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On 7/18/07, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > I should add that the optimists in the free-energy world need not > be totally disheartened with the "stunningly exactly zero" verdict, > as this only underlines the necessity of finding, and building on, > a basic asymmetry - which has always been the challenge. For sure. The "stunning" part is because the black holes get to have the cake and eat it too. Mass-energy is stored away in the singularity exactly as fast as it is radiated away. Now *that* is free energy! The practical problem is the need to be around one of those all eating things to get the energy. If one got lose into the earth it would be bye-bye earth - assuming the theory is right of course. I worry about the Large Hadron Collider. They assume the black holes it creates will evaporate. I'm not so sure about that. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ The award winning author, David Brin, discusses the ramifications of when one of these little critters accidentally escapes a research lab and starts whizzing about inside the core of our energy starved planet. Read about this frightening scenario in Brin's novel "Earth". http://www.amazon.com/Earth-David-Brin/dp/055329024X http://www.davidbrin.com/othersfbooks.html There's a humorous chapter in this novel, set about 50 years into the future, where a huge debate unfolds on what to do with all of Los Angeles's accumulated 20th century garbage languishing away in a massive landfills. Economics eventually wins out and a brand new gold rush to California is born as various companies start bidding for the rights to process the spoils of 20th century "waste". The spoils were considered far too valuable to remain locked up underground, to slowly transform via metamorphosis over millions of years into strange new compounds. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
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Some calabi-yau images: http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&q=calabi+yau&btnG=Search+Images http://snipurl.com/1ogyr On 7/18/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Damn the thought police, full speed behind... > this underlines the necessity of finding, and building on, a basic > asymmetry - which has always been the challenge. Speaking of basic asymmetries: Are spin-waves at the nano level, one such potential asymmetry, which can be harnessed ? : http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/techbeat/tb2006_0831.htm ... and speaking of 'visualizing' -- how spin waves can be 'hidden' or 'enfolded' in the creation of virtual-dual-pairs Not sure if the following image will help - or will even be be available unless you are a member of Harti's forum. I found it intuitive. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2764.0;attach=10571;image This is ostensibly a spinor ... courtesy of M. Snoswell in an interesting thread of postings on an unrelated device (personally, I remain skeptical on that device itself, but join the forum if you find it worthwhile) ... and... yes, it is ostensibly unrelated to Horace's recent postulate of dual pairs. But, on the off-chance that it is helpful... and the police don't clam it up first... Jones
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Damn the thought police, full speed behind... this underlines the necessity of finding, and building on, a basic asymmetry - which has always been the challenge. Speaking of basic asymmetries: Are spin-waves at the nano level, one such potential asymmetry, which can be harnessed ? : http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/techbeat/tb2006_0831.htm ... and speaking of 'visualizing' -- how spin waves can be 'hidden' or 'enfolded' in the creation of virtual-dual-pairs Not sure if the following image will help - or will even be be available unless you are a member of Harti's forum. I found it intuitive. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2764.0;attach=10571;image This is ostensibly a spinor ... courtesy of M. Snoswell in an interesting thread of postings on an unrelated device (personally, I remain skeptical on that device itself, but join the forum if you find it worthwhile) ... and... yes, it is ostensibly unrelated to Horace's recent postulate of dual pairs. But, on the off-chance that it is helpful... and the police don't clam it up first... Jones
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On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote: I should add that the optimists in the free-energy world need not be totally disheartened with the "stunningly exactly zero" verdict, as this only underlines the necessity of finding, and building on, a basic asymmetry - which has always been the challenge. For sure. The "stunning" part is because the black holes get to have the cake and eat it too. Mass-energy is stored away in the singularity exactly as fast as it is radiated away. Now *that* is free energy! The practical problem is the need to be around one of those all eating things to get the energy. If one got lose into the earth it would be bye-bye earth - assuming the theory is right of course. I worry about the Large Hadron Collider. They assume the black holes it creates will evaporate. I'm not so sure about that. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: Gravimagnetics continues to slowly evolve http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf OK this is the fifth iteration of this paper downloaded recently, so I had to come up with a new filing algorithm to keep from clogging up my HD with duplicates ;-) However, this one was worth it, if only for this snippet: Matter-antimatter pairs created from the vacuum carry the same gravitational charge. Gravitational charge thus appears to not be conserved. There is a convenient and highly unanticipated resolution to this problem. When a matter-antimatter pair is created from the vacuum there is always simultaneously created a mirror matter-antimatter pair. Call such a foursome a *dual pair*. Further, having negative gravitational charge, the mirror matter-mirror antimatter pair represents negative energy. Thus is provided a significant new interpretation of the Dirac equation negative energy. Further, the net energy created from the vacuum double pair formation (initially anyway) is stunningly exactly zero. ... Correct or incorrect - it is too early to even opine, as this is one of those pregnant ideas which needs to gestate - it is most provacative. J. I should add that the optimists in the free-energy world need not be totally disheartened with the "stunningly exactly zero" verdict, as this only underlines the necessity of finding, and building on, a basic asymmetry - which has always been the challenge.
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Horace Heffner wrote: My posts through google groups to sci.astro are suddenly not making it there any more, even though groups says they are. Karma. > Hmmm... should I be paranoid?? Yes. Or maybe I never really existed at all... Mentally? ;-) BTW, it's called javascript.
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My posts through google groups to sci.astro are suddenly not making it there any more, even though groups says they are. Hmmm... should I be paranoid?? Well, if these things disappear along with me then you'll know I got zapped... http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/PioneerAnom.pdf Or maybe I never really existed at all... Let's see, if nothing is wrong then being paranoid is whacko. If something is out of kilter then I'm still whacko. I'm obviously of the lunatic fringe, so there's nothing abnormal about being whacko. No matter how you cut it I end up whacko. H lose... or lose... I prefer the option of one pizza ... or two pizza's. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Gravimagnetics continues to slowly evolve, as I dunder and blunder my way along, especially from page 28 to 33: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf Some snippets of fairly new material follows. There is a seeming problem regarding the conservation of gravitational charge. Matter-antimatter pairs created from the vacuum carry the same gravitational charge. Gravitational charge thus appears to not be conserved. There is a convenient and highly unanticipated resolution to this problem. When a matter-antimatter pair is created from the vacuum there is always simultaneously created a mirror matter-antimatter pair. Call such a foursome a *dual pair*. Further, having negative gravitational charge, the mirror matter-mirror antimatter pair represents negative energy. Thus is provided a significant new interpretation of the Dirac equation negative energy. Further, the net energy created from the vacuum double pair formation (initially anyway) is stunningly exactly zero. ... In normal (weak field magnitude) circumstances, when it comes to the flat space Dirac equation, the interaction Hamiltonians, etc., the gravitational universe, consisting entirely of imaginary quantites, can be viewed as completely independent for computational purposes, and then consolidated. The exact same equations can be applied to the gravitational portion of the computation in order to derive the gravitational forces, energies, waveforms, etc. The gravitational formulations are completely independent of the electromagnetic formulations. They are isomorphic, so the same equations are used, though with the isomorphism substitutions as defined. The results, however, are not similar in handedness or magnitude, because, though the equations are all formally identical, there are imaginary values coming into play, and h_g = - h, G is used instead of the Coulomb constant, etc. Because the gravitational charge and EM charge are bound together, the forces can be summed to characterize a fermion, or to characterize a boson-fermion interaction as a whole. The Hamiltonians exist independently and energy conservation results in both universes. ... Note that any sized black hole with mass occupying a point has, for some finite radius, a volume in which the field strength is sufficient for double pair creation to take place. As the mass of a black hole increases, the radius of this mass spawning sphere increases. For this reason, essentially every black hole spawns mass from the vacuum, and thus simultaneously builds its own mass. Also for this reason, spawning black holes, using the Large Hadron Collider, for example, may be far more dangerous than anyone expects. ... BLACK HOLES RADIATE Black holes consisting of mirror matter create dual pairs, as described above, and absorb the negative gravitational energy of the mirror pair. The real pair is then ejected in one form or another, either as a matter pair, or as a pair of real photons. Analogous effects occur from real (as opposed to mirror matter) black holes. The smaller the black hole, the greater the proportion of energy ejected that should be in the form of photons. In any case, most of the mass-energy ejected should be in the form of photons due to the high probability of (like gravitationally charged) pair annihilation. These gravitationally emitted photons will have energy levels that indicate the (positive) gravitational potential of the radius at which they were formed. Further, the radiant mass-energy of a mirror black hole not feeding on other bodies provides a direct indicator of the rate of mass increase of that black hole due to dual pair creation, because the two mass-energy flow rates are equal. This radiant energy is *not* Hawking radiation. Its origin is not the event horizon, but rather the interior of the black hole, and its spectrum provides information about conditions inside the black hole, including its mass and the dual pair formation flux at various radii r. Negative gravitational matter is utterly unaffected by an event horizon. Dual pair initiated radiation is comparatively invisible when coming from an ordinary matter black hole because the radiation is mostly mirror radiation. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 15, 2007, at 9:25 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:55 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Last night I visited the Chukanov Energy site. I noticed that there is an animation on gravity, the solar system, and the Pioneer craft. Do you have the URL of the animatiom? www.chukanovenergy.com , page about 1/4 of the way down. It takes a while for tha animation to load. I don't think I want to leave my computer exposed while the infantile dialog stuff plays out letter by letter with the music. If he had something worthwhile to say you'd think he would just say it in a professional manner. Yah, I turned my speakers off, I do this on a regular basis when I access an interesting website with music. I can only say that I found the animation interesting. I would have failed to notice the whole thing, had I not let the machine run unattended. If you're worried about virus, you need a better fire wall. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
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On Jul 15, 2007, at 9:25 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:55 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Last night I visited the Chukanov Energy site. I noticed that there is an animation on gravity, the solar system, and the Pioneer craft. Do you have the URL of the animatiom? www.chukanovenergy.com , page about 1/4 of the way down. It takes a while for tha animation to load. I don't think I want to leave my computer exposed while the infantile dialog stuff plays out letter by letter with the music. If he had something worthwhile to say you'd think he would just say it in a professional manner. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:55 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Last night I visited the Chukanov Energy site. I noticed that there is an animation on gravity, the solar system, and the Pioneer craft. Do you have the URL of the animatiom? www.chukanovenergy.com , page about 1/4 of the way down. It takes a while for tha animation to load. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
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On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:55 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Last night I visited the Chukanov Energy site. I noticed that there is an animation on gravity, the solar system, and the Pioneer craft. Do you have the URL of the animatiom? Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: The pioneer anomaly stuff is now removed to a separate paper: Last night I visited the Chukanov Energy site. I noticed that there is an animation on gravity, the solar system, and the Pioneer craft. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
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The Gravimagnetics continues to slowly evolve, now taking some of its first baby steps into general relativity, especially from page 30 on: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf The pioneer anomaly stuff is now removed to a separate paper: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/PioneerAnom.pdf and some of the fun old stuff can still be found at: http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/OldGravimag.pdf Horace Heffner
