[vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
Whenever I visit a site using IE or Mozilla under Windows, I notice some sites can change the icons that appear on the URL. Everything2.org, for example. Does anyone know how to set this? I don't see anything in the stylesheet, as far as I can see I don't see anything obvious in the source... (though it's gotta be in the source *somewhere*!.) -Mark -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:34:45AM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: Whenever I visit a site using IE or Mozilla under Windows, I notice some sites can change the icons that appear on the URL. Everything2.org, for example. Does anyone know how to set this? I don't see anything in the stylesheet, as far as I can see I don't see anything obvious in the source... (though it's gotta be in the source *somewhere*!.) Nope. *brrzt!* Wrong! You need to throw a favicon.ico file in the root of your domain. (You CAN override/change it via HTML for particular files... I don't know the syntax offhand.) A .ico is, of course, a MICROS~1 WINDOWS icon file. Getting one that works just right can be a little tricky. I use some NetPBM tool or something to tweak mine. (It's been a while. BillsGames.com, LUGOD.org and NewBreedSoftware.com all have their own icons. The latter two are ones I whipped up in The GIMP and then converted.) Konqueror supports icons, too. It's actually kind of a nice feature. Gives extra feedback when browsing a list of URLs in history/pulldowns/etc., as well as when looking at your taskbar. (The program with the /. icon is Konqueror visiting some page on Slashdot. The one with the penguin is a LUGOD.org page. And so forth) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
Those web browsers try to fetch a file called favicon.ico when they first visit a site. If they find it, they use it as the URL bar icon and bookmark icon. The file should be in the standard windows .ico format. I'm not sure if this is a standard or not, but most web browsers have picked this up now (not just the windows ones). Matt On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:34:45AM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: Whenever I visit a site using IE or Mozilla under Windows, I notice some sites can change the icons that appear on the URL. Everything2.org, for example. Does anyone know how to set this? I don't see anything in the stylesheet, as far as I can see I don't see anything obvious in the source... (though it's gotta be in the source *somewhere*!.) -Mark -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- * * Matt Roper [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * http://www.mattrope.com * * PGP Key: http://www.mattrope.com/mattrope.asc * * ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:26:35PM -0700, David Margolis wrote: so what tools can be used to create this ico? can you just create a 16x16 gif and convert it with something? Like I said, it's been a while. I believe KDE comes with an editor or converter or something. I also think there's a NetPBM-style tool available, too, so you can do something like: giftopnm icon.gif | _something_ favicon.ico I forget what the _something_ part is. ;) I can check when I get home, if you'd like. I'm fairly sure I've got that stuff installed there. (Debian/Woody w/ KDE) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
This is from a Windows IE perspective but does have the relevant ico graphic file size details. http://www.thesitewizard.com/archive/favicon.shtml -sp On Mon, 10 June 2002, Matt Roper wrote Those web browsers try to fetch a file called favicon.ico when they first visit a site. If they find it, they use it as the URL bar icon and bookmark icon. The file should be in the standard windows .ico format. I'm not sure if this is a standard or not, but most web browsers have picked this up now (not just the windows ones). Matt On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:34:45AM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: Whenever I visit a site using IE or Mozilla under Windows, I notice some sites can change the icons that appear on the URL. Everything2.org, for example. Does anyone know how to set this? I don't see anything in the stylesheet, as far as I can see I don't see anything obvious in the source... (though it's gotta be in the source *somewhere*!.) -Mark ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, nbs wrote: You need to throw a favicon.ico file in the root of your domain. (You CAN override/change it via HTML for particular files... I don't know the syntax offhand.) I see... A .ico is, of course, a MICROS~1 WINDOWS icon file. Getting one that works just right can be a little tricky. I use some NetPBM tool or something to tweak mine. (It's been a while. BillsGames.com, LUGOD.org and NewBreedSoftware.com all have their own icons. The latter two are ones I whipped up in The GIMP and then converted.) Err... sorry to break it to you, Bill, but I don't see any icons under IE or Mozilla in Windows (I tried BillsGames.com, LUGOD.org, and NewBreedSoftware.com.) I noticed a couple weeks ago when I was fiddling with an ICO editor program on Windows that Windows' ICO file contains several bitmaps for different colors and sizes (IIRC, 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, BW, 16 colors, 256 colors, in combinations)... kind of like Macintosh. From Steven's article, it sounds like you need 16x16 size icons at 16 colors, and perhaps the ones on the above three sites are of wrong colors or sizes? The editor I used is PC Magazine's IconEdit32 from Download.com. That's IconEdit32 with 32 at the end, not the version without: http://download.com.com/3000-2195-5929957.html?tag=lst-0-2 (Needs Windows to run... maybe WINE will work with it?) -Mark -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 01:27:43PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: I noticed a couple weeks ago when I was fiddling with an ICO editor program on Windows that Windows' ICO file contains several bitmaps for different colors and sizes (IIRC, 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, BW, 16 colors, 256 colors, in combinations)... kind of like Macintosh. From Steven's article, it sounds like you need 16x16 size icons at 16 colors, and perhaps the ones on the above three sites are of wrong colors or sizes? Ugh. Well, screw IE (unless someone can fix and test the icons for me). I don't have Windows, and therefore don't have access to IE. (THANK GOD!) The icons work perfectly under Konqueror. :) Perhaps an upgrade from Win/IE to Linux/Konq is what everyone in the world needs? :) Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) The editor I used is PC Magazine's IconEdit32 from Download.com. That's IconEdit32 with 32 at the end, not the version without: http://download.com.com/3000-2195-5929957.html?tag=lst-0-2 (Needs Windows to run... maybe WINE will work with it?) Bleh. I don't even have WINE. I'm 99.9% Microsoft free. (I have their free TrueType fonts installed :^) I do NOT have any MS mice or keyboards, even) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) Mozilla does support icons (works with redhat.com, newegg.com, and others), but I don't see them on lugod.org, billsgames.com, or newbreedsoftware.com. I'm using a debug-free version of Mozilla 1.0_rc1 under Linux, so it's possible that the official release of 1.0 behaves differently. Matt ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
I tried with Mozilla 1.0 and IE55. No icon's Mozilla appears to have added support in release 0.9.6 http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla0.9.6/#new and here is more info http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/Author/dhtml/howto/ShortcutIcon.asp But as MS site's often break on non-MS browser's, the relavant section is below. NOTE: If you use this, you can count file requests or this ico in your web server log to see how many people bookmark your site. :/ Create the Correct Size Icon For Internet Explorer 5, the required size of a shortcut icon is 16x16 pixels. To create the icon, use an icon editor, such as the one included in Microsoft Visual Studio® or one of the many other icon editors available. Regardless of the program you use, make sure you set the editor to create an icon that is 16x16 pixels. Otherwise, the icon will be ignored by Internet Explorer. Associate the Icon with Your Web Page After creating the icon, you must associate it with your Web page. One way is to save the icon with the default file name of favicon.ico in the root directory of your domainfor example, www.microsoft.com/favicon.ico. Each time your Web page is added to a user's favorites, Internet Explorer automatically searches for this file and places the icon next to all the favorites and quick links originating from your site. You can also associate the icon with your Web page by saving the icon with a file name other than favicon.ico and adding a line of HTML code in the head section of your Web document. The line of code includes a link tag that specifies the location and name of the file. You can include this link tag on a per-page basis. HEAD LINK REL=SHORTCUT ICON HREF=http://www.mydomain.com/myicon.ico; TITLEMy Title/TITLE /HEAD On Mon, 10 June 2002, Matt Holland wrote Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) Mozilla does support icons (works with redhat.com, newegg.com, and others), but I don't see them on lugod.org, billsgames.com, or newbreedsoftware.com. I'm using a debug-free version of Mozilla 1.0_rc1 under Linux, so it's possible that the official release of 1.0 behaves differently. Matt ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
stephen, label this under i think... i think KDE on debian is in the form of an apt-gettable site run by kde. i don't think you'll find kde stuff directly on debian. anything kde releases for rh is also released in .deb format too. pete begin Stephen M. Helms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Holland wrote: Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) Mozilla does support icons (works with redhat.com, newegg.com, and others), but I don't see them on lugod.org, billsgames.com, or newbreedsoftware.com. I'm using a debug-free version of Mozilla 1.0_rc1 under Linux, so it's possible that the official release of 1.0 behaves differently. Matt redhat.com, newegg.com both work for me as well as /. and freshmeat.net. Debian.org does not seem to have one :( here's my text version @. I have Kiconedit from KDE 2.2 on my system and it looks like it supports .ico files. Stephen P.S. Poll: who will up early tomorrow to get there copy of Neverwinter Nights? ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Monday 10 June 2002 02:20 pm, Stephen M. Helms wrote: ... I have Kiconedit from KDE 2.2 on my system and it looks like it supports .ico files. Hey you're right. I just made a favicon.ico with it and put it in the docroot for sunsetsystems.com. It shows up with Konqueror but not Mozilla. Now I just need a bit of artistic talent. ;-) -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
The lugod.org tux graphic worked for me in IE 6 for win98, along with Mozilla 1.0 under linux. I'm gonna go make some for myself. Just to add to the discussion, I just got irfanview (recommended in the article someone else here mentioned) running under win4lin). It converts gifs to icos. d. On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Matt Holland wrote: Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) Mozilla does support icons (works with redhat.com, newegg.com, and others), but I don't see them on lugod.org, billsgames.com, or newbreedsoftware.com. I'm using a debug-free version of Mozilla 1.0_rc1 under Linux, so it's possible that the official release of 1.0 behaves differently. Matt ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
Rod Roark wrote: On Monday 10 June 2002 02:20 pm, Stephen M. Helms wrote: ... I have Kiconedit from KDE 2.2 on my system and it looks like it supports .ico files. Hey you're right. I just made a favicon.ico with it and put it in the docroot for sunsetsystems.com. It shows up with Konqueror but not Mozilla. Now I just need a bit of artistic talent. ;-) -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech Rod, I think it is a nice looking icon. This is just plain wierd. I am finding some of the icons work on mozilla and not on Kongqueror and vice versa. There must be more to this. Stephen ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: stephen, label this under i think... i think KDE on debian is in the form of an apt-gettable site run by kde. i don't think you'll find kde stuff directly on debian. anything kde releases for rh is also released in .deb format too. I installed KDE off the April Woody beta i386 binaries cd set on a laptop that had no network access. From apt-cache dumpavail: Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 48 Maintainer: Debian QA Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Source: meta-kde Version: 4:2.2.25 Depends: kdelibs3, libarts | libarts-alsa | libarts-bin, libkmid | libkmid-alsa | libkmid-bin, kdebase | kdebase3, kdebase-audiolibs | kdeb ase3-audiolibs, kdebase-libs | kdebase3-libs, libkonq3 | libkonq4, konqueror | konqueror3, kate | kate3, konsole | konsole3, kdebase-doc | kdebase3-doc, kscreensaver | kscreensaver3, kdewallpapers | kdewallpapers3, kuser, ksysv, kcron, kpackage, secpolicy, kghostview, kview, km ail, korn, ark, kab, karm, kcalc, kcharselect, kdepasswd, kdf, kedit, kfind, khexedit, kjots, knotes, kpm, kpaint, kiconedit, kfract, ksnap shot, kruler, kdict, kdm | x-display-manager, kit, knode, ksirc, koffice, knewsticker, ktimer, kcoloredit Suggests: aktion, kde-i18n, kde-games, kde-extras, kde-devel, anti-aliasing-howto, kdessh, artsbuilder | artsbuilder3, kmix | kmix3, kscd | kscd3, noatun | noatun3, libarts-mpeglib | libarts3-mpeglib, korganizer, kdepim-libs Filename: pool/main/m/meta-kde/kde_2.2.25_all.deb Size: 7232 MD5sum: 4029e970ffd3e6f06946c91000afb856 Description: The K Desktop Environment A metapackage containing dependencies for the core suite of KDE including kdelibs, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, koffice, and kdeutils. Provides Suggests and Recommends for all other KDE based packages. . Does not contain depends for Toys, Games, or Development packages. Task: desktop pete begin Stephen M. Helms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Holland wrote: Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) Mozilla does support icons (works with redhat.com, newegg.com, and others), but I don't see them on lugod.org, billsgames.com, or newbreedsoftware.com. I'm using a debug-free version of Mozilla 1.0_rc1 under Linux, so it's possible that the official release of 1.0 behaves differently. Matt redhat.com, newegg.com both work for me as well as /. and freshmeat.net. Debian.org does not seem to have one :( here's my text version @. I have Kiconedit from KDE 2.2 on my system and it looks like it supports .ico files. Stephen P.S. Poll: who will up early tomorrow to get there copy of Neverwinter Nights? ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...2k --- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Woody NVIDIA X Setup
I have had Debian installed two times and have not yet been able too get X working right. I found a mini how to but have not tried it out yet. At http://games.luv.asn.au/lsd/nvidia-mini-howto.html Any help would be appreciated. I have decided to move over to Debian after working with SuSE up till 8.0 They took out YAST and now you have to use YAST2 and I don't like it. If I have to change over I wanted too move to Debian :-) Rusty ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Woody NVIDIA X Setup
rusty -- which are you having difficulty with: normal 2D or accelerated 3D? pete begin Rusty Minden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have had Debian installed two times and have not yet been able too get X working right. I found a mini how to but have not tried it out yet. At http://games.luv.asn.au/lsd/nvidia-mini-howto.html Any help would be appreciated. I have decided to move over to Debian after working with SuSE up till 8.0 They took out YAST and now you have to use YAST2 and I don't like it. If I have to change over I wanted too move to Debian :-) Rusty ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Woody NVIDIA X Setup
I have not been able too get either working. I have tried to use xf86config and xf86cfg. I have always had trouble with X and this was supposed too be a learning experience for me (and it has, but it is getting a bit frustrating). I have figured out that I had to change /etc/apt/sources.list over to woody to get updates and load packages. That really threw me for a loop, but no luck yet with X. I was thinking about getting my settings from SuSE and trying them, but have not yet. Rusty On Monday 10 June 2002 08:20 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: rusty -- which are you having difficulty with: normal 2D or accelerated 3D? pete begin Rusty Minden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have had Debian installed two times and have not yet been able too get X working right. I found a mini how to but have not tried it out yet. At http://games.luv.asn.au/lsd/nvidia-mini-howto.html Any help would be appreciated. I have decided to move over to Debian after working with SuSE up till 8.0 They took out YAST and now you have to use YAST2 and I don't like it. If I have to change over I wanted too move to Debian :-) Rusty ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
This is very weird. I checked out the files from everything2.org, slashdot.org, lugod.org, billsgames.com, and newbreedsoftware.com and compared them. The first two works on IE and Mozilla 1.0 under Windows, but the rest don't. After checking out the files using IconEdit32, I notice no difference (except Everything2.org's file uses 16x16x256 icon.) Maybe the link tag is required? The other sites have the link tags (which I didn't notice before 'cuz I didn't look for .ico...) -Mark On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, nbs wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 01:27:43PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: I noticed a couple weeks ago when I was fiddling with an ICO editor program on Windows that Windows' ICO file contains several bitmaps for different colors and sizes (IIRC, 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, BW, 16 colors, 256 colors, in combinations)... kind of like Macintosh. From Steven's article, it sounds like you need 16x16 size icons at 16 colors, and perhaps the ones on the above three sites are of wrong colors or sizes? Ugh. Well, screw IE (unless someone can fix and test the icons for me). I don't have Windows, and therefore don't have access to IE. (THANK GOD!) The icons work perfectly under Konqueror. :) Perhaps an upgrade from Win/IE to Linux/Konq is what everyone in the world needs? :) Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) The editor I used is PC Magazine's IconEdit32 from Download.com. That's IconEdit32 with 32 at the end, not the version without: http://download.com.com/3000-2195-5929957.html?tag=lst-0-2 (Needs Windows to run... maybe WINE will work with it?) Bleh. I don't even have WINE. I'm 99.9% Microsoft free. (I have their free TrueType fonts installed :^) I do NOT have any MS mice or keyboards, even) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available upon request. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
