Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
Ken, Short answer: dhcp server, available. ... actually the main motivation for the mirror is really so that missing stuff can be installed at a moments notice. TTFN, Mike ps: Well at I'm glad to see the patent for a network device which facilitates installation of Linux across a network will be easy to challenge... == On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:57:37AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...talking about installfests...] I also got irritated at the lack of network access at the Davis location so I've prepared a hard drive mirror of most relevant sites and plan to bring that to the next one. On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 06:47:24PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (A complete debian/woody/i386 mirror is on it's way to the demo machine right now (the main benefit is if I forgot something we can install it without anytime without a network connection), but there are other perks like at the installfest this machine can act as a network install server, and general purpose archive of semi-current stuff). On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 09:42:28PM -0700, Ken Bloom wrote: Since I'm sure the woody mirror is also intended for Installfests, DHCP would help greatly for that too. On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 10:22:09PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: I suggested a similar idea a while back and Peter volunteered me to setup my laptop has the DHCP server at IFs. I've been to every single one of the IFs with my DHCP-ready laptop ever since... unless I couldn't make it for some reason (translation: done it once.) On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 10:52:49PM -0700, ME wrote: This is what we do at our IF. I bring in my network hardened desktop (from 2 rooms away) and have it dole out IP via DHCP for the local wireless and wired networks. It is very fast (Full 100Mbps ethernet available at full ... sadly the drive I refer to in the first message above is the one that started flaking out on April 1st about 6am, I'm amazed I've still not purchased a replacement drive and backup solution, it is still sitting nearby powered off. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
point of info -- i now have all 8 woody disks as of today. in theory, i can update my ISO painlessly. i haven't tried it yet though. i'll try updating one of them tomorrow, just as a proof of concept. even if i can't update the ISO's the way that jigdo claims i should be able to, i highly recommend using jigdo-lite. it saved me roughly 20 hours *per disk* to download. that's quite savings considering woody is at a whopping 8 disks. yes, 8. and i'm not talking about source CD's either. we're talking just binary. it's 9 disks if you want to include the US version of disk 1. pete begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ken, Short answer: dhcp server, available. ... actually the main motivation for the mirror is really so that missing stuff can be installed at a moments notice. TTFN, Mike ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
- Does anyone have an idea what percentage of machines show up to the installfest with ethernet adapters? On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 12:56:30AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: even if i can't update the ISO's the way that jigdo claims i should be able to, i highly recommend using jigdo-lite. it saved me roughly 20 hours *per disk* to download. that's quite savings considering woody is at a whopping 8 disks. yes, 8. and i'm not talking about source CD's either. we're talking just binary. it's 9 disks if you want to include the US version of disk 1. It will be wonderful having up-to-date CD's at the next installfest, I would recommend waiting to burn your for the installfest set of disks until a few days before though... since woody may be stable by that time. I think there are a number of slight advantages to a local mirror and understanding debian-cd... ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: point of info -- i now have all 8 woody disks as of today. in theory, i can update my ISO painlessly. i haven't tried it yet though. i'll try updating one of them tomorrow, just as a proof of concept. even if i can't update the ISO's the way that jigdo claims i should be able to, i highly recommend using jigdo-lite. it saved me roughly 20 hours *per disk* to download. that's quite savings considering woody is at a whopping 8 disks. yes, 8. and i'm not talking about source CD's either. we're talking just binary. it's 9 disks if you want to include the US version of disk 1. pete D'oh, that means more than 1 DVD (and we just bought a DVD recorder at work)! I have been wanting to setup my own local debian mirror or apt-proxy. The main purpose is to update the seven or so machines I will have on my home network. What is the needed disk space per port and version? I.e. Woody on x86. I have x86 and ultra sparc and may use both woody and sid on them so I guess I would need to time this by 4 for enough disk space. Also, I could setup my Toshiba Libretto 50CT (with 6GB hard drive) for using at installfests of demo's. It could be setup with at least the core of woody for that. Stephen ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 08:57:24AM -0700, Stephen M. Helms wrote: What is the needed disk space per port and version? I.e. Woody on x86. Intel will be the largest in overall size... because it has the most packages. The following is Woody on Intel... broken up into the key data chunks, this is binary only. All is woody, don't exclude potato directory here. root@star:/home/debian/mirror# du -sk dists/* non-US/* pool . 88916 dists/potato 6304dists/woody 240 non-US/dists 154316 non-US/pool 12 non-US/project 4325912 pool 4575724 . Also, I could setup my Toshiba Libretto 50CT (with 6GB hard drive) for using at installfests of demo's. It could be setup with at least the core of woody for that. Current woody will certainly fit. I haven't done analysis of the file set but I would imagine you could toss out about 1 Gig of very large and useless things (like old kernel packages and kernel source) pretty easy. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
People interested showing at the demo or who have some favorite pet
applications should speak-up now with what other applications should
be installed.
from an applicable legal disclaimer I've seen recently (quantum.com)
This file contains certain forward-looking statements. Actual results may
differ materially from the forward-looking statements contained herein.
Contents:
- Overview.
- Installed Debian package list. *
- Pruned kernel config.*
*: I was going to include the last two but that increases the size of the
message by about 70k, so I'll probably just send it to Bill and post
the URL.
Overview
Major installed packages include:
- X11 4.1, Gnome, KDE,
- Abiword, Gnumeric, Koffice, Openoffice,
- Mozilla, Konqueror, lynx, links
- Most of the development tool chain:
C, C++, Perl, Python,
- Many games:
nethack, tuxracer, defendguin, gemdropx, etc... ;)
the Loki demo archive... :{
Machine is running kernel 2.4.18, it has the following module
packs: alsa, i2c-sensors, lm-sensors. The kernel and module packs
are compiled into Debian packages in apt-getable /home/debian/local.
There is a local debian mirror of woody in /home/debian/mirror.
The machine is configured to apt-get from it's own mirror. The
mirror is updated every 24 hours via cron.
All three of the major X windows login systems are installed:
gdm, xdm, kdm. They are setup to start at boot on consoles
2, 3, 4. Once the graphics settle the machine should be at the
gdm login banner. Text consoles are running on 1,5-12.
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Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
On Thursday 25 April 2002 13:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People interested showing at the demo or who have some favorite pet applications should speak-up now with what other applications should be installed Just a couple of suggestions: GnuCash Evolution Mozilla 1.0 RC1 (it just keeps getting better!) Mozilla plugins (Flash, Java, audio/video) -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
(This should really be on VOX, but... whatever :^) )
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:03:10PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Overview
Major installed packages include:
- X11 4.1, Gnome, KDE,
- Abiword, Gnumeric, Koffice, Openoffice,
- Mozilla, Konqueror, lynx, links
- Most of the development tool chain:
C, C++, Perl, Python,
- Many games:
nethack, tuxracer, defendguin, gemdropx, etc... ;)
the Loki demo archive... :{
Add to this:
The Gimp ( www.gimp.org )
XMMS ( www.xmms.org )
Some XMMS visualization plug-ins ( )
And, if you have time,
Frozen Bubble ( www.frozen-bubble.org - avail. as .deb )
glTron( www.gltron.org )
FlightGear( www.flightgear.org )
Vectoroids [ ;) ]( www.newbreedsoftware.com/vectoroids/ )
Asteroids 3D ( www.psc.edu/~smp/a3d/ )
XVNC [*] ( www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvnc.html )
And make sure sound is working! :) (If you don't have speakers, you can
always use headphones, ya know!)
[*] It'd be cool to show the Zaurus over VNC at the demos.
I may need a little help getting a network between the systems...
Thanks for your work!
I've updated the Demo Box page:
http://www.lugod.org/projects/demo/computer.php
-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 01:20:52PM -0700, Rod Roark wrote: Just a couple of suggestions: GnuCash Evolution done. Mozilla 1.0 RC1 (it just keeps getting better!) Mozilla plugins (Flash, Java, audio/video) 0.9.9 is packaged and installed. I'll dig around for 1.0 once it's finalized. Java is in. Installed libflash, I find some flash overloaded sites annoying. Dunno what you mean by audio/video. I'll worry about this stuff after the sound card is working. On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 02:04:54PM -0700, nbs wrote: (This should really be on VOX, but... whatever :^) ) true... but I'm not on vox. ;) On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:03:10PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gimp ( www.gimp.org ) XMMS ( www.xmms.org ) Some XMMS visualization plug-ins ( ) XVNC [*] ( www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvnc.html ) And, if you have time, Frozen Bubble ( www.frozen-bubble.org - avail. as .deb ) glTron( www.gltron.org ) FlightGear( www.flightgear.org ) Vectoroids [ ;) ]( www.newbreedsoftware.com/vectoroids/ ) done. Asteroids 3D ( www.psc.edu/~smp/a3d/ ) not packaged, or I'm missing it. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
Mike said: Bill said: The Gimp ( www.gimp.org ) XMMS ( www.xmms.org ) Some XMMS visualization plug-ins ( ) XVNC [*] ( www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvnc.html ) And, if you have time, Frozen Bubble ( www.frozen-bubble.org - avail. as .deb ) glTron( www.gltron.org ) FlightGear( www.flightgear.org ) Vectoroids [ ;) ]( www.newbreedsoftware.com/vectoroids/ ) done. All of them? Cool! Thanks! Asteroids 3D ( www.psc.edu/~smp/a3d/ ) not packaged, or I'm missing it. No prob. I've never actually tried it before, so I don't even know if it's good. LOOKS nifty. There's another cool 3D asteroid game out there, too (not 1st person) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
Also, what servers are installed? (I assume Apache - what's enabled? OpenSSH, too, I'm presume. Anything else?) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 03:14:57PM -0700, nbs wrote: All of them? Cool! Thanks! Yes, it only takes a few seconds to run apt-cache search on the packages you mention (to find their true package names) then do a apt-get install on the list of names. Asteroids 3D ( www.psc.edu/~smp/a3d/ ) not packaged, or I'm missing it. No prob. But when it's not packaged then I'd need to go find the source, figure out how to compile it and junk, which could take an hour for each package. ;) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 06:58:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not packaged, or I'm missing it. No prob. But when it's not packaged then I'd need to go find the source, figure out how to compile it and junk, which could take an hour for each package. ;) No ... I didn't mean It is not a problem for you to install it, lazybones I meant It is not a problem that you didn't bother installing it - it's not NECESSARY :) Anyway, thanks again! Also, I made all app. titles on the Demo Computer page on LUGOD.org links to their various homepages. (Most are www.[name of program].org :) ) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
You probably already have this set up on the computer and just forgot to mention it in
the
overview, but the computer needs to act as a DHCP server at Installfests so we can set
up
computers for DHCP networking and not have to wait for two minutes each time as we
restart
computers repeatedly while we are troubleshooting them.
Since I'm sure the woody mirror is also intended for Installfests, DHCP would help
greatly for
that too.
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Contents:
- Overview.
- Installed Debian package list. *
- Pruned kernel config.*
*: I was going to include the last two but that increases the size of the
message by about 70k, so I'll probably just send it to Bill and post
the URL.
Overview
Major installed packages include:
- X11 4.1, Gnome, KDE,
- Abiword, Gnumeric, Koffice, Openoffice,
- Mozilla, Konqueror, lynx, links
- Most of the development tool chain:
C, C++, Perl, Python,
- Many games:
nethack, tuxracer, defendguin, gemdropx, etc... ;)
the Loki demo archive... :{
Machine is running kernel 2.4.18, it has the following module
packs: alsa, i2c-sensors, lm-sensors. The kernel and module packs
are compiled into Debian packages in apt-getable /home/debian/local.
There is a local debian mirror of woody in /home/debian/mirror.
The machine is configured to apt-get from it's own mirror. The
mirror is updated every 24 hours via cron.
All three of the major X windows login systems are installed:
gdm, xdm, kdm. They are setup to start at boot on consoles
2, 3, 4. Once the graphics settle the machine should be at the
gdm login banner. Text consoles are running on 1,5-12.
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Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
I suggested a similar idea a while back and Peter volunteered me to setup
my laptop has the DHCP server at IFs. I've been to every single one of
the IFs with my DHCP-ready laptop ever since... unless I couldn't make it
for some reason (translation: done it once.)
-Mark
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Ken Bloom wrote:
You probably already have this set up on the computer and just forgot to mention it
in the
overview, but the computer needs to act as a DHCP server at Installfests so we can
set up
computers for DHCP networking and not have to wait for two minutes each time as we
restart
computers repeatedly while we are troubleshooting them.
Since I'm sure the woody mirror is also intended for Installfests, DHCP would help
greatly for
that too.
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:03:10 -0400
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Subject: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
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Contents:
- Overview.
- Installed Debian package list. *
- Pruned kernel config.*
*: I was going to include the last two but that increases the size of the
message by about 70k, so I'll probably just send it to Bill and post
the URL.
Overview
Major installed packages include:
- X11 4.1, Gnome, KDE,
- Abiword, Gnumeric, Koffice, Openoffice,
- Mozilla, Konqueror, lynx, links
- Most of the development tool chain:
C, C++, Perl, Python,
- Many games:
nethack, tuxracer, defendguin, gemdropx, etc... ;)
the Loki demo archive... :{
Machine is running kernel 2.4.18, it has the following module
packs: alsa, i2c-sensors, lm-sensors. The kernel and module packs
are compiled into Debian packages in apt-getable /home/debian/local.
There is a local debian mirror of woody in /home/debian/mirror.
The machine is configured to apt-get from it's own mirror. The
mirror is updated every 24 hours via cron.
All three of the major X windows login systems are installed:
gdm, xdm, kdm. They are setup to start at boot on consoles
2, 3, 4. Once the graphics settle the machine should be at the
gdm login banner. Text consoles are running on 1,5-12.
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