RE: [Vo]:This is where it all began?
From: a.ashfield Jones, Big though it is, it is not large compared with the 100 billion galaxies in the Universe. No but it is by far the most massive structure that we presently are aware of. And the fact it has gone undetected until 2015 raises many issues about prior assumptions used in our models (and our capability to understand the cosmos). Not to mention, what other major surprises like this one await discovery? In our frame of reference, this object is spewing out the equivalent energy of 3000 Milky Way galaxies most of which have their own black holes, and 3000 galaxies (450 trillion suns) is a small fraction of all galaxies. Yet this overlooks its great age, which then begs the question: since the quasar is almost as old as the Universe, as we are seeing it now - how much more mass has it gained in the intervening 12 billion years, unbeknownst to us - and will it spew out increasing amounts of energy over time? It will be most interesting if 100 years from now, someone notices that its energy emission has increased substantially. Mind boggling. attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:This is where it all began?
About the big bang theory -- my understanding is that it requires faster than light expansion in the earliest period. A theory that says the rules change at some point in time seems a bit ad hoc to me. About the huge black hole -- what are the chances that it looks like a black hole from our perspective, but from another angle looks like something quite different? Eric
Re: [Vo]:still waiting for the essential LENR info of yesterady
Why does everybody assume that the EMF that Rossi sends to the hearer coils reinforces the reaction. It could just as well retard the reaction to kept it under control. A gas heated E Cat could explode all the time, whereas a electrical heated E Cat is well controlled. A high frequency RF signal may be embedded in the power feed to the heater coil along with the 60 cycle power cycle. The power supply to the heater coil is secret for a good reason, it keeps the BANG from happening. On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, I am sending you the daily: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/day-6-what-have-we-learned.html but we have not learned the essentials coming fro Mosoow snd Milano. Patience and weekend were not created for me. My guess is that 5 minutes after sending this- the much awaited info will be on the Web. See you later! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re:[Vo]:This is where it all began?
Jones, Big though it is, it is not large compared with the 100 billion galaxies in the Universe.
Re: [Vo]:All important product
Papp had no product? Au contraire! He had a working atomic submarine and made a solo trip from Europe to Canada in 13 hours. He even wrote a book about it. Anyone read it? Hundreds of Fathoms: Who was Josef Papp? | | | | | | | | | | | Hundreds of Fathoms: Who was Josef Papp?Josef Papp was a Hungarian-Canadian engineer who in 1966 claimed to have built the worlds fastest submarine with a speed of over 300 MPH. | | | | View on lubbers-line.blogspo... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | On Friday, February 27, 2015 3:31 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: Hello Axil, I do not know much about dark matter but I hope your insight is as good when it comes to the general statement about inventors. Unfortunately there is another factor contributing to the problem (I think it is a problem that needs a solution) and that is the factor of secrecy / the patent illusion. I also think like you that Mills has no interest in a product rather a nobel prize.I hear that LENR is proven and that there is no doubt any longer. As I mentioned above I do not have the capacity to evaluate the many theories and how they fit with the experiments. I do believe there is something - call it overunity, which is proven. However, I have no clear feeling for that COP's of 10 or even 5 is achieved. Seems all experiments are coming with several ambiguous test methods. If the COP is low and the difficulties are large and require sophisticated design combined with expensive reactors the breakthrough will not come fast.Lots of clever engineering will be required. The only solution is a more open and organized effort to do this engineering. For inventors a ROssi it might be a catch 22. If he does not give away the knowledge to a group big enough to reach result quickly he will not live long enough to benefit to an enormous reward and if he share the cake might be smaller.I had hoped to see more action from AR's partners toward a product. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi is right, the important thing is the product...all else is chatter. Without a product, you have nothing.Joe Papp had a working over unity energy device a half century ago. The Papp engine was verified, certified, demoed, patented, and whatever else was necessary to give his investors a warm feeling but Papp never placed his invention into production. Why, because Papp could not produce a product and he did not want to produce a product. Producing a product is far harder than producing a prototype. Most genius engineers don’t want to meet all the regulations and requirements necessary, endure all the heartache, feel all the pain necessary to get a product to a buyer.There are few Bill Gates and Steve Jobs in this world. Mills makes a good life tinkering with his prototypes and writing his theories. He cannot produce a product or down deep in his heart he does not want to be bothered with a product and so he joins the other chattereres as Rossi is apt to say.
[Vo]:This is where it all began?
Here is a big story for Mauro Lacy, if he is still tuned into Vortex, or anyone else with cosmology credentials . http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-02/anu-afi022415.php This impossible object presents us with the distinct possibility of a new version of the Big Bang which can explain Universal expansion in a unique way. This could be called bifurcated expansion. which is basically a single expansion, followed by the early contraction of a fraction of the original mass; and then a continuing expansion or the remainder - all in the first billion years. The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model and it proposes that the Universe was in a very high density state and expanded with a single bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago and that matter and antimatter were not created in equal amounts. But [SDSS J0100+2802] as the ultra-luminous quasar is called, is too large for the Big Bang model to accommodate. Effectively all bets are now off, since the Big Bang theory will be shown to be incorrect by this discovery. This object is a singularity which could be telling us that IT alone is the actual locus - the place of origin of the Universe, and that everything subsequently derived from this exact location (which is between Pisces and Andromeda from our perspective). Thus, what we have is an initial Creation event which expanded for many millions of years but which then cooled and underwent a basic change - so that part of the total mass (perhaps half) coalesced and contracted, while the other half continued to expand, gaining velocity from the half which contracted. We could surmise that the half which coalesced was antimatter, or at least another form of matter (mirror matter) and the half that continued to expand is the regular matter, which we know and love. The implication is that [SDSS J0100+2802] is composed exclusively of antimatter (or mirror matter). You heard it first on vortex. :-)
[Vo]:Greenyer- Parkhomov collaboration
It arrived an hour later as I guessed it is: gooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/from-bob-greenyer.html Still open-ended, the rest tomorrow. Enjoy! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
[Vo]:still waiting for the essential LENR info of yesterady
Dear Friends, I am sending you the daily: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/day-6-what-have-we-learned.html but we have not learned the essentials coming fro Mosoow snd Milano. Patience and weekend were not created for me. My guess is that 5 minutes after sending this- the much awaited info will be on the Web. See you later! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:This is where it all began?
Eric brings up a good point. I think the concept is that we are looking at a polar end of the thing putting out all the energy near the 13 B year mark. What is the subtended solid angle that we see? Is it a fine line that is able to emit the light? If this is the case there must be many others oriented in a different direction that we do not see. Some may be significantly larger black holes. I also not understood the concept of the expanding space and what influences its rate. That may have a theory to explain it. Bob - Original Message - From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:This is where it all began? About the big bang theory -- my understanding is that it requires faster than light expansion in the earliest period. A theory that says the rules change at some point in time seems a bit ad hoc to me. About the huge black hole -- what are the chances that it looks like a black hole from our perspective, but from another angle looks like something quite different? Eric
[Vo]:Re: CMNS: Greenyer- Parkhomov collaboration
This morning I copied it from the Facebook page of MFMP to my blog. Greenyer made an excellent work- now it is upon him and his colleagues to replicate.The saga continues and it is a LENR+ saga (2000 W, 1.5 MWatthours) Peter On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Smith.JD - iPad only smith...@me.com wrote: I believe that this is the correct URL. I inserted an 'e' in front... URL = http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/from-bob-greenyer.html On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: It arrived an hour later as I guessed it is: gooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/from-bob-greenyer.html Still open-ended, the rest tomorrow. Enjoy! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:still waiting for the essential LENR info of yesterady
The problem is if what happens at 400-600 C is the same that happens at 1100 1300 C Peter On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Why does everybody assume that the EMF that Rossi sends to the hearer coils reinforces the reaction. It could just as well retard the reaction to kept it under control. A gas heated E Cat could explode all the time, whereas a electrical heated E Cat is well controlled. A high frequency RF signal may be embedded in the power feed to the heater coil along with the 60 cycle power cycle. The power supply to the heater coil is secret for a good reason, it keeps the BANG from happening. On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, I am sending you the daily: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/day-6-what-have-we-learned.html but we have not learned the essentials coming fro Mosoow snd Milano. Patience and weekend were not created for me. My guess is that 5 minutes after sending this- the much awaited info will be on the Web. See you later! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
