Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_polaritons Surface plasmon polaritonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_polaritons, resulting from coupling of surface plasmonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmonwith light (the wavelength depends on the substance and its geometry). See Types of Polaritons On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Axil-- You said: When the wavelengths of these two particles are equal, they combine together to form a composite waveform. Does this composite waveform have a name? Bob - Original Message - *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention SPP can be packed together in a volume in unlimited numbers because SPP are BOSONS.. This produces a EMF soliton with a huge or unlimited amplitude like a laser. In fact, SPP can produce strong laser radiation when the quasi-particle breaks up. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The electron and the photon are particles, but they are waves too. When the wavelengths of these two particles are equal, they combine together to form a composite waveform. By convention, when thought of as particles, these particles combine into quasi- particles. This is why the SPP is said to be a quasi-particle.
Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention
An electron is always a wave. That is why they can not be pinned to a spot in space. such a pinning would require infinite energy... The uncertainty principle. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Axil-- If an electron is standing still, is it a wave? I think it must have some kinetic energy to become a wave. Lambda (l) = h/mv. If v is 0, l goes to infinity. Bob - Original Message - *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention SPP can be packed together in a volume in unlimited numbers because SPP are BOSONS.. This produces a EMF soliton with a huge or unlimited amplitude like a laser. In fact, SPP can produce strong laser radiation when the quasi-particle breaks up. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The electron and the photon are particles, but they are waves too. When the wavelengths of these two particles are equal, they combine together to form a composite waveform. By convention, when thought of as particles, these particles combine into quasi- particles. This is why the SPP is said to be a quasi-particle. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.comwrote: Axil-- Why do you say a SPP is a wave--I think of it as a particle--like you say a BOSON. Are BOSONs also unlimited in their loquaciousness as well as strength? Bob - Original Message - *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:55 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention The Surface plasmon polaritons (SPP) is a hybrid infrared/electron combo wave. It has spin and most important ...IT IS A BOSON.. BOSON means unlimited strength. That wave based spin produces the anapole magnetic field when the SPP forms a soliton in a vortex. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.comwrote: Axil Axil-- You finally have seen the light--the EMF that is. I joined this Blog a little over 2 months ago with a bias that spin and magnetism are the keys to LENR. I have been exposed to a lot of ideas and some facts. I am even more biased now. Spin is an energy with a direction and can be controlled by a magnetic field. The magnetic field establishes the amount of energy (via spin) a particle can hold and the differential amounts it can give up or take up. The old timers thought the energy was akin to a spinning top's energy and angular momentum. I am beginning to think of it as a mini Vortex of a magnetic field more or less locally confined within a volume of space--the particle boundary. Clarifying what is happening is just a matter of thinking inside the boundary. Bob - Original Message - *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan book : An Impossible Invention Based on the time honored LENR causation concept of charge screening, LENR is posited to be an EMF process. Since charge is emergent from spin, and spin is the origin on magnetism. therefore. LENR is a magnetic based process at its root. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.comwrote: Ahern seems to believe magnetic effects are at the heart of LENR phenomena. Each experimentalist and theorist has a pet theory about what is going on. What is important is whether one is able to subjugate one's personal hunches to a more objective and systematic pursuit of what is going on. He does not think nuclear reactions are involved. This should be a warning sign that Dr. Ahern might not be seeing much of interest. What seems clear is that some researchers get very pronounced results. Eric
RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand.
Axil, I like your theory as far as linkage between the nano and micro scale using SPP but am not convinced the SPP is the power source. Why does SPP have the potential for over unity? Wouldn't it be far likelier that you are setting the stage for a self assembled Maxwellian demon to exploit the known HUP energies at the end of these hairs? The geometrical confinement being one side of the vice and this SPP linkage to the moving ions being the other side it accepts and accumulates energy from the gas motion in contradiction to COE which claims this energy of gas motion can not be exploited..and admittedly a single gas atom in our macro isotropy can not but I am convinced this isotropy breaking geometry and your linkage demonstrates the potential for a real world demon that self assembles and is the root bootstrap energy that initiates these anomalies. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:08 PM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand. Ahern is correct in stating that the magic particle size is very small; 3 to 15 nanometers in diameter. This type of particle is the business end of the reaction in the same way the sharp tip of an electrode is where the energy of a spark is concentrated and amplified. But other size particles are required to get magnetic field strength up. The particle size produce by low melting point metals also must be supplied in the size particle mix. This is what Rossi is producing with his secret sauce addition. Yes, he adds a low melting point alkali metal to his reaction as a power amplifier. This type particle acts as a step up transformer coil where power is concentrated into a high voltage capacitive discharge. But the most important particle size is the 5 micron particle covered with nano hair. This particle is the power house of the reaction. This particle provides the receiving antenna for the SPP pumping generated from the mouse component of the reactor. You can think of this large particle as the Cat. The Mouse produces dipole oscillations in the large body of this jumbo particle where the SPP are born. The power produced by this huge particle is feed down the nano-hair covering to their sharp tips at tremendous power amplification. This dipole power produced in this micro particle feeds the step up power amplification process that occurs in the smaller diameter particle assemblages down the particle size chain to those magic 2 nanometer particles. Ahern does not understand this power concentration system and has only seen limited magnetic power produce by his particles because of this lack of this understanding.
Re: [Vo]:Lewan book
That's a good sign. Because the reality is, no one is going to care whatsoever about Rossi's quirks if he really has what he says he has. I think that's what Rossi is thinking too. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I have the book. The .mobi version opens automatically with the Kindle for PC program. This is an accurate and well-written account. It is depressing. I am glad Lewan made public many events and people's names, because it means I do not keep them secret any more. The book harshly criticizes Rossi in places. I am a little surprised that Rossi is not upset with Lewan. Rossi has a generous nature at times. The history described in this book is depressing, but the present is somewhat brighter. I have a good impression of the people in North Carolina, Cherokee Investments Partners, who are now working with Rossi. I do not know much about them, but I have a good impression. I think Rossi likes them, which is essential for success. This is probably the best opportunity Rossi can hope for. - Jed
[Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
See: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2014/04/concentrating-solar-power-under-fire-glaring-planning-oversight-or-easily-remedied-issue QUOTES [Clifford Ho of Sandia National Laboratories' Concentrating Solar Technologies Department says] I believe some of the glare that's being viewed is taking place when the heliostats are in a standby mode. During peak daylight hours, it is common for a number of heliostat mirrors to be taken offline to prevent heliostats from directing more thermal energy to the turbine than it is capable of receiving. Ho said that during standby, these heliostats are focused on aim points next to the receiver, forming a ring of glare above the tower. According to Ho, the sunlight reflected from heliostats that are in standby mode could be having an exacerbating effect on the amount of reflection being emitted. In examining photos of the glare taken by passengers flying over the Ivanpah plant, Ho said it's apparent to him the intense light is emanating from the heliostats not in use. You can clearly see the difference between what's just the diffuse reflection from the towers versus one or more heliostats that are in standby mode and reflecting light toward the observer. Ho has performed helicopter surveys of heliostats in standby mode at Sandia National Laboratories' National Solar Thermal Test Facility. It's bright, he said, emphasizing that the Sandia CSP array is much smaller than that of Ivanpah. When you're close, it can be like looking into the sun. . . . One possible solution, as suggested by Ho, is to reposition heliostats that are in standby mode so that they stand vertically -- thus reflecting the glare toward the ground instead of upward. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
What the Flux? 392 MW generated from steam turbine generators/30% Rankine Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: See: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2014/04/concentrating-solar-power-under-fire-glaring-planning-oversight-or-easily-remedied-issue QUOTES [Clifford Ho of Sandia National Laboratories' Concentrating Solar Technologies Department says] I believe some of the glare that's being viewed is taking place when the heliostats are in a standby mode. During peak daylight hours, it is common for a number of heliostat mirrors to be taken offline to prevent heliostats from directing more thermal energy to the turbine than it is capable of receiving. Ho said that during standby, these heliostats are focused on aim points next to the receiver, forming a ring of glare above the tower. According to Ho, the sunlight reflected from heliostats that are in standby mode could be having an exacerbating effect on the amount of reflection being emitted. In examining photos of the glare taken by passengers flying over the Ivanpah plant, Ho said it's apparent to him the intense light is emanating from the heliostats not in use. You can clearly see the difference between what's just the diffuse reflection from the towers versus one or more heliostats that are in standby mode and reflecting light toward the observer. Ho has performed helicopter surveys of heliostats in standby mode at Sandia National Laboratories' National Solar Thermal Test Facility. It's bright, he said, emphasizing that the Sandia CSP array is much smaller than that of Ivanpah. When you're close, it can be like looking into the sun. . . . One possible solution, as suggested by Ho, is to reposition heliostats that are in standby mode so that they stand vertically -- thus reflecting the glare toward the ground instead of upward. - Jed
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand.
Axil, I like your theory as far as linkage between the nano and micro scale using SPP but am not convinced the SPP is the power source. The power source is dipole motion in the micro-particle. This particle is sized to be resonant with the operating temperature of the reactor. The dipole vibrations caused by the ambient temperature of the reactor produces maximum electron oscillation. This electron motion is an alternating current that flows back and forth across the micro-particle. The nanowire provides a 1 dimensional superconducting path for the dipole current to accumulate at the tip of the nanowire. this super current accumulates electrons at the nanowire tips in the fractional mega amp range. Nanowire coating on the surface of the micro-particle is a critical power concentration mechanism. This nanowire power concentration is what makes LENR+ go. Why does SPP have the potential for over unity? The extreme curvature at the tips of nanowire produces a vortex of SPPs to develop where the boson nature of the SPP makes possible extreme concentration of a EMF soliton. This soliton produces a anapole magnetic field that gets strong enough to produce pions through vacuum breakdown. Hydrogen rydberg matter is attracted to these nanowire tips that further increase the EMF power application because of the extreme curvature related to the very small size of these nanoparticles. Larger nanoparticles also amplify the EMF concentration of the vortex formed at and around the tips of the wire in a zero loss dark mode energy transfer mechanism. Wouldn't it be far likelier that you are setting the stage for a self assembled Maxwellian demon to exploit the known HUP energies at the end of these hairs? The geometrical confinement being one side of the vice and this SPP linkage to the moving ions being the other side it accepts and accumulates energy from the gas motion in contradiction to COE which claims this energy of gas motion can not be exploited..and admittedly a single gas atom in our macro isotropy can not but I am convinced this isotropy breaking geometry and your linkage demonstrates the potential for a real world demon that self assembles and is the root bootstrap energy that initiates these anomalies. Fran There is a positive feedback mechanism that takes the gamma energy from the nuclear fusion of hydrogen present in the Rydberg crystals and adds that to the energy content of the vortex based soliton at the tips of the nanowire. This optical nano-cavity down shifts this gamma energy into the extreme ultraviolet range and through power reincorporation makes the amplitude of the SPP soliton and the associated magnetic field produced by the soliton even stronger over time. *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:08 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:The Video: Dr, Ahern does not yet understand. Ahern is correct in stating that the magic particle size is very small; 3 to 15 nanometers in diameter. This type of particle is the business end of the reaction in the same way the sharp tip of an electrode is where the energy of a spark is concentrated and amplified. But other size particles are required to get magnetic field strength up. The particle size produce by low melting point metals also must be supplied in the size particle mix. This is what Rossi is producing with his secret sauce addition. Yes, he adds a low melting point alkali metal to his reaction as a power amplifier. This type particle acts as a step up transformer coil where power is concentrated into a high voltage capacitive discharge. But the most important particle size is the 5 micron particle covered with nano hair. This particle is the power house of the reaction. This particle provides the receiving antenna for the SPP pumping generated from the mouse component of the reactor. You can think of this large particle as the Cat. The Mouse produces dipole oscillations in the large body of this jumbo particle where the SPP are born. The power produced by this huge particle is feed down the nano-hair covering to their sharp tips at tremendous power amplification. This dipole power produced in this micro particle feeds the step up power amplification process that occurs in the smaller diameter particle assemblages down the particle size chain to those magic 2 nanometer particles. Ahern does not understand this power concentration system and has only seen limited magnetic power produce by his particles because of this lack of this understanding.
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight or in sunlight reflected from glass or water. I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight. I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright. Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from coal, gas and nuke plants. - Jed
[Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research
放射性廃棄物の無害化に道? 三菱重、実用研究へ (google translation) The road to the detoxification of radioactive waste? Mitsubishi Heavy, to practical research 2014/4/8 7:00 Use the deuterium, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries established the basic technology of the element conversion to change the type of the element with less energy. Without a large-scale nuclear reactors and accelerators, for example cesium was confirmed by experiment and can vary in many praseodymium element number four. Toward demonstration equipment installation in the future and into the practical application research. Converted to harmless non-radioactive elements, the same strontium and radioactive cesium radioactive waste and those that open the way for detoxification of, the rush to put to practical use as a primary manufacturer. conversion element in a hundred hours Late March, lecture room of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the U.S. Boston. Before researchers of more than 100 people that gathered from the world, Iwamura Yasuhiro intelligence group length in the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd., Advanced Technology Research Center was reported, was confirmed micro parts per million () grams elemental conversion.Proposal of theory which receives numerous questions, to explain the experiment that the company also announced a number... http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASDZ040JJ_X00C14A400/
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
In high winds, mirrors go to flat position and all of the flux goes incident and airborne. Ivanpah is a high wind area. http://www.nabsa.org On Thursday, April 10, 2014, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com'); wrote: Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight or in sunlight reflected from glass or water. I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight. I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright. Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from coal, gas and nuke plants. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research
Ah, thanks. Someone told me about this, but I could not find it with the Nikkei's search function. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: The mirrors would not be focused at one spot when idle. Also it is a good idea to reduce global warming by directing the light back into space instead into the ground. Since it is near an airport I think it would be better to aim for the ground. I wonder . . . could you focus them on the parking lot? That would make a good murder mystery. A jealous lover is the programmer in charge of the array. Her boyfriend parks his car, walks toward the building . . . He does not notice the mirrors turning toward him. He vanishes in a puff of smoke. The mirrors swing back. No trace of the program code or activity log is found. Arthur Clarke wrote two short stories along those lines. - Jed
[Vo]:Fabricating Hydrocarbons
This article represents well how LENR would benefit the Navy. They're willing to fabricate fuel from seawater at $6/gal: http://news.yahoo.com/us-navy-game-changer-converting-seawater-fuel-150544958.html
Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research
The second page of this article discusses cold fusion. It includes the usual blather about how it was mostly not replicated, and how it is considered no better than alchemy. The article implies Iwamura is trying to distance himself from cold fusion, which is not true. Then it has a photo of Prof. Arima visiting the experiment in 2007. Arima is Japan's version of Robert Park. He denounced cold fusion when it was first reported, and he is the go-to source for the newspapers when they want a fresh attack. I hope Iwamura rubbed his nose in the results. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: In 1958, the science fiction author Arthur C. Clarke published A Slight Case of Sunstroke . . . In the story, a large number of hostile spectators aim reflective program covers at the unfortunate umpire, who collapses and dies from the concentrated solar energy focused where he stood. He doesn't just collapse and die. It takes place in South America. The stadium has thousands army troops in the audience. Halfway through the game, a whistle blows, and the troops all aim their reflective programs at the ref, who vanishes in a puff of smoke. The other story is about an astronomer who murders his wife by aiming a searchlight at her car as she is driving home along the edge of cliff, late at night. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
It is a little more complex. There is a distance from the (presumed flat) mirror such that the angular extent of the mirror is about the same as that of the sun (1/2 deg). From there out the intercepted flux decreases, by the square of the distance. From the birds view, at that distance it sees the whole sun fill the mirror. Any farther out the image is bigger than the mirror -only part of the sun is supplying heat. If the mirrors are curved, then each mirror will have a hot focal point, but not super hot: again it is limited by the angular extent of the sun and the mirror. A ideal mirror will project an image of the sun on the boiler (or bird, if at focus), and the intensity is that of sunlight multiplied by the square of the ratio of the two angular extents. Maybe 10 or 20 to 1? WAG here. As Bob points out, the nimbus effect strongly suggests that the designers were aware of a possible problem and made sure mirrors in standby don't all point at a single point, or even parallel. Ol' Bab, who was an engineer. On 4/10/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Cook wrote: The mirrors would not be focused at one spot when idle. Also it is a good idea to reduce global warming by directing the light back into space instead into the ground. - Original Message - *From:* Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:59 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com mailto:cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight or in sunlight reflected from glass or water. I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight. I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright. Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from coal, gas and nuke plants. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant
OlBab-- What kind of engineer were you? Older Bob? - Original Message - From: David L Babcock To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant It is a little more complex. There is a distance from the (presumed flat) mirror such that the angular extent of the mirror is about the same as that of the sun (1/2 deg). From there out the intercepted flux decreases, by the square of the distance. From the birds view, at that distance it sees the whole sun fill the mirror. Any farther out the image is bigger than the mirror -only part of the sun is supplying heat. If the mirrors are curved, then each mirror will have a hot focal point, but not super hot: again it is limited by the angular extent of the sun and the mirror. A ideal mirror will project an image of the sun on the boiler (or bird, if at focus), and the intensity is that of sunlight multiplied by the square of the ratio of the two angular extents. Maybe 10 or 20 to 1? WAG here. As Bob points out, the nimbus effect strongly suggests that the designers were aware of a possible problem and made sure mirrors in standby don't all point at a single point, or even parallel. Ol' Bab, who was an engineer. On 4/10/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Cook wrote: The mirrors would not be focused at one spot when idle. Also it is a good idea to reduce global warming by directing the light back into space instead into the ground. - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problem with glare at Ivanpah CSP plant ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Efficiency/85% heat transfer efficiency @ solar boiler/90% mirror efficiency = 1700 megawatts airborne flux, THAT IS A GOOD BIRD ZAPPER Close to the tower it would be. When a bird flies a few meters away from the surface of one mirror, it is no different than flying in full sunlight or in sunlight reflected from glass or water. I do not know at what distance from the tower the beams of light join together to be brighter and hotter than ordinary sunlight. I expect birds would not approach the tower because it is so bright. Millions of birds are killed by smoke from coal plants, and steam from coal, gas and nuke plants. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nikkei reports on Iwamura's transumtation research
Thanks for the tidbits...google's English translation of Japanese is not clear. Harry On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Another interesting tidbit: p. 1 says they were awarded a patent in Japan, and a patent in Europe in 2013. Page 1 also quotes the guy in charge of the research center, Ishide, saying that they have made progress in recent years. He says the amount of material transmuted has increased from nanogram levels to micrograms; an improvement by 3 orders of magnitude . . . I think the rest of the technical content can be found in recent papers by Iwamura. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test
At 08:37 AM 4/9/2014, Daniel Rocha wrote: I hope this is the 6 month test he promised, heh! Yes. Teemu April 10th, 2014 at 8:30 AM Dear Andrea Rossi, When you say that the Professors are conducting their work in a neutral laboratory, do you mean they are still in your premises, or instead situated in a laboratory that is not owned by you? Best Regards, Teemu Andrea Rossi April 10th, 2014 at 6:02 PM Teemu: The Professors have worked and are working in a laboratory that is not owned by us, is totally out of our premises and that we never used before. We knew of it few days before the beginning of the test and sent there the E-Cat. It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA. I cannot give further information, but, obviously, the precise location where the test will have been completed will be described in the Report that will be written by the Third Indipendent Party. When we arrived there for the assembling of the reactor, some of the components of the t.i.p. were already there for the set up. Warm Regards, A.R. Koen Vandewalle April 10th, 2014 at 6:37 PM Dear Andrea, Supposed that at the beginning of the test, the Professors did discover that the E-Cat does what is is meant to do. One question that should be asked: how much energy can produce one E-Cat ? Did you make agreements on this item ? And when the answer is that it continues in eternity to catalyze energy, then the test will never be over. A catalyzer is not consumed . Did you agree on limits in time or amount of energy ? Kind Regards, Koen. P.S. : the congratulations were not for the results of these tests, but for the respect that is finally given to your work. Andrea Rossi April 10th, 2014 at 9:20 PM Koen Vandewalle: No, the total endurance , or the life-span of the charge and the E-Cat are not in the protocol of the experiment. Obviously, if the exhaustion will happen during the experiment, that would be a serendipity. Warm Regards, A.R. Frank Acland April 10th, 2014 at 7:47 PM Dear Andrea, You mentioned you sent your E-Cat to the neutral location when you learned about it. Did you send multiple reactors, or only one? Many thanks, Frank Acland Andrea Rossi April 10th, 2014 at 9:17 PM Frank Acland: We sent 3 of them, as spare parts, but ( this I can say) we did not have breaks or malfunctions, so far, so the spare parts are intact. Warm Regards, A.R.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA. Maybe China? I am reading Mats Lewan's book right now and am about a third of the way through it. It is well worth reading for the backstory, although I sometimes wonder whether Lewan too readily repeats uncritically the information that has been given to him, as has been said in connection with Isaacson's book about Steve Jobs. Following are companies that Rossi has started or purchased at the point where I am in my reading: - Petroldragon - Omar - Leonardo Corporation - Leonardo Technologies Inc. (different from Leonardo Corp.) - Eon - Energia da Fonti Alternative (EFA) So far the story has been quite an adventure, including a description of a stay for over a year in an Italian jail, where Rossi was in a cell with five other inmates. At one point a secret factory is set up in Florida, which partly manufactures E-Cats and for which there is another blue-collar business that serves as a cover. Sometimes LTI handles a transaction, and sometimes Leonardo Corp. does. Rossi (as you know) starts a Web site called the Journal of Nuclear Physics, which purports to be a peer reviewed journal. I am now convinced that Rossi is exactly as colorful as he gives the impression of being. I am reminded of John Nash. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test
At 10:18 PM 4/10/2014, Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA. Maybe China? Sweden, most likely Uppsala.