Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity

2012-09-14 Thread Ron Kita
I think QuantumRabbit is a major researcher into changing carbon into iron.
Ron Kita

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:38 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 What would happen if you took a bundle of moderate length carbon nanotubes
 that are suspected of being capable of superconducting and place these
 within a strong magnetic field.  The magnetic field would penetrate
 throughout most of the forest of CNTs.  Now, give the structure a few
 whacks (hits) that cause some of the tubes to contact each other at both
 ends where before they were open circuited.

  If some of the contacting tubes now form closed superconducting paths,
 they will trap the field within and become magnetic once the external field
 is removed.  Perhaps this is a way to prove that they do indeed become
 superconductors at room temperature.

  I seem to recall someone using carbon black in an experiment that had
 them convinced that iron was formed because of the residual magnetic
 effects and wonder if something of the nature I mentioned is at work.  This
 type of experiment should be tried especially if it demonstrates room
 temperature superconductivity of CNTs.

  Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:55 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp
 superconductivity

  This part of the paper held interest for me.
 *“It may be that the water treatment dopes parts of the grain surfaces
 with hydrogen and this element may play an important role as has been also
 observed for the magnetic order found in graphite. To check this we have
 exposed the virgin graphite powder to hydrogen plasma for 75 minutes at
 room temperature. The prepared powder shows the same characteristics as the
 water treated one indicating that hydrogen may play a role in this
 phenomenon.”*
 I speculation on what is happening here as follows:
 The hydrogen is ionized into protons and these protons for cooper pairs.
 These pairs then form a condensate on the surface of the graphite grains
 that support superconducting current flow and associated magnetic behavior.
 A superconductive cable or rope might be formed using a bundling of carbon
 nanotubes inside a copper or aluminum tube that has been filled with
 hydrogen under pressure.

 Protons would fill the inside of the SWNT as a superconducting condensate.

 Checking this tube for room temperature superconductivity would be an
 interesting experiment to run.


 Cheers:Axil


  On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Excellent find Lou.

 This gives me some encouragement that I am proceeding in the right
 direction with my Carbon Nanohorn research.

 We know that carbon nanotubes, which are essentially graphene sheets,
 exhibit superconductive behavior at low temps.  Further we know that these
 same carbon nanotubes exhibit ballistic conduction at higher temps even
 above room temps.  Further, we know from research to use CNTs in hydrogen
 storage, that hydrogen ions/gas at certain conditions would dissociate and
 stick to carbon nanotube walls and hydrogenate and functionalize these
 CNTs. Further, we know that CNTs, especially SWNTs, exhibit long electron
 coherence lengths.  Further, we also know that electrons will accumulate in
 CNT tips and promtoe field emissions.  Further, we also know that electrons
 flowing on a CNT will charge screen ions that are within its charge
 screening radius (CNT diameter.)  Further, we also know that CNTs will
 carry huge amounts of currents, more than what can be explained by simple
 electron flow theory - in metals.

 And finally, we know that superconductivity MAY be correlated to
 anomalous heat release.

 Therefore, I feel that CNTs are really the rgiht materials to serve as
 NAEs.

 One thing I found interesting was that the phenomena disappeared when
 they compressed the graphene powder.  This indicates to me that this may
 have something to do with the destruction of the long filamentous graphene
 nanowhiskers that are associated with the phenomena.  These filamentous
 whiskers appear to be critical to superconductive behaviour.  This, of
 course, is what I think may be happening in my carbon nanotube theory.  The
 phenomena these physicists found may be an LENR phenomena.


 Oh, I wished I can go back there to the states right now so that I can
 build my proof of concept reactor.  But, in the mean time, finds like these
 are excellent.  Thanks.


 Jojo





 - Original Message - From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:46 AM
 Subject: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp
 superconductivity




 Tom Andersen just sent me this new press release on hi-temp 'fractal'
 superconductivity -

 Room Temperature Superconductivity Found in Graphite Grains

 Water-soaked grains of carbon superconduct at room temperature,
 claim a team of physicists

Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity

2012-09-13 Thread Jojo Jaro

Excellent find Lou.

This gives me some encouragement that I am proceeding in the right direction 
with my Carbon Nanohorn research.


We know that carbon nanotubes, which are essentially graphene sheets, 
exhibit superconductive behavior at low temps.  Further we know that these 
same carbon nanotubes exhibit ballistic conduction at higher temps even 
above room temps.  Further, we know from research to use CNTs in hydrogen 
storage, that hydrogen ions/gas at certain conditions would dissociate and 
stick to carbon nanotube walls and hydrogenate and functionalize these CNTs. 
Further, we know that CNTs, especially SWNTs, exhibit long electron 
coherence lengths.  Further, we also know that electrons will accumulate in 
CNT tips and promtoe field emissions.  Further, we also know that electrons 
flowing on a CNT will charge screen ions that are within its charge 
screening radius (CNT diameter.)  Further, we also know that CNTs will carry 
huge amounts of currents, more than what can be explained by simple electron 
flow theory - in metals.


And finally, we know that superconductivity MAY be correlated to anomalous 
heat release.


Therefore, I feel that CNTs are really the rgiht materials to serve as NAEs.

One thing I found interesting was that the phenomena disappeared when they 
compressed the graphene powder.  This indicates to me that this may have 
something to do with the destruction of the long filamentous graphene 
nanowhiskers that are associated with the phenomena.  These filamentous 
whiskers appear to be critical to superconductive behaviour.  This, of 
course, is what I think may be happening in my carbon nanotube theory.  The 
phenomena these physicists found may be an LENR phenomena.



Oh, I wished I can go back there to the states right now so that I can build 
my proof of concept reactor.  But, in the mean time, finds like these are 
excellent.  Thanks.



Jojo





- Original Message - 
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:46 AM
Subject: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp 
superconductivity





Tom Andersen just sent me this new press release on hi-temp 'fractal'
superconductivity -

Room Temperature Superconductivity Found in Graphite Grains

Water-soaked grains of carbon superconduct at room temperature,
claim a team of physicists from Germany

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in/?ref=rss

Their full preprint is available at -

Can doping graphite trigger room temperature superconductivity? Evidence
for granular high-temperature superconductivity in water-treated graphite
powder
http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.1938


For those interested in hi-temp super-/ballistic-conductivity,
in fractal and colloidal conductors, here are some related papers
by the same group, and two (possibly) related patents:


Length dependence of the resistance in graphite: Influence of ballistic
transport
http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.3004

Ballistic transport at room temperature in micrometer size multigraphene
http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.1100

Ferromagnetic- and superconducting-like behavior of the electrical
resistance of inhomogeneous graphite flake
http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3303



US Patent Application 20080085834
- Superconductive circuits with efficient method

The present invention relates to superconductors, superconductive
circuits, and electrical superconductive processes. More specifically,
this invention relates to high-temperature superconductors and electrical
superconductive processes occurring near normal room or ambient
temperatures [...]
Researchers have recently discovered that the addition of certain
nanoparticles less than 100 nanometers in size, when added to water, oil,
or glycol mixtures, results in a nanofluid (a colloid with nanoparticles)
that exhibits a substantial rise in thermal conductivity. In U.S. Pat.
No. 6,221,275 (Choi, et al., 2001), a method is disclosed for producing
nanocrystalline particles of such substances as copper, copper oxide,
or aluminum oxide. The nanocrystalline particles are then dispersed
in fluids such as [...]

http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20080085834/description.html

United States Patent Application 20110233061 (Brian Ahern)
- AMPLIFICATION OF ENERGETIC REACTIONS

Methods and apparatus for energy production through the amplification of
energetic reactions. A method includes amplifying an energy release from
a dispersion of nanoparticles containing a concentration of
hydrogen/deuterium nuclei, the nanoparticles suspended in a dielectric
medium in a presence of hydrogen/deuterium gas, wherein an energy input
is provided by high voltage pulses between two electrodes embedded
in the dispersion of nanoparticles. [...]
Energetic reactions described fully herein are amplified

Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity

2012-09-13 Thread Axil Axil
This part of the paper held interest for me.

*“It may be that the water treatment dopes parts of the grain surfaces with
hydrogen and this element may play an important role as has been also
observed for the magnetic order found in graphite. To check this we have
exposed the virgin graphite powder to hydrogen plasma for 75 minutes at
room temperature. The prepared powder shows the same characteristics as the
water treated one indicating that hydrogen may play a role in this
phenomenon.”*

I speculation on what is happening here as follows:

The hydrogen is ionized into protons and these protons for cooper pairs.
These pairs then form a condensate on the surface of the graphite grains
that support superconducting current flow and associated magnetic behavior.
A superconductive cable or rope might be formed using a bundling of carbon
nanotubes inside a copper or aluminum tube that has been filled with
hydrogen under pressure.

Protons would fill the inside of the SWNT as a superconducting condensate.

Checking this tube for room temperature superconductivity would be an
interesting experiment to run.


Cheers:Axil


On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Excellent find Lou.

 This gives me some encouragement that I am proceeding in the right
 direction with my Carbon Nanohorn research.

 We know that carbon nanotubes, which are essentially graphene sheets,
 exhibit superconductive behavior at low temps.  Further we know that these
 same carbon nanotubes exhibit ballistic conduction at higher temps even
 above room temps.  Further, we know from research to use CNTs in hydrogen
 storage, that hydrogen ions/gas at certain conditions would dissociate and
 stick to carbon nanotube walls and hydrogenate and functionalize these
 CNTs. Further, we know that CNTs, especially SWNTs, exhibit long electron
 coherence lengths.  Further, we also know that electrons will accumulate in
 CNT tips and promtoe field emissions.  Further, we also know that electrons
 flowing on a CNT will charge screen ions that are within its charge
 screening radius (CNT diameter.)  Further, we also know that CNTs will
 carry huge amounts of currents, more than what can be explained by simple
 electron flow theory - in metals.

 And finally, we know that superconductivity MAY be correlated to anomalous
 heat release.

 Therefore, I feel that CNTs are really the rgiht materials to serve as
 NAEs.

 One thing I found interesting was that the phenomena disappeared when they
 compressed the graphene powder.  This indicates to me that this may have
 something to do with the destruction of the long filamentous graphene
 nanowhiskers that are associated with the phenomena.  These filamentous
 whiskers appear to be critical to superconductive behaviour.  This, of
 course, is what I think may be happening in my carbon nanotube theory.  The
 phenomena these physicists found may be an LENR phenomena.


 Oh, I wished I can go back there to the states right now so that I can
 build my proof of concept reactor.  But, in the mean time, finds like these
 are excellent.  Thanks.


 Jojo





 - Original Message - From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:46 AM
 Subject: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp
 superconductivity




 Tom Andersen just sent me this new press release on hi-temp 'fractal'
 superconductivity -

 Room Temperature Superconductivity Found in Graphite Grains

 Water-soaked grains of carbon superconduct at room temperature,
 claim a team of physicists from Germany

 http://www.technologyreview.**com/view/429203/room-**
 temperature-superconductivity-**found-in/?ref=rsshttp://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in/?ref=rss

 Their full preprint is available at -

 Can doping graphite trigger room temperature superconductivity? Evidence
 for granular high-temperature superconductivity in water-treated graphite
 powder
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.1938


 For those interested in hi-temp super-/ballistic-conductivity,
 in fractal and colloidal conductors, here are some related papers
 by the same group, and two (possibly) related patents:


 Length dependence of the resistance in graphite: Influence of ballistic
 transport
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.3004

 Ballistic transport at room temperature in micrometer size multigraphene
 http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.1100

 Ferromagnetic- and superconducting-like behavior of the electrical
 resistance of inhomogeneous graphite flake
 http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3303


 ==**==**
 
 US Patent Application 20080085834
 - Superconductive circuits with efficient method

 The present invention relates to superconductors, superconductive
 circuits, and electrical superconductive processes. More specifically,
 this invention relates to high-temperature superconductors and electrical
 superconductive

Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity

2012-09-13 Thread David Roberson
What would happen if you took a bundle of moderate length carbon nanotubes that 
are suspected of being capable of superconducting and place these within a 
strong magnetic field.  The magnetic field would penetrate throughout most of 
the forest of CNTs.  Now, give the structure a few whacks (hits) that cause 
some of the tubes to contact each other at both ends where before they were 
open circuited.


If some of the contacting tubes now form closed superconducting paths, they 
will trap the field within and become magnetic once the external field is 
removed.  Perhaps this is a way to prove that they do indeed become 
superconductors at room temperature.


I seem to recall someone using carbon black in an experiment that had them 
convinced that iron was formed because of the residual magnetic effects and 
wonder if something of the nature I mentioned is at work.  This type of 
experiment should be tried especially if it demonstrates room temperature 
superconductivity of CNTs.


Dave



-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp 
superconductivity


This part of the paper held interest for me.
“It may be that the water treatment dopes parts of the grain surfaces with 
hydrogen and this element may play an important role as has been also observed 
for the magnetic order found in graphite. To check this we have exposed the 
virgin graphite powder to hydrogen plasma for 75 minutes at room temperature. 
The prepared powder shows the same characteristics as the water treated one 
indicating that hydrogen may play a role in this phenomenon.”
I speculation on what is happening here as follows:
The hydrogen is ionized into protons and these protons for cooper pairs. These 
pairs then form a condensate on the surface of the graphite grains that support 
superconducting current flow and associated magnetic behavior.
A superconductive cable or rope might be formed using a bundling of carbon 
nanotubes inside a copper or aluminum tube that has been filled with hydrogen 
under pressure.

Protons would fill the inside of the SWNT as a superconducting condensate.
 
Checking this tube for room temperature superconductivity would be an 
interesting experiment to run.
 
 
Cheers:Axil



On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

Excellent find Lou.

This gives me some encouragement that I am proceeding in the right direction 
with my Carbon Nanohorn research.

We know that carbon nanotubes, which are essentially graphene sheets, exhibit 
superconductive behavior at low temps.  Further we know that these same carbon 
nanotubes exhibit ballistic conduction at higher temps even above room temps.  
Further, we know from research to use CNTs in hydrogen storage, that hydrogen 
ions/gas at certain conditions would dissociate and stick to carbon nanotube 
walls and hydrogenate and functionalize these CNTs. Further, we know that CNTs, 
especially SWNTs, exhibit long electron coherence lengths.  Further, we also 
know that electrons will accumulate in CNT tips and promtoe field emissions.  
Further, we also know that electrons flowing on a CNT will charge screen ions 
that are within its charge screening radius (CNT diameter.)  Further, we also 
know that CNTs will carry huge amounts of currents, more than what can be 
explained by simple electron flow theory - in metals.

And finally, we know that superconductivity MAY be correlated to anomalous heat 
release.

Therefore, I feel that CNTs are really the rgiht materials to serve as NAEs.

One thing I found interesting was that the phenomena disappeared when they 
compressed the graphene powder.  This indicates to me that this may have 
something to do with the destruction of the long filamentous graphene 
nanowhiskers that are associated with the phenomena.  These filamentous 
whiskers appear to be critical to superconductive behaviour.  This, of course, 
is what I think may be happening in my carbon nanotube theory.  The phenomena 
these physicists found may be an LENR phenomena.


Oh, I wished I can go back there to the states right now so that I can build my 
proof of concept reactor.  But, in the mean time, finds like these are 
excellent.  Thanks.


Jojo





- Original Message - From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:46 AM
Subject: [Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity





Tom Andersen just sent me this new press release on hi-temp 'fractal'
superconductivity -

Room Temperature Superconductivity Found in Graphite Grains

Water-soaked grains of carbon superconduct at room temperature,
claim a team of physicists from Germany

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in/?ref=rss

Their full preprint is available at -

Can doping graphite trigger room temperature

[Vo]:New press release on fractal graphite hi-temp superconductivity

2012-09-12 Thread pagnucco

Tom Andersen just sent me this new press release on hi-temp 'fractal'
superconductivity -

Room Temperature Superconductivity Found in Graphite Grains

Water-soaked grains of carbon superconduct at room temperature,
claim a team of physicists from Germany

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in/?ref=rss

Their full preprint is available at -

Can doping graphite trigger room temperature superconductivity? Evidence
for granular high-temperature superconductivity in water-treated graphite
powder
http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.1938


For those interested in hi-temp super-/ballistic-conductivity,
in fractal and colloidal conductors, here are some related papers
by the same group, and two (possibly) related patents:


Length dependence of the resistance in graphite: Influence of ballistic
transport
http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.3004

Ballistic transport at room temperature in micrometer size multigraphene
http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.1100

Ferromagnetic- and superconducting-like behavior of the electrical
resistance of inhomogeneous graphite flake
http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3303



US Patent Application 20080085834
- Superconductive circuits with efficient method

The present invention relates to superconductors, superconductive
circuits, and electrical superconductive processes. More specifically,
this invention relates to high-temperature superconductors and electrical
superconductive processes occurring near normal room or ambient
temperatures [...]
Researchers have recently discovered that the addition of certain
nanoparticles less than 100 nanometers in size, when added to water, oil,
or glycol mixtures, results in a nanofluid (a colloid with nanoparticles)
that exhibits a substantial rise in thermal conductivity. In U.S. Pat.
No. 6,221,275 (Choi, et al., 2001), a method is disclosed for producing
nanocrystalline particles of such substances as copper, copper oxide,
or aluminum oxide. The nanocrystalline particles are then dispersed
in fluids such as [...]

http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20080085834/description.html

United States Patent Application 20110233061 (Brian Ahern)
- AMPLIFICATION OF ENERGETIC REACTIONS

Methods and apparatus for energy production through the amplification of
energetic reactions. A method includes amplifying an energy release from
a dispersion of nanoparticles containing a concentration of
hydrogen/deuterium nuclei, the nanoparticles suspended in a dielectric
medium in a presence of hydrogen/deuterium gas, wherein an energy input
is provided by high voltage pulses between two electrodes embedded
in the dispersion of nanoparticles. [...]
Energetic reactions described fully herein are amplified by an inverse
skin effect. These very small discharge pathways are so narrow that the
magnetic fields close to them are amplified to magnitudes unachievable
by other methods.

Distributing nanoparticles in a dielectric (ceramic) matrix between two
high voltage electrodes is a method according to the principles of the
present invention for amplifying an energy output from the
hydrated/deuterated metal nanoparticles in the dielectric matrix. High
voltage pulses cause arc formations. The arc formations focus energy and
the arc formations are channeled from one macroscopic grain to another
macroscopic grain. Once a discharge is interior to a macroscopic grain
the pulse is further focused into nanoparticles along the lowest
impedance pathway. The arcs interior to the grains are where the
energetic reactions are maximized.

The nanoparticles provide a constellation of short circuiting elements
for each current pulse. Each succeeding pulse finds a different pathway
that minimizes the impedance between two electrodes. An overpressure of
hydrogen is needed to prevent discharges from sliding over a surface of
the macroscopic grains rather than through the grains and thereby
through the hydrated nanoparticles. Low pressure hydrogen gas favors
surface discharging.

Liquid dielectrics produce similar energy focusing capabilities as the
ceramic matrices. Liquid systems provide a direct method for producing
nanoparticles in situ. [...]

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0233061.html


-- Lou Pagnucco