Re: [Vo]:Galactic cosmic rays, solar activity and the climate

[H LV]

Hi,
I can`t offer any clarification.
I posted this link a while ago just to offer some alternative ideas on the
subject of climate change.

Harry

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 3:35 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Harry—
>
>
>
> The following is taken from the news item by Svensmark:
>
>
>
> ·  When the sun is dormant, magnetically speaking, there are more cosmic
> rays and more low clouds, and the world is cooler.
>
> ·  When the sun is active, fewer cosmic rays
>  reach the Earth and, with fewer low
> clouds , the planet warms up
>
>
>
> The 2 bullets are confusing, because the parameters associated with the
> sun dormancy and activity are not the same.
>
>
>
> Svensmark seems to say the dormancy is associated with magnetic storms;
> but he does not indicate a measurable parameter associated with the Sun’s
> activity.
>
>
>
> The following link is instructive regarding this question and of interest
> regarding a hot and cold Earth.
>
>
>
> *http://lasp.colorado.edu/sorce/news/2010ScienceMeeting/doc/Session1/1.06_Lal_35KYr.pdf
> *
>
>
>
> *It is entitled:*
>
>
>
> Direct measurements of solar activity in the past 35,000 years
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> 
>
> *From: *Jürg Wyttenbach 
> *Sent: *Friday, April 3, 2020 1:23 PM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Galactic cosmic rays, solar activity and the climate
>
>
>
> Positive and negative aerosols should mutually attract.
>
>
>
> This is modeled as a continuous growth function... albeit when a +-
> condense the result is most likely a neutral particle that is no longer
> attractive ...
>
>
>
> I think people that did miss basic lessons should stop writing papers.
>
>
>
> J.W.
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> Am 03.04.20 um 22:02 schrieb David Jonsson:
>
> Here another guy who says particles from galaxy clouds change our climate
>
> https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2004GL021890
>
> The periodicity is 100 Myr and 1 Gyr.
>
>
>
> I asked on Physics Stack Exchange about particles from space and how much
> is required to form permanent cloud layers but the censors removed the
> question saying it was unrealistic.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:18 PM H LV  wrote:
>
> Svensmark continues to build a case for his galactic view on climate
> change.
>
>
>
> https://phys.org/news/2017-12-link-stars-clouds-climate-earth.html
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
>
>
>
> Paper in Nature (Dec. 2017)
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jürg Wyttenbach
>
> Bifangstr.22
>
> 8910 Affoltern a.A.
>
> 044 760 14 18
>
> 079 246 36 06
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Better than N95

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Terry—

Does you dog sniff and turn away?

Bob

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Terry Blanton
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 2:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Better than N95



On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:51 PM 
bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Terry and Jones—

You 2 must be the best read fictionadoes I’ve come across. :)

Bob Cook

I can't speak for Mr. Beene; but, personally, I'm so full of it, my eyes are 
brown.

Cheers!

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Terry Blanton]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 6:25 PM  wrote:

>
> I wonder if a cocktail of all 7 would be reasonable?
>

Depends on the results.  I read of one trial which already showed the
vaccine to be unsafe.  It excited the same cytokine storm as the disease
even though it was just components of a virion, not the whole thing.

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[mixent]

In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 5 Apr 2020 12:53:57 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>Bill Gates' noble effort:
>
>https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-factories-7-different-vaccines-to-fight-coronavirus-2020-4


I wonder if a cocktail of all 7 would be reasonable?
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Terry Blanton]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:51 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Terry and Jones—
>
>
>
> You 2 must be the best read fictionadoes I’ve come across. :)
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>

I can't speak for Mr. Beene; but, personally, I'm so full of it, my eyes
are brown.

Cheers!

RE: [Vo]:Better than N95

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Terry and Jones—

You 2 must be the best read fictionadoes I’ve come across. :)

Bob Cook

-
From: Terry Blanton
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:54 AM
To: magicso...@aol.com; 
vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

Bill Gates' noble effort:

https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-factories-7-different-vaccines-to-fight-coronavirus-2020-4

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:53 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
No.  You need to protect yourself assuming all is true.  Then you will survive 
to say, "I told you so."

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:29 PM AlanG 
mailto:magicso...@aol.com>> wrote:
It's a scary prospect if the findings are accurate. But there's no mention in 
the article of any control measurements or the error bands of the measurement 
techniques. For example, simple testing of the collection process by sampling 
known sterile areas seems to me an essential part of any such study. False 
positives need to be eliminated before concluding the spread of the virus is 
essentially ubiquitous and inescapable.
On 4/4/2020 9:15 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:


On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:50 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You didn't read the articles.  The issue is not sneezing!

It is breathing.  And talking.

Here, read this article carefully:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.23.20039446v2.full.pdf

You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and 
experienced her nice perfume.  If she was shedding virus at that time you are 
likely infected even if both of you were wearing a cloth mask.

RE: [Vo]:Galactic cosmic rays, solar activity and the climate

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Harry—

The following is taken from the news item by Svensmark:

•  When the sun is dormant, magnetically speaking, there are more cosmic rays 
and more low clouds, and the world is cooler.
•  When the sun is active, fewer cosmic 
rays reach the Earth and, with fewer low 
clouds, the planet warms up

The 2 bullets are confusing, because the parameters associated with the sun 
dormancy and activity are not the same.

Svensmark seems to say the dormancy is associated with magnetic storms; but he 
does not indicate a measurable parameter associated with the Sun’s activity.

The following link is instructive regarding this question and of interest 
regarding a hot and cold Earth.

http://lasp.colorado.edu/sorce/news/2010ScienceMeeting/doc/Session1/1.06_Lal_35KYr.pdf

It is entitled:

Direct measurements of solar activity in the past 35,000 years

Bob Cook


From: Jürg Wyttenbach
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 1:23 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Galactic cosmic rays, solar activity and the climate

Positive and negative aerosols should mutually attract.

This is modeled as a continuous growth function... albeit when a +- condense 
the result is most likely a neutral particle that is no longer attractive ...

I think people that did miss basic lessons should stop writing papers.

J.W.




Am 03.04.20 um 22:02 schrieb David Jonsson:
Here another guy who says particles from galaxy clouds change our climate
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2004GL021890
The periodicity is 100 Myr and 1 Gyr.

I asked on Physics Stack Exchange about particles from space and how much is 
required to form permanent cloud layers but the censors removed the question 
saying it was unrealistic.


On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:18 PM H LV 
mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Svensmark continues to build a case for his galactic view on climate change.

https://phys.org/news/2017-12-link-stars-clouds-climate-earth.html


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2

Paper in Nature (Dec. 2017)
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2



--

Jürg Wyttenbach

Bifangstr.22

8910 Affoltern a.A.

044 760 14 18

079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Terry Blanton]

Bill Gates' noble effort:

https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-factories-7-different-vaccines-to-fight-coronavirus-2020-4


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:53 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> No.  You need to protect yourself assuming all is true.  Then you will
> survive to say, "I told you so."
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:29 PM AlanG  wrote:
>
>> It's a scary prospect if the findings are accurate. But there's no
>> mention in the article of any control measurements or the error bands of
>> the measurement techniques. For example, simple testing of the collection
>> process by sampling known sterile areas seems to me an essential part of
>> any such study. False positives need to be eliminated before concluding the
>> spread of the virus is essentially ubiquitous and inescapable.
>>
>> On 4/4/2020 9:15 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:50 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>>
>>> You didn't read the articles.  The issue is not sneezing!
>>>
>>> It is breathing.  And talking.
>>>
>>
>> Here, read this article carefully:
>>
>> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.23.20039446v2.full.pdf
>>
>> You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and
>> experienced her nice perfume.  If she was shedding virus at that time you
>> are likely infected even if both of you were wearing a cloth mask.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Terry Blanton]

No.  You need to protect yourself assuming all is true.  Then you will
survive to say, "I told you so."

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:29 PM AlanG  wrote:

> It's a scary prospect if the findings are accurate. But there's no
> mention in the article of any control measurements or the error bands of
> the measurement techniques. For example, simple testing of the collection
> process by sampling known sterile areas seems to me an essential part of
> any such study. False positives need to be eliminated before concluding the
> spread of the virus is essentially ubiquitous and inescapable.
>
> On 4/4/2020 9:15 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:50 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
>> You didn't read the articles.  The issue is not sneezing!
>>
>> It is breathing.  And talking.
>>
>
> Here, read this article carefully:
>
> https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.23.20039446v2.full.pdf
>
> You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and
> experienced her nice perfume.  If she was shedding virus at that time you
> are likely infected even if both of you were wearing a cloth mask.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Terry Blanton]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 9:41 AM Jones Beene  wrote:

> Reminds one of Harry Bosch leaving the morgue ... think about the
> implications of: "most smells are particulates"
>

Thanks, Jonesie!  I was wondering what I was going to binge after 'S All
Good Man!  I started Connelly's Amazon series ages ago but never finished
the first season.  Now I see there are six!

I wonder what I will do next week?  :)


> Jed Rothwell wrote:
>
>
> Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
> You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and
> experienced her nice perfume.  If she was shedding virus at that time you
> are likely infected . . .
>
>
> What if she is plain-looking? Am I safe?
>

Knowing your wife...no.

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Jones Beene]

 Reminds one of Harry Bosch leaving the morgue ... think about the implications 
of: "most smells are particulates"



Jed Rothwell wrote:  
 
 Terry Blanton  wrote:


You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and 
experienced her nice perfume.  If she was shedding virus at that time you are 
likely infected . . .

What if she is plain-looking? Am I safe?
  

Re: [Vo]:Better than N95

[Jed Rothwell]

Terry Blanton  wrote:

You may have walked in the same space a beautiful woman just passed and
> experienced her nice perfume.  If she was shedding virus at that time you
> are likely infected . . .
>

What if she is plain-looking? Am I safe?