Re: [Vserver] New project with vserver documentation (In spanish)
muy interesante hermano, puedo ayudarte, aunque con el tiempo que me queda... pero bueno.. no importa ;)On 2/21/06, Daniel Ortiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:HiI started a new proyect named LinuxParanoico.CL (actually inwww.minitruck.cl, when i have money i will move the site towww.linuxparanoico.cl, this month), the project goals is create, elaborate and find information and documentation about the GNU/Linuxsecurity issues .in this moment a complete documentation about the vserver-project is inprogress, we want to create a fully tested and completed guide about vservers in spanish (debian sarge based), rigth now the documentationabout vservers include (all in spanish):1.- spanish guide to recompile the kernel with the vserver patch2.- networking basic configuration 3.- How move the base-directories4.- host services configuration (ssh, apache,etc)5.- Most used vservers commands6.- networking advanced configuration (in progress)7.- Postinstalation configutation of the debian sarge vservers 8.- Mount directories in vservers9.- How install new vservers (from scrath an from new vserver) and howcopy vservers and respald them.Inthe future we want cover all the features about vserver, like vserver and grsecurity, install another distros, tested configurations, VirtualHostings guides, etcif you want link the page in the vserver oficial site absolutely noproblem, but keep in mind that the project is in www.minitruck.cl and inthe next week will be moved to www.linuxparanoico.clbyeDanielzaterio___ Vserver mailing listVserver@list.linux-vserver.orghttp://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Jairo Enrique Serrano CastañedaIngeniero de Sistemas UTBT - http://www.jsnat.com - http://savio.unitecnologica.edu.coC - http://www.drupal.org.es - http://www.champetux.org ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] New project with vserver documentation (In spanish)
Cuando quieras puedes publicar tu documentación, absolutamente bienvenida es tu ayuda, la idea es publicar info testeadayo ahora estoy tratando de hacer funcionar grsec+vserver y espero pronto publicar esta info..es español saludos De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Jairo Enrique Serrano Castañeda Enviado el: Jueves, 23 de Febrero de 2006 11:44 Para: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Asunto: Re: [Vserver] New project with vserver documentation (In spanish) muy interesante hermano, puedo ayudarte, aunque con el tiempo que me queda... pero bueno.. no importa ;) On 2/21/06, Daniel Ortiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I started a new proyect named LinuxParanoico.CL (actually in www.minitruck.cl, when i have money i will move the site to www.linuxparanoico.cl, this month), the project goals is create, elaborate and find information and documentation about the GNU/Linux security issues . in this moment a complete documentation about the vserver-project is in progress, we want to create a fully tested and completed guide about vservers in spanish (debian sarge based), rigth now the documentation about vservers include (all in spanish): 1.- spanish guide to recompile the kernel with the vserver patch 2.- networking basic configuration 3.- How move the base-directories 4.- host services configuration (ssh, apache,etc) 5.- Most used vservers commands 6.- networking advanced configuration (in progress) 7.- Postinstalation configutation of the debian sarge vservers 8.- Mount directories in vservers 9.- How install new vservers (from scrath an from new vserver) and how copy vservers and respald them. Inthe future we want cover all the features about vserver, like vserver and grsecurity, install another distros, tested configurations, Virtual Hostings guides, etc if you want link the page in the vserver oficial site absolutely no problem, but keep in mind that the project is in www.minitruck.cl and in the next week will be moved to www.linuxparanoico.cl bye Daniel zaterio ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Jairo Enrique Serrano Castañeda Ingeniero de Sistemas UTB T - http://www.jsnat.com - http://savio.unitecnologica.edu.co C - http://www.drupal.org.es - http://www.champetux.org ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] New project with vserver documentation (In spanish)
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 02:02:50PM -0300, Daniel Ortiz wrote: Cuando quieras puedes publicar tu documentación, absolutamente bienvenida es tu ayuda, la idea es publicar info testeada yo ahora estoy tratando de hacer funcionar grsec+vserver y espero pronto publicar esta info..es español sorry, folks, but the channel _and_ ML language is english, so either have your own chat/ML somewhere or stick to that language ... TIA, Herbert saludos _ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Jairo Enrique Serrano Castañeda Enviado el: Jueves, 23 de Febrero de 2006 11:44 Para: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Asunto: Re: [Vserver] New project with vserver documentation (In spanish) muy interesante hermano, puedo ayudarte, aunque con el tiempo que me queda... pero bueno.. no importa ;) On 2/21/06, Daniel Ortiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I started a new proyect named LinuxParanoico.CL (actually in www.minitruck.cl , when i have money i will move the site to www.linuxparanoico.cl, this month), the project goals is create, elaborate and find information and documentation about the GNU/Linux security issues . in this moment a complete documentation about the vserver-project is in progress, we want to create a fully tested and completed guide about vservers in spanish (debian sarge based), rigth now the documentation about vservers include (all in spanish): 1.- spanish guide to recompile the kernel with the vserver patch 2.- networking basic configuration 3.- How move the base-directories 4.- host services configuration (ssh, apache,etc) 5.- Most used vservers commands 6.- networking advanced configuration (in progress) 7.- Postinstalation configutation of the debian sarge vservers 8.- Mount directories in vservers 9.- How install new vservers (from scrath an from new vserver) and how copy vservers and respald them. Inthe future we want cover all the features about vserver, like vserver and grsecurity, install another distros, tested configurations, Virtual Hostings guides, etc if you want link the page in the vserver oficial site absolutely no problem, but keep in mind that the project is in www.minitruck.cl and in the next week will be moved to www.linuxparanoico.cl bye Daniel zaterio ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Jairo Enrique Serrano Castañeda Ingeniero de Sistemas UTB T - http://www.jsnat.com - http://savio.unitecnologica.edu.co C - http://www.drupal.org.es - http://www.champetux.org ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] New project with vserver documentation (In spanish)
Hi I started a new proyect named LinuxParanoico.CL (actually in www.minitruck.cl , when i have money i will move the site to www.linuxparanoico.cl, this month), the project goals is create, elaborate and find information and documentation about the GNU/Linux security issues . in this moment a complete documentation about the vserver-project is in progress, we want to create a fully tested and completed guide about vservers in spanish (debian sarge based), rigth now the documentation about vservers include (all in spanish): 1.- spanish guide to recompile the kernel with the vserver patch 2.- networking basic configuration 3.- How move the base-directories 4.- host services configuration (ssh, apache,etc) 5.- Most used vservers commands 6.- networking advanced configuration (in progress) 7.- Postinstalation configutation of the debian sarge vservers 8.- Mount directories in vservers 9.- How install new vservers (from scrath an from new vserver) and how copy vservers and respald them. Inthe future we want cover all the features about vserver, like vserver and grsecurity, install another distros, tested configurations, Virtual Hostings guides, etc if you want link the page in the vserver oficial site absolutely no problem, but keep in mind that the project is in www.minitruck.cl and in the next week will be moved to www.linuxparanoico.cl bye Daniel zaterio ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation /proc/virtual/*?
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 09:26:16AM +0200, Raimund Specht wrote: Hi ! Is there any documentation of what the various keys and values in the files in /proc/virtual/ mean (more than just a 'ls -R /proc/virtual/*')? The keys (=subdirs) btw are the Context-IDs of the running VServer guest systems. Oh yes, this isn't too hard to find out :) on the first attempt I found this doc: http://linux-vserver.org/HowTo+Read+ProcFS Maybe this helps? No, this is just a cat *. What I want to know is what all those funny values mean, e.g. what do these three columns with 2 values each in cacct mean, what is load_updates, what are the values in limit etc. I added some explanations, but not all entries are easily explainable and/or useful for the typical administrator ... for example, the beforementioned load_updates count the number of load average calculations done for this context (which is very useful for development and performance tuning, but usually only of limited use for administration) HTH, Herbert Thanks in advance. By(e): Raimund Specht. ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation /proc/virtual/*?
Hi ! Is there any documentation of what the various keys and values in the files in /proc/virtual/ mean (more than just a 'ls -R /proc/virtual/*')? The keys (=subdirs) btw are the Context-IDs of the running VServer guest systems. Oh yes, this isn't too hard to find out :) on the first attempt I found this doc: http://linux-vserver.org/HowTo+Read+ProcFS Maybe this helps? No, this is just a cat *. What I want to know is what all those funny values mean, e.g. what do these three columns with 2 values each in cacct mean, what is load_updates, what are the values in limit etc. Thanks in advance. By(e): Raimund Specht. ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] Documentation /proc/virtual/*?
Hi ! Is there any documentation of what the various keys and values in the files in /proc/virtual/ mean (more than just a 'ls -R /proc/virtual/*')? By(e): Raimund. ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation /proc/virtual/*?
Hi there, on Monday, October 24, 2005 at 16:29 on the list was posted: Is there any documentation of what the various keys and values in the files in /proc/virtual/ mean (more than just a 'ls -R /proc/virtual/*')? on the first attempt I found this doc: http://linux-vserver.org/HowTo+Read+ProcFS Maybe this helps? The keys (=subdirs) btw are the Context-IDs of the running VServer guest systems. -- regards, Guenther Fuchs ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] documentation: FC4 from scratch
Hi there, pls have a look on the new HowTo http://linux-vserver.org/FC4+from+scratch and correct if necessary, but this should work as I just built a new box whilst wrting it ;-) -- regards, Guenther Fuchs ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] documentation: FC4 from scratch
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I've been doing this for a while, although I have been slacking a bit
with it lately. I just today built a new one though, 2.6.13-1.1529_FC4
based with 2.0.1-pre2.
http://rpm.hozac.com/fedora/dhozac/4/i386/vserver/ has a .repo file you
can put in /etc/yum.repos.d, after removing the enabled=0 line from it,
you should be able to
yum install linux-vserver util-vserver{,-core,-lib,-sysv,-build}
to pull down everything you need.
It's unfortunately i686 only, since I do not have access to any of the
other architectures.
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[Vserver] Documentation on 1-line configuration files
hi guys, where can i find a documentation and explanation (and not only a list) of the new configuration schema of vserver? thanks a lot and bye, werner. ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation on 1-line configuration files
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 09:56:08PM +0100, Werner Schalk wrote: hi guys, where can i find a documentation and explanation (and not only a list) of the new configuration schema of vserver? http://linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html as well as in your util-vserver /doc dir as xml (and html) source ... if you are looking for more documentation/explanation this would be a good start for a wikified version where you add all the 'useful' information you might collect on the irc channel (or from the irc logs) HTH, Herbert thanks a lot and bye, werner. ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] documentation for cq-tools
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:59:05PM -0700, Lucas Albers wrote: I cannot find any documentation for cq-tools, other then a few command line examples here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Linux2.6/index.php?page=Per+Context+Disk+Limits Is their additional documentation on this tool? cqdlim -h This is cqdlim V0.06 options are: -hprint this help message -vverbose output -x num context id -S vals current/limit values cqhadd -h This is cqhadd V0.06 options are: -hprint this help message -vverbose output -x num context id cqhrem -h This is cqhrem V0.06 options are: -hprint this help message -vverbose output -x num context id except for that, not that I know of ... ... but feel free to add one to the wiki TIA, Herbert -- Luke Computer Science System Administrator Security Administrator,College of Engineering Montana State University-Bozeman,Montana ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] documentation for cq-tools
I cannot find any documentation for cq-tools, other then a few command line examples here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Linux2.6/index.php?page=Per+Context+Disk+Limits Is their additional documentation on this tool? -- Luke Computer Science System Administrator Security Administrator,College of Engineering Montana State University-Bozeman,Montana ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation
On 26 May 2004 at 17:46, Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 04:56:58PM +0200, Mike Fischer wrote: Hi! I've already got some vservers up and running nicely. (Kernel 2.4.22, vserver 1.00, utils 0.25) But now I need more. Much has changed since I last set up a vserver. But the documentation obviously hasn't. hmm, did you add to it last time? I wrote some Gentoo specific howto's, not on the installation, but on the administration of vservers. It can be obtained from: http://vserveradmin.intouch.nl/ I'm writing these documents as I go (running/installing/administer vservers), so the number of documents is likely to grow. Even though the notes are not on the page yet, the documents are released under the Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ Regards, Dennis Roos Network Engineer InTouch N.V. Middenweg 76 1097 BS Amsterdam Tel: +31 (0)20 6752060 Fax: +31 (0)20 6758429 ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote some Gentoo specific howto's, not on the installation, but on the administration of vservers. It can be obtained from: http://vserveradmin.intouch.nl/ that link doesn't work for me...? - -- regards, Georges Toth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAtdH08pWPvwUjUA0RAoFaAKCq8oSVSSf/0si3bKcs5nW57HnQagCg5foT m3foUbosupdcwTGslCIhVJg= =8Zy1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Fischer) writes: I've already got some vservers up and running nicely. (Kernel 2.4.22, vserver 1.00, utils 0.25) Mmmh... these are very old version and lots of security leaks have been fixed in the meantime. I found Enrico's speech-slides which tell me that the vserver script has lots of nice switches. But neither the manpage The slides are mainly about the next-generation tools (see http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=alpha+util-vserver). The man-pages are outdated and are not an authoritive information source at the moment. nor the script's help has anything to say about these. '--help' of the vserver 0.29.214 script should tell a lot... Where do I start looking or where Do I start writing documentation? The important reference-documentation about the configuration scheme is available in an abstract XML format (see doc/configuration.xml). Stylesheets for more human readable formats are welcome (afaik, Olivier Poitrey is already working on a DocBook stylesheet but I do not know the state). Else, as said, the man-pages are out-of-date and do not reflect the current state. But I am not sure if I want to stay at manually written man-pages, or if they should be written in DocBook. Enrico ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation
Enrico Scholz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Fischer) writes: I've already got some vservers up and running nicely. (Kernel 2.4.22, vserver 1.00, utils 0.25) Mmmh... these are very old version and lots of security leaks have been fixed in the meantime. Wlll, guess why I'm looking into the new versions. I found Enrico's speech-slides which tell me that the vserver script has lots of nice switches. But neither the manpage The slides are mainly about the next-generation tools (see http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=alpha+util-vserver). The man-pages are outdated and are not an authoritive information source at the moment. nor the script's help has anything to say about these. '--help' of the vserver 0.29.214 script should tell a lot... Where do I start looking or where Do I start writing documentation? The important reference-documentation about the configuration scheme is available in an abstract XML format (see doc/configuration.xml). Stylesheets for more human readable formats are welcome (afaik, Olivier Poitrey is already working on a DocBook stylesheet but I do not know the state). Else, as said, the man-pages are out-of-date and do not reflect the current state. But I am not sure if I want to stay at manually written man-pages, or if they should be written in DocBook. Oh! I get the DAU-of-the-day award for assuming that utils version 0.29.4, as stated on Herbert's page, is the newest version. Sorry, for troubling you. How about slapping the docs from the sourcetree into the wiki? Kind regards, Mike Fischer -- Fraunhofer Gesellschaft e.V. IPSI.ITI Dolivostr. 15 64293 Darmstadt Telefon: 06151 / 869 - 845 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 09:48:15AM +0200, Dennis Roos wrote: On 26 May 2004 at 17:46, Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 04:56:58PM +0200, Mike Fischer wrote: Hi! I've already got some vservers up and running nicely. (Kernel 2.4.22, vserver 1.00, utils 0.25) But now I need more. Much has changed since I last set up a vserver. But the documentation obviously hasn't. hmm, did you add to it last time? I wrote some Gentoo specific howto's, not on the installation, but on the administration of vservers. It can be obtained from: http://vserveradmin.intouch.nl/ I'm writing these documents as I go (running/installing/administer vservers), so the number of documents is likely to grow. Even though the notes are not on the page yet, the documents are released under the Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ hmm, didn't find _any_ reference to them on the linux-vserver.org wiki, maybe you forgot to add a link there? maybe others forgot too ... Regards, Dennis Roos Network Engineer InTouch N.V. Middenweg 76 1097 BS Amsterdam Tel: +31 (0)20 6752060 Fax: +31 (0)20 6758429 ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] Documentation
Hi! I've already got some vservers up and running nicely. (Kernel 2.4.22, vserver 1.00, utils 0.25) But now I need more. Much has changed since I last set up a vserver. But the documentation obviously hasn't. Or am I just too dumb to find it? I found Enrico's speech-slides which tell me that the vserver script has lots of nice switches. But neither the manpage nor the script's help has anything to say about these. Where do I start looking or where Do I start writing documentation? Kind regards, Mike Fischer -- Fraunhofer Gesellschaft e.V. IPSI.ITI Dolivostr. 15 64293 Darmstadt Telefon: 06151 / 869 - 845 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Documentation
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 04:56:58PM +0200, Mike Fischer wrote: Hi! I've already got some vservers up and running nicely. (Kernel 2.4.22, vserver 1.00, utils 0.25) But now I need more. Much has changed since I last set up a vserver. But the documentation obviously hasn't. hmm, did you add to it last time? Or am I just too dumb to find it? I found Enrico's speech-slides which tell me that the vserver script has lots of nice switches. But neither the manpage nor the script's help has anything to say about these. Where do I start looking or where Do I start writing documentation? http://linux-vserver.org/ http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=Documentation http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=alpha+util-vserver HTH, Herbert Kind regards, Mike Fischer -- Fraunhofer Gesellschaft e.V. IPSI.ITI Dolivostr. 15 64293 Darmstadt Telefon: 06151 / 869 - 845 ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: Re: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere?
On Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:02 PM NZT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Simon, Is there a list of things to remove prior to building the skel, and after? If so where can I get it, I continue to have problem with thing trying to start, like the can't initalize iptable - can't find etc/fstab, after I edited it in the skel...? /etc/rc.d stuff all needs to be modified quite a bit to work with vservers. I could look at adding some of the needed changes to the build-skel functionality in Vskel, only trouble is it tends to be a little distribution specific. I suggest you look in /etc/rc.d/init.d (in the skel) and delete all init scripts for things you don't need - including iptables. Then look in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d and remove the links to those same scripts (or you can use chkconfig to do this the 'tidy' way). Let me know if you still have trouble... -Simon ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: Re: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere?
Hello Simon, The vskel is a very good tool, nice job. I have but one question about creating the vservers, is there a way allocate disk, memory space for each vserver? I understand the ulimit to be the number of limited processes within the vserver. I ask this because, if your in webhosting customers would want to see some type of accounting for service level agreements, is this possible? From: Simon Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/11/05 Wed PM 05:04:18 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere? On Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:28 AM NZT, Jan-Hendrik Heuing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to get this right: - vanilla kernel should not be used on redhat - vserver does not patch redhat kernel yet ? It looks a bit like there is no straight way using redhat9 with vserver, am I right with this conclusion ? Correct... that's assuming redhat9 uses NPTL, I'm pretty sure it does but somebody correct me if I'm wrong... Anyway, if you still know the place of the kernel sources, I'd still like to know, as I can't find them. And I guess at some point there will be patches for the redhat kernel. up2date --download kernel-source The redhat9+ kernels also use the O(1) scheduler which I think is the main sticking point for vserver, but there has been work on O(1) vserver patches... somebody else can tell you more about that. What would be the way to go ? Use debian as the host, and maybe use rh vservers ? I'd like to use redhat for some things as I know about it. Just looking into debian... At Herbert's suggestion I'm now using Mandrake 9.2 and have found it quite nice. It's a redhat-based/redhat-style distribution, so most things are quite similar to redhat (i.e. it uses rpms and the system layout is much the same). But it doesn't use NPTL or O(1), so a vanilla kernel with vserver patches works just fine on Mandrake. -Simon ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere?
I once tried to make the vservers run on a SuSE disto but after serveral weekends gave up. That's basically due to my lack of ability to compile a vanilla kernel on SuSE so that all the modules it has with its standard kernel work. We run vservers under Debian 3.0 (Woody) without any problems. The normal vservers (without setting disk-space limits and without setting the context number :-)) are simple: I started with the introduction by Jacques (in april, I think) and worked up my way through the other docs in mentioned http://linux-vserver.org. Astonishingly there's not really much to do to run vservers: patching, compiling and installing the kernel, getting the tools of choice (either from the Debian distro or Enrico's util-vserver), setting up a vserver, do a vserver xxx start and that's it... As a kernel I use whatever is currently regarded as stable (on the long running system 2.4.18, on the systems to-be-set-up 2.4.22) and where the developers provide a patch. I found it to be very stable, relatively easy to install and extremely useful! Alexander Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2003 05:31 schrieb ian douglas: Considering RedHat's recent press release about discontinuing the RedHat Linux line in favor of the more expensive enterprise version, I'd really like a few answers from others (only had one off-list reply) regarding which operating system is going to be my best bet since I'm going to have to convert my server to another Linux distro now. I'll be starting a whole new server to manage everything but curious, obviously, which distro people have had the most success with other than RedHat. Thanks for any help on that, as well as my other unanswered questions. -id I searched the site's documentation and found the multi-page this is what it's capable of documentation, but didn't see any offhand that answered the following questions. I sent them to Jacques, but I'd like to pose it to the list in general for the 1.0 release so I can get started on vserver in the coming weeks. --- Hi Jacques, I've been daydreaming about a vserver setup for my system. A few things that perhaps would be handy to have in the FAQ: - what OS works 'best'? Kernel version is obviously important, but it would be neat to see some sort of volunteered information from various users as to the OS and version of that OS, that they have the most success with - how does one get started? is it best to start with a totally fresh machine and build from there, or could I start from a medium-sized virtual hosting setup using Linuxconf and build a vserver and go from there? I guess I'm looking for guidance on what should/should not get copied over when building the first vserver - once I build the first one, I can just use the vserver software to duplicate it, but I'm worried about disk space and how to actually mount/share file system areas... - any patched versions of up2date out there? or would I have to tell up2date to save a copy of the RPM's on the disk somewhere and run the vserver rpm utility to patch all vservers? If I have 100 vservers, is there a quicker way to tell it to patch all vservers, or would I have to literally type rpm server1 server2 server3 ... server99 server100 -Uvh *rpm ? --- Thanks for any additional feedback. -id ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 (0)30 / 61 20 26 87 fax: +49 (0)30 / 61 20 26 89 --- lieblinxNET we do software a Marwood Thiele GbR --- reichenberger straße 125 10999 Berlin http://lieblinx.net --- ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere?
At 13:53 05.11.2003, you wrote: Charles Dale wrote: Re: compiliing a kernel on SuSE, they should provide a .config file that has all the configuration options used for compiling the stock kernel. With RedHat this is in the config/ directory inside the kernel tree. Looking at a SuSE source RPM I can't see anything similar. Hmm. On redhat, if the config is in that directory, what is the config file in /boot ? The other thing: I might be wrong with this, but: Isn't it the case that redhat provides a patched kernel ? I could not fine the whole source kernel. Finally I used a standard vanilla kernel (which I still have little problems with). I could only find some kernel-xxx.src.rpm, but which only installs some other directory structure, not like it would be with a vanilla kernel. Ages ago I searched for the same for rh7.3, that days it was seperated, I also had to install kernel-headers etc..., but I can't find these things for rh9. Hints are appreaciated ! JH ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere?
Ages ago I searched for the same for rh7.3, that days it was seperated, I also had to install kernel-headers etc..., but I can't find these things for rh9. I think running a vanilla kernel on rh9/rhel3 is not a good idea (this was what I found with taroon at least) - the red hat kernel has NPTL (native posix thread library) support patched in, and a lot of userspace things expect this kernel support to be there. If you run a vanilla kernel (which won't have NPTL) then you will see problems with threaded apps. Unfortunately the vserver patches won't patch (yet) against the red hat patched kernels. Just to get this right: - vanilla kernel should not be used on redhat - vserver does not patch redhat kernel yet ? It looks a bit like there is no straight way using redhat9 with vserver, am I right with this conclusion ? Anyway, if you still know the place of the kernel sources, I'd still like to know, as I can't find them. And I guess at some point there will be patches for the redhat kernel. What would be the way to go ? Use debian as the host, and maybe use rh vservers ? I'd like to use redhat for some things as I know about it. Just looking into debian... thanks, JH ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] is there any getting started with vserver documentation anywhere?
Considering RedHat's recent press release about discontinuing the RedHat Linux line in favor of the more expensive enterprise version, I'd really like a few answers from others (only had one off-list reply) regarding which operating system is going to be my best bet since I'm going to have to convert my server to another Linux distro now. I'll be starting a whole new server to manage everything but curious, obviously, which distro people have had the most success with other than RedHat. Thanks for any help on that, as well as my other unanswered questions. -id I searched the site's documentation and found the multi-page this is what it's capable of documentation, but didn't see any offhand that answered the following questions. I sent them to Jacques, but I'd like to pose it to the list in general for the 1.0 release so I can get started on vserver in the coming weeks. --- Hi Jacques, I've been daydreaming about a vserver setup for my system. A few things that perhaps would be handy to have in the FAQ: - what OS works 'best'? Kernel version is obviously important, but it would be neat to see some sort of volunteered information from various users as to the OS and version of that OS, that they have the most success with - how does one get started? is it best to start with a totally fresh machine and build from there, or could I start from a medium-sized virtual hosting setup using Linuxconf and build a vserver and go from there? I guess I'm looking for guidance on what should/should not get copied over when building the first vserver - once I build the first one, I can just use the vserver software to duplicate it, but I'm worried about disk space and how to actually mount/share file system areas... - any patched versions of up2date out there? or would I have to tell up2date to save a copy of the RPM's on the disk somewhere and run the vserver rpm utility to patch all vservers? If I have 100 vservers, is there a quicker way to tell it to patch all vservers, or would I have to literally type rpm server1 server2 server3 ... server99 server100 -Uvh *rpm ? --- Thanks for any additional feedback. -id ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
