Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

2012-09-14 Thread Jed Rothwell

I will ask David French what he thinks about this patent.

- Jed



Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

2012-09-14 Thread Robert Lynn
It is all about the way it is written, a patent examination based on LENR
application alone might or might have been rejected, but by including it in
a list alongside more mainstream applications, and concentrating on
material processing side they have found a way to get it through without as
much difficulty, that is a relatively way to skin the cat, and I believe
Celani is doing something similar.

The patent examination process is rather arbitrary in most cases (for
example vast numbers of ridiculously obvious phone and software patents in
last 20 years).

On 12 September 2012 21:24, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
>
>  Isn't this sort of big deal? Not so much because of what the patent
>> covers, but because the USPTO actually granted it? Claim 11, for example,
>> specifically mentions charged particles and x-rays.
>>
>
> Yes, it is a big deal. I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps the P.O.
> has changed its policy. Maybe not . . . In the past, a few patents such
> Patterson's got through on a technicality. I do not know what happened here.
>
> - Jed
>
>


Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

2012-09-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
This should give Rossi much more confidence to show his invention... if it
was not for his totally confusing writing.

2012/9/12 Jed Rothwell 

> Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
>
>  Isn't this sort of big deal? Not so much because of what the patent
>> covers, but because the USPTO actually granted it? Claim 11, for example,
>> specifically mentions charged particles and x-rays.
>>
>
> Yes, it is a big deal. I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps the P.O.
> has changed its policy. Maybe not . . . In the past, a few patents such
> Patterson's got through on a technicality. I do not know what happened here.
>
> - Jed
>
>


-- 
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Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

2012-09-12 Thread Jed Rothwell

Jeff Berkowitz wrote:

Isn't this sort of big deal? Not so much because of what the patent 
covers, but because the USPTO actually granted it? Claim 11, for 
example, specifically mentions charged particles and x-rays.


Yes, it is a big deal. I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps the P.O. 
has changed its policy. Maybe not . . . In the past, a few patents such 
Patterson's got through on a technicality. I do not know what happened here.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:New Miley Patent

2012-09-12 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
http://www.google.com/patents?id=WhIgAgAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=%22Low+Energy+Nuclear+Reaction%22&source=bl&ots=Xuf1yRH2vB&sig=142QFcoB_2WmhjeCiLVn9AuUGlU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qEROUKH4JsjSrQHKmIGoBw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ&goback=.gde_4132340_member_161859049#v=onepage&q&f=false


Isn't this sort of big deal? Not so much because of what the patent covers,
but because the USPTO actually granted it? Claim 11, for example,
specifically mentions charged particles and x-rays.

Or perhaps the fact that the claims aren't limited to CF/LENR (e.g. also
superconductivity, claim 12) was significant?

Jeff

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:50 AM,  wrote:

> Courtesy of "LENR Forum" - Follow links at -
>
> http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=569&p=2283
>
> U.S. Patent No. US 8,227,020  July 24, 2012
>
> ABSTRACT:
>
> Techniques to form dislocation cores along an interface of a multilayer
> thin
> film structure are described.  The loading and/or deloading of isotopes of
> hydrogen are also described in association with core formation.  The
> described techniques can be applied to superconductive structure formation,
> x-ray and charged particle generation, nuclear reaction processes, and/or
> inertial confinement targets.
>
>
>


[Vo]:New Miley Patent

2012-09-12 Thread pagnucco
Courtesy of "LENR Forum" - Follow links at -

http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?t=569&p=2283

U.S. Patent No. US 8,227,020  July 24, 2012

ABSTRACT:

Techniques to form dislocation cores along an interface of a multilayer thin
film structure are described.  The loading and/or deloading of isotopes of
hydrogen are also described in association with core formation.  The
described techniques can be applied to superconductive structure formation,
x-ray and charged particle generation, nuclear reaction processes, and/or
inertial confinement targets.