Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
Here is my official well-learned opinion about the means or mode of Technology that we (modern-day mankind) are using to interpret or decipher the world around us, and especially when it comes to pictures or images so-called videos It's really only insufficient, inadequate, confusing, invalid, convoluted, misleading, even offensive, enraging, foul, vile, demeaning, disgusting, despicable, etc. etc. Now, all you have to do to get the general idea of what impact a video can have of someone, and, not to (precisely) change the subject, but... The recent video made of the stoned-age people that became enraged when they see or hear of themselves in the act of their animal-like behavior. Maybe it's just coincidental that the stoned-age people simply enjoy throwing stones, clubing/burning people, and/or naturally tend to destroy any everything produced by the modern world. It's really just an issue of a somewhat earlier version of mankind, which hasn't yet crossed-over from the primative tendencies or behavior associated with there-of, to the more evolved Modern Humans which we obviously are. From my viewpoint, these stoned-age people are the real infidels because they are obviously deathly afraid of technology and/or a future that doesn't involve them bending down all day kissing the ground (good by),,, which of course, is where they all, more or less, *know* they're going to end up. Now, all of us more evolved modern civilized humans *know* deep down that When If it comes down to it that it's US or Them (the animals),,, and so, of course, there isn't any real choice At some point, if They succeed in their on-going effort to ses the total compete demise of US, then we'll need asap to we pull ourselves back or out completely, or as much as possible, and totally obliterate their world. Then, and only then, will THEY *know,* (w/o question) once and for all, that our God is all truly powerfull and all knowing, and/or has no equal. THEIR so-called religion, prophets, and/or god will then be All Ah or All Uh, Up In The Air. In a message dated 9/6/12 6:17:27 PM EST, hohlr...@gmail.com writes: However, I have to offer this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY and one of not so good quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenv=r0OIxzFJiKYNR=1 and, while I really want to believe, . . . Maybe Loren Heyer will comment? /HTML
Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
From Lorenheyer: ... Then, and only then, will THEY *know,* (w/o question) once and for all, that our God is all truly powerfull and all knowing, and/or has no equal. THEIR so-called religion, prophets, and/or god will then be All Ah or All Uh, Up In The Air. ... IMO, discussions pertaining to prove which god is the only one and true god are doomed. Under the circumstances it is better to be an atheist.Perhaps that's what many stalwart fundamentalists end up doing in a future life - as a practical way of balancing their books. ;-) Strange as it might sound for me to say this but I would recommend we tone down further discussion pertaining to the recent unfortunate You-Tube infidel matter. We are witnessing ancient Tribal Law clashing with the more modern laws of Civilization. There is bound to be some conflict. The transition is painful for everyone, on both sides of the fence. We do not need to fan the flames anymore than they already have been fanned. It is not wise to blithly hand over to a bunch of hot-heads additional excuses than the ones they have already managed to manufacture out of seeds of ignorance as recently depicted on You Tube. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
--- On Fri, 9/7/12, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I'm puzzled by the fact that many Aliens are strikingly humanoid in appearance - possessing two legs, arms, eyes, a nose and mouth, placed in pretty much the same locations as we possess. I don't think such a structural layout is a coincidence. Neither do I. But Occham's Razor suggests a far simpler explanation than aliens crossing thousands of light years to come to this obscure planet and use humans in genetic experiments or whatever the latest fad explanation is. The simplest explanation is that most flying saucer landings are secret projects and when the guys inside see a possibility that there are going to be folks from the general public nearby, they simply don an alien head costume. This also accounts for their heads being bigger in proportion to their bodies.
RE: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
Terry sez: [Regarding the latest UFO jellyfish images.] ... However, I have to offer this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY Striking images of ISS. I didn't realize one could get such clear images from something as simple as a 5 inch refracting telescope. That's astounding. and one of not so good quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenv=r0OIxzFJiKYNR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenv=r0OIxzFJiKYNR=1 and, while I really want to believe, . . . Maybe Loren Heyer will comment? Quoting from the first You Tube link: In short: Get a telescope that costs more than 50 dollars. Yep! It wasn't clear to me whether the fuzzy images were videos of stationary objects or whether the objects were in near orbit around our planet. I suspect knowing just that little bit of info alone would probably tell us the high likelihood of whether these particular ufos were local or foreign. ... your tax dollars at work! ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
If I've learned one thing over the years from all my observations of looking up in the sky with the unaided eye, not to mention what I am absolutely convinced and/or confident are authentic first-hand eyewitness up-close encounters that depict actual landed craft that leave tell-tale signs, effects, and/or physical evidence behind, plus the occupants or crew that have been described as small humanoid (highly evolved and/or developed in my opinion) beings w/ small thin bodies (in diver type suits) w/ enlarged heads w/ large obsidian or almond shaped eyes (something obvious related to tremendous light gathering abilities, in my opinion) and barely discernable nose, ears, mouth, Not to mention w/o a doubt, no genitalia, organs, blood, flesh, nerves natural senses (have you lost yours yet?... well, you won't need to, because it's all not only archaic and completely unnecessary outdone, but obsolete), etc, etc.. Now, while I am well aware of many but certainly not all of the various incidents over the years of sightings encounters of us well-grounded in-the-flesh naturally limited and/or biologically dependent restricted humans with them, I also realize that every copycat story hoax will naturally follow, and/or a more reasonable practical down to earth (un) scientific explanation. (Money or Job Security typically forces most of us to say or do anything... it''s completely understandable because it is the current means by which enables us to prosper progress and/or govern ourselves. Now, one thing I'll say with 100 % certainty is that while this whole complete other issue has been thoroughly absolutely completely diluted, one clear *FACT* remains, and that is that what we (human beings) tend only to believe in, in regard to a more enduring place in heaven in some afterlife, with God or the Lord, or Supreme Being, or whathaveyou,,, the *Reality* of the situation or nature of the beast will demand that as we evolve grow over 10's of thousands millions of years, develope vastly improved ways of obtaining efficiency in energy production materials w/ second to none properties, along with the one only process that will enable this civilization to travel the stars w/o trouble or fail. Unfortunately, over the course of such a vast amount of time (and space) needed to develope this whole complete other mode of technological being, and the enormity or immensity or capacity and/or level of sophistication that information is processed about the world we live in, our current human mode of existence will long since have become so outdated that yuo certainly wouldn't even hope to recognize it Out with the Old... In with the New. Our earthly individual human identities that we now live experience differently will very slowly come to pass, because, bio-reproduction and/or the natural environment will at some point in the future be competely abandoned or outdone. IOW's, immortality and/or a one being based ability will be developed/created in the Laboratory, whereas the world outside will then be the world within. Now, no doubt while it's a long story, that has already comepletely played out out there in countless other star systems over the billions of years, it's important to keep in mind that we humankind possess the cognitive ability to comprehend this other world which we generally know little to nothing about. So anyway, right now up in the Space above us is a highly coordinated attuned effort the likes of which would not only would but is completely baffling ourkind down here on good old earth, BUT, it should be at least comforting, if not rewarding, and/or even beyond exciting to *Know* that a whole complete *other* immaculate exquisite mode of existence/being has been thoroughly accomplished In The Absolute, Among The Stars, In Space, w/o trouble or fail, and very possibly Forever There After Anything else, would be uncivilized... not worth a hill of beings, or how'bout, the paper it's printed on. Just having a little fun, before I perish from the earth OR if you wish,
RE: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
A nice wax Terry, I'm puzzled by the fact that many Aliens are strikingly humanoid in appearance - possessing two legs, arms, eyes, a nose and mouth, placed in pretty much the same locations as we possess. I don't think such a structural layout is a coincidence. My personal speculation is that we may be genetically related to many so-called ETs. How we might be related is, of course, the 64 dollar question. Many of these humanoids, in my view, look like future versions of humans, give or take a million years or so. This suggests to me the possibility that time-travel, along with millions of probable/parallel realities may be part of the entire paradigm. I also personally think a likely advancement we get to look forward to is to eventually develop a hive mind. Individual bodies, like you and me will become more specialized in order to perform unique tasks for the well-being of the collective. Contrary to what many fear might happen, I suspect we will continue to maintain our individuality while simultaneously maintaining an intimate connection with the collective. IOW, we will eventually learn to play the piano with both hands. Speculating on intelligent/alien hive mind activity is, of course, a favorite science fiction topic. Writers like Arthur C. Clark, David Brin, Joe Haldeman, and Orson Scott Card to name a few have all written fascinating speculative fiction on what it would be like to contact hive minded creatures. Star Trek's, Borg, is just a nasty permutation based on something we aren't yet comfortable with, and therefore fear. IOW, we fear the nature of the hive mind as being something akin to blundering into our grandparent's bedroom one day and accidently seeing grandma naked... or perhaps everyone naked for that matter! I suspect a more likely scenario would be that making contact with hive minded ET intelligences will end up mostly as a benign experience - at least from our personal individuated POVs. I suspect our own Hive Mind is still pretty much in an unconscious state. That's a more charitable way of saying it's still quite dim-witted. It might take us another 10 - 50 thousand years before our collective thoughts finally manage to get upgraded to ET standards. Until then, I suspect most hive intelligences out in the wilds of the cosmos would prefer to keep the dim-witted juveniles safely secured in the game preserve where they can be better monitored - aka CE3/4K. Of course, we may disobey the hive's suggestions and attempt to break out of our little crib before we have been potty trained. What then? Are we too old to get spanked? * * * * * BTW, here's a revised reprint of a fictional character of mine, Vince Dingalint, and his unique perspective on the Infamous Roswell story. Some Vorts may still remember Vince and his unfortunate predicament - which is similar to the fate of Billy Pilgrim. The following link is another test of me revising the look and feel of my still-under-construction web site. Enjoy: http://personalpen.orionworks.com/dingalint-what-happened-at-roswell.htm Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
Oops! I found a big grammatical error in the second paragraph of Dingalint's Roswell story. It's been fixed. http://personalpen.orionworks.com/dingalint-what-happened-at-roswell.htm I'm decompressing from a long work-vacation down in Chicago attending the World Science Fiction convention. I still feel very scattered. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:47 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope A nice wax Terry, I'm puzzled by the fact that many Aliens are strikingly humanoid in appearance - possessing two legs, arms, eyes, a nose and mouth, placed in pretty much the same locations as we possess. I don't think such a structural layout is a coincidence. My personal speculation is that we may be genetically related to many so-called ETs. How we might be related is, of course, the 64 dollar question. Many of these humanoids, in my view, look like future versions of humans, give or take a million years or so. This suggests to me the possibility that time-travel, along with millions of probable/parallel realities may be part of the entire paradigm. I also personally think a likely advancement we get to look forward to is to eventually develop a hive mind. Individual bodies, like you and me will become more specialized in order to perform unique tasks for the well-being of the collective. Contrary to what many fear might happen, I suspect we will continue to maintain our individuality while simultaneously maintaining an intimate connection with the collective. IOW, we will eventually learn to play the piano with both hands. Speculating on intelligent/alien hive mind activity is, of course, a favorite science fiction topic. Writers like Arthur C. Clark, David Brin, Joe Haldeman, and Orson Scott Card to name a few have all written fascinating speculative fiction on what it would be like to contact hive minded creatures. Star Trek's, Borg, is just a nasty permutation based on something we aren't yet comfortable with, and therefore fear. IOW, we fear the nature of the hive mind as being something akin to blundering into our grandparent's bedroom one day and accidently seeing grandma naked... or perhaps everyone naked for that matter! I suspect a more likely scenario would be that making contact with hive minded ET intelligences will end up mostly as a benign experience - at least from our personal individuated POVs. I suspect our own Hive Mind is still pretty much in an unconscious state. That's a more charitable way of saying it's still quite dim-witted. It might take us another 10 - 50 thousand years before our collective thoughts finally manage to get upgraded to ET standards. Until then, I suspect most hive intelligences out in the wilds of the cosmos would prefer to keep the dim-witted juveniles safely secured in the game preserve where they can be better monitored - aka CE3/4K. Of course, we may disobey the hive's suggestions and attempt to break out of our little crib before we have been potty trained. What then? Are we too old to get spanked? * * * * * BTW, here's a revised reprint of a fictional character of mine, Vince Dingalint, and his unique perspective on the Infamous Roswell story. Some Vorts may still remember Vince and his unfortunate predicament - which is similar to the fate of Billy Pilgrim. The following link is another test of me revising the look and feel of my still-under-construction web site. Enjoy: http://personalpen.orionworks.com/dingalint-what-happened-at-roswell.htm Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
Just got this from the Yahoo DNNY UFO group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnMvITk5D6cfeature=player_embedded Terry, what do you think? Looks like space jellyfish to me. ...all out of focus, of course. Fertile ground for the imagination. ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Terry, what do you think? putting on MUFON Invertigator hat (it still fits!) Well, they are quite fibrous, eh? I do so love the jellyfish ufo images: http://goo.gl/WcoKX But, when the narrator spoke of deep space images, I have to recall the days when *I* was a amateur astronomer and how disappointed I was with my 8 reflector telescope images. Our moon was cool. And I could just make out Jupiter's moons. However, I have to offer this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY and one of not so good quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenv=r0OIxzFJiKYNR=1 and, while I really want to believe, . . . Maybe Loren Heyer will comment? T
