RE: [Vserver] mailing list
http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timo Müller Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:08 AM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: [Vserver] mailing list Hey, how can I deleted from the mailings list ?? Thanx ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] mailing list
And then ???! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timo Müller Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:08 AM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: [Vserver] mailing list Hey, how can I deleted from the mailings list ?? Thanx ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Timo Müller - Timo Müller Ruhr-Universität Bochum Rechenzentrum Universitätsstraße 150 NA 04/255 D-44780 Bochum Tel: +49 234 32-27674 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] mailing list
scroll down to the bottom of the page. In the bottom field enter your email address and click the button labeled Unsubscribe or edit options A new page will appear. click the Unsubscribe button -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timo Müller Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:51 AM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: Re: [Vserver] mailing list And then ???! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timo Müller Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:08 AM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: [Vserver] mailing list Hey, how can I deleted from the mailings list ?? Thanx ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Timo Müller - Timo Müller Ruhr-Universität Bochum Rechenzentrum Universitätsstraße 150 NA 04/255 D-44780 Bochum Tel: +49 234 32-27674 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
hello, i'm an active and very pleased user of vserver, but only passive mailing member. thank you very much for that software. 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list as everybody else i receive a lot of spam everyday, many from mailing lists. if the mailing lists were closed, i had far less spam. i share the opinion of those who say that if somebody wants something then he can subscribe. with mailman there is a _nomail_ option, so it is possible to write mails but not receive any email sent to the list. answer: NO 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution if the list is closed, we don't need this. he could have more spare time :-) (i thank him, too for the work he puts in favour of the community... and me...) answer: YES 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month i don't think anyone has a choice here, if he wants to participate on the mailing list (and the list is open) :-) if the list is closed, we don't have to tolerate any spam, so we can skip this question. answer: YES 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver as i don't have time to follow irc, i am not always online and want to access the news and important information (for example some possibilities i don't know), for me (and people like me) email is the best platform. (and i don't like browsing the web, i prefer receiving everything to one place: my mailbox :-) answer: YES my answers: NO, YES, YES, YES thanks, attila ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
It seems clear that the mailing list is starting see an increased level of spam that will only get worse as the bastards work out it is getting through to list subscribers. For this reason alone I would suggest subscription becomes compulsory. There is no real reason /not/ to be subscribed. It takes 5 minutes to go through the process and should solve what /will/ become an increasing problem. Let's not stick our finger in the dyke wall, rather patch the hole properly to the best of our current ability and subscription is clearly the best current solution. In regards IRC, being on a way different timezone makes that difficult at GMT +8 while the mailing list is a passive resource that can be consumed (in order) at any time and referred to at leisure. Keep up the good work! Regards from the list lurker Petar ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
- Original Message - From: Martin List-Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ... On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 18:11, Petar [Lists] wrote: There is no real reason /not/ to be subscribed. It takes 5 minutes to go through the process and should solve what /will/ become an increasing problem. Actually you are not quite right there. It get's more and more common to use unique email-addresses (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to identify where the email-address was picked up and to be able to counteract on that. This address would not necessarily be the one that is subscribed. Ok, that is just the way some people do it. I use a dedicated list email address and sort the stuff myself. The list subject line has a unique identified [vserver]. I would presume to guess that the majority of people are subscribed still with a simple email address? There will be pain all round for some people if the list is closed but accessibility for the majority will require change on the part of some. And if you have read the posts, some people are actually reading the mailinglist on a news gateway, no need for subscribing for them. Ok, fine. This is still a subset of those in total. See comment above. The people that read mail on news or use a special address for the mailinglist is one issue. The ones that have a ever changing unique address every time would have an issue. We all have a pretty good idea that the spam will increase and without some form of moderation i.e. subscription, the list resource will eventually become useless in that capacity. My preference is not important. The overall aim is to have a usable resource and ever increasing levels of spam will defeat this goal. ..Petar ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 19:10, Petar [Lists] wrote: We all have a pretty good idea that the spam will increase and without some form of moderation i.e. subscription, the list resource will eventually become useless in that capacity. My preference is not important. The overall aim is to have a usable resource and ever increasing levels of spam will defeat this goal. Check the mailinglist a couple of days ago, where i posted my suggestions for improving the mailinglist. Until now i haven't seen anybody complaining against my suggestions, so i'm writing on the software for handling that. Here is the post: http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg07183.html /Martin ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Hi there ... First of all. Herbert, I'm sorry. I should have written more than the few lines I wrote to declare my request. I try to unsubscribe from the list since, I don't know, several weeks. It is not because of some spam-mails, currently I just do not have the time to read the list itself. I just took Davids Mail to ask for beeing unsubscribed as the list management seems not to be repaired. I'm sorry, Thomas ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:15:18PM +0300, Eugeny Zadevalov wrote: Hello! I'm not a very active subscriber, and currently even don't use vserver(i switched to freevps two month ago), but I read this list to be on the bleeding age of this technologies. sounds interesting ... unfortunately we haven't heard much of the freevps team, since they decided to leave forever ... maybe you could visit us on the channel, and/or let us know what you think of both projects ... I want to say, that I tyered mostly not of the spam, but of ppl those post stupid comments about. Like i don't want this shit, etc. Every interested in vserver person imho could skip those JUST one or sometimes two spam messages. As for me it's not a problem. I think Martin doing his job very well! Thanks! So my answers would be: 1. YES 2. YES YES YES YES :) 3. YES 4. YES thanks for your opinion, Herbert HP 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) HP instead of a closed (subscription only) list HP 2) do we want martin to maintain and further HP improve the existing solution HP 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable HP spam every day/week/month HP 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium HP of communication and cooperation for linux HP vserver -- Eugeny aka ZEV. ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Herbert Poetzl wrote: hmm, I'd like to ask _all_ current members of this list, about their opinion i would not call me a member since i just read along but nevertheless here's my opinion: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list yes, allthough i think that it's not that important. i guess most people will study the website and subscribe (or decide it's not vserver they were looking for). however the current spam-level is really acceptable (at least for me) and i prefer an open list as long as this doesn't change dramatically. 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution yes! 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month yes. 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver yes. i don't participate in the development but reading the mailinglist (and the archives) helped a lot to setup a test-vserver. i don't follow irc -- so i'd naturally prefer to read the discussions on the list. best regards, Henrik -- Henrik Heil, zweipol Coy Heil GbR http://www.zweipol.net/ ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Herbert Poetzl wrote: so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list yes 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution no problem. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month no problem. 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver yes and my answers to those questions are: 1) YES, 2) YES, 3) YES, 4) YES please let me know what you think, so that we can take appropriate steps ... ... this includes David and Thomas ... TIA, Herbert ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver -- Sandino Araico Sánchez -- ... there's no spoon ... ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list i don't care i can live with the few spam i get from this list (which doesn't mean i don't think it's annoying though :-) ) 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution yes 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month (if it's unavoidable) yes 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver yes -- regards, Georges Toth ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 06:30, Herbert Poetzl wrote: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list I am happy with either solution. 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution Yes. The unsubscribe does need fixed if it's broken. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month The spam is so little, and if you use any type of filtering/threading/ tagging in your client it easy to maintain 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver Yes, I think it has been in the past, is, and continue to be more so. TIA, Herbert Herbert, thanks for all your time and work put into linux vserver. I appreciate it greatly. -Josh ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
On Mo, 2004-06-21 at 14:30, Herbert Poetzl wrote: so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list YES, although this might be argued by some, i think people should not be forced to subscribe, that could keep some people from reporting bugs/problems as they are just interested in solving their problem, but don't want to get all the other stuff. 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution YES, he's doing a good job. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month YES, this ml causes less than 1% of the spam i receive daily... 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver If I think about it, i'd even like to see more stuff discussed on IRC appear on the ml. IMHO scanning IRC logs is sometimes a little annoying, cause related information may be spread all over the place. But making the information available on the ml when the discussion is over, is probably even more annoying ;-) Bjoern ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
so, now the questions I'd like to get answered: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list I subscribe and so does everyone who got this message (since you sent it to the list) so I suspect this will not have much impact on us who are using the list now. All of the big lists I participate in require subscription. The vserver list is relatively low traffic so why not subscribe? If people are concerned, a wiki page can be created that explains how to subscribe in digest mode if they prefer it (and if it's available) My vote is to go ahead and make it a closed subscription 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution Martin is doing a fine job. Martin, just so you know, being a mailing list administrator is apparently like being the sound guy in a performance... no one even knows you're there unless there's a problem. Keep up the good work. 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month The SPAM level is low and certainly tolerable. Please, folks, if we decide to keep the list open, just ignore the spam and don't reply to it. 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver Yes, of course. It is archived and readily accessible using Google. There is no better medium than this for finding help. Matthew Nuzum | ISPs: Make $200 - $5,000 per referral by www.followers.net | recommending Elite CMS to your customers! [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.followers.net/isp ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...
Am Monday 21 June 2004 14:30 schrieb Herbert Poetzl: 1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml) instead of a closed (subscription only) list 2) do we want martin to maintain and further improve the existing solution 3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable spam every day/week/month 4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium of communication and cooperation for linux vserver Yes to all of the 4 I have a link to go with for easy following without downloading spam: news://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.vserver Watch the threads with the favorite news reader :-) Ciao, Matthias ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Mailing List ...
On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 19:38, Herbert Poetzl wrote: Hi Martin! would it be possible to enhance the mailing list somewhat ... especially the following issues seem to arise on a regular basis: - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (9 in december, 99 total) - mail has a Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (26 total) - mail has a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8 in december, 2 in november) Look at all the posts and you will see, that the Reply-To: header should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason, that the To: header is different for these posts is because people used these adresses. I can see, if i can get them rewritten when they go past the mailinglist-server software. further it would really really nice to have the 'old' mailing list postings in the archive and a search function for them, if you need some help, maybe someone in the community is able and willing to do so ... I still need the old posts from Paul Sladen. It would be easy to get them in afterwards. I'll just drop him a mail again, with the request. Regarding the search engine i've maybe got a better idea. I'll drop you a mail during the week. This weekend is quite busy, so i haven't got much done yet. Regards, Martin List-Petersen martin at list-petersen dot se -- Delta: We're Amtrak with wings. -- David Letterman ___ Vserver mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
