'black' screen of death?

[Toby Oldham]

HI guys and gals, I was hoping someone might once again do some shedding of 
light.

I was all ready to take my Special edition 'grey' Clamshell ibook to [insert 
shameless 
plug for small screen BIG PICTURE TV conference, 7-9th May, Rendevous Hotel, 
Observation City] ... a conference. I plan to take to take some digital 
snapshots and 
offer the other staff members the laptop to use for notetaking.

The ibook is running 10.2.3, but I figured 'what the hell', and attemtped to 
upgrade it 
to 10.2.6 (the ibook is running the latest firmware -v4.17- as far as I know).

I _should_ have left the unbroken wheel well enough alone.

First, software update crapped out attemtping to download the 10.2.6 combo 
update 
to the desktop - twice.

Then the installer application on the 10.2.4 combo update 'unexpectedly quit' 
three 
times when I tried to run it. By this point, I'm wondering what's wrong with 
the ibook 
(having just successfully 'software update' downloaded and installed 10.2.6 on 
a 
700Mhz ibook next door).

I pull out my 10.2 CD's and wipe the Hard-disk, 'zero-ing' all the data and 
attempt to 
doa clean install of 10.2.

About a third of the way through the first CD it happens. the screen goes black 
and 
some DOS-like, UNIX terminal-ly text comes up, telling me I've got a 'Data 
error [0]' 
and I should restart the computer.

...

So, any ideas? I'd like to know what went wrong with my machine in the first 
place, 
then what I did to it :-}

I figure it can't be co-incidence that I 'zeroed all data' and am now getting a 
'Data 
Error [0]' message ... 


Cheers,

Tobes.

P.S. I verfied the disk a couple of times also during and after the process, 
seemed 
fine.

Re: Interested at eMac.(WTB)

[Reg Whitely]

Mark

Look at Apple website for specs and prices of new ones. A base 1 GHz 
model is available for ~$1250!


Reg

On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 01:22 am, Mark McLen wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I'm interesting to buy eMac and looking for offer.

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Re: Computer Furniture.

[Reg Whitely]

Ken

Have a look at System Shawtec. THey have made some fantastic computer 
furniture for my school and are a local company. THey have a lot of 
standard designs and can make/design anything to suit your needs.

http://shawtec.com.au/
Ph: : (08) 92447700
  Fax:(08) 92447711

Regards

Reg

On Wednesday, May 7, 2003, at 10:46 am, Kelly Duffy wrote:
On 7/5/03 10:35 AM, "Ken Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good morning all,
>
> Aside from the likes of Harvey Norma etc., can anyone recommend a good 
> place
> to buy computer furniture (desk etc).
>
> Ken W...
>
>
Reg Whitely
Principal, Chapman Valley Primary School
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Interested at eMac.(WTB)

[Mark McLen]

Hi Everyone,

I'm interesting to buy eMac and looking for offer.

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Re: Computer Furniture.

[Kelly Duffy]

IKEA and Freedom Furniture have the best computer desks in a modular sense.
They look decent, they are easy to assemble, they pull apart just as easily,
they're good value and there is a wide range. And you see them all with old
iMacs on them when you walk around IKEA.

However, if you want a more expensive, real timber desk, like solid Jarrah
they don't have much. There is a place in Perth that does custom designed
and built furniture, if someone could tell me what its called it would be
appreciated.

Kind regards,
Kelly

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> Good morning all,
> 
> Aside from the likes of Harvey Norma etc., can anyone recommend a good place
> to buy computer furniture (desk etc).
> 
> Ken W...
> 
> 
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Nikon F60 SLR Camera

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks,

I have decided to make the jump to a digital camera, but can only afford to
do so by selling my SLR 35mm.

If anyone is interested drop me a line at this email address.

It is a Nikon F60 with 28 - 80mm Nikor Lens.
I bought it about 18 months ago to replace my instant compact, but have
found that it is more than I can handle. Consequently it has not been used
very much.

It is going in the Quokka this week for $600 so make an offer if you wish.

-- 
Regards,
Stephen Chape 

Re: Internet Telephony programs

[*]

hi...try looking at Internet Phone from Vocal Tec. It is cross platform but
I'm not sure how good it is i tried it a couple of years ago and it seemed
to work ok

Yvonne

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> Hi,
>
> are there any internet telephony programs out there which allow one to
> chat to PC using humans?
>
> Ken
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Re: AAC music compression

[Dark Servant]

That's a very interesting article Peter. Well the sound quality isn't 
really any different and the extra disk space isn't an issue either so 
I guess I'll just keep using my non-DRM MP3 technology.


Ruben. A. Franke


There was some discussion at last night's meeting about the reason for
Apple's use of AAC instead of MP3 for its Music Store offerings. This
little snippet from the latest issue of Tidbits offers some more
information...

--
**Digital Rights Management and Copy Prevention** -- Let's be
real. The reason the iTunes Music Store exists at all is because
Apple is using AAC files that include digital rights management
(DRM) technology. Without including some sort of DRM, Apple would
have stood an igloo's chance in Florida of working out a deal
to license songs from the major record labels. AAC isn't about
digital rights management; it really is aimed at doing a better
job - both in terms of compression and quality - than the MP3
format. But Apple's implementation of AAC also provides hooks
for digital rights management that prevents casual copying.

Songs you purchase are protected using your iTunes Music Store
authorization information. Any copy of iTunes (or any other
appropriately QuickTime 6.2.2-savvy software - QuickTime Player
works now) must know your authorization information to play the
song. Plus, if you view iTunes' Get Info window for a song you've
purchased, you'll see that it includes your name and email
address. That alone is likely to cut down on copying, since many
people would be uncomfortable distributing tracks that listed
them as the instigator. And of course, it would be extremely easy
for the RIAA's hordes of slavering lawyers to come after you
(something they've been doing with increasing frequency to college
students they allege are sharing large numbers of music files).
The traditional dodge of providing a false name and email address
will be more difficult to implement since the information comes
from your Apple 1-Click account.
--

The article goes to explain how Apple uses DRM to impose certain
restrictions on how how Macs can be used at a time to play a song, the
number times a song can be burnt to CD before changing the playlist,
Rendezvous sharing, and the limitation of playing purchased music only
on a Mac or an iPod (for the time being, at least).



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filemaker pro calendar solution?

[John Reed]

hi folks

I'm using filemaker pro 6 and osX 10.2.3

I'm looking for a comprehensive calendar that gives me daily entry , 
weekly, monthly and yearly summary (yearly as in columns of months to 
print off wall chart summaries). I want to integrate it with other 
filemaker pro databases for organising projects. It seems that 
calendar monster used to be the answer but that seems to be untraceable 
after filemaker 4. CC calendar from Clevelandconsulting.com looks good 
but doesn't have a yearly view. Skedpro and Appt1.0v7 FM5 look a bit 
clunky.

ical looks good but isn't filemaker pro and doesn't have a yearly view.

Does anyone know any solutions and are there any workarounds to 
integrate existing calendars (eg entourage, ical) with filemaker pro?

thanks in advance

john


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Internet Telephony programs

[kfchan]

Hi,

are there any internet telephony programs out there which allow one to 
chat to PC using humans?


Ken

ICQ failure

[Richard M.]

Greeting WAMUG folks,

Mirabilis' ICQ v3.2 (build 5) started playing up a couple of days ago,
halting after loading the resource file with the highly uninformative
message:

"An error occurred while trying to access a file. The file may be in use by
another application or another copy of ICQ"

I've tried rebooting the computer, reinstalling ICQ, renaming some of the
files in the relevant folder; all to no effect.

Has anyone seen this before, or can point me to a troubleshooting page - my
google search came up with one page about some obscure bug that was fixed in
a point release a while ago.

Running on an iMac 400MHz, with OSX 10.1.5

Thanks all

Richard

Meeting

[Sojourn]

Thanks for a very interesting meeting, From new toys to books and os9 clone
apps I found it very informative.
Great work people
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RE: Computer Furniture.

[Ted Burbidge]

Hello Ken, If you are looking for a reception desk with front riser panel, I 
have 2 x S/H in
very good condition that you can have cheap. Will take a 17" monitor, and have 
cable holes in
them.
Regards, Ted Burbidge

-Original Message-
From: Ken Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2003 10:36
To: WAMUG
Subject: Computer Furniture.


Good morning all,

Aside from the likes of Harvey Norma etc., can anyone recommend a good place
to buy computer furniture (desk etc).

Ken W...


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RE: iinet - The Final Showdown!

[Ted Burbidge]

Hello Stewart, I have had ADSL with iinet for months now and it runs perfectly, 
and their
service has been excellent. I had few problems at initial connection, and they 
readily agreed
that I only start paying once the connection was up and running properly which 
took a couple of
days.
Ted Burbidge

-Original Message-
From: Stewart Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2003 16:09
To: wamug org
Subject: iinet - The Final Showdown!


Meanwhile WAMUGers,

back in iinet adsl-land - "where plasticine flowers eat marshmallow pies"

After trying every possible mtu rate that iinet tech support could think of
I was informed that they really don't know what to do about it. Apparently,
"the fault is with telstra and may take up to 3 months to fix properly if
you can be patient" and, interestingly, when I suggested going to another
ISP: "Oh, you won't get this problem with other ISP's Sir!" (I don't think
he was supposed to say that!)

Excuse paraphrasing for brevity (the actual conversation was about an hour):

Me: So you're saying it'll be another few months maybe before this works
properly?

iinet: yes, Sir, but we're working on a band-aid style fix which should be
ready in a couple of weeks...

Me: So I just use my dial-up until you've got it figured?

iinet: yes sir, and I'm prepared to offer you a full MONTH off your adsl
bill

me: From when exactly? From when the adsl starts working properly?

iinet: No Sir, from when you signed up with us 2 weeks ago...

me: But I don't have adsl yet...so if you don't figure out a fix for this
then I'm paying for adsl despite the fact that you haven't supplied it?

iinet: Sir, you have an adsl connection, it's just not working like you
want it to - can't you live with having to click all URL's twice - it's just
a minor problem..

me: and the fact that my browser hangs all the time because it can't
recieve packets isn't a problem?

iinet: Well, you do have a connection, sir

me: so, perhaps everytime I want to use my chat client you're suggesting I
disconnect from adsl, dial up, chat, disconnect, then reconnect to adsl to
browse the web etc, so you can bill me?

iinet: let me talk to my supervisor for a moment



iinet: sir, I've been authorised to refund you the full cost of your 3
months adsl...

me: ...and the $100 set up fee?

iinet: Sorry, Sir, that money was paid to telstra - we can't refund that

me: but I'm not in business with telstra, you guys are...seems to me you
should be having a word with telstra

iinet: Well, you do have an internet connection, sir

me: yes, but I'm paying for an internet SERVICE, and I don't have one of
those...

iinet: I'm sorry, I definitely can't refund you with the $100 from telstra

me: Then you need to put me through to someone who can..



iinet: Sir, I do apologise, my supervisor has authorised me to refund you
the $100 set up also...

me: Apology accepted...(sort of)



Off to find another adsl supplier ;-)

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Re: Computer Furniture.

[Mike Fuller]

Hi Ken,

If you're looking for value for money I don't think you can beat auctions
that involve office furniture. One of the better auction sites is Smith
Broughton out at Midland. They hold such auctions roughly every 2 weeks,
usually on a Tuesday morning. Their next one is next week, I think. Look in
Saturday's West for details. (I have no connection with them, BTW)

If you're not familiar with such auctions you probably won't believe how
cheap you can get quality desks for.

Regards,

Mike Fuller

> From: Ken Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:35:40 +0800
> To: WAMUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Computer Furniture.
> 
> Good morning all,
> 
> Aside from the likes of Harvey Norma etc., can anyone recommend a good place
> to buy computer furniture (desk etc).
> 
> Ken W...
> 
> 
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Re: Computer Furniture.

[Daniel]

Good morning all,

Aside from the likes of Harvey Norma etc., can anyone recommend a good place
to buy computer furniture (desk etc).

Ken W...





Hi Ken

Apart from Officeworks and Furniture spot (which is quite cheap) 
there is quite a good place on Scarborough Beach Road, just down from 
IKEA. I bought a desk from there about 2 years ago, and it was really 
good.They had quite a large range.


Sorry I can't remember the name, but drop me an email if you want more info.

Some of the ones at OfficeWorks aren't too bad. I bought one when 
they had a free bookshelf promo, and it's nice.


I hope that helps!

Kind Regards
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Re: Eudora Problem

[Dennis Barnden]

At 11:28 AM +0800 7/5/03, KEVIN Lock wrote:
>Using an eMac 700mhz and eudora 5.2
>
>A couple of weeks ago I accidentally dropped a jpeg onto the eudora
>task bar. It has become a permanent fixture and I cannot get rid of
>itit wont be dragged out and I see no information or settings to
>fix this.
>
>Any ideas please?


RTFM


>From page 314 of the 5.1 user manual...

To remove a button from the toolbar, do the following:

 While pressing the Command key, drag the button to the Trash on your
desktop. Or,
press the Command key and click the button, then click Remove Button in the
dialog.


Good luck.
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"Ray was not dead, he had only gone to the dentist." G. Keillor "WLT"

Eudora Problem

[KEVIN Lock]

Using an eMac 700mhz and eudora 5.2

A couple of weeks ago I accidentally dropped a jpeg onto the eudora 
task bar. It has become a permanent fixture and I cannot get rid of 
itit wont be dragged out and I see no information or settings to 
fix this.


Any ideas please?

Kevin

Re: PDFs from OSX to PCs

[Shay Telfer]

Using the Print Centre facility in OSX with Appleworks I have saved a
document as a pdf file and sent it as an attachment to an email from
Eudora to a person running Office 2000 on a PC. He has to open it
first before he can save it. To me this seems appropriate BUT if I
send it as an attachment through the mail facility at my ISP he can
save the document and open it later. I thought my version of Eudora
might be the problem so I upgraded, and the same occurs.

Could someone who is across both platforms offer an explanation, please.
Merv


Your ISP's web e-mail probably sends the document as HTML e-mail with 
the PDF embedded in it, whereas Eudora probably sends it as a MIME 
attachment, hence why the PC browser responds differently. To get 
this behaviour in Eudora you could try creating an HTML e-mail 
message (blecch) and dropping the PDF document into the body of the 
message.


Thanks,
Shay
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Palm Desktop

[Angus Russell]

Hiya

Does anyone know how to get Palm Desktop to use a 24 hr clock rather than am
& pm?

Can not seem to find anything in preferences and my system clocks, and all
others are set to 24 hrs.

Much obliged

Angus

Re: PDFs from OSX to PCs

[David Watkins]

Merv

I can't fully grasp what you mean by the difference of sending the
file as an attachment to an e-mail and sending it as an attachment
through your mail facility.

Receiving a file attachments on a PC is pretty much the same as a
Mac and you should be able to save the file without opening it.
There is however a security option on Windows PC Outlook Express
which if checked prevents attached files being opened and saved
that could be a potential virus.

A couple of things you also need to do when sending a file to a PC
user is to make sure it has a suffix on the end which in this case
is .pdf, the other thing is to make sure that you have the method
of encoding is set at "Apple Double" (MIME).

If you still have problems send me more exact information and I
will help you out the best I can.

Dave Watkins



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At 10:08 PM +0800 6/5/03, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond wrote:

> Using the Print Centre facility in OSX with Appleworks I have saved a
> document as a pdf file and sent it as an attachment to an email from
> Eudora to a person running Office 2000 on a PC. He has to open it
> first before he can save it. To me this seems appropriate BUT if I
> send it as an attachment through the mail facility at my ISP he can
> save the document and open it later. I thought my version of Eudora
> might be the problem so I upgraded, and the same occurs.
>
> Could someone who is across both platforms offer an explanation, please.
> Merv
> --
> "Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must
> also believe in order to see."

Computer Furniture.

[Ken Woods]

Good morning all,

Aside from the likes of Harvey Norma etc., can anyone recommend a good place
to buy computer furniture (desk etc).

Ken W...


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Fonts in OSX

[Severin Crisp]

In OS9 there is a considerable speed advantage to be gained from 
slimming down the fonts collection. In OSX I seem to have a huge 
font collection including Oriental characters which display as some 
default western font (as seen in WordX [carbon] font list). In a 
Cocoa font list panel a in Text Edit they do not show up in the same 
way. Are these unwanted fonts gumming up the works or do they just 
sit idle in the background?
I am aware of the different places that fonts are stored and the 
limitations on manipulating them but would hapily toss out some of 
the debris.

Advice please
Severin Crisp
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Start-up problem

[Lloyd White]

I sent out a help message a few weeks ago but got no response. As the
problem keeps recurring irregularly I will try again.

When I push the start button on my iMac (slot loading) OS 9.2.1 I hear a
long tone and the following message appears on a grey screen:


Apple PowerMac2, 14.1.9f1 Bootrom built on 09/14/01 at 13:18:04.
All rights reserved
Welcome to Open firmware, the system time and date is: 08:21:41 05/07/2003.
To continue booting , type "mac-boot" and press return.
To shut down, type "shut-down" and press return
Ok

When I type  and press return I get an orange screen and a message
DEFAULT CATCH, code=900 at  (and then a series of numbers and letters).
No further progress and I have to press the restart button.


If I type shut-down it does but the problem reoccurs on restart. I find that
if I pull the power plug for 3-4 minutes and restart the problem has gone
(most times)

Does anyone recognise these messages or have any advice on the way to
proceed. 

TIA

Lloyd 

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Can send but not receive email

[Michael Hawkins]

I am a Bliink subscriber with iinet. I use OS 10.2.5 & Entourage 10.1.1

Starting this morning, I can send but can not receive emails. I have
disconnected a number of times and reconnected. One of my clients has been
blessed with a similar problem for over a week. Does anyone else share this
joyous experience?


Regards,

Michael Hawkins.

AAC music compression

[Peter Hinchliffe]

There was some discussion at last night's meeting about the reason for 
Apple's use of AAC instead of MP3 for its Music Store offerings. This 
little snippet from the latest issue of Tidbits offers some more 
information...

--
**Digital Rights Management and Copy Prevention** -- Let's be
real. The reason the iTunes Music Store exists at all is because
Apple is using AAC files that include digital rights management
(DRM) technology. Without including some sort of DRM, Apple would
have stood an igloo's chance in Florida of working out a deal
to license songs from the major record labels. AAC isn't about
digital rights management; it really is aimed at doing a better
job - both in terms of compression and quality - than the MP3
format. But Apple's implementation of AAC also provides hooks
for digital rights management that prevents casual copying.

Songs you purchase are protected using your iTunes Music Store
authorization information. Any copy of iTunes (or any other
appropriately QuickTime 6.2.2-savvy software - QuickTime Player
works now) must know your authorization information to play the
song. Plus, if you view iTunes' Get Info window for a song you've
purchased, you'll see that it includes your name and email
address. That alone is likely to cut down on copying, since many
people would be uncomfortable distributing tracks that listed
them as the instigator. And of course, it would be extremely easy
for the RIAA's hordes of slavering lawyers to come after you
(something they've been doing with increasing frequency to college
students they allege are sharing large numbers of music files).
The traditional dodge of providing a false name and email address
will be more difficult to implement since the information comes
from your Apple 1-Click account.
--

The article goes to explain how Apple uses DRM to impose certain 
restrictions on how how Macs can be used at a time to play a song, the 
number times a song can be burnt to CD before changing the playlist, 
Rendezvous sharing, and the limitation of playing purchased music only 
on a Mac or an iPod (for the time being, at least).



-- 
Peter Hinchliffe
Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, 
Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.


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