[Vo]:Gravitation Propulsion PAtent- Dr Yamashita Haruo
Greetings Vortex-L, Perhaps, similarly: http://www.electrogravityphysics.com/html/rotating.html Ron Kita,Chiralex Doylestown PA
[Vo]:Non-Linear Electric Propulsion Patent-Col Rex Schlicher, USAF, ret
Greetings Vortex-L, I see that nobody mentioned Col Rex Schlicher,USAF,ret., EM Patent: https://www.google.com/patents/US5142861 Ad astra, Ron Kita, Chiralex Doylestown PA
Re: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric
Thinking about it, his test seems to me to be a verification of the aether. Forgetting his magical coating as we don't know what that is or how or why it works... What he has is 2 oppositely charged disks, one rotating and one not. If we take the view of a stationary aether, then the top disk is rotating and producing a magnetic field that is seen in all reference frames. The bottom disk is not rotating and is not seen to be creating a magnetic field even from the point of view of the rotating disk. This results in the bottom stationary disk both seeing a magnetic fields from the above rotating disk, and an electric force from it due to induction (or the type of Hooper's motional e-field or a homopolar generator), but the other disk does not have an additional force working on it as bottom disk is not producing a magnetic field in the first place. I fail to see how this could be expected to produce a thrust as he claims if all reference frames were equal. A rotating charged disk creating a magnetic field is known, what I have long wondered about is if rotating around a stationary charged disk brings into existence a magnetic field only seen by the rotating reference frame, now it seems clear this is not the case. Interestingly the fluxliner might be explainable by this mechanism if the central coil produces a drag (electromagnetic frame dragging) selectively in the capacitor plates. Still overall that seems unlikely to be the explanation for that effect. John On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:31 AM, John Berry wrote: > BTW, presuming things scale linearly with velocity (but it could be > better) if you ran his test setup at 100,000 RPM and 500KV which still > would not be the limit of plausible engineering you would have 500 Newtons > of force. > That's 51kg of force, which would sound enough for antigravity, and a > quick trip to Mars. > > John > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, John Berry > wrote: > >> Very similar to my ideas. >> >> This is the same line of thinking that can produce a conclusion of >> negative impedance in a non-inductive coil with a high negative charge. >> >> I had never studied the idea for propulsive forces. >> >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM, H Ucar wrote: >> >>> http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/specifications >>> >>> >>> The website of Richard Banduric show a device producing 0.1 Newton >>> thrust. The setup remind me rotating disc experiments >>> of Vladimir Samokhvalov which were available on youtube. >>> >>> >>> >> >
Re: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric
BTW, presuming things scale linearly with velocity (but it could be better) if you ran his test setup at 100,000 RPM and 500KV which still would not be the limit of plausible engineering you would have 500 Newtons of force. That's 51kg of force, which would sound enough for antigravity, and a quick trip to Mars. John On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, John Berry wrote: > Very similar to my ideas. > > This is the same line of thinking that can produce a conclusion of > negative impedance in a non-inductive coil with a high negative charge. > > I had never studied the idea for propulsive forces. > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM, H Ucar wrote: > >> http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/specifications >> >> >> The website of Richard Banduric show a device producing 0.1 Newton >> thrust. The setup remind me rotating disc experiments >> of Vladimir Samokhvalov which were available on youtube. >> >> >> >
Re: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric
Very similar to my ideas. This is the same line of thinking that can produce a conclusion of negative impedance in a non-inductive coil with a high negative charge. I had never studied the idea for propulsive forces. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM, H Ucar wrote: > http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/specifications > > > The website of Richard Banduric show a device producing 0.1 Newton thrust. > The setup remind me rotating disc experiments of Vladimir Samokhvalov which > were available on youtube. > > >
RE: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric
http://displacementfieldtechnologies.com/specifications The website of Richard Banduric show a device producing 0.1 Newton thrust. The setup remind me rotating disc experiments of Vladimir Samokhvalov which were available on youtube.
[Vo]:learning LENR PRO action from V. Vysotskii
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/12/dec-12-2015-lenr-pro-campaign-learning.html this is just a start of an idea Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric
Ron, nice citation, supports relativistic interpretations as a factor in all these anomalies, Podkletnov’s spinning superconductor comes to mind first, then Jan Naudts paper on relativistic hydrogen, then Shawyers EM drive but beyond that I think it may provide the math we need to understand the linkage between charged ions in suppressed cavities wrt inertial frames. IMHO Casimir effect is relativistic and the longer vacuum wavelengths twist spacetime to fit in the cavity such that hydrogen ions experience equivalent velocities exceeding the real velocities the authors quoted of their spinning charges on a rotating disk. This would make the hallmark black light observed by Mills a function of Lorentzian transformation. The other important contribution of this paper is that it provides the framework for a linkage between inertial fields which is beyond my pay grade but I have made the point previously that no one would object to breaches in COE if you could somehow divide actions and reactions between disparate inertial frames without the square law penalty… Although The authors are focused on unbalancing reactions and reactions thru Lorentzian translations in a seeming bid for inertialess drive the same mechanism may be the basis for harnessing ZPE by linking reactions between inertial frames using HUP as the drive mechanism and hydrogen ions as the moving particles only in this case it is equivalent acceleration provided by the tapestry of different Casimir geometries trumping the isotropy. Fran From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 12:32 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Electric Rocket-like Propulsion Patent Application by Banduric Greetings Vortex-L, No results are given: http://pdfaiw.uspto.gov/.aiw?PageNum=0&docid=20140009098&IDKey=2E022445F1EE&HomeUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fappft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%25252Fnetahtml%25252FPTO%25252Fsearch-bool.html%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526co1%3DAND%2526d%3DPG01%2526s1%3D%252522banduric%252Brichard%252522%2526OS%3D%252522banduric%252Brichard%252522%2526RS%3D%252522banduric%252Brichard%252522 Ad astra, Ron Kita,Chiralex Doylestown, PA
