Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Last year, Rossi insisted that he would never do business with the
military. Now this! He is inconsistent, to say the least.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi’s reactor is attractive to the US military because of its very high
power density. The E-Cat catalyst (AKA secret sauce) reduces the size and
weight of the LENR core by a factor of 100 over a non-catalyzed reactor.
One gram of nickel in a E-Cat does the work of 100 grams in non-catalyzed
reactor (Brillouin Energy system).



This small and compact LENR 10 KW core cigarette pack sized form factor is
attractive for airborne, mobile and boots on the ground military
applications.



The 1 Mw size equates to about 100 horsepower at 10% to15% solid state heat
to electric conversion efficiency.

, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last year, Rossi insisted that he would never do business with the
 military. Now this! He is inconsistent, to say the least.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber





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 Last year, Rossi insisted that he would never do business with
the military. Now this! He is inconsistent, to say the least.
- Jed

Yep.
I noticed that also.
He has the traits of a superficially charming sociopath.
In the best case he is a 'Karl May' character.

I mentioned that possibility some weeks ago.
His phantasies, albeit completely fictitious, shaped the thinking of
several  generations of Germans.
Similar to Disney, Superman, Batman, 007 etc in the angloamerican idiom.

A cautious tale to be remembered.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last year, Rossi insisted that he would never do business with the military.

Is that what he said?  I remember it differently.  He was talking
about selling licenses but not for military applications.

The way I took it was that, he already had a relationship with the
military and no military licenses were available.

I also remember an early post on 22passi.blogspot.com, soon after the
January demo announcement that a reactor had been on a naval vessel
for over a year.

But, I could be wrong.  I often have lucid dreams.

T

T



Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:


 The way I took it was that, he already had a relationship with the
 military and no military licenses were available.


He told me he did not want the technology used by the military because he
is a pacifist.

I have no idea if that is how he truly felt. Perhaps, as you suggest, it
was actually because he was already in negotiations with them. He says lots
of things that should be disregarded.

Frankly, I would be surprised if he presently is doing any business with
the military in any country. If I were a military procurement officer I
wouldn't give him the time of day.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 He told me he did not want the technology used by the military because he is
 a pacifist.

Capitalism trumps being a pacifist.  :-)

 I have no idea if that is how he truly felt. Perhaps, as you suggest, it was
 actually because he was already in negotiations with them. He says lots of
 things that should be disregarded.

 Frankly, I would be surprised if he presently is doing any business with the
 military in any country. If I were a military procurement officer I wouldn't
 give him the time of day.

I seriously doubt any procurement officer would be involved in this
transaction.  I would think all this would occur at a much higher pay
grade.

T



Re: [Vo]:Rossi: The 1 MW plant is for military purpose

2012-04-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:


 I seriously doubt any procurement officer would be involved in
 this transaction.  I would think all this would occur at a much higher
 pay grade.


Given the way he treated the people from NASA and others, you would have to
be crazy to deal with him at any level. It would be career suicide.

Krivit's description of the NASA fiasco is accurate as far as I know. I
have heard it was even worse. That is why I cannot understand why people
say Rossi a smooth operator. People say he may be swindling people by
making them think he has something he does not have. He may be a confidence
man, in short. Believe me he does *nothing* to convince people he is
legitimate. He does nothing to inspire confidence or assuage people's
anxiety. Time after time he does the extreme opposite! He would make any
sensible person run for the exit. As I said here, it is as if he meets
people at the door naked, waving a shotgun.

By the way, I do not mean he actually does that!! That's metaphorical. I
have known some inventors were nearly that bad, such as the late Stanley
Meyer. He became enraged and threw bottles at people who looked too closely
at his devices.

Perhaps Rossi's extreme behavior is an act. Perhaps when you deal with
Rossi one-on-one privately, and he wants to make a deal, he acts sensibly.
After all, he is a successful businessman. He made a lot of money in the
past. He is no fool. Many people in business cultivate a flamboyant public
persona. Steve Jobs, for example. They want people to think they are
unreasonable, or downright fanatical bad boys. That puts others at a
disadvantage when negotiations start, especially when you have a good a
product they want, and you hold all the cards. When you act reasonably,
they breathe a sigh of relief and sign off on any conditions you propose,
hoping to settle the deal while you remain in a rational state.

- Jed