Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time
In reply to Bob Cook's message of Tue, 24 Mar 2015 07:57:39 -0700: Hi, I think the Li6 nucleus is arranged like this:- 2 neutrons paired with opposite spin. 2 protons paired with opposite spin. 1 neutron left over. 1 proton left over. I think the negative near field of the neutron implies that it has to spin in the same direction as a proton for the pair to be magnetically attracted (N pole of one close to S pole of the other), i.e. in the lowest energy state. Hence the spin of 1 (1/2 + 1/2). However this also means that the magnetic fields of the proton and the neutron don't quite neutralize one another, so the nucleus as a whole should have a small magnetic moment (which it does). That would allow for some magnetic coupling. RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third timeJones-- The -1/2 Dirac spinor may actually couple with the electronic Li-6 structure, which in turn couples to the nucleus via a magnetic quadruple/dipole or electric dipole coupling to allow transfer of spin energy to the nucleus. The fact that the Li-6 is a Bose particle (spin 1) may complicate the coupling or make it possible? The activated Li-6 state probably has a different spin number. I do not know enough about the expected nuclear structure to comment. Maybe Prof. N. Cook's book has something about this issue. Also the chart of nuclides that I have has a symbol for the activation cross section which I am not sure I understand. It may indicate the cross section for photon activation, which is well known to produce isomeric nuclear states in Li-6. This activation must be by electric dipole stimulation or magnetic dipole stimulation. I suspect the latter. The symbol is described as follows: a sigma with a subscript gamma and a with a up-side-down arrow above the sigma followed by a cross section and resonant integral The work by some to consistently stimulate LENR with a laser suggests the same thing (activation) may be possible with certain low power resonant photon stimulation. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time From: hohlr...@gmail.com Spin cartel? I like it! :-) A related subject for those who are invested in Hotsons famous exposition of the Dirac sea is this: how is the energy which can (theoretically) be pumped from another dimension into 3-space related to the Dirac spinor (or is it identical) ? (this poser assumes that the zero point field is a related subset of Diracs sea). Wiki sez that the Dirac spinor is a bispinor which describes relativistic spin-½ wave functions, so there does seem to be a potential coupling from the epo to a spin 1 nucleus like lithium-6. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time
RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third timeJones-- The -1/2 Dirac spinor may actually couple with the electronic Li-6 structure, which in turn couples to the nucleus via a magnetic quadruple/dipole or electric dipole coupling to allow transfer of spin energy to the nucleus. The fact that the Li-6 is a Bose particle (spin 1) may complicate the coupling or make it possible? The activated Li-6 state probably has a different spin number. I do not know enough about the expected nuclear structure to comment. Maybe Prof. N. Cook's book has something about this issue. Also the chart of nuclides that I have has a symbol for the activation cross section which I am not sure I understand. It may indicate the cross section for photon activation, which is well known to produce isomeric nuclear states in Li-6. This activation must be by electric dipole stimulation or magnetic dipole stimulation. I suspect the latter. The symbol is described as follows: a sigma with a subscript gamma and a with a up-side-down arrow above the sigma followed by a cross section and resonant integral The work by some to consistently stimulate LENR with a laser suggests the same thing (activation) may be possible with certain low power resonant photon stimulation. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time From: hohlr...@gmail.com Spin cartel? I like it! :-) A related subject for those who are invested in Hotson’s famous exposition of the Dirac sea is this: how is the energy which can (theoretically) be pumped from another dimension into 3-space related to the Dirac spinor (or is it identical) ? (this poser assumes that the zero point field is a related subset of Dirac’s sea). Wiki sez that the Dirac spinor is a bispinor which describes relativistic spin-½ wave functions, so there does seem to be a potential coupling from the epo to a spin 1 nucleus like lithium-6.
Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time
There's a whole gestalt in dealing with the concept of torque. Does torque really exist? Application of torque increases the energy of a rotating body. Maybe we consider the spinor a particle of torque. At some point the system becomes unstable and there's sudden increase of entropy as it flies apart.
Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time
The nice thing about quantum systems is that they can change their angular momentum one quanta at a time and NOT in a sudden increase or decrease. There is the idea that the increase/decrease changes the basic dimension of a particle, atom, what have you, and this expansion and contraction motion results in phonic energy or heat. The transfer mechanism of spin energy or mass energy (maybe they are the same in some respect) to lattice angular momentum is not well understood. The Dirac spinor from the Dirac Sea may be the catalyst that allows this change from angular momentum to linear momentum of the vibrating lattice and hence, back to angular momentum through the release of photons which include spin? The angular momentum gets out of the system, still being conserved, via neutrinos and photons, both of which carry intrinsic spin--angular momentum--energy. Bob - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time There's a whole gestalt in dealing with the concept of torque. Does torque really exist? Application of torque increases the energy of a rotating body. Maybe we consider the spinor a particle of torque. At some point the system becomes unstable and there's sudden increase of entropy as it flies apart.
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time
Spin cartel? I like it! :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time Date: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 11:10 AM Efimov - for the third time Come to think of it, Bob Cook, as spokesman for the “spin cartel” could easily plug this idea into spin coupling, since the Li6 isotope has spin of 1.
RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Efimov - for the third time
From: hohlr...@gmail.com Spin cartel? I like it! :-) A related subject for those who are invested in Hotson’s famous exposition of the Dirac sea is this: how is the energy which can (theoretically) be pumped from another dimension into 3-space related to the Dirac spinor (or is it identical) ? (this poser assumes that the zero point field is a related subset of Dirac’s sea). Wiki sez that the Dirac spinor is a bispinor which describes relativistic spin-½ wave functions, so there does seem to be a potential coupling from the epo to a spin 1 nucleus like lithium-6.
