Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher


All the news reports indicated that the meeting was Friday night ... long
over by now.  But no updates.
At 05:00 PM 1/13/2012, Alan J Fletcher
wrote:

http://www.lakeeyreyc.com/Status/latest.htm
"Almost dry" 
---  and they report Lake levels in ... millimeters
!!!
I got there via google, but now that link takes me  to a
"doteasy" site.
I read a few more pages, and discovered that due to disputes with
Aboriginal groups, all [nearly all?] access to the lake has been cut
off.

http://www.lakeeyreyc.com/
News : Boating no longer allowed on
Lake Eyre! 
A spanner has been thrown into the works by
National Parks refusal to give permission for us to sail on Lake Eyre
until they have obtained the OK from the native title claimants. From all
reports it appears National Parks are enjoying the opportunity to prevent
us from recreating in their park and are in no hurry to resolve the
issue. This process could take years and means that realistically
speaking the only way to boat on Lake Eyre this year will be by
committing an illegal act and given the anger in our membership this may
happen. 
...
It appears the South Australian Government are
happy to remove our common law right to access and boat on a navigable
waterway. We find this amazing given that there is no legal difference
between our sailing territory and the River Murray. As Indigenous
Australians lived alongside every waterway in the country will your
favorite boating place be next? Unfortunately we cannot match the free
legal services the complainants have at their disposal so all we can do
is make the public aware of the erosion of the right to recreate in a
National Park in an environmentally sustainable way. 
...





Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-13 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 10:40 AM 1/13/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:


wrote:
 


>On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear
Admiral of the Lake Eyre Yacht Club.

Note, this lake is a salt lake and only has water in it after a
flood. :)



http://www.lakeeyreyc.com/Status/latest.htm
"Almost dry"  ---  and they report Lake levels in ...
millimeters !!!
 




Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-13 Thread Alain Sepeda
FYI a new article about dick smith

http://www.merredinmercury.com.au/news/national/national/general/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-world/2418684.aspx

2012/1/13 Jed Rothwell 

>  wrote:
>
>
>> >On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear Admiral of
>> the Lake Eyre Yacht Club.
>> >
>> >
>> Note, this lake is a salt lake and only has water in it after a flood. :)
>>
>
> I love it! A Rear Admiral! This is my kind of guy.
>
> - Jed
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
 wrote:


> >On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear Admiral of the
> Lake Eyre Yacht Club.
> >
> >
> Note, this lake is a salt lake and only has water in it after a flood. :)
>

I love it! A Rear Admiral! This is my kind of guy.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Harry Veeder  wrote:
> You mean he wants to get a tax credit?

No, there are altruistic people in the world.

T



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread mixent
In reply to  Alan J Fletcher's message of Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:52:48 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
>At 01:37 PM 1/12/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
>At 12:46 PM 1/12/2012, Jones Beene wrote:
>> Hmmm ... why all the Ausie eCat Interest? Where's OUR GUY?
>Maybe he *is* Dick Smith...(Need to check on his yachts  ) 
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Smith_%28entrepreneur%29#Australian_products 
>On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear Admiral of the Lake 
>Eyre Yacht Club.
>
>
Note, this lake is a salt lake and only has water in it after a flood. :)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
You mean he wants to get a tax credit?

harry

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Terry Blanton  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Harry Veeder  wrote:
>> why doesn't he just pay Rossi 200 000 if the test is successful?
>
> It's free money for charity otherwise.  Do you clip coupons?
>
> T
>



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Harry Veeder  wrote:
> why doesn't he just pay Rossi 200 000 if the test is successful?

It's free money for charity otherwise.  Do you clip coupons?

T



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Harry Veeder
why doesn't he just pay Rossi 200 000 if the test is successful?

harry

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
> Casual readers may have missed this. The story here is that someone
> has apparently gone from Australia to Italy to visit Rossi and test the
> machine. Quote:
>
> "The entrepreneur Dick Smith has sent a consulting  aerospace engineer, Ian
> Bryce, who has a science background, to assess the machine on his behalf."
>
> The other story is Rossi talking to them via Skype.
>
> When I first read this, I was wondering how anyone can settle a bet for
> $200,000 based on a Skype call. Apparently they have persuaded Rossi to
> allow a test. Maybe it is because he has soft spot for charity events. (He
> does -- no kidding.)
>
> I doubt Rossi will allow an test adequate to settle such a large wager. If I
> were Smith I would want rock solid proof.
>
> - Jed
>



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 04:00 PM 1/12/2012, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
What a wanker report

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/12/smith_offers_ecat_prize/
The only BS is that from this publication.
Well, it does end :
Since the Herald won't say it, The Register will: do
not invest any money in E-cat until someone can reproduce the
experiment and explain the mechanism by which the fusion takes place, to
the satisfaction of the scientific journals. Or until Smith signs a
cheque for his $AU200k. 





Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
If Dick Smith comes out of his sort of semi retirement, puts his money, 
influence and passion behind the E-Cat, Aussie will become a E-Cat hotbed.


AG


On 1/13/2012 10:35 AM, Craig Brown wrote:


Agreed.

I emailed this guy and told him exactly what I thought of his report. 
It's so full of ridicule and innacurate information that no wonder 
ordinary folks can't get behind LENR.  If you look back at his 
previous articles he's the closed minded type.


Probably has a subscription to Bob Park and James Randi.

Grrr...

 Original Message ----
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group
$200,000 if
    e-cat work as claimed by rossi
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, January 13, 2012 10:00 am
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>

What a wanker report
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/12/smith_offers_ecat_prize/
The only BS is that from this publication.





RE: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Craig Brown
Agreed. I emailed this guy and told him exactly what I thought of his report. It's so full of ridicule and innacurate information that no wonder ordinary folks can't get behind LENR.  If you look back at his previous articles he's the closed minded type. Probably has a subscription to Bob Park and James Randi.Grrr...


 Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if
e-cat work as claimed by rossi
From: Aussie Guy E-Cat <aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, January 13, 2012 10:00 am
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

What a wanker report
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/12/smith_offers_ecat_prize/
The only BS is that from this publication.







Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat

What a wanker report
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/12/smith_offers_ecat_prize/
The only BS is that from this publication.



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Dick Smith is legendary. If he gets behind Rossi, it will make our 
efforts seem like child's play. He can open doors at any level of 
industry or government. He is not afraid to back the underdog, attach 
the status quo and to "have a go mate". With this getting into the SMH 
and Dick Smith sending this engineer to Rossi, there is more here than 
just a bet. You can be sure of that.


AG


On 1/13/2012 10:11 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Casual readers may have missed this. The story here is that someone 
has apparently gone from Australia to Italy to visit Rossi and test 
the machine. Quote:


"The entrepreneur Dick Smith has sent a consulting  aerospace 
engineer, Ian Bryce, who has a science background, to assess the 
machine on his behalf."


The other story is Rossi talking to them via Skype.

When I first read this, I was wondering how anyone can settle a bet 
for $200,000 based on a Skype call. Apparently they have persuaded 
Rossi to allow a test. Maybe it is because he has soft spot for 
charity events. (He does -- no kidding.)


I doubt Rossi will allow an test adequate to settle such a large 
wager. If I were Smith I would want rock solid proof.


- Jed




Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 02:33 PM 1/12/2012, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:

Being a quite achiever.


Alternative typo : Being quite AN achiever.




Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Casual readers may have missed this. The story here is that someone
has apparently gone from Australia to Italy to visit Rossi and test the
machine. Quote:

"The entrepreneur Dick Smith has sent a consulting  aerospace engineer, Ian
Bryce, who has a science background, to assess the machine on his behalf."

The other story is Rossi talking to them via Skype.

When I first read this, I was wondering how anyone can settle a bet for
$200,000 based on a Skype call. Apparently they have persuaded Rossi to
allow a test. Maybe it is because he has soft spot for charity events. (He
does -- no kidding.)

I doubt Rossi will allow an test adequate to settle such a large wager. If
I were Smith I would want rock solid proof.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
It is my dyslexia. Always get letters back to front. Many times spell 
check can't pick it up. I need to type much slower and reread everything 
I type several times. Even then I miss some words.


AG


On 1/13/2012 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Aussie Guy E-Cat > wrote:


Being a quite achiever. Lots happening and in progress.


I assume you mean QUIET achiever. Not quite quite. Quite quiet.

- Jed




Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
We are not directly involved but suspect some of our work has leaked a 
bit. There have been a few probing emails as of late. This group could 
be the source or it could be other groups that are starting to form. The 
market size and variety is HUGH. FPE devices will completely reshape how 
we generate and use energy. Plenty of room for many players. I'm sure 
Dick Smith would love to have a FPE powered chopper with unlimited 
range. 2012 will be the year that the world wakes up to FPE devices. 
2013 will see massive development. By 2015 the use of FPE devises will 
be widespread and will be the preferred power source. Off the shelf CHP 
FPE powered generators, running domestic homes and commercial offices 
will be common place. Every man and his dog will be involved in selling 
and installing domestic and commercial CHP systems. There will be a 
massive waiting period. Many HVAC people that are struggling to make a 
buck today will become very rich. Despite all this, the Arctic Ice Cap 
will melt out in the summer of 2015. Methane release into the Arctic 
atmosphere will massively accelerate. GW will get a steroid like boost. 
We will have a tool to fix it but it may be too late to stop it. FPE 
devices will help to reduce the worst effects and will save many lives. 
Rossi will never get a Nobel. Others, who finally figure out what is 
going on will. Direct FPE to electrical generation will happen. Yes all 
this by the end of 2015.


AG


On 1/13/2012 9:25 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
  wrote:

Being a quite achiever. Lots happening and in progress.

Are you involved in this test?  Will you give us a special report if so?

T




Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Aussie Guy E-Cat  wrote:

Being a quite achiever. Lots happening and in progress.


I assume you mean QUIET achiever. Not quite quite. Quite quiet.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
 wrote:
> Being a quite achiever. Lots happening and in progress.

Are you involved in this test?  Will you give us a special report if so?

T



Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat

Being a quite achiever. Lots happening and in progress.

AG


On 1/13/2012 6:47 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote:

At 06:20 AM 1/12/2012, David ledin wrote:

Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if  Mr Bryce,  a
member of the Australian Skeptics confirm e-cat work  as claimed by
rossi.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-world-20120112-1pxj2.html 




Hmmm ... why all the Ausie eCat Interest? Where's OUR GUY?





RE: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 01:37 PM 1/12/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 12:46 PM 1/12/2012, Jones
Beene wrote:
> Hmmm ... why all the Ausie
eCat Interest? Where's OUR GUY?
Maybe he *is* Dick Smith...(Need to check on his yachts 
) 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Smith_%28entrepreneur%29#Australian_products

On 29 June 2010 Dick Smith accepted the commission of Rear Admiral of the
Lake Eyre Yacht
Club.





RE: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 12:46 PM 1/12/2012, Jones Beene wrote:

> Hmmm ... why all the Ausie eCat Interest? Where's OUR GUY?
Maybe he *is* Dick Smith...


Hmmm ... $200K is the same amount AeCG was willing to spend on a centa-cat.
(Need to check on his yachts  ) 



RE: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if
e-cat work as claimed by rossi

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-w
orld-20120112-1pxj2.html

> Hmmm ... why all the Ausie eCat Interest? Where's OUR GUY?

Maybe he *is* Dick Smith...

Seriously, for whatever reason, I have found that Aussies are at least 27.2
times more likely to be interested in fringe energy technologies, per
capita, than any other country (there aren't many of them for one thing). 

This is not limited to LENR by any means. They also seem to have at a least
54.4 times greater appreciation (or tolerance) for Randy Mills. 

But that was B.R. (before Rossi).

Jones
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Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:20 AM, David ledin
wrote:

> Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if  Mr Bryce,  a
> member of the Australian Skeptics confirm e-cat work  as claimed by
> rossi.
>
>
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-world-20120112-1pxj2.html
>

This doesn't make sense.  Why would Rossi care about $200K?  He already
said he doesn't want to do any more tests.  And he claims he has a more
than $20 million client!   Maybe these folks have not been following
Rossi's blog, LOL.


Re: [Vo]:Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if e-cat work as claimed by rossi

2012-01-12 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 06:20 AM 1/12/2012, David ledin wrote:

Dick Smith will give to the charity group $200,000 if  Mr Bryce,  a
member of the Australian Skeptics confirm e-cat work  as claimed by
rossi.
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/mullumbimby-helping-to-save-world-20120112-1pxj2.html



Hmmm ... why all the Ausie eCat Interest? Where's OUR GUY?