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Re: [Vserver] broken unsubscribe
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:51:14PM +1000, David Hill [Hostcentral] wrote: OK enough is enough - the unsubscribe feature of Mailman is broken, but can the admin please take me off this list? remove my subscription too, please tia Thomas ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 12:17:38PM +0200, Thomas Sattler wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:51:14PM +1000, David Hill [Hostcentral] wrote: OK enough is enough - the unsubscribe feature of Mailman is broken, but can the admin please take me off this list? remove my subscription too, please hmm, I'd like to ask _all_ current members of this list, about their opinion, but first a few words in general ... a) Linux-VServer has gained some popularity, for example try with 'vserver' and I'm Feeling Lucky b) the mailing list is almost unused (by the list member) probably because of the good support on the irc channel ... c) lkml the kernel mailing list is an open mailing list very similar to the vserver mailing list, and naturally receives about the same amount of spam ... d) you know that I'd really prefer to keep the linux-vserver list open too, but, if the current community decides to make it a subscription only list, then we'll do that ... lkml spam for today ... 135 N L Jun 21 DE LOTERIJ PROMO 49 AWARD NOTIFICATION / CONFIRMATION 218 L Jun 21 internet-markete 92 Urgent problems with your website, return 206 N L Jun 21 Romia Fersi30 Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so, I've complained a hundred times about the spam, but there is only so much you can do about it, and that's what we should focus on ... if you think you can provide a better info/spam ratio than the current list does, feel free to jump in and manage the linux-vserver mailing list, martin does that for us now, and I'm glad that I do not have to maintain it myself ... if you think you can't handle one or two spam mails each day, and/or just want to complain about it, please go ahead, but don't expect anything to change. on the other hand, if you want to help here, then complaining about the spam is the wrong approach, either add your own spam filter, and propagate the rules/wordlists to the ml maintainer (as is done on lkml) or volunteer as 24/7 human spam filter, or make some other useful suggestion ... so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver and my answers to those questions are: 1) YES, 2) YES, 3) YES, 4) YES please let me know what you think, so that we can take appropriate steps ... ... this includes David and Thomas ... TIA, Herbert ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Hi there ... First of all. Herbert, I'm sorry. I should have written more than the few lines I wrote to declare my request. I try to unsubscribe from the list since, I don't know, several weeks. It is not because of some spam-mails, currently I just do not have the time to read the list itself. I just took Davids Mail to ask for beeing unsubscribed as the list management seems not to be repaired. I'm sorry, Thomas ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:15:18PM +0300, Eugeny Zadevalov wrote: Hello! I'm not a very active subscriber, and currently even don't use vserver(i switched to freevps two month ago), but I read this list to be on the bleeding age of this technologies. sounds interesting ... unfortunately we haven't heard much of the freevps team, since they decided to leave forever ... maybe you could visit us on the channel, and/or let us know what you think of both projects ... I want to say, that I tyered mostly not of the spam, but of ppl those post stupid comments about. Like i don't want this shit, etc. Every interested in vserver person imho could skip those JUST one or sometimes two spam messages. As for me it's not a problem. I think Martin doing his job very well! Thanks! So my answers would be: 1. YES 2. YES YES YES YES :) 3. YES 4. YES thanks for your opinion, Herbert HP 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) HP instead of a closed (subscription only) list HP 2) do we want martin to maintain and further HP improve the existing solution HP 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable HP spam every day/week/month HP 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium HP of communication and cooperation for linux HP vserver -- Eugeny aka ZEV. ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Herbert Poetzl wrote: hmm, I'd like to ask _all_ current members of this list, about their opinion i would not call me a member since i just read along but nevertheless here's my opinion: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list yes, allthough i think that it's not that important. i guess most people will study the website and subscribe (or decide it's not vserver they were looking for). however the current spam-level is really acceptable (at least for me) and i prefer an open list as long as this doesn't change dramatically. 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution yes! 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month yes. 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver yes. i don't participate in the development but reading the mailinglist (and the archives) helped a lot to setup a test-vserver. i don't follow irc -- so i'd naturally prefer to read the discussions on the list. best regards, Henrik -- Henrik Heil, zweipol Coy Heil GbR http://www.zweipol.net/ ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Herbert Poetzl wrote: so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list yes 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution no problem. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month no problem. 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver yes and my answers to those questions are: 1) YES, 2) YES, 3) YES, 4) YES please let me know what you think, so that we can take appropriate steps ... ... this includes David and Thomas ... TIA, Herbert ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Sandino Araico Sánchez -- ... there's no spoon ... ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list i don't care i can live with the few spam i get from this list (which doesn't mean i don't think it's annoying though :-) ) 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution yes 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month (if it's unavoidable) yes 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver yes -- regards, Georges Toth ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 06:30, Herbert Poetzl wrote: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list I am happy with either solution. 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution Yes. The unsubscribe does need fixed if it's broken. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month The spam is so little, and if you use any type of filtering/threading/ tagging in your client it easy to maintain 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver Yes, I think it has been in the past, is, and continue to be more so. TIA, Herbert Herbert, thanks for all your time and work put into linux vserver. I appreciate it greatly. -Josh ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mo, 2004-06-21 at 14:30, Herbert Poetzl wrote: so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list YES, although this might be argued by some, i think people should not be forced to subscribe, that could keep some people from reporting bugs/problems as they are just interested in solving their problem, but don't want to get all the other stuff. 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution YES, he's doing a good job. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month YES, this ml causes less than 1% of the spam i receive daily... 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver If I think about it, i'd even like to see more stuff discussed on IRC appear on the ml. IMHO scanning IRC logs is sometimes a little annoying, cause related information may be spread all over the place. But making the information available on the ml when the discussion is over, is probably even more annoying ;-) Bjoern ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list I subscribe and so does everyone who got this message (since you sent it to the list) so I suspect this will not have much impact on us who are using the list now. All of the big lists I participate in require subscription. The vserver list is relatively low traffic so why not subscribe? If people are concerned, a wiki page can be created that explains how to subscribe in digest mode if they prefer it (and if it's available) My vote is to go ahead and make it a closed subscription 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution Martin is doing a fine job. Martin, just so you know, being a mailing list administrator is apparently like being the sound guy in a performance... no one even knows you're there unless there's a problem. Keep up the good work. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month The SPAM level is low and certainly tolerable. Please, folks, if we decide to keep the list open, just ignore the spam and don't reply to it. 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver Yes, of course. It is archived and readily accessible using Google. There is no better medium than this for finding help. Matthew Nuzum | ISPs: Make $200 - $5,000 per referral by www.followers.net | recommending Elite CMS to your customers! [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.followers.net/isp ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Am Monday 21 June 2004 14:30 schrieb Herbert Poetzl: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver Yes to all of the 4 I have a link to go with for easy following without downloading spam: news://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.vserver Watch the threads with the favorite news reader :-) Ciao, Matthias ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
