these industries to band together against CF.


Based on these reasons, the media was used by the organizations that  
have this influence to focus the opinions of unthinking people by  
creating the myth we see today. These same people saw to it that the  
patent office did not grant patents and that the government did not  
grant financial support.  In short, the system that controls what we  
believe and what path the US follows came together to stop CF. From  
then on, whatever reason that worked was used, much like how the Iraq  
war was justified. The truth no longer mattered.


In addition, the irrationally that lurks below the surface in the US  
was released and focused on Fleischmann  and Pons. They both had to  
leave the US to find peace and safety in other countries. We see this  
irrationally coming to the surface again, but now the issue is economic.


In sort, the experience with CF reveals a condition in society well  
beyond the scientific issue.





On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Ruby wrote:



Hmm, I will have to look into this that you are describing.  I can  
see how both issues could relate.


My thesis so far is that it was the MIT and Caltech negative results  
which most influenced the APS, Nature magazine, the DoE report, and  
subsequently the USPTO.  Both public and private investment were  
nixed.


Those were the pivotal actions, or figures, that expressed the  
rejection.  But the ground was, as it always is, the powerful draw  
of an existing paradigm.


As the premier science institutions, MIT and Caltech had (have) the  
power to sway policy, and they did.  Their attitudes, and hasty  
experiments, operated from a particular scientific paradigm where,   
Everything [they] knew as a physicist, ...everything [they] knew  
about nuclear theory (-Glenn Seaborg), told them cold fusion was  
impossible.


Some people can only go so far.


On 10/16/13 5:51 PM, James Bowery wrote:
Baudette's claim that the problem was primarily one of difference  
in scientific protocol between chemistry and physics must be  
respected given the depth of his research, however, he, himself,  
points to events like Oriani's rejection by the American editors of  
Nature early in 1990 as pivotal -- and I just can't believe that  
scientific protocol in physics demanded that kind of behavior.  He  
should be confronted with that contradiction.



On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:

Thank you James. I would love to talk with Charles Beaudette and I  
will try to do that.


He was at ICCF-18 and I wanted to talk with him, but unfortunately,  
since we ended up filming the entire set of lectures, the  
interviews were severely impacted.





--
Ruby Carat
r...@coldfusionnow.org
Skype ruby-carat
www.coldfusionnow.org





Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:


 Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found
 reasons to reject.


Some of them were standing by, nursing a grudge, waiting to speak out in
public. Especially the MIT plasma fusion group. That's what Gene Mallove
said. They hated it from the moment they heard about it, and they began
scheming to discredit it. They succeeded!

This happened with other discoveries such as the laser.


When it worked on occasion, I found these successes were generally ignored.
 They were ignored locally at the laboratories where the studies were made
 and later by the DOE panel.


This often happens. There are countless examples in history.



 I can suggest three main reasons were used by normally rational, honest,
 and educated men to modify what they believed.

 1. The claim conflicted with known and expected behavior based on hot
 fusion.  People assumed CF and HF were the same phenomenon. Some people
 still have this belief. . . .


I agree with these three main reasons. I would add a fourth reason: human
nature. Most people reject most novel ideas out of instinct. People fear
novelty. They fear the unknown; that is, unknown places, sights, smells and
other stimuli. This is instinct. It is a product of evolution. There is a
countervailing instinct explore the unknown. The two instincts are at war
with one another. Some people are more inclined to fear, other to explore.
You can observe the same push-pull fear and attraction in other species. In
the 1970s in Japan I took part in studies in which we measured these
effects in guppies, and in Japanese ground squirrels.

This was masterfully described by Francis Bacon:

The human understanding, when any preposition has been once laid down,
(either from general admission and belief, or from the pleasure it
affords,) forces every thing else to add fresh support and confirmation;
and although more cogent and abundant instances may exist to the contrary,
yet either does not observe or despises them, or gets rid of and rejects
them by some distinction, with violent and injurious prejudice, rather than
sacrifice the authority of its first conclusions.

- Novum Organum, 1620


And by William Trotter:

If we watch ourselves honestly we shall often find that we have begun
to argue against a new idea even before it has been completely stated.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree, Jed, with your description of human nature. I see this same  
behavior being applied by people even within the CF field. You would  
think they would not be prone to this behavior. But, as you note,  
humans are the same no matter the subject. Perhaps, this behavior is  
beneficial because it slows progress enough for people to adjust.  
Present progress, thanks to the computer that does not suffer from  
this limitation, is starting to exceed the ability of many people to  
adjust. This failure to adjust does not give optimism about the future.


Ed
On Oct 17, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:


Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found  
reasons to reject.


Some of them were standing by, nursing a grudge, waiting to speak  
out in public. Especially the MIT plasma fusion group. That's what  
Gene Mallove said. They hated it from the moment they heard about  
it, and they began scheming to discredit it. They succeeded!


This happened with other discoveries such as the laser.


When it worked on occasion, I found these successes were generally  
ignored. They were ignored locally at the laboratories where the  
studies were made and later by the DOE panel.


This often happens. There are countless examples in history.


I can suggest three main reasons were used by normally rational,  
honest, and educated men to modify what they believed.


1. The claim conflicted with known and expected behavior based on  
hot fusion.  People assumed CF and HF were the same phenomenon. Some  
people still have this belief. . . .


I agree with these three main reasons. I would add a fourth reason:  
human nature. Most people reject most novel ideas out of instinct.  
People fear novelty. They fear the unknown; that is, unknown places,  
sights, smells and other stimuli. This is instinct. It is a product  
of evolution. There is a countervailing instinct explore the  
unknown. The two instincts are at war with one another. Some people  
are more inclined to fear, other to explore. You can observe the  
same push-pull fear and attraction in other species. In the 1970s in  
Japan I took part in studies in which we measured these effects in  
guppies, and in Japanese ground squirrels.


This was masterfully described by Francis Bacon:

The human understanding, when any preposition has been once laid  
down, (either from general admission and belief, or from the  
pleasure it affords,) forces every thing else to add fresh support  
and confirmation; and although more cogent and abundant instances  
may exist to the contrary, yet either does not observe or despises  
them, or gets rid of and rejects them by some distinction, with  
violent and injurious prejudice, rather than sacrifice the authority  
of its first conclusions.


- Novum Organum, 1620


And by William Trotter:

If we watch ourselves honestly we shall often find that we have  
begun to argue against a new idea even before it has been completely  
stated.


- Jed





Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Alain Sepeda
about human fear of change this join this study
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/111212_creativity.htm

I think that sucess of failure of acceptance of something like LENR, is
partially determined, but hugely chaotic... few details could have make
LENR a success.


2013/10/17 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:


 Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found
 reasons to reject.


 Some of them were standing by, nursing a grudge, waiting to speak out in
 public. Especially the MIT plasma fusion group. That's what Gene Mallove
 said. They hated it from the moment they heard about it, and they began
 scheming to discredit it. They succeeded!

 This happened with other discoveries such as the laser.


 When it worked on occasion, I found these successes were generally
 ignored. They were ignored locally at the laboratories where the studies
 were made and later by the DOE panel.


 This often happens. There are countless examples in history.



 I can suggest three main reasons were used by normally rational, honest,
 and educated men to modify what they believed.

 1. The claim conflicted with known and expected behavior based on hot
 fusion.  People assumed CF and HF were the same phenomenon. Some people
 still have this belief. . . .


 I agree with these three main reasons. I would add a fourth reason: human
 nature. Most people reject most novel ideas out of instinct. People fear
 novelty. They fear the unknown; that is, unknown places, sights, smells and
 other stimuli. This is instinct. It is a product of evolution. There is a
 countervailing instinct explore the unknown. The two instincts are at war
 with one another. Some people are more inclined to fear, other to explore.
 You can observe the same push-pull fear and attraction in other species. In
 the 1970s in Japan I took part in studies in which we measured these
 effects in guppies, and in Japanese ground squirrels.

 This was masterfully described by Francis Bacon:

 The human understanding, when any preposition has been once laid down,
 (either from general admission and belief, or from the pleasure it
 affords,) forces every thing else to add fresh support and confirmation;
 and although more cogent and abundant instances may exist to the contrary,
 yet either does not observe or despises them, or gets rid of and rejects
 them by some distinction, with violent and injurious prejudice, rather than
 sacrifice the authority of its first conclusions.

 - Novum Organum, 1620


 And by William Trotter:

 If we watch ourselves honestly we shall often find that we have begun
 to argue against a new idea even before it has been completely stated.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Edmund Storms
I suggest we are not dealing only with creativity here. What passes  
for new ideas or creative thinking is more often nonsense or insane  
rambling. We are shocked by the rejection only when the idea is later  
found to be correct or is applied in a useful way. Most ideas that  
might be called creative do not reach this level because they are  
based on nonsense.


The challenge is separating the nonsense from what is real early in  
the process of evaluation.  Some ideas get accepted early. Take the  
computer for example. This was introduced into society very rapidly.  
Of course a few people and businesses ignored the idea, but many other  
people accepted the idea because it worked. Gates became a success  
very quickly. The creative ideas introduced by Apple are accepted  
without any rejection because they are obvious to the most  
uneducated.  In fact, the ability to understand and accept new ideas  
is related to education. An uneducated society or person will  
naturally reject complex ideas more often than an educated person.


In the case of CF and many other discoveries, the rejection is based  
on a threat to self interests, which has no relationship to creativity.


Nevertheless, I find the basic ability to accept new ideas is built  
into the individual mind. Some people have this ability and most do  
not, regardless of education. The ability simply comes with the  
package, like ability to speak new languages easily or musical  
ability. These abilities can be enhanced but they can not be created  
if they are not present initially. I suggest this is also true of  
creativity and the ability to accept new ideas.



On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:


about human fear of change this join this study
http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/111212_creativity.htm

I think that sucess of failure of acceptance of something like LENR,  
is partially determined, but hugely chaotic... few details could  
have make LENR a success.



2013/10/17 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found  
reasons to reject.


Some of them were standing by, nursing a grudge, waiting to speak  
out in public. Especially the MIT plasma fusion group. That's what  
Gene Mallove said. They hated it from the moment they heard about  
it, and they began scheming to discredit it. They succeeded!


This happened with other discoveries such as the laser.


When it worked on occasion, I found these successes were generally  
ignored. They were ignored locally at the laboratories where the  
studies were made and later by the DOE panel.


This often happens. There are countless examples in history.


I can suggest three main reasons were used by normally rational,  
honest, and educated men to modify what they believed.


1. The claim conflicted with known and expected behavior based on  
hot fusion.  People assumed CF and HF were the same phenomenon. Some  
people still have this belief. . . .


I agree with these three main reasons. I would add a fourth reason:  
human nature. Most people reject most novel ideas out of instinct.  
People fear novelty. They fear the unknown; that is, unknown places,  
sights, smells and other stimuli. This is instinct. It is a product  
of evolution. There is a countervailing instinct explore the  
unknown. The two instincts are at war with one another. Some people  
are more inclined to fear, other to explore. You can observe the  
same push-pull fear and attraction in other species. In the 1970s in  
Japan I took part in studies in which we measured these effects in  
guppies, and in Japanese ground squirrels.


This was masterfully described by Francis Bacon:

The human understanding, when any preposition has been once laid  
down, (either from general admission and belief, or from the  
pleasure it affords,) forces every thing else to add fresh support  
and confirmation; and although more cogent and abundant instances  
may exist to the contrary, yet either does not observe or despises  
them, or gets rid of and rejects them by some distinction, with  
violent and injurious prejudice, rather than sacrifice the authority  
of its first conclusions.


- Novum Organum, 1620


And by William Trotter:

If we watch ourselves honestly we shall often find that we have  
begun to argue against a new idea even before it has been completely  
stated.


- Jed






Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread Axil Axil
The challenge in understanding LENR and its eventual acceptance by
mainstream science is that it is driven by a zoo of complex interacting
quantum mechanical phenomena.  In order to make any progress in LENR,
original and out-of-the-box experimental techniques are required to provide
a reliable conceptual benchmark for understanding LENR.

Fortunately, many of these techniques have been developed over more than 40
years since 1974 in the study of Nanoplasmonics.


Using Nanoplasmonics as an experimental template, the challenge is
separating the nonsense imposed by our common sense from what is quantum
mechanical reality. This baseline is done at the experimental setup phase
in the process of sub-atomic phenomenal evaluation.


The ability to accept new LENR based ideas is built into the experimental
discipline of plasmonics based science.

No more than a few hundred people throughout this world have the required
background to understand what is really going on in LENR.


The ability to properly understand LENR will only come from a comprehensive
study of Nanoplasmonics and its optical and quantum mechanical
underpinnings. This background comes as a complete package and a narrow
specialization, like the ability to speak new Mongolian languages easily or
the ability to play first violin in a symphony orchestra. These abilities
can only come from a huge amount of work and study in a highly focused and
demanding scientific specialty. I suggest that once sufficient talent is
planted on this correct track of study and enlightenment, only then will
substantial progress in LENR be made.





On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 I suggest we are not dealing only with creativity here. What passes for
 new ideas or creative thinking is more often nonsense or insane rambling.
 We are shocked by the rejection only when the idea is later found to be
 correct or is applied in a useful way. Most ideas that might be called
 creative do not reach this level because they are based on nonsense.

 The challenge is separating the nonsense from what is real early in the
 process of evaluation.  Some ideas get accepted early. Take the computer
 for example. This was introduced into society very rapidly. Of course a few
 people and businesses ignored the idea, but many other people accepted the
 idea because it worked. Gates became a success very quickly. The creative
 ideas introduced by Apple are accepted without any rejection because they
 are obvious to the most uneducated.  In fact, the ability to understand and
 accept new ideas is related to education. An uneducated society or person
 will naturally reject complex ideas more often than an educated person.

 In the case of CF and many other discoveries, the rejection is based on a
 threat to self interests, which has no relationship to creativity.

 Nevertheless, I find the basic ability to accept new ideas is built into
 the individual mind. Some people have this ability and most do not,
 regardless of education. The ability simply comes with the package, like
 ability to speak new languages easily or musical ability. These abilities
 can be enhanced but they can not be created if they are not present
 initially. I suggest this is also true of creativity and the ability to
 accept new ideas.



 On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:

 about human fear of change this join this study
 http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/111212_creativity.htm

 I think that sucess of failure of acceptance of something like LENR, is
 partially determined, but hugely chaotic... few details could have make
 LENR a success.


 2013/10/17 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:


 Initially, the idea was not rejected by many people who later found
 reasons to reject.


 Some of them were standing by, nursing a grudge, waiting to speak out in
 public. Especially the MIT plasma fusion group. That's what Gene Mallove
 said. They hated it from the moment they heard about it, and they began
 scheming to discredit it. They succeeded!

 This happened with other discoveries such as the laser.


 When it worked on occasion, I found these successes were generally
 ignored. They were ignored locally at the laboratories where the studies
 were made and later by the DOE panel.


 This often happens. There are countless examples in history.



 I can suggest three main reasons were used by normally rational, honest,
 and educated men to modify what they believed.

 1. The claim conflicted with known and expected behavior based on hot
 fusion.  People assumed CF and HF were the same phenomenon. Some people
 still have this belief. . . .


 I agree with these three main reasons. I would add a fourth reason: human
 nature. Most people reject most novel ideas out of instinct. People fear
 novelty. They fear the unknown; that is, unknown places, sights, smells and
 other stimuli. This is instinct. It is a product of 

Re: [Vo]:Video The Believers

2013-10-17 Thread James Bowery
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

 ...Perhaps, this behavior is beneficial because it slows progress enough
 for people to adjust. Present progress, thanks to the computer that does
 not suffer from this limitation, is starting to exceed the ability of many
 people to adjust. This failure to adjust does not give optimism about the
 future.


The conservative posture has obvious merits given the real complexity of
any society, let alone the ecology within which society is embedded.
 However, if we are to be consistent, we must recognize that some changes,
such as the introduction of civilization, were profound shocks to which
humans and indeed the
biospherehttp://longnow.org/seminars/02012/apr/20/social-conquest-earth/are
still adjusting.  Nor is it obvious that these changes will
ultimately prove beneficial.  There is rationality in being skeptical of
even this kind of widely-accepted change.

At the other extreme we have the Enlightenment's acceptance of individual
rights to freedom of thought and -- in the form of Protestantism's freedom
of individual association in the formation of diverse sects -- conscience
in _society_.  This extreme acceptance of individually chosen change was
given substance by the New World in its Jeffersonian exemplar of classical
liberalism (which has nothing to do with today's liberal touchstone of
equality of outcome):  The Declaration of Independence.

My long history of taking seriously the potentials of computer networking
and space settlement http://www.oocities.com/jim_bowery/vnatap.html led
me to directly confront the control structures in the media and Washington,
D.C. -- actually shepherding grass-roots legislation into law that banned
NASA from competing with private launch
companieshttp://www.oocities.com/jim_bowery/testimny.htm so
that when the FP phenomenon hit I naturally teamed up with a founder of
the US hot fusion program to legislatively terminate the hot fusion program
and replace it with prize awards for achievement of technical
milestoneshttp://www.oocities.com/jim_bowery/BussardsLetter.html.


This, in turn, forced me to analyze failures in private sector capital
markets that had resulted in technical stagnation and provide policy
recommendations for their
remediationhttp://ota.polyonymo.us/others-papers/NetAssetTax_Bowery.txt.
 After all, I was attacking public funding of technology so I could not
very well ignore the macro-economic policies that were leaving private
sector investment gaps that were used by proponent of public sector
technology programs to justify their social theories.

The end result of this educational process -- a process that has brought me
full circle to the conservative posture that is skeptical of civilization
itself -- has been that I now recognize only one over-riding priority, and
that is to sort proponents of social theories into governments that test
them http://sortocracy.org/.  Only in this way can profound conservatives
coexist with profound liberals and -- in so doing -- not only allow the
Enlightenment to penetrate the social sciences (which would, as a
byproduct, find the social theories that both lead to the most rapid
advances in technology) and preserve the pre-civilization ecologies that we
must preserve lest we become victims of our own hubris.


[Vo]:Chunk of Chelyabinsk meteorite recovered

2013-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/16/chelyabinsk-meteor-russians-lake

I read elsewhere that the meteorite is not particularly interesting. It is
a very common type of meteorite.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Chunk of Chelyabinsk meteorite recovered

2013-10-17 Thread Axil Axil
Astronomers say asteroid might collide with Earth— in 2032

Space watchers from the observatory in the Crimean peninsula said they
discovered an asteroid about 1,345 feet in diameter, which they call 2013
TV135, that is approaching Earth at a potentially dangerous trajectory, RIA
Novosti said.

The astronomers calculated the date of a potential collision as Aug. 26,
2032, the news service said, but they acknowledged that the odds of an
impact as 1 in 63,000.


Read more at:
http://phys.org/news/2013-10-astronomers-asteroid-collide-earth.html#jCp


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 See:


 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/16/chelyabinsk-meteor-russians-lake

 I read elsewhere that the meteorite is not particularly interesting. It is
 a very common type of meteorite.

 - Jed




[Vo]:Guest Editorial by Dr. Stoyan Sarg

2013-10-17 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Readers,

Hundred years from now it will be obvious how deep it was/is the creativity
crisis and productivity crisis of the contemporary theoretical physics and
actually how easy it was to radically change the situation. It will be also
seen then in which extent the very bold ideas of Dr. Stoyan Sarg presented
in his papers, lectures and his 3 books have contributed directly or have
inspired the radical paradigm change to come. The theory is too high level
for a technologist like me but I am very impressed by its boldness and
consistency.

I am honored to publish Stoyan's guest editorial:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/10/about-secret-catalyzer-used-by-andrea.html

Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com