Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

2014-04-10 Thread Axil Axil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_polaritons

Surface plasmon
polaritonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_polaritons,
resulting from coupling of surface
plasmonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmonwith light (the
wavelength depends on the substance and its geometry).

See Types of Polaritons




On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Axil--

 You said:

 When the wavelengths of these two particles are equal, they combine
 together to form a composite waveform.

 Does this composite waveform have a name?

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:26 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

 SPP can be packed together in a volume in unlimited numbers because SPP
 are BOSONS.. This produces a EMF soliton with a huge or unlimited amplitude
 like a laser. In fact, SPP can produce strong laser radiation when the
 quasi-particle breaks up.


 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

  The electron and the photon are particles, but they are waves too. When
 the wavelengths  of these two particles are equal, they combine together to
 form a composite waveform.

 By convention, when thought of as particles, these particles combine into
 quasi- particles. This is why the SPP is said to be a quasi-particle.







Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

2014-04-10 Thread Axil Axil
An electron is always a wave. That is why they can not be pinned to a spot
in space. such a pinning would require infinite energy... The uncertainty
principle.


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Axil--

 If an electron is standing still, is it a wave?  I think it must have some
 kinetic energy to become a wave.   Lambda (l) = h/mv.  If v is 0, l
 goes to infinity.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:26 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

 SPP can be packed together in a volume in unlimited numbers because SPP
 are BOSONS.. This produces a EMF soliton with a huge or unlimited amplitude
 like a laser. In fact, SPP can produce strong laser radiation when the
 quasi-particle breaks up.


 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

  The electron and the photon are particles, but they are waves too. When
 the wavelengths  of these two particles are equal, they combine together to
 form a composite waveform.

 By convention, when thought of as particles, these particles combine into
 quasi- particles. This is why the SPP is said to be a quasi-particle.


 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Axil--

 Why do you say a SPP is a wave--I think of it as a particle--like you
 say a BOSON.  Are  BOSONs  also unlimited in their loquaciousness  as well
 as strength?

 Bob

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

 The Surface plasmon polaritons (SPP) is a hybrid infrared/electron combo
 wave. It has spin and most important ...IT IS A BOSON.. BOSON means
 unlimited strength. That wave based spin produces the anapole magnetic
 field when the SPP forms a soliton in a vortex.


 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Axil Axil--

 You finally have seen the light--the EMF that is.

 I joined this Blog a little over 2 months ago with a  bias that spin
 and magnetism are the keys to LENR.  I have been exposed to a lot of ideas
 and some facts.  I am even more biased now.

 Spin is an energy with a direction and can be controlled by a magnetic
 field.  The magnetic field establishes the amount of energy (via spin) a
 particle can hold and the differential amounts it can give up or take up.
  The old timers thought the energy was akin to a spinning top's energy and
 angular momentum.  I am beginning to think of it as a mini Vortex of a
 magnetic field more or less  locally confined within a volume of space--the
 particle boundary.

 Clarifying what is happening is just a matter of thinking inside the
 boundary.

 Bob

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:05 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention

  Based on the time honored LENR causation concept of charge screening,
 LENR is posited to be an EMF process. Since charge is emergent from spin,
 and spin is the origin on magnetism. therefore.  LENR is a magnetic based
 process at its root.


 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

   On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Ahern seems to believe magnetic effects are at the heart of LENR
 phenomena.


 Each experimentalist and theorist has a pet theory about what is going
 on.  What is important is whether one is able to subjugate one's personal
 hunches to a more objective and systematic pursuit of what is going on.


  He does not think nuclear reactions are involved.


 This should be a warning sign that Dr. Ahern might not be seeing much
 of interest.  What seems clear is that some researchers get very 
 pronounced
 results.

 Eric








RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand.

2014-04-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I like your theory as far as linkage between the nano and micro scale 
using SPP but am not convinced the SPP is the power source. Why does SPP have 
the potential for over unity? Wouldn't it be far likelier that you are setting 
the stage for a self assembled Maxwellian demon to exploit the known HUP 
energies at the end of these hairs? The geometrical confinement being one side 
of the vice and this SPP linkage to the moving ions being the other side it 
accepts and accumulates energy from the gas motion in contradiction to COE 
which claims this energy of gas motion can not be exploited..and admittedly a 
single gas atom in our macro isotropy can not but I am convinced this isotropy 
breaking geometry and your linkage demonstrates the potential for a real world 
demon that self assembles and is the root bootstrap energy that initiates these 
anomalies.
Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:08 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand.


Ahern is correct in stating that the magic particle size is very small; 3 to 
15 nanometers in diameter. This type of particle is the business end of the 
reaction in the same way the sharp tip of an electrode is where the energy of a 
spark is concentrated and amplified.





But other size particles are required to get magnetic field strength up. The 
particle size produce by low melting point metals also must be supplied in the 
size particle mix.





This is what Rossi is producing with his secret sauce addition. Yes, he adds a 
low melting point alkali metal to his reaction as a power amplifier. This type 
particle acts as a step up transformer coil where power is concentrated into a 
high voltage capacitive discharge.





But the most important particle size is the 5 micron particle covered with nano 
hair. This particle is the power house of the reaction. This particle provides 
the receiving antenna for the SPP pumping generated from the mouse component 
of the reactor. You can think of this large particle as the Cat.



The Mouse produces dipole oscillations in the large body of this jumbo particle 
where the SPP are born.  The power produced by this huge particle is feed down 
the nano-hair covering to their sharp tips at tremendous power amplification. 
This dipole power produced in this micro particle feeds the step up power 
amplification process that occurs in the smaller diameter particle assemblages 
down the particle size chain to those magic 2 nanometer particles.





Ahern does not understand this power concentration system and has only seen 
limited magnetic power produce by his particles because of this lack of this 
understanding.










Re: [Vo]:Lewan book

2014-04-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
That's a good sign.   Because the reality is, no one is going to care
whatsoever about Rossi's quirks if he really has what he says he has.  I
think that's what Rossi is thinking too.


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, I have the book. The .mobi version opens automatically with the
 Kindle for PC program.

 This is an accurate and well-written account. It is depressing. I am glad
 Lewan made public many events and people's names, because it means I do not
 keep them secret any more.

 The book harshly criticizes Rossi in places. I am a little surprised that
 Rossi is not upset with Lewan. Rossi has a generous nature at times.

 The history described in this book is depressing, but the present is
 somewhat brighter. I have a good impression of the people in North
 Carolina, Cherokee Investments Partners, who are now working with Rossi. I
 do not know much about them, but I have a good impression. I think Rossi
 likes them, which is essential for success. This is probably the best
 opportunity Rossi can hope for.

 - Jed




[Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2014/04/concentrating-solar-power-under-fire-glaring-planning-oversight-or-easily-remedied-issue

QUOTES

[Clifford Ho of Sandia National Laboratories' Concentrating Solar
Technologies Department says] I believe some of the glare that's being
viewed is taking place when the heliostats are in a standby mode.

During peak daylight hours, it is common for a number of heliostat mirrors
to be taken offline to prevent heliostats from directing more thermal
energy to the turbine than it is capable of receiving. Ho said that during
standby, these heliostats are focused on aim points next to the receiver,
forming a ring of glare above the tower.

According to Ho, the sunlight reflected from heliostats that are in standby
mode could be having an exacerbating effect on the amount of reflection
being emitted.

In examining photos of the glare taken by passengers flying over the
Ivanpah plant, Ho said it's apparent to him the intense light is emanating
from the heliostats not in use. You can clearly see the difference between
what's just the diffuse reflection from the towers versus one or more
heliostats that are in standby mode and reflecting light toward the
observer.

Ho has performed helicopter surveys of heliostats in standby mode at Sandia
National Laboratories' National Solar Thermal Test Facility. It's bright,
he said, emphasizing that the Sandia CSP array is much smaller than that of
Ivanpah. When you're close, it can be like looking into the sun.

. . . One possible solution, as suggested by Ho, is to reposition
heliostats that are in standby mode so that they stand vertically -- thus
reflecting the glare toward the ground instead of upward.


- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
What the Flux?

392 MW generated from steam turbine generators/30% Rankine Efficiency/85%
heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror efficiency = 1700
megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:

 See:


 http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2014/04/concentrating-solar-power-under-fire-glaring-planning-oversight-or-easily-remedied-issue

 QUOTES

 [Clifford Ho of Sandia National Laboratories' Concentrating Solar
 Technologies Department says] I believe some of the glare that's being
 viewed is taking place when the heliostats are in a standby mode.

 During peak daylight hours, it is common for a number of heliostat mirrors
 to be taken offline to prevent heliostats from directing more thermal
 energy to the turbine than it is capable of receiving. Ho said that during
 standby, these heliostats are focused on aim points next to the receiver,
 forming a ring of glare above the tower.

 According to Ho, the sunlight reflected from heliostats that are in
 standby mode could be having an exacerbating effect on the amount of
 reflection being emitted.

 In examining photos of the glare taken by passengers flying over the
 Ivanpah plant, Ho said it's apparent to him the intense light is emanating
 from the heliostats not in use. You can clearly see the difference between
 what's just the diffuse reflection from the towers versus one or more
 heliostats that are in standby mode and reflecting light toward the
 observer.

 Ho has performed helicopter surveys of heliostats in standby mode at
 Sandia National Laboratories' National Solar Thermal Test Facility. It's
 bright, he said, emphasizing that the Sandia CSP array is much smaller
 than that of Ivanpah. When you're close, it can be like looking into the
 sun.

 . . . One possible solution, as suggested by Ho, is to reposition
 heliostats that are in standby mode so that they stand vertically -- thus
 reflecting the glare toward the ground instead of upward.


 - Jed




Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand.

2014-04-10 Thread Axil Axil
 Axil, I like your theory as far as linkage between the nano and micro
 scale using SPP but am not convinced the SPP is the power source.


The power source is dipole motion in the micro-particle. This particle is
sized to be resonant with the operating temperature of the reactor. The
dipole vibrations caused by the ambient temperature of the reactor produces
maximum electron oscillation. This electron motion is an alternating
current that flows back and forth across the micro-particle. The nanowire
provides a 1 dimensional superconducting path for the dipole current to
accumulate at the tip of the nanowire. this super current accumulates
electrons at the nanowire tips in the fractional mega amp range.

Nanowire coating on the surface of the micro-particle is a critical power
concentration mechanism.   This nanowire power concentration  is what makes
LENR+ go.





 Why does SPP have the potential for over unity?


The extreme curvature at the tips of nanowire produces a vortex of SPPs
to develop where the boson nature of the SPP makes possible extreme
concentration of a EMF soliton. This soliton produces a anapole magnetic
field that gets strong enough to produce pions through vacuum breakdown.

Hydrogen rydberg matter is attracted to these nanowire tips that further
increase the EMF power application because of the extreme curvature related
to the very small size of these nanoparticles.

Larger nanoparticles also amplify the EMF concentration of the vortex
formed at and around the tips of the wire in a zero loss dark mode energy
transfer mechanism.


 Wouldn't it be far likelier that you are setting the stage for a self
 assembled Maxwellian demon to exploit the known HUP energies at the end of
 these hairs? The geometrical confinement being one side of the vice and
 this SPP linkage to the moving ions being the other side it accepts and
 accumulates energy from the gas motion in contradiction to COE which claims
 this energy of gas motion can not be exploited..and admittedly a single gas
 atom in our macro isotropy can not but I am convinced this isotropy
 breaking geometry and your linkage demonstrates the potential for a real
 world demon that self assembles and is the root bootstrap energy that
 initiates these anomalies.

 Fran


There is a positive feedback mechanism that takes the gamma energy from the
nuclear fusion of hydrogen present in the Rydberg crystals and adds that to
the energy content of the vortex based soliton at the tips of the nanowire.
 This optical nano-cavity down shifts this gamma energy into the extreme
ultraviolet range and through power reincorporation makes the amplitude of
the SPP soliton and the associated magnetic field produced by the soliton
even stronger over time.



 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:08 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand.



 Ahern is correct in stating that the magic particle size is very small;
 3 to 15 nanometers in diameter. This type of particle is the business end
 of the reaction in the same way the sharp tip of an electrode is where the
 energy of a spark is concentrated and amplified.





 But other size particles are required to get magnetic field strength up.
 The particle size produce by low melting point metals also must be supplied
 in the size particle mix.





 This is what Rossi is producing with his secret sauce addition. Yes, he
 adds a low melting point alkali metal to his reaction as a power amplifier.
 This type particle acts as a step up transformer coil where power is
 concentrated into a high voltage capacitive discharge.





 But the most important particle size is the 5 micron particle covered with
 nano hair. This particle is the power house of the reaction. This particle
 provides the receiving antenna for the SPP pumping generated from the
 mouse component of the reactor. You can think of this large particle as
 the Cat.



 The Mouse produces dipole oscillations in the large body of this jumbo
 particle where the SPP are born.  The power produced by this huge particle
 is feed down the nano-hair covering to their sharp tips at tremendous power
 amplification. This dipole power produced in this micro particle feeds the
 step up power amplification process that occurs in the smaller diameter
 particle assemblages down the particle size chain to those magic 2
 nanometer particles.





 Ahern does not understand this power concentration system and has only
 seen limited magnetic power produce by his particles because of this lack
 of this understanding.











Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:


 Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror
 efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER


Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from
the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight
or in sunlight reflected from glass or water.

I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join
together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight.

I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright.

Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from
coal, gas and nuke plants.

- Jed


[Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research

2014-04-10 Thread H Veeder
放射性廃棄物の無害化に道? 三菱重、実用研究へ

(google translation)

The road to the detoxification of radioactive waste? Mitsubishi Heavy, to
practical research

2014/4/8 7:00

Use the deuterium, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries established the basic
technology of the element conversion to change the type of the element with
less energy. Without a large-scale nuclear reactors and accelerators, for
example cesium was confirmed by experiment and can vary in many
praseodymium element number four. Toward demonstration equipment
installation in the future and into the practical application research.
Converted to harmless non-radioactive elements, the same strontium and
radioactive cesium radioactive waste and those that open the way for
detoxification of, the rush to put to practical use as a primary
manufacturer.

conversion element in a hundred hours

Late March, lecture room of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in
the U.S. Boston. Before researchers of more than 100 people that gathered
from the world, Iwamura Yasuhiro intelligence group length in the
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd., Advanced Technology Research Center was
reported, was confirmed micro parts per million () grams elemental
conversion.Proposal of theory which receives numerous questions, to
explain the experiment that the company also announced a number...

http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASDZ040JJ_X00C14A400/


Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
In high winds, mirrors go to flat position and all of the flux goes
incident and airborne.  Ivanpah is a high wind area.
http://www.nabsa.org

On Thursday, April 10, 2014, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 ChemE Stewart 
 cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');
  wrote:


 Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror
 efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER


 Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from
 the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight
 or in sunlight reflected from glass or water.

 I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join
 together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight.

 I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright.

 Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from
 coal, gas and nuke plants.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research

2014-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ah, thanks. Someone told me about this, but I could not find it with the
Nikkei's search function.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The mirrors would not be focused at one spot when idle.   Also it is a
 good idea to reduce global warming by directing the light back into space
 instead into the ground.


Since it is near an airport I think it would be better to aim for the
ground.

I wonder . . . could you focus them on the parking lot? That would make a
good murder mystery. A jealous lover is the programmer in charge of the
array. Her boyfriend parks his car, walks toward the building . . . He does
not notice the mirrors turning toward him. He vanishes in a puff of smoke.
The mirrors swing back. No trace of the program code or activity log is
found.

Arthur Clarke wrote two short stories along those lines.

- Jed


[Vo]:Fabricating Hydrocarbons

2014-04-10 Thread Terry Blanton
This article represents well how LENR would benefit the Navy.  They're
willing to fabricate fuel from seawater at $6/gal:

http://news.yahoo.com/us-navy-game-changer-converting-seawater-fuel-150544958.html



Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research

2014-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
The second page of this article discusses cold fusion. It includes the
usual blather about how it was mostly not replicated, and how it is
considered no better than alchemy. The article implies Iwamura is trying to
distance himself from cold fusion, which is not true. Then it has a photo
of Prof. Arima visiting the experiment in 2007. Arima is Japan's version of
Robert Park. He denounced cold fusion when it was first reported, and he is
the go-to source for the newspapers when they want a fresh attack. I hope
Iwamura rubbed his nose in the results.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:


 In 1958, the science fiction author Arthur C. Clarke published A
 Slight Case of Sunstroke . . . In the story, a large number of hostile
 spectators aim reflective program covers at the unfortunate umpire,
 who collapses and dies from the concentrated solar energy focused
 where he stood.


He doesn't just collapse and die. It takes place in South America. The
stadium has thousands army troops in the audience. Halfway through the
game, a whistle blows, and the troops all aim their reflective programs at
the ref, who vanishes in a puff of smoke.

The other story is about an astronomer who murders his wife by aiming a
searchlight at her car as she is driving home along the edge of cliff, late
at night.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread David L Babcock
It is a little more complex. There is a distance from the (presumed 
flat) mirror such that the angular extent of the mirror is about the 
same as that of the sun (1/2 deg). From there out the intercepted flux 
decreases, by the square of the distance.


From the birds view, at that distance it sees the whole sun fill the 
mirror. Any farther out the image is bigger than the mirror -only part 
of the sun is supplying heat.


If the mirrors are curved, then each mirror will have a hot focal point, 
but not super hot: again it is limited by the angular extent of the sun 
and the mirror. A ideal mirror will project an image of the sun on the 
boiler (or bird, if at focus), and the intensity is that of sunlight 
multiplied by the square of the ratio of the two angular extents. Maybe 
10 or 20 to 1? WAG here.




As Bob points out, the nimbus effect strongly suggests that the 
designers were aware of a possible problem and made sure mirrors in 
standby don't all point at a single point, or even parallel.


Ol' Bab, who was an engineer.



On 4/10/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Cook wrote:
The mirrors would not be focused at one spot when idle.   Also it is a 
good idea to reduce global warming by directing the light back into 
space instead into the ground.

- Original Message -

*From:* Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:59 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com mailto:cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90%
mirror efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A
GOOD BIRD ZAPPER


Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters
away from the surface of one mirror, it is no different than
flying in full sunlight or in sunlight reflected from glass or water.

I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light
join together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight.

I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright.

Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam
from coal, gas and nuke plants.

- Jed





Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant

2014-04-10 Thread Bob Cook
OlBab--

What kind of engineer were you?

Older Bob?
  - Original Message - 
  From: David L Babcock 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant


  It is a little more complex. There is a distance from the (presumed flat) 
mirror such that the angular extent of the mirror is about the same as that of 
the sun (1/2 deg). From there out the intercepted flux decreases, by the square 
of the distance.

  From the birds view, at that distance it sees the whole sun fill the mirror. 
Any farther out the image is bigger than the mirror -only part of the sun is 
supplying heat.

  If the mirrors are curved, then each mirror will have a hot focal point, but 
not super hot: again it is limited by the angular extent of the sun and the 
mirror. A ideal mirror will project an image of the sun on the boiler (or bird, 
if at focus), and the intensity is that of sunlight multiplied by the square of 
the ratio of the two angular extents. Maybe 10 or 20 to 1? WAG here. 



  As Bob points out, the nimbus effect strongly suggests that the designers 
were aware of a possible problem and made sure mirrors in standby don't all 
point at a single point, or even parallel.

  Ol' Bab, who was an engineer.



  On 4/10/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Cook wrote:

The mirrors would not be focused at one spot when idle.   Also it is a good 
idea to reduce global warming by directing the light back into space instead 
into the ground.  

- Original Message - 
  From: Jed Rothwell 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant


  ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror 
efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER


  Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from 
the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight or 
in sunlight reflected from glass or water.


  I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join 
together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight.


  I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright.


  Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from 
coal, gas and nuke plants.


  - Jed





Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research

2014-04-10 Thread H Veeder
Thanks for the tidbits...google's English translation of Japanese is not
clear.

Harry


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another interesting tidbit: p. 1 says they were awarded a patent in Japan,
 and a patent in Europe in 2013.

 Page 1 also quotes the guy in charge of the research center, Ishide,
 saying that they have made progress in recent years. He says the amount of
 material transmuted has increased from nanogram levels to micrograms; an
 improvement by 3 orders of magnitude . . .

 I think the rest of the technical content can be found in recent papers by
 Iwamura.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

2014-04-10 Thread Alan Fletcher


At 08:37 AM 4/9/2014, Daniel Rocha wrote:
I hope this is the 6 month test
he promised, heh! 
Yes.
Teemu 

April 10th, 2014 at 8:30 AM 
Dear Andrea Rossi,
When you say that the Professors are conducting their work “in a neutral
laboratory”, do you mean they are still in your premises, or instead
situated in a laboratory that is not owned by you?
Best Regards,
Teemu
Andrea Rossi 

April 10th, 2014 at 6:02 PM 
Teemu:
The Professors have worked and are working in a laboratory that is not
owned by us, is totally out of our premises and that we never used
before. We knew of it few days before the beginning of the test and sent
there the E-Cat. It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not
USA. I cannot give further information, but, obviously, the precise
location where the test will have been completed will be described in the
Report that will be written by the Third Indipendent Party. When we
arrived there for the assembling of the reactor, some of the components
of the t.i.p. were already there for the set up.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Koen Vandewalle 

April 10th, 2014 at 6:37 PM 
Dear Andrea,
Supposed that at the beginning of the test, the Professors did discover
that the E-Cat does what is is meant to do. One question that should be
asked: how much energy can produce one E-Cat ? Did you make agreements on
this item ?
And when the answer is that it continues in eternity to “catalyze
energy”, then the test will never be over. A catalyzer is not
consumed….
Did you agree on limits in time or amount of energy ?
Kind Regards,
Koen.
P.S. : the congratulations were not for the results of these tests, but
for the respect that is finally given to your work.
Andrea Rossi 

April 10th, 2014 at 9:20 PM 
Koen Vandewalle:
No, the total endurance , or the life-span of the charge and the E-Cat
are not in the protocol of the experiment. Obviously, if the exhaustion
will happen during the experiment, that would be a serendipity.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Frank Acland 

April 10th, 2014 at 7:47 PM 
Dear Andrea,
You mentioned you sent your E-Cat to the neutral location when you
learned about it. Did you send multiple reactors, or only one?
Many thanks,
Frank Acland
Andrea Rossi 

April 10th, 2014 at 9:17 PM 
Frank Acland:
We sent 3 of them, as spare parts, but ( this I can say) we did not have
breaks or malfunctions, so far, so the spare parts are intact.
Warm Regards,
A.R.





Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

2014-04-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:

It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA.


Maybe China?

I am reading Mats Lewan's book right now and am about a third of the way
through it.  It is well worth reading for the backstory, although I
sometimes wonder whether Lewan too readily repeats uncritically the
information that has been given to him, as has been said in connection with
Isaacson's book about Steve Jobs.

Following are companies that Rossi has started or purchased at the point
where I am in my reading:

   - Petroldragon
   - Omar
   - Leonardo Corporation
   - Leonardo Technologies Inc. (different from Leonardo Corp.)
   - Eon
   - Energia da Fonti Alternative (EFA)

So far the story has been quite an adventure, including a description of a
stay for over a year in an Italian jail, where Rossi was in a cell with
five other inmates.  At one point a secret factory is set up in Florida,
which partly manufactures E-Cats and for which there is another
blue-collar business that serves as a cover.  Sometimes LTI handles a
transaction, and sometimes Leonardo Corp. does.  Rossi (as you know) starts
a Web site called the Journal of Nuclear Physics, which purports to be a
peer reviewed journal.  I am now convinced that Rossi is exactly as
colorful as he gives the impression of being.  I am reminded of John Nash.

Eric


Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

2014-04-10 Thread Alan Fletcher


At 10:18 PM 4/10/2014, Eric Walker wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM,
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
wrote:


It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA.

Maybe China?
Sweden, most likely Uppsala.