Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Johnston
Thanks to all for trying to help.  I gave up trying to trouble shoot
the problem and reinstalled Lucid.  Since I wasn't in danger of losing
any data, this seemed like a more efficient option.

Thomas



On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Bill Kendrick  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 09:38:45PM -0700, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 and I am no longer able to boot up as
>> normal.  I make it to the login screen without any indication of a
>> problem.  After typing in my user name and password, it continues to
>> boot.
>
> Just to be pedantic (it helps to use the right terminology when
> asking for help, is all), at this point you aren't "booting" any more.
> Once the login screen is up, your computer is completed booted-up.
> At this point, you're logging in to your KDE X-Window session.
>
> (So it's not really a "can't boot", but a "can't login" problem)
>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 09:38:45PM -0700, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 and I am no longer able to boot up as
> normal.  I make it to the login screen without any indication of a
> problem.  After typing in my user name and password, it continues to
> boot.

Just to be pedantic (it helps to use the right terminology when
asking for help, is all), at this point you aren't "booting" any more.
Once the login screen is up, your computer is completed booted-up.
At this point, you're logging in to your KDE X-Window session.

(So it's not really a "can't boot", but a "can't login" problem)

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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Chanoch (Ken) Bloom
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 21:38 -0700, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 and I am no longer able to boot up as
> normal.  I make it to the login screen without any indication of a
> problem.  After typing in my user name and password, it continues to
> boot.  Normally the remaining boot sequence shows several icons
> appearing in the center of the screen; however, after the first icon
> appears the system now hangs.  After several minutes an error message
> pops up reading:
> 
> "The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
> No write access to $HOME directory (/home/thomas).
> KDE is unable to start."

I see you've tried fscking the drive to look for drive errors, but have
you tried looking to see whether an indiscriminate typo caused you to
change permissions on your home directory?

ls -l /home  and see whether you have write permission on /home/thomas
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Chanoch (Ken) Bloom
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:51 -0700, Tony Cratz wrote:
> On 06/13/2010 11:47 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> > after typing fsck /dev/sda1 I get the following:
> > 
> > "WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted.  If you continue you ***WILL***
> > cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
> > Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
> > 
> > so I aborted.
> 
> 
>   umount /dev/sda1
>   fsck /dev/sda1

replace that umount command with

 umount -a
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Chanoch (Ken) Bloom
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:20 -0700, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> update: I tried the failsafeX mode I mentioned in my last email and
> get the following error messages:
> 
> "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode.  The following error was
> encountered.  You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
> (EE) [drm] failed to open device
> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not 
> found)"

Do you get an actual graphics screen when you do that? I think that this
is the expected behavior when running in this mode, and I wouldn't worry
about it.

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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Tony Cratz
On 06/14/2010 02:54 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> I still can't boot normally.  I tried uninstalling (sudo aptitude
> remove nvidia-current) and reinstalling the nvidia drivers.  That
> didn't change anything.  I tried purging nvidia.  That didn't work.  I
> even tried uninstalling and reinstalling xorg to no avail.  In fact,
> the problem is a little worse now.  I can boot to the login screen and
> if I try to login it almost immediately takes me back to the same
> login screen.  The only way to get to a terminal now is to boot into
> recovery mode from GRUB.


Well not being in front of the system I can't say why it is
not working for you. It should have.

At this point it sound like you might need to do a clean
install. You can do it without losing your home directory
(assuming that /home is on it's own partition).

Before you do a fresh install, back up all key data and
configure file.

But you might try to get someone closer to where you live
to work with you on trying to figure out what is wrong before
you do a fresh install.


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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Johnston
I still can't boot normally.  I tried uninstalling (sudo aptitude
remove nvidia-current) and reinstalling the nvidia drivers.  That
didn't change anything.  I tried purging nvidia.  That didn't work.  I
even tried uninstalling and reinstalling xorg to no avail.  In fact,
the problem is a little worse now.  I can boot to the login screen and
if I try to login it almost immediately takes me back to the same
login screen.  The only way to get to a terminal now is to boot into
recovery mode from GRUB.

thomas

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
> On 06/14/2010 12:20 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>> I noticed in yesterday's instructions to Hai someone mentioned using a
>> Live CD.  I downloaded and burned Lucid 64 bit from Kubuntu.org and
>> booted from the Live CD.  I opened konsole and typed:
>>
>> sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 and it gives the following:
>> 430625  inodes used (2.94%)
>> 615 non-contiguous files (0.1%)
>> 452 non-contiguous directories (0.1%)
>> # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0
>> Extent depth histogram: 410276/301
>> 46160360 blocks used (78.82%)
>> 0 bad blocks
>> 5 large files
>>
>> 359758 regular files
>> 45444 directories
>> 60 character device files
>> 26 block device files
>> 0 fifos
>> 607 links
>> 25327 symbolic links (19951 fast symbolic links)
>> 1 socket
>> ___
>> 431223 files
>
>
>        Good, the partition should now be clean. You should be able
>        to boot up normally if this was the only problem. Otherwise
>        you may have issues where you might need to install the
>        missing driver. This can be done from the failsafe login.
>
>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Tony Cratz
On 06/14/2010 12:20 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> I noticed in yesterday's instructions to Hai someone mentioned using a
> Live CD.  I downloaded and burned Lucid 64 bit from Kubuntu.org and
> booted from the Live CD.  I opened konsole and typed:
> 
> sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 and it gives the following:
> 430625  inodes used (2.94%)
> 615 non-contiguous files (0.1%)
> 452 non-contiguous directories (0.1%)
> # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0
> Extent depth histogram: 410276/301
> 46160360 blocks used (78.82%)
> 0 bad blocks
> 5 large files
> 
> 359758 regular files
> 45444 directories
> 60 character device files
> 26 block device files
> 0 fifos
> 607 links
> 25327 symbolic links (19951 fast symbolic links)
> 1 socket
> ___
> 431223 files


Good, the partition should now be clean. You should be able
to boot up normally if this was the only problem. Otherwise
you may have issues where you might need to install the
missing driver. This can be done from the failsafe login.


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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Johnston
I noticed in yesterday's instructions to Hai someone mentioned using a
Live CD.  I downloaded and burned Lucid 64 bit from Kubuntu.org and
booted from the Live CD.  I opened konsole and typed:

sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 and it gives the following:
430625  inodes used (2.94%)
615 non-contiguous files (0.1%)
452 non-contiguous directories (0.1%)
# of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0
Extent depth histogram: 410276/301
46160360 blocks used (78.82%)
0 bad blocks
5 large files

359758 regular files
45444 directories
60 character device files
26 block device files
0 fifos
607 links
25327 symbolic links (19951 fast symbolic links)
1 socket
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431223 files

thomas







On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Thomas Johnston
 wrote:
> device is busy.  (In some cases useful info about processes that use
> the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
>> On 06/13/2010 11:47 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>>> after typing fsck /dev/sda1 I get the following:
>>>
>>> "WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted.  If you continue you ***WILL***
>>> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
>>> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
>>>
>>> so I aborted.
>>
>>
>>        umount /dev/sda1
>>        fsck /dev/sda1
>>
>>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Johnston
device is busy.  (In some cases useful info about processes that use
the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))


On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
> On 06/13/2010 11:47 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>> after typing fsck /dev/sda1 I get the following:
>>
>> "WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted.  If you continue you ***WILL***
>> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
>> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
>>
>> so I aborted.
>
>
>        umount /dev/sda1
>        fsck /dev/sda1
>
>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Tony Cratz
On 06/13/2010 11:47 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> after typing fsck /dev/sda1 I get the following:
> 
> "WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted.  If you continue you ***WILL***
> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
> Do you really want to continue (y/n)?
> 
> so I aborted.


umount /dev/sda1
fsck /dev/sda1


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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Johnston
after typing fsck /dev/sda1 I get the following:

"WARNING!!! The filesystem is mounted.  If you continue you ***WILL***
cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue (y/n)?

so I aborted.

thomas


On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
> On 06/13/2010 11:42 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>> Just to be painfully clear as to what I am doing:
>> (1) power on, hold down shift key
>> (2) highlight boot option, "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic
>> (recovery mode)" and press 'e' to edit the commands
>> (3) from the recovery menu, choose 'root' drop to root shell prompt
>> (4) I enter my root password and then run fsck /home, which gives the
>> following output:
>> # fsck /home
>> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
>> e2fsck 1.41.11  (14-Mar-2010)
>> fsck.ext2: Is a directory while trying to open /home
>>
>> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
>> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
>> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the
>> superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an
>> alternate superblock: e2fsck –b 8193 
>>
>>
>> I am not sure that this is relevant, but my /dev/sda1 is type ext4
>
>
>        try fsck /dev/sda1
>
>
>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Tony Cratz
On 06/13/2010 11:42 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> Just to be painfully clear as to what I am doing:
> (1) power on, hold down shift key
> (2) highlight boot option, "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic
> (recovery mode)" and press 'e' to edit the commands
> (3) from the recovery menu, choose 'root' drop to root shell prompt
> (4) I enter my root password and then run fsck /home, which gives the
> following output:
> # fsck /home
> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
> e2fsck 1.41.11  (14-Mar-2010)
> fsck.ext2: Is a directory while trying to open /home
> 
> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the
> superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an
> alternate superblock: e2fsck –b 8193 
> 
> 
> I am not sure that this is relevant, but my /dev/sda1 is type ext4


try fsck /dev/sda1



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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Johnston
Just to be painfully clear as to what I am doing:
(1) power on, hold down shift key
(2) highlight boot option, "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-22-generic
(recovery mode)" and press 'e' to edit the commands
(3) from the recovery menu, choose 'root' drop to root shell prompt
(4) I enter my root password and then run fsck /home, which gives the
following output:
# fsck /home
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
e2fsck 1.41.11  (14-Mar-2010)
fsck.ext2: Is a directory while trying to open /home

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the
superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an
alternate superblock: e2fsck –b 8193 


I am not sure that this is relevant, but my /dev/sda1 is type ext4

thomas





On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
> On 06/13/2010 11:14 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>> Tony,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.  I'm sorry, but I am not a very sophisticated
>> Linux user.  Could you be a little detailed with your answers?
>>
>> I have tried to Google how to boot in single user mode without much
>> luck.  So far I have found two things:
>> (1) one website calls changing the run level to 1 entering 'single user' mode
>> (2) a second says to hold down the "shift" key at beginning of the
>> boot sequence.  I tried this and was presented with the option to boot
>> several different kernels (and each kernel had a recovery mode
>> option).  At the bottom of the screen it sasy: "Press enter to boot
>> the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a
>> command-line."  If I highlight the latest kernel (Ubuntu, with Linux
>> 2.6.32-22-generic (recovery mode) and press 'e', I get several more
>> options, one of which is: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32.-22-generic
>> root=UUID=long alpha-numeric string ro single.  I highlighted this
>> option and pressed "ctrl-x" to boot it.  I then get a recovery menu
>> which has various options: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, grub,
>> netroot, root
>>
>> I am in the ballpark of what you were suggesting I do?
>
>
>        Yes you are in the ball park. Please see yesterday E-mail to Hai
>        Yi about going into Grub and then 'drop to root shell'.
>
>
>        With most versions of *nix you can get into the single user
>        mode during the boot up procedure. *buntu has made it easy
>        with Grub and the 'Recover' mode.
>
>        Once you are in single user mode (root) then you should do
>        an 'fsck /home' to insure the partition is clean. Once it is
>        it should then be able to be mounted as read/write (which is
>        the error you where having).
>
>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Johnston
update: I tried the failsafeX mode I mentioned in my last email and
get the following error messages:

"Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode.  The following error was
encountered.  You may need to update your configuration to solve this.
(EE) [drm] failed to open device
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"

thomas





On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Thomas Johnston
 wrote:
> Tony,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  I'm sorry, but I am not a very sophisticated
> Linux user.  Could you be a little detailed with your answers?
>
> I have tried to Google how to boot in single user mode without much
> luck.  So far I have found two things:
> (1) one website calls changing the run level to 1 entering 'single user' mode
> (2) a second says to hold down the "shift" key at beginning of the
> boot sequence.  I tried this and was presented with the option to boot
> several different kernels (and each kernel had a recovery mode
> option).  At the bottom of the screen it sasy: "Press enter to boot
> the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a
> command-line."  If I highlight the latest kernel (Ubuntu, with Linux
> 2.6.32-22-generic (recovery mode) and press 'e', I get several more
> options, one of which is: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32.-22-generic
> root=UUID=long alpha-numeric string ro single.  I highlighted this
> option and pressed "ctrl-x" to boot it.  I then get a recovery menu
> which has various options: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, grub,
> netroot, root
>
> I am in the ballpark of what you were suggesting I do?
>
> thanks again,
>
> thomas
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
>> On 06/13/2010 09:38 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>>> "The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
>>> No write access to $HOME directory (/home/thomas).
>>> KDE is unable to start."
>>
>>        Have you tried to come up as single user via Grub? If not
>>        try it. You may find that fsck has failed on /home. Run it
>>        by hand. Then try rebooting.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Tony Cratz
On 06/13/2010 11:14 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> Tony,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I'm sorry, but I am not a very sophisticated
> Linux user.  Could you be a little detailed with your answers?
> 
> I have tried to Google how to boot in single user mode without much
> luck.  So far I have found two things:
> (1) one website calls changing the run level to 1 entering 'single user' mode
> (2) a second says to hold down the "shift" key at beginning of the
> boot sequence.  I tried this and was presented with the option to boot
> several different kernels (and each kernel had a recovery mode
> option).  At the bottom of the screen it sasy: "Press enter to boot
> the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a
> command-line."  If I highlight the latest kernel (Ubuntu, with Linux
> 2.6.32-22-generic (recovery mode) and press 'e', I get several more
> options, one of which is: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32.-22-generic
> root=UUID=long alpha-numeric string ro single.  I highlighted this
> option and pressed "ctrl-x" to boot it.  I then get a recovery menu
> which has various options: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, grub,
> netroot, root
> 
> I am in the ballpark of what you were suggesting I do?


Yes you are in the ball park. Please see yesterday E-mail to Hai
Yi about going into Grub and then 'drop to root shell'.


With most versions of *nix you can get into the single user
mode during the boot up procedure. *buntu has made it easy
with Grub and the 'Recover' mode.

Once you are in single user mode (root) then you should do
an 'fsck /home' to insure the partition is clean. Once it is
it should then be able to be mounted as read/write (which is
the error you where having).


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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Johnston
Tony,

Thanks for the reply.  I'm sorry, but I am not a very sophisticated
Linux user.  Could you be a little detailed with your answers?

I have tried to Google how to boot in single user mode without much
luck.  So far I have found two things:
(1) one website calls changing the run level to 1 entering 'single user' mode
(2) a second says to hold down the "shift" key at beginning of the
boot sequence.  I tried this and was presented with the option to boot
several different kernels (and each kernel had a recovery mode
option).  At the bottom of the screen it sasy: "Press enter to boot
the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a
command-line."  If I highlight the latest kernel (Ubuntu, with Linux
2.6.32-22-generic (recovery mode) and press 'e', I get several more
options, one of which is: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32.-22-generic
root=UUID=long alpha-numeric string ro single.  I highlighted this
option and pressed "ctrl-x" to boot it.  I then get a recovery menu
which has various options: resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, grub,
netroot, root

I am in the ballpark of what you were suggesting I do?

thanks again,

thomas




On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Tony Cratz  wrote:
> On 06/13/2010 09:38 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
>> "The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
>> No write access to $HOME directory (/home/thomas).
>> KDE is unable to start."
>
>        Have you tried to come up as single user via Grub? If not
>        try it. You may find that fsck has failed on /home. Run it
>        by hand. Then try rebooting.
>
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Re: [vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Tony Cratz
On 06/13/2010 09:38 PM, Thomas Johnston wrote:
> "The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
> No write access to $HOME directory (/home/thomas).
> KDE is unable to start."

Have you tried to come up as single user via Grub? If not
try it. You may find that fsck has failed on /home. Run it
by hand. Then try rebooting.



Tony
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[vox-tech] boot failure with KDE

2010-06-13 Thread Thomas Johnston
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 and I am no longer able to boot up as
normal.  I make it to the login screen without any indication of a
problem.  After typing in my user name and password, it continues to
boot.  Normally the remaining boot sequence shows several icons
appearing in the center of the screen; however, after the first icon
appears the system now hangs.  After several minutes an error message
pops up reading:

"The following installation problem was detected while trying to start KDE:
No write access to $HOME directory (/home/thomas).
KDE is unable to start."

After clicking "OK" to close the error message, a second message
appears reading: " Could not start ksmserver.  Check your
installation."

Clicking "Okay" on this messages returns me to the login screen.


A couple of notes:
(1) I am still able to get in via the "Console login".  (I think it is
a virtual terminal)
(2) I don't know exactly what caused this sudden failure to boot
properly.  Besides email and browsing the web, the last thing I
attempted to do was install veetle (a P2P TV program).  I didn't
notice any error messages during the install.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Thomas
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