Re: [Vo]:Mr. Krivit continues to advocate for the W-L camp
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > The Thieving Magpie ?? Is this a meta4 Lewis ? Lewis, Kivit and the whole production. Not to mention that it brings to mind a Clockwork Orange, a dystopian dream. I am now reading China Mieville's "The City & the City", which is probably influencing my derailed train of thoughtcrime. (Actually, I am reading two books at this time. The second is "The Giver" by Lois Lowry with a mysterious merger among the books and my reality.) :0 T
RE: [Vo]:Mr. Krivit continues to advocate for the W-L camp
The Thieving Magpie ?? Is this a meta4 Lewis ? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Reminds me of ROSSIni's "La Gazza Ladra". :) T <>
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Krivit continues to advocate for the W-L camp
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:33 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > The laundry will eventually sort itself out. Reminds me of ROSSIni's "La Gazza Ladra". :) T
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Krivit continues to advocate for the W-L camp
>From Alan: > McKubre's response at > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111210McKubreResponse.shtml ... McKubre states: > People sometimes question the value a "traditional" scientific > education but this case highlights one of its clear benefits. Poor > Steve simply does not know what he does not know. ... > Interpretation of data without access to the lab notebooks and > detailed knowledge of the procedures actually employed, is worse > than fruitless, as this case demonstrates. McKubre's commentary was extracted from the private CMNS list group. It's my understanding Mr. Krivit is not a CMNS member. Therefore, someone must be feeding CMNS info to him. Once again Krivt appears to have posted private information not meant for public consumption. However, based on past experience, I'm sure McKubre suspected that Mr. Krivit would somehow acquire the details of his "private" response. The fact that Mr. Krivit proceeded to quickly defend his M4 actions suggests to me that he is concerned about his perceived reputation. I suspect McKubre knows this as well. In Mr. Krivt's rebuttal, he begins with: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111221ToWhomItMayConcern.shtml > To whom it may concern: > > In 2010, I conducted an investigation of the EPRI-funded SRI International > experiment "M4," performed by Michael McKubre and staff in 1994, and > I published my findings. I also provided them to the federal intelligence > community. To "... the federal intelligence community!" Wow! Mr. Krivit really did that? ...as if to insinuate the seriousness of McKubre's alleged M4 transgressions. Be that as it may, I'm under the impression that McKubre, for the most part, really doesn't give a crap how Mr. Krivit has chosen to interpret his M4 work. The laundry will eventually sort itself out. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mr. Krivit continues to advocate for the W-L camp
McKubre's response at http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111210McKubreResponse.shtml : People sometimes question the value a "traditional" scientific education but this case highlights one of its clear benefits. Poor Steve simply does not know what he does not know. ... Interpretation of data without access to the lab notebooks and detailed knowledge of the procedures actually employed, is worse than fruitless, as this case demonstrates. (Of course, SK adds a disclaimer)
[Vo]:Mr. Krivit continues to advocate for the W-L camp
Widom - Larsen advocate, Steven Krivit, recently published three articles, two of which were either authored by Lewis Larsen, or contained references to Larsen's theory. The third article is an index compiled by Krivit pertaining to his on-going attempt to undermine the legitimacy of McKubre's "M4" work. See: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/01/31/index-for-investigation-of-mckubre s-m4-experiment-created/ http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/01/17/prescient-1994-insights-from-fleis chmann-pons-and-preparata-on-lenr-theory/ http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/01/31/index-for-investigation-of-mckubre s-m4-experiment-created/ I've made it a point to clearly state that, in my opinion, Mr. Krivit has established himself to be an ADVOCATE for the Widom Larsen camp. I bring this up because Mr. Krivit at one time personally told me that he didn't want to be perceived as an ADVOCATE. An ADVOCATE, however, promotes a particular theory or cause while simultaneously undermining opposing causes and theories. In my view, Mr. Krivit continues to show a propensity to give the Widom-Larsen camp free reign to say whatever they want to say at NET. Meanwhile, Mr. Krivit also shows a propensity to attack the credibility of those who may be perceived as competition, or simply beg to differ with the position of the W-L camp. This suggests to me that Mr. Krivit doesn't really understand what his actual intentions are. When will Mr. Krivit come out of the closet and clarify to his readers what kind of relationship he has established with the Widom-Larsen camp? I think Mr. Krivit's readership deserves to know his intentions. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
