Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
DARN YOUR SOCKS! This could have been the best troll since the NIST report! Terry On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' > is spoof-central. > > (Terry is teary-eyed LOL) > > > >
RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
Duh, that doesn't sound right... They must have meant 1st cousin 9 times removed a generation being about 20 years. -Original Message- From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2008 23:09 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image Sounds like a personality cult. Mind you Downe House is just down the road from Biggin Hill (where I work when not at the university) and about 50 miles away on the other side of the river Thames around the river Crouch and Blackwater estuaries it is alleged that the Beagle's timbers are recycled in some of the buildings. Often beautiful picturesque countryside or buildings surround these places and I do go on an 'Homage a Darwin' sometimes. I know someone who claims to be a 9th cousin 1 once removed of Darwin. Very near Downe House too at Keston William Pitt the younger and William Wilberforce discussed the anti-slavery bill. Loads of history in the very small crowded UK.
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
Sounds like a personality cult. Mind you Downe House is just down the road from Biggin Hill (where I work when not at the university) and about 50 miles away on the other side of the river Thames around the river Crouch and Blackwater estuaries it is alleged that the Beagle's timbers are recycled in some of the buildings. Often beautiful picturesque countryside or buildings surround these places and I do go on an 'Homage a Darwin' sometimes. I know someone who claims to be a 9th cousin 1 once removed of Darwin. Very near Downe House too at Keston William Pitt the younger and William Wilberforce discussed the anti-slavery bill. Loads of history in the very small crowded UK.
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
The last I heard the Onion was a comedy magazine. Quoting David Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin "I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits," said Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the mysterious stain, which appeared last Monday on one side of the Rhea County Courthouse. Seems crazy. To treat Darwin that way would make him a personality. Darwin's view on evolution is impersonal. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
Of course some ideas are bad. But if they are the focus, they can be rejected. In contrast, if the person is the focus, that person can have a rich assortment of ideas, some good and some bad. All are accepted regardless of their quality when the person is the focus. For example, people supported Bush because he was the kind of person with whom you would like to share a beer. Besides, he was a born again Christian. What harm could he do, they would ask. If his policies had been examined, we might have avoided the present mess. We are now presented with the same issue in the present election. The question is, will the voters have learned anything from their past mistake? Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: I am not sure identification with an idea is necessarily better. Some ideas, for better or for worse, can encourage or impede certain kinds of research. The power of identity can be harnessed for good or bad. Harry on 14/9/08 11:55 am, Edmund Storms at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I understand your point and I agree. Not just Buddha is worshiped but Christ and many of the "saints" as well. This is another human need, i.e. to identify with the person rather than with the idea. Unfortunately, this creates great trouble when the identification is with the personality of a leader rather than with his goals and policy. But, it looks like we are stuck with this characteristic. Ed
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
Ah so, now my faith in the unique role of religion in creating delusion is no long in jeopardy. :-) Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Jones Beene wrote: You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' is spoof-central. (Terry is teary-eyed LOL)
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
I am not sure identification with an idea is necessarily better. Some ideas, for better or for worse, can encourage or impede certain kinds of research. The power of identity can be harnessed for good or bad. Harry on 14/9/08 11:55 am, Edmund Storms at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I understand your point and I agree. Not just Buddha is worshiped but Christ and many of the "saints" as well. This is another human need, i.e. to identify with the person rather than with the idea. Unfortunately, this creates great trouble when the identification is with the personality of a leader rather than with his goals and policy. But, it looks like we are stuck with this characteristic. Ed
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
Yes, I understand your point and I agree. Not just Buddha is worshiped but Christ and many of the "saints" as well. This is another human need, i.e. to identify with the person rather than with the idea. Unfortunately, this creates great trouble when the identification is with the personality of a leader rather than with his goals and policy. But, it looks like we are stuck with this characteristic. Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:33 AM, David Jonsson wrote: I was referring to the inconsistency of making personal worship of an impersonalists. It is the same problem that classically, historically, and commonly are performed by those who worship Buddha as a person. Personal worship is in itself and performed to suitable personalities not bad at all. If the mother wants to free her kid from genetic misdesign she should likely worship a modern virus designer. They can make viruses who enter the body and alters DNA. The issue of health improvement with genetic therapies would need some personality to speed up. My honors to them! The problem is that such researchers usually do not want to become the subject of public attention. Impersonal improvement of DNA errors? No, not a chance. David On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it is crazy. Such events are a sanity test of the people reacting. Insanity and delusion are real pathologies of the mind that are frequently ignored when such events are interpreted. People want to believe so badly in magic that they will see whatever supports this need. At this point, they leave the real world and enter the world of delusion, which is one of the components of what is called insanity. This event involving Darwin is unusual because it does not involve God and religion. It shows one again that delusions can occur in other forms besides the common ones. Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:01 AM, David Jonsson wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin "I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits," said Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the mysterious stain, which appeared last Monday on one side of the Rhea County Courthouse. Seems crazy. To treat Darwin that way would make him a personality. Darwin's view on evolution is impersonal. David -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370 -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' is spoof-central. (Terry is teary-eyed LOL)
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
I was referring to the inconsistency of making personal worship of an impersonalists. It is the same problem that classically, historically, and commonly are performed by those who worship Buddha as a person. Personal worship is in itself and performed to suitable personalities not bad at all. If the mother wants to free her kid from genetic misdesign she should likely worship a modern virus designer. They can make viruses who enter the body and alters DNA. The issue of health improvement with genetic therapies would need some personality to speed up. My honors to them! The problem is that such researchers usually do not want to become the subject of public attention. Impersonal improvement of DNA errors? No, not a chance. David On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Yes, it is crazy. Such events are a sanity test of the people reacting. > Insanity and delusion are real pathologies of the mind that are frequently > ignored when such events are interpreted. People want to believe so badly > in magic that they will see whatever supports this need. At this point, they > leave the real world and enter the world of delusion, which is one of > the components of what is called insanity. This event involving Darwin is > unusual because it does not involve God and religion. It shows one again > that delusions can occur in other forms besides the common ones. > Ed > > > > > > > On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:01 AM, David Jonsson wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin >> >> "I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can >> purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits," said >> Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the >> mysterious stain, which appeared last Monday on one side of the Rhea >> County Courthouse. > > > Seems crazy. To treat Darwin that way would make him a > personality. Darwin's view on evolution is impersonal. > > David > > -- > David Jonsson > Sweden > phone callto:+46703000370 > > > -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
Yes, it is crazy. Such events are a sanity test of the people reacting. Insanity and delusion are real pathologies of the mind that are frequently ignored when such events are interpreted. People want to believe so badly in magic that they will see whatever supports this need. At this point, they leave the real world and enter the world of delusion, which is one of the components of what is called insanity. This event involving Darwin is unusual because it does not involve God and religion. It shows one again that delusions can occur in other forms besides the common ones. Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:01 AM, David Jonsson wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin "I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits," said Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the mysterious stain, which appeared last Monday on one side of the Rhea County Courthouse. Seems crazy. To treat Darwin that way would make him a personality. Darwin's view on evolution is impersonal. David -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin > > "I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can > purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits," said > Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the > mysterious stain, which appeared last Monday on one side of the Rhea > County Courthouse. Seems crazy. To treat Darwin that way would make him a personality. Darwin's view on evolution is impersonal. David -- David Jonsson Sweden phone callto:+46703000370
