Re: [Vo]:Krivit's Napoli visit? To all Italian-reading Vorts
The project described in this post supports and extends my understanding of what is going on in the Rossi reactor. First off, the use of potassium as an alkaline catalyst supports my belief that Rossi is using some alkaline based catalyst like potassium as his “secret catalyst”. Potassium produces Rydberg hydrogen matter as a cold plasma which eventually arrive at the surface of the cathode where nuclear reactions supported by the quantum mechanical actions of coherent and entangled atoms occur. The next implication to be drawn from this tungsten based experiment is that the Rossi reaction is exclusively a surface reaction which occurs right on top of the surface of the cathode. Tungsten does not allow hydrogen to penetrate its surface. A significant percentage of the nuclear reactions must be occurring right at the very top of the tungsten surface when the reaction first begins. As the reaction erodes the surface, the surface area of the tungsten increases an so does the reaction in like proportion. This supports my view that the great productivity of the Rossi reaction over his contemporary competitors is in the surface preparation of his reaction vessel. He uses nickel nano powder coated on the surface of the reaction vessel to optimize the surface as prolific sites for to maximize the number of nuclear active areas. His competitors do not do this, and until they do, they will see reduced nuclear activity in their experiments. For example, if the tungsten experimenters would have coated their cathode with nano-powder (nickel or otherwise), the productivity of their experiment would be greatly enhanced. The same surface improvement could be applied to the current efforts of Brian Ahern. The chaotic chemical activity replete with oxygen in the Neapolitan tungsten based cell would tend to destroy Rydberg matter and therefore suppress the effectiveness of the reaction. On the other hand, Rossi provides a benign chemical environment that allows Rydberg matter to exist indefinitely. This too greatly increases the great productivity of the Rossi reaction. The tungsten experimenters would do well to use a high pressure hydrogen envelope like Rossi. This would increase the activity of their reaction greatly. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > At 11:28 AM 6/30/2011, Rich Murray wrote: > >> This team was competent enough to dismiss their own excess energy claims. >> >> Transmutations and isotope shifts may well be the most convincing >> evidence for low levels of LENR -- widely reported in a variety of >> setups -- has this area been reviewed in detail? -- Joshua Cude, where >> are you, we need you... >> > > Returning to PdD, excess heat is widely reported and there is, in fact, > "transmutation" reported. Often we think about transmutation in cold fusion > experiments in terms of higher-Z isotopes, but the main transmutation, for > which there is clear evidence, is deuterium to helium. Joshua hasn't been > willing to acknowledge this, so far, based on what I see as mere > technicalities, such as excluding any evidence, no matter how solid or > convincing it might be in itself, which hasn't been published in a > mainstream peer-reviewed journal. In fact, there is such publication, but > it's old. > > My sense of this is that the field, in general, doesn't care enough about > "proving" cold fusion any more, to be willing to shoulder the heavy costs > involved, in money and time. And, indeed, why should they? What, exactly, is > the problem with relying upon McKubre's reports prepared for, say, EPRI? > > But to each his own, eh? >
Re: [Vo]:Krivit's Napoli visit? To all Italian-reading Vorts
At 11:28 AM 6/30/2011, Rich Murray wrote: This team was competent enough to dismiss their own excess energy claims. Transmutations and isotope shifts may well be the most convincing evidence for low levels of LENR -- widely reported in a variety of setups -- has this area been reviewed in detail? -- Joshua Cude, where are you, we need you... Returning to PdD, excess heat is widely reported and there is, in fact, "transmutation" reported. Often we think about transmutation in cold fusion experiments in terms of higher-Z isotopes, but the main transmutation, for which there is clear evidence, is deuterium to helium. Joshua hasn't been willing to acknowledge this, so far, based on what I see as mere technicalities, such as excluding any evidence, no matter how solid or convincing it might be in itself, which hasn't been published in a mainstream peer-reviewed journal. In fact, there is such publication, but it's old. My sense of this is that the field, in general, doesn't care enough about "proving" cold fusion any more, to be willing to shoulder the heavy costs involved, in money and time. And, indeed, why should they? What, exactly, is the problem with relying upon McKubre's reports prepared for, say, EPRI? But to each his own, eh?
Re: [Vo]:Krivit's Napoli visit? To all Italian-reading Vorts
This team was competent enough to dismiss their own excess energy claims. Transmutations and isotope shifts may well be the most convincing evidence for low levels of LENR -- widely reported in a variety of setups -- has this area been reviewed in detail? -- Joshua Cude, where are you, we need you...
Re: [Vo]:Krivit's Napoli visit? To all Italian-reading Vorts
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: > > To all Vorts that read/speak Italian: > > Could you please visit the website that Harry Veeder supplied and report back > to "The Collective"! > > http://www.ioriocirillo.com/eng/index.php There is little english content; but, here is one paper on the site: THE GDPE CELL Energy balance analysis (Some explanations about the energy anomalies inside the cell) September, 2008 Vincenzo Iorio, Domenico Cirillo Caserta (Italy) Abstract: The electrolytic cell we've been studying - known better as its own acronym "GDPE cell"- does not show that energy gain we initially stated in a previous report of ours. Our research team has now realized that some measurement mistakes were made, due to very high frequency energy fluctuations produced by the cell itself. Vice versa, transmutations over the tungsten cathode still need to be verified as such anomalous matter is so far detected and confirmed throughout our experiments. Description: Unfortunately, totally due to logistic reasons, this research has been carried out few hours a week: the whole work could be simply sum up in a matter of some Saturdays and Sundays as well; as result, it lasted several months. This document aims to disclose a very important considerationgrown at the end of the previous summer (2008) and, since then, it's going to require a good deal oftime to be solved with accuracy. So far, investigations about the electrolytic cell followed different paths: measurements of energy anomalies (that is the optimum efficiency which, from its initial values very close to 1.2 - 1.4, is now settled to a value higher than 2) and the transmutations into the tungsten cathode which were soon detected since the early tests at the beginning of 2004. While transmutations still remain singular phenomenon as they are very often confirmed by experience, the matter of energetic anomalies took a different tum. Since both the instruments used for outgoing thermal energy reading and the ones adopted to read the incoming electric power have been tuned to their optimum accuracy, we got the conclusion that the whole measurement test bench (we mean both the electrical and the calorimetric one) suffers intrinsic systemic errors which, to a deep analysis, does not allow to express a definite consideration about the real magnitude of the energy values involved. In a word, after a five-year experiment we fully realized that our measurement systems are not accurate and, as a consequence, all the measurements carried out so far cannot be used to provide any sort of datum about the existence of energy anomalies inherent to the phenomena, neither positive nor negative. So, let's have a deep look at the measurement system weak points and to the relevant reasons. Since the early months of 2004 (we won't mention the early experiments made at the end of summer 2003) we were fully aware that the cell itself showed its own electric characteristics establishing some very peculiar transient conditions. Measurements realized through a spectrum analyzer coupled with EM! antenna showed frequency bands hit at about 300 MHz with energy distributions up to some GHz. The cell steady conditions (strongly affected by geometric, electric and chemical specifications) are caused by an effect very similar (but not exactly the same) to the wellknown Wehnelt one. Defining the GDPE cell as the evidence ofWehnelt effect is in practice a forced way to describe how it works; nevertheless it may be a practical fashion to outline it. Towards the end of 1800, the well-known Wehnelt electrochemical switch was employed to make Rumkhorff coils working at higher dynamic regimes. And some aspects ofthe GDPE intermittent way of working are just connected to the speed of those regimes. Something similar just happens into the GDPE cell. The sudden power cut caused by reiterated cathode polarizations due to gas streams as well as to heated vapours associated with pulsating regimes of electric arch into the electrolyte, leads to discontinuous current absorptions by the cell making the instantaneous electric power measurement extremely hard. The instantaneous electric power applied to the cell is a very important parameter in order to estimate the presupposed cell efficiency. Another important parameter is the thermal energy absorbed by water which heats and leads to the electrolyte evaporation. A very accurate measurement ofthese two parameters can lead to meet the GDPE energy efficiency. The instantaneous electric power can be easily time quadrate to the whole length ofthe experiment in order to get the energy value absorbed by the cell. On the other hand, calories provided with the cell can be calculated by measuring the total amount of evaporated water as well as the cell heating during the total length ofthe test. The test has to last longer than 500 seconds in order to minimize any sort of measurement errors: usually, 1200 seconds may be the right tes
RE: [Vo]:Krivit's Napoli visit? To all Italian-reading Vorts
To all Vorts that read/speak Italian: Could you please visit the website that Harry Veeder supplied and report back to "The Collective"! http://www.ioriocirillo.com/eng/index.php Thanks in Advance, -Mark -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:00 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Krivit's Napoli visit? > > What was interesting was this comment by SK, > > "the day after I left Bologna, I went to Napoli and visited with three > Italian researchers, one of them a brilliant 33-year-old scientist who > showed me what appears to be a real working experiment (video > forthcoming), real scientific data, and real scientific conference > presentations and papers. > Once I am finished with the Rossi-Focardi-Levi story, I will report on > my new findings from this southern Italian laboratory." > > Do tell! > > -Mark This link was posted today on the facebook page for Rossi's E-cat. http://www.ioriocirillo.com/eng/index.php Could it be related? Unfortunately it requires a membership to navigate the website. Harry
