Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
I'm working on this issue for MFMP, with good progress. Best success so far is with Swagelok aluminum ferrules and stainless steel nuts, applied directly to the alumina tube. This combination is vacuum tight at 30 microns and pressure tight at 10 bar and nearly 800 C (at the center of the tube). My test report is here: https://BRNO.uk.quickconnect.to/direct/ns/sharing/zctms AlanG On 1/15/2015 6:57 PM, Jack Cole wrote: The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com mailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com mailto:jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com mailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com mailto:jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Alan, That sounds good. For some reason, the link is not working for me (blank page). On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:59 AM, AlanG a...@magicsound.us wrote: I'm working on this issue for MFMP, with good progress. Best success so far is with Swagelok aluminum ferrules and stainless steel nuts, applied directly to the alumina tube. This combination is vacuum tight at 30 microns and pressure tight at 10 bar and nearly 800 C (at the center of the tube). My test report is here: https://BRNO.uk.quickconnect.to/direct/ns/sharing/zctms AlanG On 1/15/2015 6:57 PM, Jack Cole wrote: The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Here's a better link to my report on sealing alumina tubes: http://www.evernote.com/l/AXfl-iUGsYBIZIFOOue-rH9OiCkc4t-3lm8/ AlanG On 1/15/2015 6:57 PM, Jack Cole wrote: The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com mailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com mailto:jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com mailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com mailto:jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
From: AlanG Here's a better link to my report on sealing alumina tubes: http://www.evernote.com/l/AXfl-iUGsYBIZIFOOue-rH9OiCkc4t-3lm8/ AlanG Thanks. The (ceramic tube-to-metal w/compression fitting - at moderate temp) - makes so much more sense than trying to seal ceramic at high temp. Makes one wonder how the great inventor Rossi could have missed it. Look forward to seeing how well this contains hydrogen. attachment: winmail.dat
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Thanks Alan. Great work! On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 12:14 PM, AlanG a...@magicsound.us wrote: Here's a better link to my report on sealing alumina tubes: http://www.evernote.com/l/AXfl-iUGsYBIZIFOOue-rH9OiCkc4t-3lm8/ AlanG On 1/15/2015 6:57 PM, Jack Cole wrote: The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Thanks Axil. Some useful information there. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: An excerpt from the Lugano report: A thermocouple probe, inserted into one of the caps, allows the control system to manage power supply to the resistors by measuring the internal temperature of the reactor. The hole for the thermocouple probe is also the only access point for the fuel charge. The thermocouple probe cable is inserted in an alumina cement cylinder, which acts as a bushing and perfectly fits the hole, about 4 mm in diameter. When charging the reactor, the bushing is pulled out, and the charge is inserted. After the thermocouple probe has been lodged back in place, the bushing is sealed and secured with alumina cement. To extract the charge, pliers are used to open the seal. The alumina to metal sealing technique that Rossi uses is both elegant and simple. Rossi's alumina core tube has a hole at its end that is just a little bit wider than the metal plug used to fill it. After Rossi fills the alumina tube with fuel, there is a slight space (say ten thousandth of a inch)between the metal plug and the hole in the alumina body(5.4). The space will be coated with fuel which includes aluminum(22), lithium(46), and nickel(13). The numbers in parentheses are the thermal coefficients of expansion of of the various materials in the alumina and the fuel found in this table as follows” http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html A hole sealing process will occur to thermally bond the metal plug to the hole in the alumina when heated as follows: As the alumina heats up, the fuel residue coating will form a tight fitting metalized gadget between the metal plug and alumina hole. The fuel will liquefy and form a aluminum nickel lithium alloy and fill the micro-cracks on the surface of the hole and the metal plug. The metal plug will be pressure welded into the hole because of the differences in the thermal coefficients of expansion between the various metals ad the alumina to form a leak proof seal that will stand up to very high gas pressure, These recent tests by MFMP indicate that sealing alumina from hydrogen leakage is a challenge. But the Rossi Hot Cat did run for weeks without apparent loss of hydrogen. Rossi has come up with a way to effectively seal alumina. How could have Rossi made the alumina tube resistant to hydrogen leakage? Could Rossi have used a self sealing fuel additive included in the fuel mix that entered the pores of the alumina after the reactor was started to minimize hydrogen exfiltration? There was a large amount of carbon in the element analysis of the fuel load. Could it be that Rossi used a organic sealant to stop hydrogen leakage? An excerpt from the Lugano report:Sample 2 was the fuel used to charge the E-Cat. It’s in the form of a very fine powder. Besides the analyzed elements it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash. Where did all those rather high concentrations of elements go? Could it be that the C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, and Mn were nano particles used to seal the fuel including hydrogen by blocking the pores of the alumina in a self anodizing process in the initial stages during reactor startup? Carbon is a well know hydrogen blocker. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Hi Folks, Failed to repeat this in a subsequent experiment yesterday. For some reason, I had poor hydrogen production. Will try again next week when I receive more alumina tubes. Quite interesting was the lack of the variability in the resistance of the heating coil in this experiment versus the last one. I'm not sure what to make of that. http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/15/attempted-replication-excess-heating/ Best regards, Jack On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: can it be connected with the work of Dennis Letts and ENEA, recently published? I feel it is an interesting signature of the NAE, allowing to investigate it's characteristic in a phenomenological way : size, charges, location... 2015-01-14 5:18 GMT+01:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: Jack, the very best of luck. *Fleischmann*/*Pons* detected RF when their cell was in operation. I suspect that RF is a reaction byproduct in the same way as heat. Do you plan to check for R product by the LENR reaction?. A RF detecter can be had at a reasonable cost http://www.amazon.com/KJB-DD2020-Personal-RF-Detector/dp/B000KL6NNW On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jones. Good suggestion on the Nichrome. If this pans out, that would be a good thing to try for enhancing the reaction. I don't have any way to estimate the hydrogen loss. I can only tell when it is occurring. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 Jones *From:* Jed Rothwell http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
The seal is not completely hermetic, so I can detect when hydrogen is being leaked with a gas detector. It occurred only occasionally during this experiment. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Failed to repeat this in a subsequent experiment yesterday. Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. For some reason, I had poor hydrogen production. What do you mean? - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
This advise given to MFMP shows the pitfalls in using heat as an indicator of an active LENR reaction in an experiment. 5 hours a day now... and the importance of certainty and safety. Project /Fedora\ Today, Francesco Piantelli continued to add detail about what is required for a replication of his famous experiment, we are starting to really appreciate what a good experiment it is. ... He also spent a lot of time on the all important matter of credibility in claims. Principally about the HUGE amount of energy that can be stored in various forms of Hydrogen and that must absolutely be excluded before any meaningful conclusion could be had about anomalous heat. He talked about ionisation, absorption, re-combination, para and ortho and various charge states etc. Just ionisation energy of 1.008 g (1 mole of Hydrogen) is 1,312 kilojoules, the re-combination is 423 kilojoules and so on. Without a full account of the amount of potential hydrogen in a reaction, results are a fantasy and will not be taken seriously. He also cautioned about the potential risks of the work we are undertaking. Looking directly into our eyes, he talked of his fear when he had a reaction out of control. The calling of the then brilliant Focardi past 2 am that fateful morning in desperation as to how to shut down an experiment gone rogue. Given that we are meant to be studying a phenomenon that may have its roots in non-chemical energy and given that this sample, as well known, produced a spectra of radiation and particles, we should be absolutely certain of what we have in cells to avoid potentially serious consequences. He then talked of historical deaths associated with forays into the unknown in related fields and said that the shear volume of theories surrounding this field just goes to show that understanding is in its infancy. He considers it foolish to just throw stuff in a reactor to see what happens and that there were obvious implications should someone also discover experiments that ran away in the way he experienced. He also expressed a real fear that one bad outcome could shut down this field for good. We are reminded of the very sincere warnings we had from Francesco Celani at the start of our journey, that we have to proceed with extreme caution - safety, safety, safety. We are glad that we have him as a mentor right now as he will help us to avoid problems based on his cumulative understanding, but he freely admits that he can't know everything so we should be careful to watch every event. He is a true scientist, there is no doubt about that. In the given image, you can see his experimentally calculated energy required for the critical heterogenous dissociation of Hydrogen. Oh, and he confirmed a few times that all transition metals show the effect, but Nickel is easier (relatively for an extremely complex phenomenon) and cheaper. Excess heat is a poor indicator of an active LENR reaction. A more immediate indicator of the onset of the LENR reaction is the onset of RF radiation and/or the drop in electrical resistance in the heater circuit. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: An excerpt from the Lugano report: A thermocouple probe, inserted into one of the caps, allows the control system to manage power supply to the resistors by measuring the internal temperature of the reactor. The hole for the thermocouple probe is also the only access point for the fuel charge. The thermocouple probe cable is inserted in an alumina cement cylinder, which acts as a bushing and perfectly fits the hole, about 4 mm in diameter. When charging the reactor, the bushing is pulled out, and the charge is inserted. After the thermocouple probe has been lodged back in place, the bushing is sealed and secured with alumina cement. To extract the charge, pliers are used to open the seal. The alumina to metal sealing technique that Rossi uses is both elegant and simple. Rossi's alumina core tube has a hole at its end that is just a little bit wider than the metal plug used to fill it. After Rossi fills the alumina tube with fuel, there is a slight space (say ten thousandth of a inch)between the metal plug and the hole in the alumina body(5.4). The space will be coated with fuel which includes aluminum(22), lithium(46), and nickel(13). The numbers in parentheses are the thermal coefficients of expansion of of the various materials in the alumina and the fuel found in this table as follows” http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html A hole sealing process will occur to thermally bond the metal plug to the hole in the alumina when heated as follows: As the alumina heats up, the fuel residue coating will form a tight fitting metalized gadget between the metal plug and alumina hole. The fuel will liquefy and form a aluminum nickel lithium alloy and fill the micro-cracks on the surface of the hole and
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Failed to repeat this in a subsequent experiment yesterday. Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. For some reason, I had poor hydrogen production. What do you mean? - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
An excerpt from the Lugano report: A thermocouple probe, inserted into one of the caps, allows the control system to manage power supply to the resistors by measuring the internal temperature of the reactor. The hole for the thermocouple probe is also the only access point for the fuel charge. The thermocouple probe cable is inserted in an alumina cement cylinder, which acts as a bushing and perfectly fits the hole, about 4 mm in diameter. When charging the reactor, the bushing is pulled out, and the charge is inserted. After the thermocouple probe has been lodged back in place, the bushing is sealed and secured with alumina cement. To extract the charge, pliers are used to open the seal. The alumina to metal sealing technique that Rossi uses is both elegant and simple. Rossi's alumina core tube has a hole at its end that is just a little bit wider than the metal plug used to fill it. After Rossi fills the alumina tube with fuel, there is a slight space (say ten thousandth of a inch)between the metal plug and the hole in the alumina body(5.4). The space will be coated with fuel which includes aluminum(22), lithium(46), and nickel(13). The numbers in parentheses are the thermal coefficients of expansion of of the various materials in the alumina and the fuel found in this table as follows” http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html A hole sealing process will occur to thermally bond the metal plug to the hole in the alumina when heated as follows: As the alumina heats up, the fuel residue coating will form a tight fitting metalized gadget between the metal plug and alumina hole. The fuel will liquefy and form a aluminum nickel lithium alloy and fill the micro-cracks on the surface of the hole and the metal plug. The metal plug will be pressure welded into the hole because of the differences in the thermal coefficients of expansion between the various metals ad the alumina to form a leak proof seal that will stand up to very high gas pressure, These recent tests by MFMP indicate that sealing alumina from hydrogen leakage is a challenge. But the Rossi Hot Cat did run for weeks without apparent loss of hydrogen. Rossi has come up with a way to effectively seal alumina. How could have Rossi made the alumina tube resistant to hydrogen leakage? Could Rossi have used a self sealing fuel additive included in the fuel mix that entered the pores of the alumina after the reactor was started to minimize hydrogen exfiltration? There was a large amount of carbon in the element analysis of the fuel load. Could it be that Rossi used a organic sealant to stop hydrogen leakage? An excerpt from the Lugano report:Sample 2 was the fuel used to charge the E-Cat. It’s in the form of a very fine powder. Besides the analyzed elements it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash. Where did all those rather high concentrations of elements go? Could it be that the C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, and Mn were nano particles used to seal the fuel including hydrogen by blocking the pores of the alumina in a self anodizing process in the initial stages during reactor startup? Carbon is a well know hydrogen blocker. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: The description in the report is insufficient to determine what was used to make the seal and whether it was hermetically sealed. On Jan 15, 2015 8:53 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It does work, It worked for Rossi for 32 days. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: It might work. I have been looking at those options (i.e., metal compression fitting). On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like Rossi did, MFMP has just tested and intends to use in their next experiment a metal plug or a thermocouple probe to seal the fuel feed hole in the alumina rod. Why is this sealing process not right for you? On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it bolsters the results of the first experiment by demonstrating that reliability. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: Well, it is a nice clean blank anyway. The two sets of points fit on top of one-another beautiful. Meaning the instrument is reliable as a calorimeter. This is important. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
can it be connected with the work of Dennis Letts and ENEA, recently published? I feel it is an interesting signature of the NAE, allowing to investigate it's characteristic in a phenomenological way : size, charges, location... 2015-01-14 5:18 GMT+01:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: Jack, the very best of luck. *Fleischmann*/*Pons* detected RF when their cell was in operation. I suspect that RF is a reaction byproduct in the same way as heat. Do you plan to check for R product by the LENR reaction?. A RF detecter can be had at a reasonable cost http://www.amazon.com/KJB-DD2020-Personal-RF-Detector/dp/B000KL6NNW On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jones. Good suggestion on the Nichrome. If this pans out, that would be a good thing to try for enhancing the reaction. I don't have any way to estimate the hydrogen loss. I can only tell when it is occurring. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 Jones *From:* Jed Rothwell http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Jack, the very best of luck. *Fleischmann*/*Pons* detected RF when their cell was in operation. I suspect that RF is a reaction byproduct in the same way as heat. Do you plan to check for R product by the LENR reaction?. A RF detecter can be had at a reasonable cost http://www.amazon.com/KJB-DD2020-Personal-RF-Detector/dp/B000KL6NNW On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jones. Good suggestion on the Nichrome. If this pans out, that would be a good thing to try for enhancing the reaction. I don't have any way to estimate the hydrogen loss. I can only tell when it is occurring. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 Jones *From:* Jed Rothwell http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/
RE: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Jack: Thanks for exiting the peanut gallery and jumping into the frying pan! I might be able to donate a thing or two to the effort… -mark iverson From: Jack Cole [mailto:jcol...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication Thanks Jones. Good suggestion on the Nichrome. If this pans out, that would be a good thing to try for enhancing the reaction. I don't have any way to estimate the hydrogen loss. I can only tell when it is occurring. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 _trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 Jones From: Jed Rothwell http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Thanks Jones. Good suggestion on the Nichrome. If this pans out, that would be a good thing to try for enhancing the reaction. I don't have any way to estimate the hydrogen loss. I can only tell when it is occurring. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 Jones *From:* Jed Rothwell http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Thanks Jed. I plan to do some follow-up experiments to rule out alternative explanations. Explained here: http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/14/experimental-plans-replication/ I have started the calibration run to see if it can be replicated. I should have results in a day or two. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: More about this: http://coldfusionnow.org/qa-with-jack-cole-on-new-hot-cat-replication-experiment-completion/
RE: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
Congrats to Jack – and gain is gain, so do not fret over low COP as it will improve. Can you estimate the rate of hydrogen loss? I would love to see Kanthal windings compared against Nichrome 80. Not expensive here and the ohms/ft. are listed. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40 http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 _trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xnichrome-80_nkw=nichrome-80_sacat=0 Jones From: Jed Rothwell http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2015/01/13/hot-cat-replication-attempt/
Re: [Vo]:Jack Cole's report on Hot Cat replication
More about this: http://coldfusionnow.org/qa-with-jack-cole-on-new-hot-cat-replication-experiment-completion/
