Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread John Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "John Harris" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY




- Original Message - >>> - Original Message - From: "Peter 
Heckert"



In natural science and technology lies are not relative.
Nature is always true and cannot be in error and never lies. Humans 
can be in error and can lie.

But there is absolute truth.

And yet paradoxically nature itself is full of lies
Moths that look like bees so they are not attacked
Insects that look like twigs
Birds that look like a part of the tree they are roosting in
caterpillars with eyes on the tail end fish with wide open mouths that 
appear to be safe haven for smaller prey

and many many more.


What you mean is biological nature and human perception of it.
I think this is a projection.
There is no untruth in physical nature, it is our mind that lies.


And yet in this instance the human mind does not lie
We perceive the stick insect and watch while it lunches off the aphids that
do not perceive.
We recognize the Mopoke on the branch and watch while it makes dinner of 
the

skink that did not recognise it.
We see the reverse caterpillar and watch while the butcher bird gets its
eyes full of acetic acid because it attacked the wrong end.

The biological world is full of deception
John










Fw: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY

2011-11-06 Thread John Harris


- Original Message - 
From: "John Harris" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY




- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Heckert" 

In natural science and technology lies are not relative.
Nature is always true and cannot be in error and never lies. Humans can 
be in error and can lie.

But there is absolute truth.

And yet paradoxically nature itself is full of lies
Moths that look like bees so they are not attacked
Insects that look like twigs
Birds that look like a part of the tree they are roosting in
caterpillars with eyes on the tail end 
fish with wide open mouths that appear to be safe haven for smaller prey

and many many more.
John







Fw: [Vo]:Rossi 1MW : Why is the energy hidden behind pressboard?

2011-11-01 Thread John Harris

- Original Message - 
From: John Harris 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1MW : Why is the energy hidden behind pressboard?


Jed Wrote
Also, square reactors are a really, really bad idea.

Safety and the Rossi reactor

Have only just subscribed but been a lurker for quite a while 
so I thought to add a comment on a previous discussion about the square design 
of the 
reactor water chamber. (wrote this a while ago but didn't post it)
I think this is probably a good design at this stage of understanding of the 
reactor.
A cylinder with domed or concave ends is the prefered shape for water heaters 
and boilers but there is a good 
understanding of the maximum pressure they will be subject too and the maximum 
kW power input they will be 
expected to receive. We all know the result when someone removes the pressure 
relief or in the case of a wood 
fired boiler, fires it too enthusiastically, In this case there is a good 
likelyhood of a quite spectacular failure and
there have been cases of houses practically demolished from exploding systems. 
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bU-I2ZiML0 )
In the Rossi case we have a system where the maximum power  from the raction 
cannot be properly determined and 
maybe the possibility of thermal run-away so it is fairly well impossible to 
properly size a relief valve for a cylindrical boiler. 
A square boiler on the other hand is a good compromise, the bolted on top will 
distort and begin leaking not far past its 
design pressure, a long straight seam will fail without much overpressure and 
do so in an unspectacular fashion - a bit messy 
and dont stand in the way of the steam but there will be warning signs and the 
results will probably not be too damaging.
a rupture disk in a cylinder would offer some of the same protection but once 
again they tend to discharge quite
violently and still cant be ported to a safe location and retain their 
simplicity and integrity.

John





  - Original Message - 
  From: Jed Rothwell 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 5:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1MW : Why is the energy hidden behind pressboard?


  Man on Bridges  wrote:

In hindsight I'm glad Rossi pursued his approach of building a big system 
to be shown to the World, which can produce up to 1 MW i.s.o. of showing only a 
couple of small e-cats with only a couple of kW.



  I still disagree, vehemently. I think this is a terrible approach, from the 
business point of view. I think he wasted 10 months on this reactor. This 
reactor is entirely too big and it serves no useful purpose. It is a crude 
prototype which the customer will not be able to use for any real world 
application.


  Rossi should have done a proper test of a kilowatt scale device back in 
January. Many venture capitalists and business people have approached me since 
then, and said they would give him large sums of money and all the support he 
needs if he will only do a properly instrumented engineering test.



In fact I think Rossi did us all a tremendous favor as it just proves that 
this technology is absolutely mature and through it's basic simplicity and 
modularity. . . 


  It does not "prove" a damn thing, because he did not allow independent 
verification of the claims, and we do not even know who the customer is. It 
suggests the technology is real. It is further evidence of that, which fits in 
with previous evidence. It is not proof in the engineering or scientific sense.


  It does not look mature to me. Obviously you can use modules in this method 
but I think that is a wacky way to build a megawatt scale reactor. It has way 
too many individual modules and pipes, and way too many things that can go 
wrong and will go wrong. Many small cells integrated into a larger device would 
be better.


  Also, square reactors are a really, really bad idea.


  - Jed






[Vo]:Fw: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!‏

2011-10-29 Thread John Harris
If I where running the test I would only want one point of power input and that 
from the genset - this means that the generator must remain running to power 
the condensor fans, pumps and control electrics. If the gen set where stopped 
but there was a sizable extension cord run out from the building there would 
still be questions. Its a no win situation but I think the most practical and 
easiest to monitor solution is the gen set supplying all the power for a stand 
alone test.
John

  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Ectsnte 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:01 PM
  Subject: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!‏


  Is there any reason why there was a 500kW generator running AND hooked up to 
the E-Cat through the WHOLE test, despite the E-Cat being switched into 
"self-sustain" mode? I gave it a tiny percent chance of being possible before, 
but now there's nothing but a clear scam left of it.

  "Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction 
chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) 
you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 
MW E-Cat plant was arranged.  Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, 
they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why 
they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for 
back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the 
power levels were at all times."

  "Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running 
genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been 
connected by cables to the E-Cat."

  Source: http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/

  Anyone have an explanation? Thanks. Also, my first post here.

  -Larry





Fw: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread John Harris


Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event


Obviously told to point the camera down most of the time
Hard to fudge the input figures when the ecat is powered by a gen set - I 
like that

and very easy to work out the output with those heat exchangers.








Re: Russian Vortex

2005-09-23 Thread John Harris
If this story can be sort of interpreted it seems that this is not reformer
technology.
It seems the hydrogen is being seperated from H20 and burned along with
hydrocarbons.
Regards
JohnH
- Original Message -
From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Russian Vortex


> Tony Blair said what?
>
> Oy veh! My experts must have missed that patent
>  http://tinyurl.com/dmcpe
>
>
>
>




Re: Russian Vortex

2005-09-23 Thread John Harris
But it must be true 
It was in The People !!
even if the journalist was illiterate.
John
- Original Message - 
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Russian Vortex


> Tony Blair said what?!? Oy veh.
> 
> - Jed
> 
> 
> 



Russian Vortex

2005-09-23 Thread John Harris
Posted on OUPower.com
By dhillfort

Stories on:

http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage3478.html

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/09/two_onboard_wat.html

http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage3485.html

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16143986&method=full&siteid=93463&h
eadline=h-2-oil--name_page.html

H 2 OIL!
Blair plans WATER-fuelled cars
By Nigel Nelson
TONY Blair wants to turn Britain into the biggest producer of WATER-
powered cars - slashing the cost of motoring to an incredible penny a
mile.

Ministers will announce on Tuesday they are setting up a new UK
company to produce the revolutionary vehicles.

The firm, OM Energy Ltd, will be partly funded by the Government.

The new cars will work by using a small amount of petrol to turn
large amounts of water into hydrogen. The exciting breakthrough comes
as petrol hit a pound a litre.

A top Whitehall insider explained: "There have been hydrogen cars
before but until now it was too dangerous due to a risk of explosion.

"The beauty of this new system is that you convert water into
hydrogen in the car, which is much safer.

"It's pure genius. Water is made from two hydrogen atoms and one
oxygen atom and called H20. This new process will efficiently
separate the H from the O.

"The implications for energy saving are huge. I can't tell you how
excited we are."

The technique has been developed by Russian scientists lured to the
UK.

Whitehall officials refuse to say how much taxpayers' money has been
pumped into the new company but it is understood to be millions.

OM Energy has already filed for a worldwide patent of their new
system. Eventually it could also be used to power ships by sea water.




Re: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread John Harris
Was that a Diesel conversion?
LPG won't ignite in a CI engine so it is usual to use a small amount of
diesel (usually the idle qty) as an ignition charge.
I can see how a diesel can get 90 MPG on diesel with the LPG in addition.
Regards
JohnH
Just as a PS - you cant run a vapour through diesel injectors and it is
unusual to direct inject it, is more usual to add a set of manifold
injectors for the LPG charge.
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: 90mpg


> Exactly what I thought and told my friend. Swings and roundabouts. Also I
> can't see how the fuel injection system couldn't be modified, diesel is
> thick and viscous even liquefied gas flows easily.
>
> I don't like the idea of losing space to the tanks and I don't like the
idea
> of getting in an accident with something that could rapidly become an
> aerosol.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Noel D. Whitney
> Sent: 06 September 2005 12:01
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: 90mpg
>
> I ran a BMW 525 years ago with LPG conversion and never got a great
success
> from the conversion - You had to drive it harder to get the same engine
> effort - suggestion a lot less bang per buck from LPG
> The cost saving on fuel was offset by the "heavy foot" required to
maintain
> the same speed
> rgds
> Noel Whitney
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:23 AM
> Subject: OT: 90mpg
>
>
> Vo,
> A friend of mine who is a very good mechanical engineer reckons that the
> local gas conversion place in Biggin Hill is getting Land Rovers to do
90mpg
> on LPG with no modification to the engine (yeh!?). It costs about £800.
>
> Amazing.
> R.
>
> ...
> Website
> http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
> ...
>
>
>
>




Re: 90mpg

2005-09-06 Thread John Harris
What does he drink??
But seriously I haven't heard of an LPG conversion doing anything else than
less MPG. Is this using standard parts or some new system? 800 quid just
sounds like a usual run of the mill job, definitely not enough for anything
major.
Can you get the name of the conversion place for us?
Regards
JohnH
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:23 PM
Subject: OT: 90mpg


> Vo,
> A friend of mine who is a very good mechanical engineer reckons that the
> local gas conversion place in Biggin Hill is getting Land Rovers to do
90mpg
> on LPG with no modification to the engine (yeh!?). It costs about £800.
>
> Amazing.
> R.
>
> ...
> Website
> http://luna.bton.ac.uk/~roc1
> ...
>
>
>




Re: Beta-atmosphere and the Cavity Magnetron

2005-08-22 Thread John Harris
Didn't used to have that problem in a sailplane ;-)

- Original Message -
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Beta-atmosphere and the Cavity Magnetron
> There was one in Chicago.  But it wasn't a vortex - the engine fell off on
one side.
>





Re: Beta-atmosphere and the Cavity Magnetron

2005-08-22 Thread John Harris
Hi Frank
Back in the 70's I used to fly Gliders (sailplanes) out of Gawler in South
Australia under the flightpath of the Edinborough Airforce Base. It used to
get quite exciting when one was at the 1900ft ceiling and the caribou's came
through with supposedly a 2000 ft floor but felt more like a beat up.
I think its a fairly long stretch though to compare what can happen when a
vortice destroys the lift over one wing of an aircraft and flips it to
suggesting the same can happen to a 60 lb round cannonball.
Even the vortice off the tips of the small tow plane (usually a Piper Cub in
those days) could give you a hard time when going from "low tow" below the
tug to "High tow" above the tug if one was careless.
I am not suggesting the effect is not real - but I would suggest caution in
using this analogy.
One suprising thing was how long the vortices lasted after they where
generated - I have flown into them at least 10Km behind the generating
aircraft.
Regards
JohnH
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From: "Grimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: Beta-atmosphere and the Cavity Magnetron


> At 06:58 am 22/08/2005 +0100, Frank wrote:
>
> 
> >
> >The first sentence of Shoulders "The Ugly" section reads,
> >
> > =
> > I think Hell has not a clue as to the fury of a bunch
> > of electrons suddenly unleashed.
> > =
> >
> >Could an Alpha-atmosphere smoke ring (closed vortex) be seen
> >as "furious"; more furious that is than simply blowing out a
> >candle?
> >
> >Very definitely if the vortex is big enough. There have been
> >instances where vortices shed by large airliners, such as
> >the 747 have tipped over smaller airliners following in their
> >wake.
> >
> >To be continued
> >
> >Frank Grimer
>
>
> Having mentioned Hutchison previously in this thread I
> thought I had better revisit his stuff though not with
> any great enthusiasm since when I first investigated it
> I was appalled by his hopelessly disorganised approach.
> Fortunately, the first reference I came across was a
> concise summary of the work - NOT written by Hutchison.  8-)
>
> ==
> The Hutchison Effect -- An Explanation
> by Mark A. Solis
>
>  People often ask, "What exactly is the Hutchison Effect?"
> This brief essay is an attempt to answer that question to the
> satisfaction of the majority.
>  First of all, the Hutchison Effect is a collection of
> phenomena which were discovered accidentally by John Hutchison
> during attempts to study the longitudinal waves of Tesla back
> in 1979.  In other words, the Hutchison Effect is not simply a
> singular effect.  It is many.
>  The Hutchison Effect occurs as the result of radio wave
> interferences in a zone of spatial volume encompassed by high
> voltage sources, usually a Van de Graff generator, and two or
> more Tesla coils.
>  The effects produced include levitation of heavy objects,
> fusion of dissimilar materials such as metal and wood (exactly
> as portrayed in the movie, "The Philadelphia Experiment"), the
> anomalous heating of metals without burning adjacent material,
> spontaneous fracturing of metals (which separate by sliding in
> a sideways fashion), and both temporary and permanent changes
> in the crystalline structure and physical properties of metals.
>  The levitation of heavy objects by the Hutchison Effect
> is not---repeat not---the result of simple electrostatic or
> electromagnetic levitation.  Claims that these forces alone
> can explain the phenomenon are patently ridiculous, and easily
> disproved by merely trying to use such methods to duplicate
> what the Hutchison Effect has achieved, which has been well
> documented both on film and videotape, and has been witnessed
> many times by numerous credentialed scientists and engineers.
> Challengers should note that their apparatus must be limited
> to the use of 75 Watts of power from a 120 Volt AC outlet, as
> that is all that is used by Hutchison's apparatus to levitate
> a 60-pound cannon ball.
>  The fusion of dissimilar materials, which is exceedingly
> remarkable, indicates clearly that the Hutchison Effect has a
> powerful influence on Van der Waals forces.  In a striking and
> baffling contradiction, dissimilar substances can simply "come
> together," yet the individual substances do not dissociate.  A
> block of wood can simply "sink into" a metal bar, yet neither
> the metal bar nor the block of wood come apart.  Also, there
> is no evidence of displacement, such as would occur if, for
> example, one were to sink a stone into a bowl of water.
>  The anomalous heating of metal without any evidence of
> burning or scorching of the adjacent materials (usually wood)
> is a clear indication that possibly the nature of heat may not
> be completely understood.  This has far

Re: MAHG is a 3 Port Device

2005-08-16 Thread John Harris
- Original Message -
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The "oil filter" housing lead is the one I referenced in this thread.
There are also two other electrical connections at the base.  One appears to
feed the "cathode" grid and the other seems to feed the center rod, what I
am calling the "anode":
>
> http://jlnlabs.imars.com/mahg/diagram.htm
>
> Note in the ou tests, it appears there is no connection to the "oil
filter".

Refering to Pages 3.501.205 & 3.558.149 it is fairly clear that the centre
rod you refer to is the connection to one end of the cathode grid (No4 on
3.558.149) and the other end of the cathode grid is No2 on 3.558.149.
This means the connections they are using now is from No 2 to No 4 to heat
the cathode element. and as you said there is no anode connection.

Regards
JohnH




Re: Re: MAHG is a 3 Port Device

2005-08-15 Thread John Harris
What is this "centre anode " part?

>From my limited understanding the W grid is a heated cathode and the
Sputtered Copper housing is the Anode.

Although there was originally some attemp to run a cathode - anode pulsed or
wave form signal this seems to have been abandoned in favour of a pulsed
heating current to the cathode.

Was The MAHG ever built as a triode ?  My understanding of a triode is that
it had a separate plate in the ion stream to modify the output to the anode.
this doesn't appear to have ever been the case.

One measurement that doesn't seem to have been made and would be interesting
is  the differential from cathode to anode and if there is  an excess of
electrons being carried across in the hydrogen stream. I think tungsten was
chosen in the original tube because it is an excellent electron emitter and
this effect doesn't appear to have been measured in the MAHG.
Regards
JohnH

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From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Re: MAHG is a 3 Port Device


> > From: "Jones Beene"
>
> > Although the original device (and the Svetlana tube) was a
> > triode, if you look at the dates of those photos, they are
> > back in Dec '03. It looks like the present approach is diode
> > and that the RF triode was abandoned some time ago and the
> > present config is diode w/ no RF input
>
> Agreed.  But it is really important to know if the W grid is electrically
connected to the center anode.
>
> > We all await the imminent update
>
> You know something we don't?
>
> The Silence of the Labs is getting suspicious.
>
>




Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread John Harris

- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids


> Since when did Australia become a socialist country.  ;-)

No - Still a overcontrolled duplexed monocracy :-)

JohnH




Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids

2005-08-12 Thread John Harris

- Original Message -
From: "Terry Blanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: IEEE Article on Plug-In Hybrids
>
> Unfortunately, this would likely not be the case without some incentives.
Most people would pull into their garage and plug in their charger thus
adding to the peak load in the summer.  They would need an incentive to plug
in before going to bed.
>
Power utility controlled switching is used many places to control water
heaters etc. easy to put another controlled point in the garage so the
utility can switch the car on when the load is needed.
Regards
JohnH




Re: Hydrogen enegetics

2005-08-03 Thread John Harris
Thanks Jones
I will Investigate. That looks Ideal
JohnH
- Original Message - 
From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: Hydrogen enegetics


> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Harris"
> 
> > The problem
> > I need to reduce the oxygen content below stoichiometric
> to leave some
> > hydrogen for the atomic reaction . Can anyone suggest any
> simple way ?
> 
> Gore-Tex
> 
> Gore-Tex will pass all of the hydrogen immediately but only
> some of the oxygen (actually it will pass the O2 eventually
> but at a much slower rate, so you need to set it up as a
> filtering system). It might take two or more layers to get
> to the ratio you want - so you will have to work by trial
> and error. The Gore company also makes dedicated proton
> membranes, for which you will pay approximately 500 times
> more for almost the same thing with a few milligrams of Pd
> added..
> 
> Jones
> 
> 
> 




Hydrogen enegetics

2005-08-03 Thread John Harris
After my suggestion to Svein I decided to revisit my plasma experimemts and
burn the produced hydrogen in an arc along the lines Bertho is
investigating.

My plasma generator (the protype is in the photos on JLN's yahoo group)
produces 2H2 O2 mixed in a forced flow design with NaOH electrolyte- the
prototype used thermosyphon circulation.

The problem
I need to reduce the oxygen content below stoichiometric to leave some
hydrogen for the atomic reaction . Can anyone suggest any simple way ?
I think I will have limited success diverting some of the flow past the
anode to a seperate outlet, but the flow is quite turbulent in this region
with a lot of mixing going on and this solution requires some redesign of
the reactor.
Thanks for your input
JohnH




Re: mars rovers

2005-07-29 Thread John Harris
I'd add direct thermal/electric to your range of output options, even the
"old" dissimilar junction devices would be an option for low power work as
the weight and reliability may be more important than output. and there are
of course solid state devices - whether these fall into the category of
"heat engine"  is debatable.
Regards
JohnH
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From: "Wesley Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 4:48 PM
Subject: mars rovers


> I'm attending an Australian Mars Society conference AMEC 2005 on Mars
> rovers and exploration.
> http://www.marssociety.org.au/
> I'm going to mention LENR to those at the conference. There is still an
> opening for papers so it may be semiformal presentation. Is there
> anything I specifically should or should not say?
> The main line I will take is that:
>
> * Cold fusion work is not dead.
> * Its nuclear reactions in a solid Hydride where quantum tunneling
>   and/or electron screening effects combine to reduce the charge
>   barrier of the nuclei to low enough levels to allow Deuteron/
>   Palladium and Deuteron/ Deuteron reactions. A few grams of fuel
>   would power a vehicle for a year or so.
> * Reviewers are now acknowledging that it's a real effect, still not
>   fully reliable or understood, but some who were sceptical are now
>   less inclined to call it fraud or a mistake.
> * The Second DOE report, December 2004, gave limited [ambiguus]
>   support for the data but argue that they still could not
>   understand it. A majority of the reviewers were much more
>   receptive and positive than the person that wrote the conclusion.
>   They did say more work should be done but recommended against
>   government funding.
> * Doors are opening a little. Some of its opponents are slowly
>   coming around, conferences have been held at MIT, American
>   Physical Society, etc.
> * We have up to 40 watts thermal per cc of palladium in some
>   configurations.
> * We need people who can work on reducing the energy inputs to the
>   devices; computer controlled chemical and thermo-chemical systems.
> * We need better heat flow control so we don’t allow the cell to
>   chill down below the starting temperature. It never was room
>   temperature fusion.
> * We need people who can design and build efficient heat/steam
>   engines to convert the heat of the cells in to electricity.
> * There are several dozen companies working on it worldwide.
> * The technology could pop out of oblivion as a usable energy
>   technology at any time. It might be available to power Mars
>   operations.
> * Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Note the meeting I'll be attending is three weeks away and the dead line
> for anything formal could change at any time. Quick comments would be
> appreciated.
>
>
>




Re: Toward the Next Crusade

2005-07-18 Thread John Harris
Jed and Ed
I am in complete agreement
No need to write more
Regards
JohnH
- Original Message -
From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: Toward the Next Crusade


> RC Macaulay wrote:
>
> >An analogy can be drawn by the story of the Muslin truck driver. Should
> >the truck break down just over the hill on a dark road, the Muslim would
> >leave the truck in the middle of the road. Anyone killed by crashing into
> >the truck would be the will of Allah. However, a Christian truck driver
> >would think..
>
> I do not think much of religion, but this kind of "story" is grotesque,
> bigoted crap. No truck drivers anywhere in the world do such stupid
things.
> They would not survive! People everywhere know how to do their jobs. (On
> rare occasions a crazy or drunk truck driver might do this sort of
thing --
> but it can happen in any society.)
>
> Frankly, I think this kind of comment is unacceptable in a forum devoted
to
> objective, realistic, informed scientific discussions. I do not mind
> off-topic comments, but bigotry -- and gross ignorance of other peoples'
> cultures -- violates the scientific ethic.
>
> I should add that ancient Moslem society contributed enormously to the
> preservation and expansion of science, especially during the European dark
> ages. Moslem researchers made enormous contributions to mathematics,
> chemistry, astronomy and many other fields. The "al" in "al Qaeda" came
> into English many times in history under happier circumstances, in words
> such as algebra, alcohol, alkali and alchemy (which later morphed into
> "chemistry"). See also "zero" and our numbering system.
>
> It is one of histories greatest tragedies that over the last 600 years,
> many Moslems have turned their backs on science. But based on their
> previous history and contributions, there is absolutely no reason to think
> that rationality and science are somehow incompatible with their culture.
> On the contrary, looking at the big picture over the last 2000 years, and
> the continuing rabid opposition to things like evolution by some Christian
> sects, you might conclude that Christianity has a bigger problem.
>
> - Jed
>
>
>




Re: Allergies are apparently caused by too much cleanliness

2005-07-15 Thread John Harris
The exception that proves the rule :-)
JohnH
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Allergies are apparently caused by too much cleanliness


> 
> To Jed- I was raised on the farm-with cattle- pigs-chickens-dogs and
> cats. I have all kinds of Allergies.- George S.
> 
> 




Re: MAHG Calorimetry Glitch?

2005-07-14 Thread John Harris



 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Frederick Sparber 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:18 
  PM
  Subject: Re: MAHG Calorimetry 
  Glitch?
  Although one can conclude that MAHG is using a 
  thoriated W filament, SNIP
I think page 37 #4 of the workbook should 
lay this to rest
 
It clearly states a pure tungsten filament 
with calculations of lifetime etc.
If this be disregarded then the rest of the 
workbook can be scrapped as well
 
JohnH
 


Re: Hydrogen ICE Hybrids

2005-07-13 Thread John Harris
Terry Blanton wrote:

>Has anyone heard of any large ICEs being fueled by hydrogen?


Have a look at
http://www.cumminswestport.com/
although they only list Hythane (hydrogen enriched natural gas) in their
alternative fuels for hydrogen, rumour has it that they are hydrogen ready
and this is certainly their aim, unlike some other promises on the net they
are available off the shelf .
Biggest engine is 280HP 8.3Ltr.
Regards
JohnH