Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
I think the hydride loads MORE hydrogen from the supply when it is heated by allowing the gas population to migrate into regions where vacuum wavelengths are suppressed. In these regions the gas contracts to the exotic forms that are the subject of all these discussions and theories. I won't go so far as to say that this type of pressurized loading is, by itself, in conflict with COE since it takes heat and pressure to achieve the effect but once achieved the gas continues to move between different regions changing freely to different exotic/fractional/relativistic values. If Naudt's is correct about the gas being relativistic then I posit the contraction we observe is due to negative gravity [negative equivalent acceleration] .. a concept hard to imagine because we think of dx/dt only in terms of a constant unit of time where 0 dt is the absolute minimum, I am positing that suppression of vacuum wavelengths allows us to reduce the unit of time below what we presently accept as the zero value for a stationary inertial frame. I predict that the time unit can be suppressed enough in these Casimir regions to account for the reports of anomalous half life decay. I believe the local perspective of a hydrino or fractional hydrogen wrt to space time outside the lattice is consistent with the same perspective a stationary observer on earth would have for a near C object but using negative acceleration/suppression can achieve the effect without any spatial dx. I think confusion will continue to reign over this field because of our definitions of time and temperature which ignore relativistic effects. I think the hydrino locally perceives negative equivalent acceleration as intense gravity in a direction that appears normal local to it's inertial frame but which cause the object to shrink from our perspective - I suspect the walls of the confinement shrink away as the gas atoms suddenly see a totally empty region of space to one side of them while, to the other, the previously inaccessible bottom of the cavity suddenly appears large enough for them to continue downward between walls that should be otherwise too small for them to fit between. I think this is a new form of Lorentzian contraction on the nano scale powered by vacuum suppression instead of dx and I believe the normal contraction along a single axis is still in effect except it is only available to the hydrino while our perspective of the hydrino is equivalent to that of the near C Paradox Twin of a universe suddenly accelerated greatly and shrunken behind us as we travel a hypotenuse toward C. Fran -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it. In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:25:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] The key parameters in this exercise are the volume of the hydrogen envelope and the maximum pressure of hydrogen in that envelope. If we were to assume that the hydride replenished the envelope as the pressure decreased due to transmutation to keep the pressure constant, then that would be a different story. That assumption would be the same as connecting the envelope to a hydrogen tank with a pressure regulator attached. ...but that's exactly why the Hydride is present! If the only Hydrogen used was what was in the tank, then it could just be filled from a cylinder at the start and closed off, and the Hydride would not be needed at all. Actually, it's slightly more complicated. The Hydrogen supply is most likely regulated during the course of the experiment by deliberately controlling the temperature of the Hydride. This effectively has the same effect as the gas pedal in a car. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
You make an excellent point that we have not considered. When hydrogen is initially desorbed form the hydride, it will change into exotic forms such as Rydberg crystals. Once formed, these new hydrogen molecular configurations will no by absorbed back into the hydride. Desorption of hydrogen from a hydride may be a one way street. This means that any type of hydrogen manipulation via temperature control will not affect the reaction strength. I believe that Rossi has not solved his control problems. He needs another control parameter other than temperature to control the hot cat. The results from the six mouth test that we are all waiting for will tell the tale on this point. The Hot-Cat may produce excess heat but might tend to meltdown on occasion. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: I think the hydride loads MORE hydrogen from the supply when it is heated by allowing the gas population to migrate into regions where vacuum wavelengths are suppressed. In these regions the gas contracts to the exotic forms that are the subject of all these discussions and theories. I won't go so far as to say that this type of pressurized loading is, by itself, in conflict with COE since it takes heat and pressure to achieve the effect but once achieved the gas continues to move between different regions changing freely to different exotic/fractional/relativistic values. If Naudt's is correct about the gas being relativistic then I posit the contraction we observe is due to negative gravity [negative equivalent acceleration] .. a concept hard to imagine because we think of dx/dt only in terms of a constant unit of time where 0 dt is the absolute minimum, I am positing that suppression of vacuum wavelengths allows us to reduce the unit of time below what we presently accept as the zero value for a stationary inertial frame. I predict that the time unit can be suppressed enough in these Casimir regions to account for the reports of anomalous half life decay. I believe the local perspective of a hydrino or fractional hydrogen wrt to space time outside the lattice is consistent with the same perspective a stationary observer on earth would have for a near C object but using negative acceleration/suppression can achieve the effect without any spatial dx. I think confusion will continue to reign over this field because of our definitions of time and temperature which ignore relativistic effects. I think the hydrino locally perceives negative equivalent acceleration as intense gravity in a direction that appears normal local to it's inertial frame but which cause the object to shrink from our perspective - I suspect the walls of the confinement shrink away as the gas atoms suddenly see a totally empty region of space to one side of them while, to the other, the previously inaccessible bottom of the cavity suddenly appears large enough for them to continue downward between walls that should be otherwise too small for them to fit between. I think this is a new form of Lorentzian contraction on the nano scale powered by vacuum suppression instead of dx and I believe the normal contraction along a single axis is still in effect except it is only available to the hydrino while our perspective of the hydrino is equivalent to that of the near C Paradox Twin of a universe suddenly accelerated greatly and shrunken behind us as we travel a hypotenuse toward C. Fran -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it. In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:25:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] The key parameters in this exercise are the volume of the hydrogen envelope and the maximum pressure of hydrogen in that envelope. If we were to assume that the hydride replenished the envelope as the pressure decreased due to transmutation to keep the pressure constant, then that would be a different story. That assumption would be the same as connecting the envelope to a hydrogen tank with a pressure regulator attached. ...but that's exactly why the Hydride is present! If the only Hydrogen used was what was in the tank, then it could just be filled from a cylinder at the start and closed off, and the Hydride would not be needed at all. Actually, it's slightly more complicated. The Hydrogen supply is most likely regulated during the course of the experiment by deliberately controlling the temperature of the Hydride. This effectively has the same effect as the gas pedal in a car. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book
Hah, hah, Axil. You'll never guess who Kevmo is. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Some appetizers to hold you over http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896450/posts On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still waiting to receive my copy. I'll have more to say then. I'm guessing most haven't gotten around to it either. But generally speaking it deserves some in-depth analysis for sure. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction: / /An Examination of the Relationship between Observation and Explanation/ by Edmund Storms See http://lenrexplained.com/ ***So why is this book being greeted by indifference yawning by Vorticians?
Re: [Vo]:Edmund Storms's new book
What do you think of my theory? To: *All; y'all; et al* Here’s my theory. On either side of a crack in the substrate material, you’ve got electrons moving at different speeds, creating a microscopically small differential capacitor. The vibrations push the differential charge “upward”, which is to say from the smallest separation of the crack to the largest. When the charge differential gets to a certain point, a spark is generated. This spark is what creates the Nuclear Active Environment. But it is not due to plasma physics, it is due to a force generated by a spark that goes across the anode cathode of a capacitor. In the below Quantum Potential article, a propulsive force was found that matches these conditions (except that we’re seeing it on a microscopic level). Asymmetric Capacitor Thruster http://www.quantum-potential.com/ACT%20NASA.pdf An earlier SBIR study commissioned by the Air Force reported a propulsive force caused by a spark between ACT electrodes [3]. The study [3] also focused on ACT thrust in high vacuum (10−5 to 10−7 Torr) and reports small (on the order of 10 nN) thrust in vacuum under pulsed DC voltage conditions. Furthermore, the study [3] reports observation of thrust when a piezoelectric dielectric material such as lead titanate or lead zirconate (high relative dielectric constants of k = 1750) was used between the ACT electrodes. The thrust was apparently produced by slow pulsing spark-‐initiated breakdown of the dielectric. The magnitude of the propulsive force increases with the intensity of sparking across the dielectric. The study [3] recommended further exploration of sparking across dielectrics as a source of propulsive forces in ACTs. Unfortunately, no such follow-‐up study was conducted. I believe this Asymmetric Capacitor force has been previously described as the Poynting Vector. I think it is enhanced by the advent of a spark across the electrodes. But I might be mistaken. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pft01.htm During a charging process of a flat capacitor, the Poynting vector ( S=ExH ) comes from outside the capacitor towards the wire connections, parallel to the surface of the armatures inside the dielectric medium. There is an energy flow directly proportional to ExB. This energy is not provided by the wires but comes from the surrounding space around the capacitor. ( ref: The Feynman Lectures on Physics : Electromagnetism vol2, Chap: 27-5, fig 27-3 by Addison-Wesley Publishing company. ) So, this Poynting Asymmetrical Capacitor Vector generates a unidirectional force. Any protons within its path would be propelled into a nearby Hydrogen atom which is trapped inside a Palladium matrix. This force is enough to overcome the Coulomb Barrier. A couple of guesses: There would have to be hundreds of thousands of these sparks every second, constantly spitting matter or protons or electrons in one direction similar to a Cathode Ray Tube (CRT) particle accelerator, where only 1 in 100k particles actually collides with a nucleus of a hydrogen atom and fuses. This force is proportional to the distance between electrodes, so the effect would happen closer to the small vertex of the crack rather than the large ends of the crack. The transfer of energy of fused atoms is mostly heat because the collision is unidirectional, and the gamma rays that are emitted only come out in certain geometrical probabilities, and most of those probabilities are directly in line with host atoms on the palladium (or nickel) matrix. I look at it similar to a pellet gun hitting balloons -- most of the time the air escapes the balloon in almost the same regions each time. These reactions only occur one atom at a time, so the geometrically restricted release of gamma rays is similarly restricted. The released energy is absorbed by the matrix one atom-release at a time. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Some appetizers to hold you over http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2896450/posts On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still waiting to receive my copy. I'll have more to say then. I'm guessing most haven't gotten around to it either. But generally speaking it deserves some in-depth analysis for sure. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: The Explanation of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction: / /An Examination of the Relationship between Observation and Explanation/ by Edmund Storms See http://lenrexplained.com/ ***So why is this book being greeted by indifference yawning by Vorticians?
Re: [Vo]:Mills' Interview
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2014/07/12/9602517_Landmark-Interview_ with_Randell-Mills_Blacklight-Power/ From the PESN article above: Randell said that the engineering firms they are consulting with say that there are no engineering obstacles to marry the Blacklight system with photovoltaics, but that all systems are Go. All the different engineering problems are covered, including light angle, emission from electrodes, heat dissipation and transfer, and material handling. This thing is meant to be, is their assessment. They are extraordinarily optimistic this will roll out quickly. It wont' take decades or even years. Every major issue has broken in our favor, said Randell. It seems, then, that a major redesign of their system is once more underway. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Mills' Interview
On 07/15/2014 11:09 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: http://pesn.com/2014/07/12/9602517_Landmark-Interview_with_Randell-Mills_Blacklight-Power/ From the PESN article above: Randell said that the engineering firms they are consulting with say that there are no engineering obstacles to marry the Blacklight system with photovoltaics, but that all systems are Go. All the different engineering problems are covered, including light angle, emission from electrodes, heat dissipation and transfer, and material handling. This thing is meant to be, is their assessment. They are extraordinarily optimistic this will roll out quickly. It wont' take decades or even years. Every major issue has broken in our favor, said Randell. It seems, then, that a major redesign of their system is once more underway. Eric Right, and I'll believe it when I see it; but according to Mills, they are ready. It is apparently only months away. I could use a breakthrough. I've been a Vortex subscriber for about 19 years. Craig
RE: [Vo]:Mills' Interview
From: Eric Walker “It won’t take decades or even years. Every major issue has broken in our favor, said Randell. It seems, then, that a major redesign of their system is once more underway. LOL. Sadly this sentiment is both humorous and accurate - backed by repeated episodes of Mills snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Many of us were enamored with Mills in the early days. He has strong academic credentials, charisma, and is a money-magnet. He has an intuitive theory which could be partly correct, despite looking unlike it did 15 years ago. Stolper called him “America’s Newton” and there was justification for that, if…. But his main problem is an inflated ego and a propensity to exaggerate, followed by failure to produce, and then the worst trait of all – to never explain why the last great system failed – as if nothing out of the ordinary happened. It’s almost like he expects it to fail, so when it does, the less said the better. I would love to see Mills be successful, but sadly this latest venture looks to be the least likely of the previous 6 or 7 to succeed. My personal favorite design was the reverse gyrotron. I still think Randy gave up way too soon on that one. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Mills' Interview
“It won’t take decades or even years... ***He has started narrowing the timeline of payoff because Rossi is sucking the air out of the room.
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
In fact, that strange outcome - requiring the mention of a vacuum/ZPE/Dirac source of energy transfer, would be very difficult for all of those PhDs to swallow, and thus responsible for a much longer delay than if the reaction can be pinned to nuclear. ***Thanks, Jones. Until now I found no better explanation for the swedish scientists having such a long delay; it was either incompetence or greed. Now I see that it can be bewilderment. However, they knew going in that there could be anomalous results, so they have betrayed their first responsibility of simply reporting the results. No one asked them for a theory to explain it; after all, no one has been able to do so for 25 years and for them to think they could do it in a matter of months is the height of hubris.
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
These PhD dudes should have simply settled on Nuclear as the reaction and let the implications of zero point energy miracles become someone else's problem. They simply report that at the VERY LEAST it is a NUKE phenomenom. If it's so far removed from natural reality that it can only be explained in terms of miracles ZPE, well, that's someone else's problem. The DUHH factor is incredibly high here. It leads one to suspect that these guys are engaging in insider trading on this information to the benefit of their friends family. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton In fact, that strange outcome - requiring the mention of a vacuum/ZPE/Dirac source of energy transfer, would be very difficult for all of those PhDs to swallow, and thus responsible for a much longer delay than if the reaction can be pinned to nuclear. Hmmm. Now where did I read that before? ;-) Hmm... Did you plant that particular thought into the collective unconscious?
