Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 09 May 2011 19:42:20 -0400: Hi, [snip] So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! See patent drawing Jed just uploaded : http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf I mentioned to him in private email that I thought that this would invalidate his patent if the Ni was really contained in SS, and his reply was that he didn't try to teach his patent Attorneys their business. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
Akira, I think 6 in your dwg http://i.imgur.com/QOLXZ.png might be a temp sensor . Some questions: 1. Since it appears Rossi went from a cu reactor in the patent to a SS reactor presently shown in the photos can we make the assumption that both work in the same capacity when the inner surface is coated with nickel? 2. When the patent refers to the reactor being filled with powder is it all in the form of a coating or otherwise packed against the heat sink of the inner walls? The questions regarding operating temp seem to suggest any loose powder just filling the void would clump together near melting temp. 3. The patent doesn't say what metal the heater is made of but I would guess tungsten since hydrogen and tungsten are best known To initiate the anomaly since Langmuir Regards Fran Akira Shirakawa Mon, 09 May 2011 17:32:32 -0700 I've made this annotated image for clarity: http://i.imgur.com/QOLXZ.png What is 6 ?
[Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! See patent drawing Jed just uploaded : http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf
Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
here is where the nickel powder coat is discribed: *[0056] *Nickel is coated in a copper tube 100, including a heating electric resistance *101, *adjusted and controlled by a controlling thermostat (not shown) adapted to switch off said resistance *101 *as nickel is activated by hydrogen contained in a bottle *107.* On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! See patent drawing Jed just uploaded : http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf
Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
Hi, On 10-5-2011 1:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! I think you are wrong. First there is the inner SS chamber with one opening at the top where H2 and Ni can be added. Second there is the copper vessel around it were the cold water flows in and steam flows out through the chimney. Third there is the SS clamp to hold the external heater very close against the copper vessel. Looking once again at the photos one can only say these are very cheap parts which are usually used for plumbing and for Central Heating, with probably the only exception of the inner SS chamber, which is possibly milled by a computer-driven workbench. This is what I see in the drawings from the 22passi blog AND the photos taken during the tests with KE. Kind regards, MoB
Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
On 2011-05-10 01:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! See patent drawing Jed just uploaded : http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf I've made this annotated image for clarity: http://i.imgur.com/QOLXZ.png What is 6 ? Cheers, S.A.
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
Thanks Akira, I was going back and forth between the patent and the drawing - Nice job. Best Regards Fran -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:30 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele On 2011-05-10 01:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! See patent drawing Jed just uploaded : http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf I've made this annotated image for clarity: http://i.imgur.com/QOLXZ.png What is 6 ? Cheers, S.A.
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
MoB, I also though the reactor was stainless Steele until I saw the new patents from Italy and US. Regards Fran From: Man on Bridges [mailto:manonbrid...@aim.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele Hi, On 10-5-2011 1:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! I think you are wrong. First there is the inner SS chamber with one opening at the top where H2 and Ni can be added. Second there is the copper vessel around it were the cold water flows in and steam flows out through the chimney. Third there is the SS clamp to hold the external heater very close against the copper vessel. Looking once again at the photos one can only say these are very cheap parts which are usually used for plumbing and for Central Heating, with probably the only exception of the inner SS chamber, which is possibly milled by a computer-driven workbench. This is what I see in the drawings from the 22passi blog AND the photos taken during the tests with KE. Kind regards, MoB
Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
Hi, On 10-5-2011 2:30, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-05-10 01:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! See patent drawing Jed just uploaded : http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RossiAmethodandaa.pdf I've made this annotated image for clarity: http://i.imgur.com/QOLXZ.png Nice explanatory drawing, which seems to be in sync with the US patent-request, but is NOT in sync with the photos taken during the KE test. The SS clamp is NOT leaktight so no water is flowing at the inside of it. Besides it is a dedicated clamp for adding a heater to a pipe, according one of the photos in the KE report it reads 230 V 50Hz. Kind regards, MoB
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
The large amount of iron(10%) found in Rossi ash is proof that the nickel powder is in contract with stainless steel. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: MoB, I also though the reactor was stainless Steele until I saw the new patents from Italy and US. Regards Fran *From:* Man on Bridges [mailto:manonbrid...@aim.com] *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2011 8:22 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele Hi, On 10-5-2011 1:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! I think you are wrong. First there is the inner SS chamber with one opening at the top where H2 and Ni can be added. Second there is the copper vessel around it were the cold water flows in and steam flows out through the chimney. Third there is the SS clamp to hold the external heater very close against the copper vessel. Looking once again at the photos one can only say these are very cheap parts which are usually used for plumbing and for Central Heating, with probably the only exception of the inner SS chamber, which is possibly milled by a computer-driven workbench. This is what I see in the drawings from the 22passi blog AND the photos taken during the tests with KE. Kind regards, MoB
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
Fran, The new US patent is really an old patent. The contents of the Italian patent that was just granted have not been seen by anyone. Harry From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 8:56:21 PM Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele MoB, I also though the reactor was stainless Steele until I saw the new patents from Italy and US. Regards Fran From:Man on Bridges [mailto:manonbrid...@aim.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele Hi, On 10-5-2011 1:42, Roarty, Francis X wrote: So Rossi let us go ahead and think the cu was outside the SS reactor while it was actually the sealed inner reactor filled with Ni powder and a resistive heater. Water flows around the copper reactor inside a SS jacket. The SS is a jacket not a reactor! I think you are wrong. First there is the inner SS chamber with one opening at the top where H2 and Ni can be added. Second there is the copper vessel around it were the cold water flows in and steam flows out through the chimney. Third there is the SS clamp to hold the external heater very close against the copper vessel. Looking once again at the photos one can only say these are very cheap parts which are usually used for plumbing and for Central Heating, with probably the only exception of the inner SS chamber, which is possibly milled by a computer-driven workbench. This is what I see in the drawings from the 22passi blog AND the photos taken during the tests with KE. Kind regards, MoB
Re: [Vo]:cu pipe is sealed inner reactor not Stainless steele
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: What is 6 ? I think that is Ni plating on the reactor surface. T
