[Vo]:Kudos all around
Kudos is the translation of a Greek word meaning acclaim or praise for exceptional achievement. Of course, it applies first and foremost to Andrea Rossi, by way of Focardi, and then to the surprising Greeks, who were not exactly well-known for this kind of financial risk-taking, and who will pick up the 'publicized' tab. but also to the US taxpayer, as they (though several DoE contracts managed by LTI) - seem to have picked up most of Rossi's expenses from about 2000 to 2009 or thereabouts . and also to Alan Fletcher and the 'Fakes' site . which is the intended PR plug for this posting. He did not send me the customary fee :-) The layout of Alan's site and the information content is superb, and should become a model in this regard for future controversial work. http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v322.php If you first focus on the many ways that a controversial experiment can be faked, and then allow the viewer to weigh the evidence dispassionately, then it comes off a lot more convincingly than the 'cheerleader' kind of presentation that are issued daily by the hundreds of new online PR firms which is a phenomenon in itself. For $200 you can have your name in print with all the wild claims imaginable, sent to thousands of gullible other news sites who repackage and resend. Even top Universities are doing this. Nocera of MIT is a PR-hound-deluxe who is symptomatic of the kind of massively overly-hyped RD of modest importance - that gets out there as breakthroughs . so the top level Universities are not immune. They should put reins on these abuses. Any teenage geek these days with a PC can become a Public Relations entrepreneur - and from the looks of most of the crap coming through on 'google alerts' these days, many of these PR firms are run by gullible twenty-somethings.
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On 04/22/2011 11:40 AM, Jones Beene wrote: * Kudos * is the translation of a Greek word meaning acclaim or praise for exceptional achievement . Of course, it applies first and foremost to Andrea Rossi , by way of Focardi , and then to the surprising Greeks , who were not exactly well- know n for this kind of financial risk-taking , and who will pick up the ' publici zed ' tab ... but also to the US taxpayer, as they ( though several What th e f uck is wrong with your e-mail writer? Or is the odd spacing encoding instructions for getting Rossi's cat out of the bag? ;) Rega rds, Mauro
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From: Mauro Lacy What th e f uck is wrong with your e-mail writer? It was made by Microsoft? Or is the odd spacing encoding instructions for getting Rossi's cat out of the bag? ;) . Could be that too. The program is MS Office. It picks up the incoming font and format. It oughta' work OK, but as I am aware that it doesn't at times by seeing weird mess age s in the archives, I try to convert them from html to plain before they go out, if and when I think about it. So rr y Rega rds, Mauro
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My Gmail reader didn't notice any odd visual spacing problems with Beene's text. Nor does my MS Outlook 2007 reader. But yes, Alan's site is a valuable contribution to the cause. Thanks, Alan! Re gar ds Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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Regarding Alan's site: http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v322.php I noticed the Printable PDF version link appears to be broken. Any chance of fixing that? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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On 04/22/2011 12:38 PM, Jones Beene wrote: * From: * Mauro Lacy What th e f uck is wrong with your e-mail writer? It was made by Microsoft? Or is the odd spacing encoding instructions for getting Rossi's cat out of the bag? ;) … Could be that too. The program is MS Office. It picks up the incoming font and format. That must be. Try writing them in a decent word processor ;-) It oughta’ work OK, but as I am aware that it doesn’t at times by seeing weird mess age s in the archives, I try to convert them from html to plain before they go out, if and when I think about it. You're right: I see the odd spacing only in html, and only in your messages. I'll convert them to plain text from now on. Thanks, Mauro
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On 04/22/2011 12:38 PM, Jones Beene wrote: * From: * Mauro Lacy What th e f uck is wrong with your e-mail writer? It was made by Microsoft? Or is the odd spacing encoding instructions for getting Rossi's cat out of the bag? ;) ... Could be that too. The program is MS Office. It picks up the incoming font and format. You should seriously consider switching to plain text, or to a good html editor, Jones. If you don't believe me, look at the html part in your messages, and prepare to be horrified. Here's a the equivalent html source excerpt of the original message I quoted: P DIR=3DLTRSPAN LANG=3Den-usBFONT = FACE=3DCalibriKudos/FONT/B/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibriis/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibrithe translation of a Greek/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-us FONT FACE=3DCalibriword meaning acclaim or praise = for exceptional achievement/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri./FONT/SPAN/P P DIR=3DLTRSPAN LANG=3Den-us/SPAN/P P DIR=3DLTRSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibriOf course, it = applies first/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri = and foremost/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri = to/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri = Andrea/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibriRossi/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri,/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibriby way of Focardi/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri,/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri and then to = the/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibrisurprising/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibriGreeks/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri,/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibriwho were/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibrinot/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibriexactly well-/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibriknow/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibrin/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri for this kind of/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us = FONT FACE=3DCalibrifinancial risk-taking/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri,/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-us FONT FACE=3DCalibriand/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-us FONT FACE=3DCalibriwho/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibri will pick up = the/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibri#8216;/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibripublici/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibrized/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri#8217;/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibritab/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri#8230;/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-us FONT = FACE=3DCalibribut/FONT/SPANSPAN LANG=3Den-usFONT = FACE=3DCalibri also to the US taxpayer, as/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-us FONT FACE=3DCalibrithey/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-us FONT FACE=3DCalibri(/FONT/SPANSPAN = LANG=3Den-usFONT FACE=3DCalibrithough several Apparently, the problem with the odd spacing occurs when my mail reader (Mozilla thunderbird) tries to render that to simple html format. Besides that, you're wasting bandwidth. I mean literally, not metaphorically, of course.
RE: [Vo]:Kudos all around
From: Mauro What th e f uck is wrong with your e-mail writer? It was made by Microsoft? OK - I think I found the setting error, and am posting this - so that anyone else who has the same problem with Outlook can change the seeting in their options menu for outgoing mail. I can't ditch Outlook for a number of reasons. Another dumb thing from MS is that the setting choice is not found under the format menu. Go figure. All of my messages were set to be composed in rich text format, which is supposed to work with almost everything out there, whereas HTML does NOT work well, and rich text is better than plain text because you can keep the superscript and subscript characters and a few other nice things. The error was to allow Outlook to send it out as HTML - so in effect, I had no control over what it looked like once Outlook takes over and changes rich text to HTML. In retrospect this was simply an 'options' choice mistake, and was probably done that way because it is Microsoft's default setting. Never let MS make these choices for you :-) Thanks for bringing this up, and I hope this is the correct solution. Your potential. Our passion. Riiight Jones attachment: winmail.dat
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Kudos all aroundJones, ..the US taxpayer, as they (though several DoE contracts managed by LTI) - seem to have picked up most of Rossi's expenses from about 2000 to 2009 or thereabouts .. Could you offer a reference on the Rossi/DOE funding, would like to learn more. Thanks. Jay Caplan - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: [Vo]:Kudos all around Kudos is the translation of a Greek word meaning acclaim or praise for exceptional achievement. Of course, it applies first and foremost to Andrea Rossi, by way of Focardi, and then to the surprising Greeks, who were not exactly well-known for this kind of financial risk-taking, and who will pick up the 'publicized' tab. but also to the US taxpayer, as they (though several DoE contracts managed by LTI) - seem to have picked up most of Rossi's expenses from about 2000 to 2009 or thereabouts . and also to Alan Fletcher and the 'Fakes' site . which is the intended PR plug for this posting. He did not send me the customary fee J The layout of Alan's site and the information content is superb, and should become a model in this regard for future controversial work. http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v322.php If you first focus on the many ways that a controversial experiment can be faked, and then allow the viewer to weigh the evidence dispassionately, then it comes off a lot more convincingly than the 'cheerleader' kind of presentation that are issued daily by the hundreds of new online PR firms which is a phenomenon in itself. For $200 you can have your name in print with all the wild claims imaginable, sent to thousands of gullible other news sites who repackage and resend. Even top Universities are doing this. Nocera of MIT is a PR-hound-deluxe who is symptomatic of the kind of massively overly-hyped RD of modest importance - that gets out there as breakthroughs . so the top level Universities are not immune. They should put reins on these abuses. Any teenage geek these days with a PC can become a Public Relations entrepreneur - and from the looks of most of the crap coming through on 'google alerts' these days, many of these PR firms are run by gullible twenty-somethings.
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Nope. This is Op-ed, and word of mouth, until a Freedom of Information Act filing is honored. An online search, especially for the TEG work at UNH, funded by DoE - will turn up enough circumstantial information for you to reach your own conclusion. A few of those references may be in the vortex archive. We have been discussing Rossi for a long time before the demo - and for some of that time incorrectly assumed that Dr Andrea Rossi, as he was designated by LTI - was a woman. And that had nothing to do with the Julia Child effect nor the two fires which destroyed two labs. From: Jay Caplan Jones, ..the US taxpayer, as they (though several DoE contracts managed by LTI) - seem to have picked up most of Rossi's expenses from about 2000 to 2009 or thereabouts .. Could you offer a reference on the Rossi/DOE funding, would like to learn more. Thanks. Jay Caplan attachment: winmail.dat
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Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This is Op-ed, and word of mouth, until a Freedom of Information Act filing is honored. How do you know what this Freedom of Information Act filing will reveal? Perhaps it will exonerate Rossi. Where is this Op-Ed? I suggest you refrain from stating something so boldly, as if it were a proven fact, when all you have to go on is an Op-ed and word of mouth; i.e. rumors. If I were you, I would say rumor has it . . . or some people suspect that . . . the DoE has paid for this research. If the DoE did pay for it, it is the best thing they ever did. I would go further: dollar for dollar, it will probably turn out to be the best, wisest and most profitable investment Uncle Sam ever made in technology. And Uncle Sam paid for most modern technology, so that is saying a lot. - Jed
