Re: So you thought Mac was more expensive than a PC ?

2004-11-07 Thread Ronda Brown


On 06/11/2004, at 8:37 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



Not true, according to Paul Murphy.
Read here :-

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/But-Theres-No-Software-for-the-Mac- 
Right-37806.html


Cheers

Bob


Yes Bob,  I've been 'trying' to explain this to PC users for years  
. but . they don't listen to Mac people!
H,  'Windows Mentality'   I don't think we will ever change it  
... and perhaps we don't really want to ???


Cheers,
Ronni (who is very happy to remain a minority)

When Microsoft asks you, Where do you want to go today? Tell them,  
Apple!




Re: So you thought Mac was more expensive than a PC ?

2004-11-07 Thread Paul Kitchener

Ronda Brown wrote:



On 06/11/2004, at 8:37 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



Not true, according to Paul Murphy.
Read here :-

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/But-Theres-No-Software-for-the-Mac- 
Right-37806.html


Cheers

Bob



Yes Bob,  I've been 'trying' to explain this to PC users for years  
. but . they don't listen to Mac people!
H,  'Windows Mentality'   I don't think we will ever change it  
... and perhaps we don't really want to ???


Cheers,
Ronni (who is very happy to remain a minority)

When Microsoft asks you, Where do you want to go today? Tell them,  
Apple!



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I build PCs for clients.

Even when the specs of the PC are WAY up there, these are fast machines 
and indeed cost accordingly, comparable in price to (IMHO) a Mac of 
'similar' capabilities, in fact they will share a good deal of components.


The rub actually comes once Ive finished assembling a well thought out 
PC, all I can do for the customer is install bloody XP.


They think it is fine/great but I know that it will never realise the 
potential of the hardware Ive sold them.
I feel as though I should sell them a cheaper machine as the result will 
be almost the same. But where's the kudos in that?;)


Linux is just about ruled out for this situation as no self respecting 
Linux nerd would get anyone else to design and assemble their shiny new PC.


So it's XP yet again, sigh. At least theres Mozilla for them...


Cheers

Paul

'Mac because I prefer it, Windows because they think they have to..'


Re: strange Safari behaviour

2004-11-07 Thread Vladimir James
Where I previously clicked on the URL, saw the address in the Safari
window, but received the message that Safari could not find the server,
then had to use the return key before being able to enter the site...

...with the 10.3.6 Update, I have had no problems of this type so far.

Vlad James

 some WAMUG comments ---
 For the last few days each time I go to a website (from bookmarks, or
 a link, or typed in manually) it does not connect and I get a message
 telling me the server cannot be found. But if I try a second time it
 connects.

  A wider problem? Of interesting note is that we are beginning to receive
reports from some users who have recently had to manually enter DNS server
addresses on non-Macs to resolve connectivity issues. This may be indicative
of a wider problem -- perhaps increased lag from many ISPs DNS return
systems.
 snip   more from WAMUG
-
My own browsing seems to have bad patches either for a whole session 
or part.  Entering my isp's dns numbers had good and bad effects.  It 
enabled smoother page getting for the most part, but my calls for 
streaming radio files from the BBC and NPR were delayed consistently.
Interestingly, when I used the RealPlayer browser itself, instead of 
Safari and Camino, the files were served up properly - and then I was 
able to access them in Safari and Camino consequently.I guess OS 
X caches them somehow.
I have experienced one session where the delay (stutter if you will) 
was removed by removing my isp's
numbers.
There appears to be no consistent fault and no consistent fix with my set-up.
---



Re: So you thought Mac was more expensive than a PC ?

2004-11-07 Thread Nancy McIntyre

At 5:04 AM +0800 7/11/04, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:

digest auth. Robert Howells wrote



Not true, according to Paul Murphy.
Read here :-

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/But-Theres-No-Software-for-the-Mac-
Right-37806.html


I got a 'sorry 404,file not on this server' returned for that url 
from Linux Insider :-(


Nancy M


Re: So you thought Mac was more expensive than a PC ?

2004-11-07 Thread Richard Kay

On 07/11/2004, at 1:32 PM, Nancy McIntyre wrote:


At 5:04 AM +0800 7/11/04, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:

digest auth. Robert Howells wrote



Not true, according to Paul Murphy.
Read here :-

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/But-Theres-No-Software-for-the-Mac-
Right-37806.html


I got a 'sorry 404,file not on this server' returned for that url from 
Linux Insider :-(


Nancy M


That link works fine on my iBook ... I just tried it ... looks like you 
might have a setup problem Nancy M.


rmkay



Re: strange Safari behaviour

2004-11-07 Thread Adam Lippiatt
I updated the MacOS to 10.3.6 and am still getting the double entry 
problem with Safari.


Adam
On 07/11/2004, at 12:03 PM, Vladimir James wrote:


Where I previously clicked on the URL, saw the address in the Safari
window, but received the message that Safari could not find the server,
then had to use the return key before being able to enter the site...

...with the 10.3.6 Update, I have had no problems of this type so far.

Vlad James

 some WAMUG comments ---

For the last few days each time I go to a website (from bookmarks, or
a link, or typed in manually) it does not connect and I get a message
telling me the server cannot be found. But if I try a second time it
connects.


 A wider problem? Of interesting note is that we are beginning to 
receive
reports from some users who have recently had to manually enter DNS 
server
addresses on non-Macs to resolve connectivity issues. This may be 
indicative

of a wider problem -- perhaps increased lag from many ISPs DNS return
systems.

 snip   more from WAMUG
-

My own browsing seems to have bad patches either for a whole session
or part.  Entering my isp's dns numbers had good and bad effects.  It
enabled smoother page getting for the most part, but my calls for
streaming radio files from the BBC and NPR were delayed consistently.
Interestingly, when I used the RealPlayer browser itself, instead of
Safari and Camino, the files were served up properly - and then I was
able to access them in Safari and Camino consequently.I guess OS
X caches them somehow.
I have experienced one session where the delay (stutter if you will)
was removed by removing my isp's
numbers.
There appears to be no consistent fault and no consistent fix with my 
set-up.

---


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Re: strange Safari behaviour

2004-11-07 Thread Greg Sharp
I also have found the problem still exits when I visited Version Tracker
using Safari. I think Apple may have fixed one particular problem but there
appears to be a bigger problem that can effect anyone based on similar
reports from Linux  Windows users. It might not be widespread but something
is happening behind the scenes

All the best
Greg

On 7/11/04 4:45 PM, Adam Lippiatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I updated the MacOS to 10.3.6 and am still getting the double entry
 problem with Safari.
 
 Adam



Re: strange Safari behaviour

2004-11-07 Thread Robert Howells



So, AS a matter of interest do the people who are still having trouble
have the DNS numbers of their ISP inserted in their Network TCP/ IP 
panel


Bob



On 07/11/2004, at 2:26 PM, Greg Sharp wrote:

I also have found the problem still exits when I visited Version 
Tracker
using Safari. I think Apple may have fixed one particular problem but 
there

appears to be a bigger problem that can effect anyone based on similar
reports from Linux  Windows users. It might not be widespread but 
something

is happening behind the scenes

All the best
Greg

On 7/11/04 4:45 PM, Adam Lippiatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I updated the MacOS to 10.3.6 and am still getting the double entry
problem with Safari.

Adam



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Re: strange Safari behaviour

2004-11-07 Thread Matt Morgan

It hasn't solved the problem for me either. I also have it with Firefox.

Matt.


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So you thought Mac was more expensive than a PC ?

2004-11-07 Thread Nancy McIntyre

from the article:

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/But-Theres-No-Software-for-the-Mac-Right-37806.html


Those developers, for example, who focused on replacing the player's 
imagination or intelligence with interactive graphics simply found no 
market among Mac buyers -- *most of whom are older and/or better 
educated than the people to whom those products sell.* (my emphasis)



Gosh!  Have I bought myself some of that? ;-)



Re: strange Safari behaviour

2004-11-07 Thread Greg Sharp
My Netgear WGR614 router is set to automatically use my ISP's DNS and all
my LAN machines have my ISP's DNS set manually on each machine.

Greg

On 7/11/04 5:41 PM, Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 So, AS a matter of interest do the people who are still having trouble
 have the DNS numbers of their ISP inserted in their Network TCP/ IP
 panel
 
 Bob



Re: Guitar Tablature Editor for Mac

2004-11-07 Thread Reg Whitely

Hi Ronni

Have they played together? I've got a Mark Knoffler playing with Chett  
Atkins CD. That's interesting.


Reg

On 6 Nov 2004, at 5:12pm, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Greg,

Thanks for the site, much appreciate it.
 I think they are looking for something like this.

http://www.tabledit.com/screen/screen_e.shtml#mac

I'm afraid I don't understand Tabs, I'm more into Classical Music,
but my favourite guitarists are Mark Knopfler  Tommy Emmanuel ... oh  
yeah!


Thanks again,
Ronni




On 06/11/2004, at 4:20 PM, Greg Satti wrote:


Hi Ronni,

Not sure if this is what your after, but have a look here:

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/GizmoGuitarTablatureManagerX/ 
screensho

t.shtml

Kind regards,
Greg Satti (sadly - musically challenged!!)
www.zytech.com.au
PO Box 758, Bunbury WA 6230
Ph: (08) 9721 1125
Fx: (08) 9721 1126
Mob: 0423 558 636
The online data storage  technology store


On 6/11/04 2:58 PM, Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Wamugers,

Does anyone know if there is a Guitar Tablature Editor for Mac's
similar to the 'Windows'  Power Tab Editor please?
http://www.power-tab.net

I have found TabLEdit http://www.tabledit.com/index.shtml
with TEFView.

I convinced my neighbours (who are learning Electric guitars) to buy  
a

new G5 iMac
and use GarageBand to mix  record their own music.
On their previous 'Yuk PC' they used Power Tab Editor for printing
guitar Tabs 
are upset that there is not a Mac version  not going to be.

Before they lynch me, or rush out to buy Virtual PC I would  
appreciate

any help!

Cheers,
Ronni
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Apple!


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Re: So you thought Mac was more expensive than a PC ?

2004-11-07 Thread Reg Whitely


On 7 Nov 2004, at 7:37am, Ronda Brown wrote:

Yes Bob,  I've been 'trying' to explain this to PC users for years 
. but . they don't listen to Mac people!
H,  'Windows Mentality'   I don't think we will ever change it 
... and perhaps we don't really want to ???


So the message is: Leave their mentality for them; let's develop ours 
further.


Regards
Reg



Re: Guitar Tablature Editor for Mac

2004-11-07 Thread Jon Bjorn
Chet likes to play with everyone. He did a CD with Tommy Emmanuel a couple
of years ago (The Day Finger Pickers Took Over the World)
Now what's the topic of this thread again?

Jon
On 7/11/04 8:59 PM, Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Have they played together? I've got a Mark Knoffler playing with Chett
 Atkins CD. That's interesting.
 
 Reg
 
 On 6 Nov 2004, at 5:12pm, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Greg,
 
 Thanks for the site, much appreciate it.
  I think they are looking for something like this.
 
 http://www.tabledit.com/screen/screen_e.shtml#mac
 
 I'm afraid I don't understand Tabs, I'm more into Classical Music,
 but my favourite guitarists are Mark Knopfler  Tommy Emmanuel ... oh
 yeah!
 
 Thanks again,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 
 On 06/11/2004, at 4:20 PM, Greg Satti wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Not sure if this is what your after, but have a look here:
 
 http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/GizmoGuitarTablatureManagerX/
 screensho
 t.shtml
 
 Kind regards,
 Greg Satti (sadly - musically challenged!!)
 www.zytech.com.au
 PO Box 758, Bunbury WA 6230
 Ph: (08) 9721 1125
 Fx: (08) 9721 1126
 Mob: 0423 558 636
 The online data storage  technology store
 
 
 On 6/11/04 2:58 PM, Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello Wamugers,
 
 Does anyone know if there is a Guitar Tablature Editor for Mac's
 similar to the 'Windows'  Power Tab Editor please?
 http://www.power-tab.net
 
 I have found TabLEdit http://www.tabledit.com/index.shtml
 with TEFView.
 
 I convinced my neighbours (who are learning Electric guitars) to buy
 a
 new G5 iMac
 and use GarageBand to mix  record their own music.
 On their previous 'Yuk PC' they used Power Tab Editor for printing
 guitar Tabs 
 are upset that there is not a Mac version  not going to be.
 
 Before they lynch me, or rush out to buy Virtual PC I would
 appreciate
 any help!
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 When Microsoft asks you, Where do you want to go today? Tell them,
 Apple!
 
 
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Re: Frequent ADSL disconnect

2004-11-07 Thread Dark Servant

Hi
As usual your email was helpful and informative.  I'm not exactly sure 
how frequent it occurs because the router will automatically 
re-establish a connection its-self and I'm not always at the computer.  
I'd say it occurs once or twice a week (that I'm aware of).  I still 
maintain sync upon disconnects (it's just the PPP that goes out).

I'm not really sure how to access the logs on the router.

Thanks
Ruben


Dark Servant wrote:

I'm running a Billion 5100 router with a 256/64 Dodo ADSL plan and 
I've noticed that every now and then disconnection occurs


Hi Ruben,

How often? Once a day, once a week, less often? 1 or 2 disconnections 
a month is normal. Disconnections can occur for the following reason

- Telstra doing work at the exchange
- Unplanned/planned issues at the ISP
- Interference on your specific telephone line
- Busted modem/router
- Busted ADSL port on the DSLAM at the exchange

If the disconnection is more regular, ie every few minutes, then I 
would look at something local, ie damaged phone cable, no filters on 
phones, dodgy filters.


Most of the time the PPP light just goes out and doesn't come back on 
till later but this time it was alternating to being on and off every 
now and then.


Again, how often is now and then? Do you lose sync as well, or just 
PPP connection? If just PPP connection, the logs on your router should 
tell you why it disconnected.


Only real reason for that setting is to save on costs though. I'm 
assuming while I'm disconnected the router is continually dialling up 
trying to get me a connection


ADSL does not make telephone calls, thus there is no charges for 
connecting/disconnecting. ADSL works on a different frequency to 
normal telephone calls.


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