RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-09 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axil,

 

Stay on point.

 

Who would be held responsible for bringing Russia down? Whose fault is it?

 

Putin or Rossi?

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

svjart.orionworks.com 

 



RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-09 Thread Mike Carrell
The game changer is not Rossi but Black Light Power’s SunCell technology which 
is now taking shape. Readers of Vo have been put off by seemingly wild 
exaggerations in BLP’s press release and a studied reluctance to understand BLP 
because the technology is so different from ’cold fusion’ or CMNS. The key 
reaction is inherently explosive in nature, with water as the ultimate 
consumable. The device under development creates brilliant light with a 
sun-like spectrum and an intensity far greater that the sun as seen at earth’s 
surface. This light is to be captured by high efficiency PV [solar cells]. The 
steps in this chain, using conventional solar cells to drive an LED array, is 
viewable in video clips n the website and on YouTube. Intensive work is 
underway to design a utility-scale power module whose configuration can be seen 
on the BLP website. Technical papers describing the chemistry, and reports by 
competent validators are also on the website.

 

Putin’s effort to dominate  Europe and China by the energy resources of Russia 
will be nullified by the BLP SunCell  technology which will undermine  
political and economic institutions based on the control of energy. SunCell is 
basically cheap, and water is everywhere. Nations and Humanity will flourish.

Mike Carrell

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 11:46 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot-heat-wave-prompts-power-cuts-064032820.html

 

Indians riot as heat wave prompts power cuts

 

Energy is more important than food in a warming world. The man who provides 
power, provides water, and food, and comfort from the heat and cold.

 

The man who provides power, enables life. Putin wants to be that man. Putin 
wants to control this energy weapon.

 

On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

From: Axil Axil

 

...

 

 There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ...

 

Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a 
Russian bare before it has been killed.

 

 ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations. 

 

IMHO

 

It would not be anymore Rossi's fault - not anymore than if he was in the 
business of manufacturing assault rifles and bullets, and some deranged lunatic 
decided to express his feelings by culling a populated shopping mall of half 
its paying customers with the gun and bullets Rossi is hypothetically 
responsible for having manufactured. After all the hand-wringing and 
recriminations have been delivered, after the last WHY DID THIS 
HAPPEN...AGAIN!!! is delivered by enraged and bereaved relatives, after 
perhaps some time later when a tiny iota of legislative sanity is finally 
restored within the United States and decent gun control laws are passed, in 
the end it will still remain, it will always remain the fault of the individual 
responsible for shooting the weapon, not the manufacturer of the weapon used or 
the bullets used.

 

Likewise, if Putin gets his way and invests the bulk of his country's pension 
fund in Gazprom, and should Rossi's eCats (or some illegitimate progeny, like 
BLP) come to fruition, the blame will go squarely on the shoulders of Putin, 
not Rossi. If another revolution roils Russia back into the 17th century, the 
likes of which haven't been experienced since Dr. Zhivago; as disenfranchised 
peasants drag Putin out into the people's public square some fine below zero 
February winter day for an appointed meeting with a firing squad consisting of 
volunteers formally employed by KGB, the last words Putin is likely to hear 
are, You little дерьмо,why didn't you invest in eCAT?

 

Axil, perhaps I have misunderstood the initial intent of your speculation. 
Perhaps you were just trying to be glib or sarcastic. (Sarcasm - I can 
understand and appreciate.) The point is I don't know if you really DO believe 
and stand by what you have stated here. With nothing to go on, all I can say is 
that such speculation astonishes me to no end. It strikes me as misplaced logic 
on a grand scale. Expressed conclusions such as these wouldn't bother me so 
much - except for the fact that I have found myself wondering if it is the norm 
rather than an aberration, particularly within my country, the United States. 
(Please understand, I realize you are not a United States citizen, or please 
correct me if I am mistaken on that matter.) What concerns me is that if such 
misplaced logic is more the norm, perhaps it might help explain why better gun 
control in the United States never seems to get passed. The fickle finger of 
blame never stops wagging. The finger never get pinned down.

 

I hope you will set me straight and inform me of the fact that I had simply not 
perceived the sarcasm in your statement.

 

/IMHO

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson


Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-09 Thread James Bowery
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:

 The game changer is not Rossi but Black Light Power’s SunCell technology
 which is now taking shape. Readers of Vo have been put off by seemingly
 wild exaggerations in BLP’s press release


I wasn't put off by wild exaggerations.

I was put off by the in ability to understand somethings so basic as
physical dimensionality and the difference between input and output.


Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-09 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Well, the great about BLP is that they make Rossi look credible.


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:

 The game changer is not Rossi but Black Light Power’s SunCell technology
 which is now taking shape. Readers of Vo have been put off by seemingly
 wild exaggerations in BLP’s press release and a studied reluctance to
 understand BLP because the technology is so different from ’cold fusion’ or
 CMNS. The key reaction is inherently explosive in nature, with water as the
 ultimate consumable. The device under development creates brilliant light
 with a sun-like spectrum and an intensity far greater that the sun as seen
 at earth’s surface. This light is to be captured by high efficiency PV
 [solar cells]. The steps in this chain, using conventional solar cells to
 drive an LED array, is viewable in video clips n the website and on
 YouTube. Intensive work is underway to design a utility-scale power module
 whose configuration can be seen on the BLP website. Technical papers
 describing the chemistry, and reports by competent validators are also on
 the website.



 Putin’s effort to dominate  Europe and China by the energy resources of
 Russia will be nullified by the BLP SunCell  technology which will
 undermine  political and economic institutions based on the control of
 energy. SunCell is basically cheap, and water is everywhere. Nations and
 Humanity will flourish.

 Mike Carrell



 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 08, 2014 11:46 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.




 http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot-heat-wave-prompts-power-cuts-064032820.html



 Indians riot as heat wave prompts power cuts



 Energy is more important than food in a warming world. The man who
 provides power, provides water, and food, and comfort from the heat and
 cold.



 The man who provides power, enables life. Putin wants to be that man.
 Putin wants to control this energy weapon.



 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
 orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

 From: Axil Axil



 ...



  There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ...



 Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a
 Russian bare before it has been killed.



  ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.



 IMHO



 It would not be anymore Rossi's fault - not anymore than if he was in the
 business of manufacturing assault rifles and bullets, and some deranged
 lunatic decided to express his feelings by culling a populated shopping
 mall of half its paying customers with the gun and bullets Rossi is
 hypothetically responsible for having manufactured. After all the
 hand-wringing and recriminations have been delivered, after the last WHY
 DID THIS HAPPEN...AGAIN!!! is delivered by enraged and bereaved relatives,
 after perhaps some time later when a tiny iota of legislative sanity is
 finally restored within the United States and decent gun control laws are
 passed, in the end it will still remain, it will always remain the fault of
 the individual responsible for shooting the weapon, not the manufacturer of
 the weapon used or the bullets used.



 Likewise, if Putin gets his way and invests the bulk of his country's
 pension fund in Gazprom, and should Rossi's eCats (or some illegitimate
 progeny, like BLP) come to fruition, the blame will go squarely on the
 shoulders of Putin, not Rossi. If another revolution roils Russia back into
 the 17th century, the likes of which haven't been experienced since Dr.
 Zhivago; as disenfranchised peasants drag Putin out into the people's
 public square some fine below zero February winter day for an appointed
 meeting with a firing squad consisting of volunteers formally employed by
 KGB, the last words Putin is likely to hear are, You little дерьмо,why
 didn't you invest in eCAT?



 Axil, perhaps I have misunderstood the initial intent of your speculation.
 Perhaps you were just trying to be glib or sarcastic. (Sarcasm - I can
 understand and appreciate.) The point is I don't know if you really DO
 believe and stand by what you have stated here. With nothing to go on, all
 I can say is that such speculation astonishes me to no end. It strikes me
 as misplaced logic on a grand scale. Expressed conclusions such as these
 wouldn't bother me so much - except for the fact that I have found myself
 wondering if it is the norm rather than an aberration, particularly within
 my country, the United States. (Please understand, I realize you are not a
 United States citizen, or please correct me if I am mistaken on that
 matter.) What concerns me is that if such misplaced logic is more the norm,
 perhaps it might help explain why better gun control in the United States
 never seems to get passed. The fickle finger of blame never stops wagging.
 The finger never get pinned down.



 I hope you will set me 

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I suppose that will be so.  Disruptive technology will often be seen as the
destroyer of the status quo technology.  When a nation banks on the status
quo and such a disruption occurs, that nation gets destroyed.  There are
several examples in history, such as those dealing with the business end of
gun powder explosives which today you can simply buy over the internet as
ammunition.

The indigenous populations of the Americas and Australia didn't quite
appreciate the subtle points of the civilization argument when they were
being hunted down.

Gazprom isn't the only entity threatened.  Exxon, Standard Oil,Mobile,
Shell, Gulf, etc.


But these guys have money and they know what business they are in:  Energy
Production.  So it will only be a matter of time before they negotiate a
deal with IH  Rossi for the production of energy, which they PURCHASE.

In  my view, ALL of these guys will need Stirling Cycle Engine technology,
such as CYPW Cyclone Power which has been starved for RD funds until this
date.  That's one of the reasons why I decided to buy CYPW stock, which is
looking increasingly ugly of late.



On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://news.yahoo.com/big-risks-seen-putins-idea-beef-gazprom-140852799--sector.html

 *Big risks seen in Putin's idea to beef up Gazprom*

 Putin wants to dump much of the Russian pension funds into Gazprom, a
 company often referred to as Russia's national heritage.

 When the E-Cat puts Gazprom out of business, Putin will be extremely
 pissed. And the old people in Russia will get mighty hungry.

 There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state and its all
 Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.



Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread a.ashfield

Axil,
It will take a longer than you suppose for LENR to take over. There will 
be a market for gas for decades yet.


Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:


 It will take a longer than you suppose for LENR to take over.  There will
 be a market for gas for decades yet.


But it will be in a steep decline, with producers desperate to sell of
their inventory. It took a long while for automobiles and airplanes to wipe
out passenger train service. That happened from around 1920 to 1965. But
the industry was in decline the whole time, with intermittent crises. In
the 1930s the government had to take over the railroad pension system. In
the end the Pennsylvania Railroad, went bankrupt. In 1900 that had been
largest, most politically powerful corporation on earth. That power availed
them nothing once the technology became obsolete.

Ocean liner service declined more rapidly from 1945 to 1960. Like the
passenger railroads, this was not an industry you would want to invest in,
or work for. It was a fiscal disaster. All conventional energy sources such
as oil, coal, wind and nuclear power will lose value the moment people
realize cold fusion is real. Within a few years the stocks of the companies
will be worth nothing. Wind and solar will be gone. The others will lose
money for a generation as they gradually wither away. This has been the
pattern with obsolete technology in the past. There is no reason to think
it will not repeat in this case.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make
the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially.

-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make
 the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137



Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. But I think those guys would
be safe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_shelter#Use




2014-06-08 16:19 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:

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Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs.

 The movie was released in 1959.  The H-Bomb was released in 1952.


Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Daniel Rocha
He, I read 1951!


2014-06-08 16:49 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com:




 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs.

 The movie was released in 1959.  The H-Bomb was released in 1952.




-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From: Axil Axil

 

...

 

 There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ...

 

Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a 
Russian bare before it has been killed.

 

 ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations. 

 

IMHO

 

It would not be anymore Rossi's fault - not anymore than if he was in the 
business of manufacturing assault rifles and bullets, and some deranged lunatic 
decided to express his feelings by culling a populated shopping mall of half 
its paying customers with the gun and bullets Rossi is hypothetically 
responsible for having manufactured. After all the hand-wringing and 
recriminations have been delivered, after the last WHY DID THIS 
HAPPEN...AGAIN!!! is delivered by enraged and bereaved relatives, after 
perhaps some time later when a tiny iota of legislative sanity is finally 
restored within the United States and decent gun control laws are passed, in 
the end it will still remain, it will always remain the fault of the individual 
responsible for shooting the weapon, not the manufacturer of the weapon used or 
the bullets used.

 

Likewise, if Putin gets his way and invests the bulk of his country's pension 
fund in Gazprom, and should Rossi's eCats (or some illegitimate progeny, like 
BLP) come to fruition, the blame will go squarely on the shoulders of Putin, 
not Rossi. If another revolution roils Russia back into the 17th century, the 
likes of which haven't been experienced since Dr. Zhivago; as disenfranchised 
peasants drag Putin out into the people's public square some fine below zero 
February winter day for an appointed meeting with a firing squad consisting of 
volunteers formally employed by KGB, the last words Putin is likely to hear 
are, You little дерьмо,why didn't you invest in eCAT?

 

Axil, perhaps I have misunderstood the initial intent of your speculation. 
Perhaps you were just trying to be glib or sarcastic. (Sarcasm - I can 
understand and appreciate.) The point is I don't know if you really DO believe 
and stand by what you have stated here. With nothing to go on, all I can say is 
that such speculation astonishes me to no end. It strikes me as misplaced logic 
on a grand scale. Expressed conclusions such as these wouldn't bother me so 
much - except for the fact that I have found myself wondering if it is the norm 
rather than an aberration, particularly within my country, the United States. 
(Please understand, I realize you are not a United States citizen, or please 
correct me if I am mistaken on that matter.) What concerns me is that if such 
misplaced logic is more the norm, perhaps it might help explain why better gun 
control in the United States never seems to get passed. The fickle finger of 
blame never stops wagging. The finger never get pinned down.

 

I hope you will set me straight and inform me of the fact that I had simply not 
perceived the sarcasm in your statement.

 

/IMHO

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

svjart.orionworks.com



RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
That's a Russian bear, not bare.

 

I should point my fickle finger of blame squarely at spellchecker,

 

But in this case it would be passing the buck. 

 

I just didn't see my misspelling.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

svjart.orionworks.com



Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread James Bowery
Cold fusion, assuming it really does work with commonly found elements in
country rock, changes the foundation of human eusociality:  the campfire.

I can easily imagine cultures developing in which the primary objective of
a young man's secondary school education is to teach him to fabricate cold
fusion fire from resources in his natural environment.


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://news.yahoo.com/big-risks-seen-putins-idea-beef-gazprom-140852799--sector.html

 *Big risks seen in Putin's idea to beef up Gazprom*

 Putin wants to dump much of the Russian pension funds into Gazprom, a
 company often referred to as Russia's national heritage.

 When the E-Cat puts Gazprom out of business, Putin will be extremely
 pissed. And the old people in Russia will get mighty hungry.

 There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state and its all
 Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.



Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

2014-06-08 Thread Axil Axil
http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot-heat-wave-prompts-power-cuts-064032820.html

Indians riot as heat wave prompts power cuts

Energy is more important than food in a warming world. The man who provides
power, provides water, and food, and comfort from the heat and cold.

The man who provides power, enables life. Putin wants to be that man. Putin
wants to control this energy weapon.


On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

  From: Axil Axil



 ...



  There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ...



 Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a
 Russian bare before it has been killed.



  ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.



 IMHO



 It would not be anymore Rossi's fault - not anymore than if he was in the
 business of manufacturing assault rifles and bullets, and some deranged
 lunatic decided to express his feelings by culling a populated shopping
 mall of half its paying customers with the gun and bullets Rossi is
 hypothetically responsible for having manufactured. After all the
 hand-wringing and recriminations have been delivered, after the last WHY
 DID THIS HAPPEN...AGAIN!!! is delivered by enraged and bereaved relatives,
 after perhaps some time later when a tiny iota of legislative sanity is
 finally restored within the United States and decent gun control laws are
 passed, in the end it will still remain, it will always remain the fault of
 the individual responsible for shooting the weapon, not the manufacturer of
 the weapon used or the bullets used.



 Likewise, if Putin gets his way and invests the bulk of his country's
 pension fund in Gazprom, and should Rossi's eCats (or some illegitimate
 progeny, like BLP) come to fruition, the blame will go squarely on the
 shoulders of Putin, not Rossi. If another revolution roils Russia back into
 the 17th century, the likes of which haven't been experienced since Dr.
 Zhivago; as disenfranchised peasants drag Putin out into the people's
 public square some fine below zero February winter day for an appointed
 meeting with a firing squad consisting of volunteers formally employed by
 KGB, the last words Putin is likely to hear are, You little дерьмо,why
 didn't you invest in eCAT?



 Axil, perhaps I have misunderstood the initial intent of your speculation.
 Perhaps you were just trying to be glib or sarcastic. (Sarcasm - I can
 understand and appreciate.) The point is I don't know if you really DO
 believe and stand by what you have stated here. With nothing to go on, all
 I can say is that such speculation astonishes me to no end. It strikes me
 as misplaced logic on a grand scale. Expressed conclusions such as these
 wouldn't bother me so much - except for the fact that I have found myself
 wondering if it is the norm rather than an aberration, particularly within
 my country, the United States. (Please understand, I realize you are not a
 United States citizen, or please correct me if I am mistaken on that
 matter.) What concerns me is that if such misplaced logic is more the norm,
 perhaps it might help explain why better gun control in the United States
 never seems to get passed. The fickle finger of blame never stops wagging.
 The finger never get pinned down.



 I hope you will set me straight and inform me of the fact that I had
 simply not perceived the sarcasm in your statement.



 /IMHO



 Regards,

 Steven Vincent Johnson

 svjart.orionworks.com