[Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!
Is there any reason why there was a 500kW generator running AND hooked up to the E-Cat through the WHOLE test, despite the E-Cat being switched into self-sustain mode? I gave it a tiny percent chance of being possible before, but now there's nothing but a clear scam left of it. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times. Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. Source: http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/ Anyone have an explanation? Thanks. Also, my first post here. -Larry
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!
In the report they reported Noise: 50 dBA, which is below normal room loudness. How could they measure this, when the generator was running all time? Am 29.10.2011 13:01, schrieb Larry Ectsnte: Is there any reason why there was a 500kW generator running AND hooked up to the E-Cat through the WHOLE test, despite the E-Cat being switched into self-sustain mode? I gave it a tiny percent chance of being possible before, but now there's nothing but a clear scam left of it. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times. Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. Source: http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/ Anyone have an explanation? Thanks. Also, my first post here. -Larry
Re: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!
It is prudent to have the generator running for safety reasons as well as to supply the control system regulating the ECATs. I would find it strange if they deactivated the generator. Also, the net fuel used during the test is a direct indication of the amount of energy from that source. This should be easy to determine. Dave -Original Message- From: Larry Ectsnte ecat0...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:00 am Subject: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours! Is there any reason why there was a 500kW generator running AND hooked up to the E-Cat through the WHOLE test, despite the E-Cat being switched into self-sustain mode? I gave it a tiny percent chance of being possible before, but now there's nothing but a clear scam left of it. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times. Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. Source: http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/ Anyone have an explanation? Thanks. Also, my first post here. -Larry
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!
It must make a big difference in noise and in heat production and in fuel consumption if the generator is running without load. It cannot go unnoticed if this was watched. Am 29.10.2011 16:22, schrieb David Roberson: It is prudent to have the generator running for safety reasons as well as to supply the control system regulating the ECATs. I would find it strange if they deactivated the generator. Also, the net fuel used during the test is a direct indication of the amount of energy from that source. This should be easy to determine. Dave -Original Message- From: Larry Ectsnte ecat0...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 8:00 am Subject: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours! Is there any reason why there was a 500kW generator running AND hooked up to the E-Cat through the WHOLE test, despite the E-Cat being switched into self-sustain mode? I gave it a tiny percent chance of being possible before, but now there's nothing but a clear scam left of it. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times. Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. Source: http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/ Anyone have an explanation? Thanks. Also, my first post here. -Larry
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If I where running the test I would only want one point of power input and that from the genset - this means that the generator must remain running to power the condensor fans, pumps and control electrics. If the gen set where stopped but there was a sizable extension cord run out from the building there would still be questions. Its a no win situation but I think the most practical and easiest to monitor solution is the gen set supplying all the power for a stand alone test. John - Original Message - From: Larry Ectsnte To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:01 PM Subject: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours! Is there any reason why there was a 500kW generator running AND hooked up to the E-Cat through the WHOLE test, despite the E-Cat being switched into self-sustain mode? I gave it a tiny percent chance of being possible before, but now there's nothing but a clear scam left of it. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times. Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. Source: http://pesn.com/2011/10/28/9501940_1_MW_E-Cat_Test_Successful/ Anyone have an explanation? Thanks. Also, my first post here. -Larry
[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Fw: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours!
And those kinds of gensets have watt-hour meters as well… -m From: John Harris [mailto:jfhar...@dodo.com.au] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:33 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Fw: [Vo]:500kW generator was also running during the 5 hours! If I where running the test I would only want one point of power input and that from the genset - this means that the generator must remain running to power the condensor fans, pumps and control electrics. If the gen set where stopped but there was a sizable extension cord run out from the building there would still be questions. Its a no win situation but I think the most practical and easiest to monitor solution is the gen set supplying all the power for a stand alone test. John
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That the E-Cat operates without much noise is good news, and expected considering only a muffled boiling noise is expected. Maybe they took a sound reading from inside the reactor using a noise canceling mic and/or closed the container doors. Maybe it was just an educated guess of little importance, compared to the other aspects of the test they were evaluating. - Brad In the report they reported Noise: 50 dBA, which is below normal room loudness. How could they measure this, when the generator was running all time?
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Maybe the generator was just idle, this is why it wasn`t making too much noise. One of these days, I went near the electric generator of my office`s new building and it was extremely noisy when it was on full power. Most of the time it is inaudible... 2011/10/30 ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com That the E-Cat operates without much noise is good news, and expected considering only a muffled boiling noise is expected. Maybe they took a sound reading from inside the reactor using a noise canceling mic and/or closed the container doors. Maybe it was just an educated guess of little importance, compared to the other aspects of the test they were evaluating. - Brad In the report they reported Noise: 50 dBA, which is below normal room loudness. How could they measure this, when the generator was running all time?
