Re: [Vo]:OT: Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022
And the breakable shellac 78 RPM? Edison's wax cylinder? Regarding analog vs digital music, PCM sampled at 10% over the Nuquist rate can exactly reproduce the original signal. But the analog reproduction can add a spacial quality. I actually lost a good friend over an argument on CDs. Remember when they had a AAD, ADD or DDD rating. Ken Franklin quit speaking to me because I took the CD side. Of course, he had thousands invested in Snell speakers, Macintosh tube amps and two walls of vinyl. On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 5:25 PM H L V wrote: > yes you are. :-) > I didn't mention 8 tracks because they disappeared about 1980 when vinyl > was still the most popular format. > harry > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:44 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > >> You forgot 8 tracks! Or am I dating myself? >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 11:07 AM H L V wrote: >> >>> Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XBL9KlVoYE >>> >>> Today the vast majority of music sales comes from the streaming format. >>> However even though vinyl sales almost disappeared in the early 2000s >>> they grew again and now exceed CD sales. If this video is accurate then >>> no music cassettes are sold today whereas at one time they dwarfed vinyl >>> sales. >>> >>> This says something about the nature of obsolescence. >>> A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" >>> inferior or less affordable. >>> >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> >>>
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I think people enjoy holding and reading the album cover as well as caring for the record. Vinyl may stick around like printed books. harry On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:21 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > H L V wrote: > > If this video is accurate then no music cassettes are sold today whereas >> at one time they dwarfed vinyl sales. >> >> This says something about the nature of obsolescence. >> A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" >> inferior or less affordable. >> > > That is true. The book "The Innovator's Dilemma" describes some situations > in which the new technology wins out even though it is inferior in some > ways, or more expensive. For example, around 1982, 5 MB personal computer > hard disks cost more per megabyte than minicomputer disks. They had less > storage, they were slower and probably less reliable. They sold well > because they happened to fit that market segment. It is complicated. See p. > 71 and 72 for a look at the book: > > https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf > > Vinyl sales are up partly as a fad, or a fashion statement. Music > cassettes were a lousy technology. Fidelity was poor and they soon broke. > >
Re: [Vo]:OT: Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022
yes you are. :-) I didn't mention 8 tracks because they disappeared about 1980 when vinyl was still the most popular format. harry On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 12:44 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > You forgot 8 tracks! Or am I dating myself? > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 11:07 AM H L V wrote: > >> Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XBL9KlVoYE >> >> Today the vast majority of music sales comes from the streaming format. >> However even though vinyl sales almost disappeared in the early 2000s >> they grew again and now exceed CD sales. If this video is accurate then >> no music cassettes are sold today whereas at one time they dwarfed vinyl >> sales. >> >> This says something about the nature of obsolescence. >> A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" >> inferior or less affordable. >> >> >> Harry >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:OT: Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022
Terry Blanton wrote: Audiophiles have often said the vinyl source is warmer. > So I've heard. I would like to set up a test with a turntable and a CD player attached to the same speakers, to see if these people can hear the difference. I'll bet they cannot. I know little about audio equipment, but I know they set the CD sampling rate much higher than the human ear can hear. Maybe there is a blurring effect? I wouldn't know. It reminds me of when "New Coke" came out. People protested, and made a stink. It turned out most of them could not tell the difference in blind taste tests.
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Audiophiles have often said the vinyl source is warmer. Technically, this is likely due to the phase smearing of differential encoding of music by changes in groove heights and peak separation. On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 1:21 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > H L V wrote: > > If this video is accurate then no music cassettes are sold today whereas >> at one time they dwarfed vinyl sales. >> >> This says something about the nature of obsolescence. >> A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" >> inferior or less affordable. >> > > That is true. The book "The Innovator's Dilemma" describes some situations > in which the new technology wins out even though it is inferior in some > ways, or more expensive. For example, around 1982, 5 MB personal computer > hard disks cost more per megabyte than minicomputer disks. They had less > storage, they were slower and probably less reliable. They sold well > because they happened to fit that market segment. It is complicated. See p. > 71 and 72 for a look at the book: > > https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf > > Vinyl sales are up partly as a fad, or a fashion statement. Music > cassettes were a lousy technology. Fidelity was poor and they soon broke. > >
Re: [Vo]:OT: Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022
H L V wrote: If this video is accurate then no music cassettes are sold today whereas > at one time they dwarfed vinyl sales. > > This says something about the nature of obsolescence. > A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" > inferior or less affordable. > That is true. The book "The Innovator's Dilemma" describes some situations in which the new technology wins out even though it is inferior in some ways, or more expensive. For example, around 1982, 5 MB personal computer hard disks cost more per megabyte than minicomputer disks. They had less storage, they were slower and probably less reliable. They sold well because they happened to fit that market segment. It is complicated. See p. 71 and 72 for a look at the book: https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf Vinyl sales are up partly as a fad, or a fashion statement. Music cassettes were a lousy technology. Fidelity was poor and they soon broke.
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You forgot 8 tracks! Or am I dating myself? On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 11:07 AM H L V wrote: > Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XBL9KlVoYE > > Today the vast majority of music sales comes from the streaming format. > However even though vinyl sales almost disappeared in the early 2000s > they grew again and now exceed CD sales. If this video is accurate then no > music cassettes are sold today whereas at one time they dwarfed vinyl > sales. > > This says something about the nature of obsolescence. > A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" > inferior or less affordable. > > > Harry > > >
[Vo]:OT: Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022
Most Popular Music Formats 1972 - 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XBL9KlVoYE Today the vast majority of music sales comes from the streaming format. However even though vinyl sales almost disappeared in the early 2000s they grew again and now exceed CD sales. If this video is accurate then no music cassettes are sold today whereas at one time they dwarfed vinyl sales. This says something about the nature of obsolescence. A technology doesn't become obsolete simply because it is "obviously" inferior or less affordable. Harry
