Lost 1984 Mac intro video

[Rob Findlay]

"Never seen video footage of the introduction of the Macintosh in January
1984 was published for the first time on the Internet today. Renowned Mac
user Scott Knaster kept that Betamax video tape for 21 years, and German
media agency TextLab has unearthed this only surviving video tape of the
launch."

The site has been "slashdotted" into oblivion but they have posted a page of
mirror links to get the vid.

http://industrial-technology-and-witchcraft.de/

Way cool!
Rob

Re: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Shay Telfer]

The trick seems to be answering the phone quickly and then talking to a
person to tell them you want to be off their list. Our major problem is
the way our phone is set up there is a few second delay between when you
pick the phone up ( ie the line becomes active) and you can talk to the
other person, and the computer interpreted this as there being no one
home, and so hung up on us. Once we were able to talk to a person we
solved the problem but it took a while ( and some, in this case helpful,
discussions with telstra) to work out how to stop it.


Not sure if they work here in Australia, but you could try playing 
these three tones at the start of an answering machine message:




(Or playing them to everyone who rings you up, but it's probably 
easier to get the answering machine to do it).


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RE: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Hugh Griffiths]

The trick seems to be answering the phone quickly and then talking to a
person to tell them you want to be off their list. Our major problem is
the way our phone is set up there is a few second delay between when you
pick the phone up ( ie the line becomes active) and you can talk to the
other person, and the computer interpreted this as there being no one
home, and so hung up on us. Once we were able to talk to a person we
solved the problem but it took a while ( and some, in this case helpful,
discussions with telstra) to work out how to stop it.

Re : Reverse lookup?

[Robert Howells]

On 25/01/2005, at 1:07 PM, Hugh Griffiths wrote:



We have recently been called by a automated telephone system located in
India, whish is set up to keep a certain number of phone sales people
constantly on the phone. The way it works is that the system dials
countries
(by time zone) constantly 24x7, if the system gets an answer it then
looks for an phone sales person who is not working, and queues the call
to them. If there is no person ready, it just hangs up, marks the line
as live for a later redial and moves to the next number in its list.
Bloody irritating.



Yes !

Even more so when they use a voice with a light american accent to ask 
you

to hold and then connect the call to the Indian accent .

We had one !

Beware

Bob

RE: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Hugh Griffiths]

We have recently been called by a automated telephone system located in
India, whish is set up to keep a certain number of phone sales people
constantly on the phone. The way it works is that the system dials
countries 
(by time zone) constantly 24x7, if the system gets an answer it then
looks for an phone sales person who is not working, and queues the call
to them. If there is no person ready, it just hangs up, marks the line
as live for a later redial and moves to the next number in its list.
Bloody irritating.
Hugh

From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan
Hastings
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:02 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Re : Reverse lookup?

Speaking of automatic dialing, it was happening to us at one stage where
someone had the wrong number set for their dialup account. We got a lot
of
phone calls...

But, it wasn't malicious or anything


On 25/1/05 10:05 AM, "Robert Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 25/01/2005, at 9:50 AM, Jude wrote:
> 
 
 I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious
 invasion of privacy
>>> 
>>> A telephone number and address details " advertised " in a PUBLIC
>>> document
>>> can hardly be classed as PRIVATE 
>> 
>> 
>> And I have to say, I feel a bit as if my privacy should count for
>> something here. If I can prove harassment surely I should be given
the
>> chance to make it go away.
> 
> Privacy is one thing,  harassment is a totally different story

> YES ! You should be able to make it go away !
> 
>> 
>> I can't do the whistle thing because they usually hang up immediately
>> when we pick up. Just occasionally they don't, but this is impossible
>> to predict. Yesterday it was nine times, but mostly it happens in
>> multiples of three.
>> 
>> I don't think its kids because there is no giggling, and it has been
>> going on for far too long for the attention span of an average kid.
>> 
>> I rang Optus and they said we have to jump through a bunch of hoops
so
>> that they can get the process going of getting the nasty letter
>> written .
> 
> Yet another " advantage " of competition ! 
> It never used to take that much to get action while I was at Telstra .
> ( But it's 10 years ago !? )
> 
>  From your description I wonder though whether it is a person or some
> sort of automatic dialing machine .
> We used to get some of those , but in those days it did take a bit of
> work to track down the calling number , which was the hardest part.
> 
> I would hit Optus with a fixit or else demand , based on the premise
> that it is a network fault ,
> they will have to prove that it is not,
> and then hit the relevant Ombudsman because you are not getting any
> action.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
>> I'm just gonna call the cops.
>> 
>> thanks all
>> 
>> Jude
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Re: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Susan Hastings]

Speaking of automatic dialing, it was happening to us at one stage where
someone had the wrong number set for their dialup account. We got a lot of
phone calls...

But, it wasn't malicious or anything


On 25/1/05 10:05 AM, "Robert Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 25/01/2005, at 9:50 AM, Jude wrote:
> 
 
 I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious
 invasion of privacy
>>> 
>>> A telephone number and address details " advertised " in a PUBLIC
>>> document
>>> can hardly be classed as PRIVATE 
>> 
>> 
>> And I have to say, I feel a bit as if my privacy should count for
>> something here. If I can prove harassment surely I should be given the
>> chance to make it go away.
> 
> Privacy is one thing,  harassment is a totally different story 
> YES ! You should be able to make it go away !
> 
>> 
>> I can't do the whistle thing because they usually hang up immediately
>> when we pick up. Just occasionally they don't, but this is impossible
>> to predict. Yesterday it was nine times, but mostly it happens in
>> multiples of three.
>> 
>> I don't think its kids because there is no giggling, and it has been
>> going on for far too long for the attention span of an average kid.
>> 
>> I rang Optus and they said we have to jump through a bunch of hoops so
>> that they can get the process going of getting the nasty letter
>> written .
> 
> Yet another " advantage " of competition ! 
> It never used to take that much to get action while I was at Telstra .
> ( But it's 10 years ago !? )
> 
>  From your description I wonder though whether it is a person or some
> sort of automatic dialing machine .
> We used to get some of those , but in those days it did take a bit of
> work to track down the calling number , which was the hardest part.
> 
> I would hit Optus with a fixit or else demand , based on the premise
> that it is a network fault ,
> they will have to prove that it is not,
> and then hit the relevant Ombudsman because you are not getting any
> action.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
>> I'm just gonna call the cops.
>> 
>> thanks all
>> 
>> Jude
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Re: Reverse lookup?

[Shay Telfer]

Hi Bob,
Although my phone number is listed in the  telephone book, I do not 
want everyone I give that number to to have access to my address.


For example, I have my phone number marked on my house keys, so that 
if they are lost the finder can call me. I don't want anyone finding 
the keys to have free access to my house to take what they like!


Regards,

John Taylor


In the IT trade this is known as "Security through obscurity", which 
is generally taught to mean 'No security'


Have fun,
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Re : Reverse lookup?

[Jude]

. . . all it takes is 3 sucessful traces and they then send a 
warning letter, if they do any more after the warning letter, 
Telstra pass all the details over to the police who then charge the 
individual.




Its almost the same with Optus, but I have to log the calls for 
several days, and if they can't get a good trace - ie the guy hangs 
up immediately (?) then this could go on for a long time.


Which I feel is a stupid waste of time given that I know the number 
of the person and surely someone has a record of who he has rung. 
Ringing someone 9 times a day should be fairly obvious in his 
records.


Did you know the person doing it to you Kathy? Were you being 
threatened, or just harassed? The police told me it would have to be 
a lot more serious before they could do anything.


I have replied to Bob offlist and think this should go offlist from 
here on in - its not really mac related and I apologise to those 
getting spammed by it :)


I'm still happy to get any ideas anyone has!

cheers

Jude

Re: Reverse lookup?

[John Taylor]

On 25 Jan 2005, at 8:22 AM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 25/01/2005, at 8:06 AM, John Taylor wrote:



On 24 Jan 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jude wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a way to do a reverse lookup on a phone 
number in Australia?




Hi Jude,

I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious 
invasion of privacy


A telephone number and address details " advertised " in a PUBLIC 
document

can hardly be classed as PRIVATE 

and whether it is accessed via number , name or address details is 
irrelevant .


What is " a serious invasion of privacy " is the release into the 
PUBLIC ARENA
the details of any Phone service that the owner has contracted as a " 
Silent number ".


Hi Bob,
Although my phone number is listed in the  telephone book, I do not 
want everyone I give that number to to have access to my address.


For example, I have my phone number marked on my house keys, so that if 
they are lost the finder can call me. I don't want anyone finding the 
keys to have free access to my house to take what they like!


Regards,

John Taylor

Re: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Malcolm J McCallum]

That should be a great relief to you Jude !
Mac
On 25/01/2005, at 10:21 AM, Greg Sharp wrote:


On 25/1/05 1:05 PM, "Robert Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From your description I wonder though whether it is a person or some
sort of automatic dialing machine .

A recent trick being used by spammers/marketing people is to use an
automated system that will ring up a number at all sorts of times on
different days. They analyze the results to create profiles on when 
you are
most likely to be home and then on sell this information to other 
marketing

companies.


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Re: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Kathy Quinlan]

Robert Howells wrote:



Yet another " advantage " of competition ! 
It never used to take that much to get action while I was at Telstra . ( 
But it's 10 years ago !? )


With Telstra (I just had to do this) you ring a 1800 number, tell them 
about it, they put a trace on your line (basically log all incomming 
calls, and trace numbers with no caller ID) then when you get a phone 
call, you leave your receiver off hook for 10 minutes, not the time and 
date, all it takes is 3 sucessful traces and they then send a warning 
letter, if they do any more after the warning letter, Telstra pass all 
the details over to the police who then charge the individual.


Every hammers Telstra, but for the most, they do provide a good service.

Regards,
Kat.

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Re: Re : Reverse lookup?

[Greg Sharp]

On 25/1/05 1:05 PM, "Robert Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From your description I wonder though whether it is a person or some
> sort of automatic dialing machine .
A recent trick being used by spammers/marketing people is to use an
automated system that will ring up a number at all sorts of times on
different days. They analyze the results to create profiles on when you are
most likely to be home and then on sell this information to other marketing
companies.


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Re : Reverse lookup?

[Jude]

 Probably not the same as your problem, but a friend had a similar 
problem with frequent calls at all times.  After complaining, he 
found out it wasn't his neighbor, but automated calls from Charlie 
Garner Hospital.  His wife was a patient there and somehow their 
system was dialing at random.



Most of the time they are calling from a payphone - but sometimes 
they do call from a traceable number. How did your friend find out 
who it was that was calling? No one will tell me squat about this 
person. His privacy is very secure. The law should be proud.


Speaking of which, the police say there is nothing they can do. 
Privacy laws mean its not their domain - its federal, and the guy has 
to make specific threats and have the equipment/mental state to carry 
out the threats.


I know I could change my number, but it will then have to be silent 
(by order of Optus) and why the hell should I?


Sorry. Getting pretty off topic here. Just frustrated.

Re: X Install problems

[Antony N. Lord]

a) Is there a way to make a 10.3.7 CD from a 10.3 CD + Updaters


Four words: Clean Install With Archive. The installer program should 
show your existing HD with a yellow icon on it indicating that you 
need to click the to click the "Options" button. This takes you to 
the CIWA screen.


It turns out (after sleeping on it) my problem is that my CD is a 
10.3 UPDATER not installer so I need to go 10.2 -> 10.3


Sigh...

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Re : Reverse lookup?

[Robert Howells]

On 25/01/2005, at 9:50 AM, Jude wrote:



I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious 
invasion of privacy


A telephone number and address details " advertised " in a PUBLIC 
document

can hardly be classed as PRIVATE 



And I have to say, I feel a bit as if my privacy should count for 
something here. If I can prove harassment surely I should be given the 
chance to make it go away.


Privacy is one thing,  harassment is a totally different story  
YES ! You should be able to make it go away !




I can't do the whistle thing because they usually hang up immediately 
when we pick up. Just occasionally they don't, but this is impossible 
to predict. Yesterday it was nine times, but mostly it happens in 
multiples of three.


I don't think its kids because there is no giggling, and it has been 
going on for far too long for the attention span of an average kid.


I rang Optus and they said we have to jump through a bunch of hoops so 
that they can get the process going of getting the nasty letter 
written .


Yet another " advantage " of competition ! 
It never used to take that much to get action while I was at Telstra . 
( But it's 10 years ago !? )


From your description I wonder though whether it is a person or some 
sort of automatic dialing machine .
We used to get some of those , but in those days it did take a bit of 
work to track down the calling number , which was the hardest part.


I would hit Optus with a fixit or else demand , based on the premise 
that it is a network fault ,

they will have to prove that it is not,
and then hit the relevant Ombudsman because you are not getting any 
action.


Bob




I'm just gonna call the cops.

thanks all

Jude

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Re : Reverse lookup?

[Jude]

I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious 
invasion of privacy


A telephone number and address details " advertised " in a PUBLIC document
can hardly be classed as PRIVATE 



And I have to say, I feel a bit as if my privacy should count for 
something here. If I can prove harassment surely I should be given 
the chance to make it go away.


I can't do the whistle thing because they usually hang up immediately 
when we pick up. Just occasionally they don't, but this is impossible 
to predict. Yesterday it was nine times, but mostly it happens in 
multiples of three.


I don't think its kids because there is no giggling, and it has been 
going on for far too long for the attention span of an average kid.


I rang Optus and they said we have to jump through a bunch of hoops 
so that they can get the process going of getting the nasty letter 
written.


I'm just gonna call the cops.

thanks all

Jude

Re: Analogue Audio in port for G5

[Mark Secker]

though I don't have the pleasure of owning a G5 I was under the 
impression that it is a standard stereo line in mini phono plug


plain talk mikes  are condenser (powered) microphones  and their 
jacks are a little longer than standard mini phono.


best use a standard dynamic mic  and set your audio in to mono - or 
get a USB microphone (and select USB as your audio in)


The socket doesn't seem to fit an Apple plaintalk microphone 
(semi-transparent case, think it came with a G4 originally) ... is 
this kind of mic just too old, or is there some special connector I 
was supposed to know about?


Any advice gratefully appreciated,
Tobes.

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Re: X Install problems

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 23/01/2005, at 10:36 PM, Antony N. Lord wrote:

However booting from the 10.3 installer CD gives me "Fatal Signal : 
Illegal instruction" messages


OK, I've tried a new CD-ROM, new HD, checked the PRAM battery, reset 
CUDA all with the same problem.


I did the old unplug all the cards / ram and leave as such for an hour 
before reassembly - the machine now boots from CD.


X is still buggered so I went to do a reinstall (keeping user 
settings) but of course the version on my machine (10.3.7) is new than 
the CD (10.3) so it won't let me proceed.


a) Is there a way to make a 10.3.7 CD from a 10.3 CD + Updaters


Four words: Clean Install With Archive. The installer program should 
show your existing HD with a yellow icon on it indicating that you need 
to click the to click the "Options" button. This takes you to the CIWA 
screen.


You will need the appropriate amount of space available on your HD, of 
course (usually around 1.5 Gb), but your 10.3 Boot CD should be quite 
happy to do it. You will then reboot your computer and immediately 
apply all updaters, starting with the highest version combo updater you 
have.


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Analogue Audio in port for G5

[Tobes]

The socket doesn't seem to fit an Apple plaintalk microphone 
(semi-transparent case, think it came with a G4 originally) ... is this 
kind of mic just too old, or is there some special connector I was 
supposed to know about?


Any advice gratefully appreciated,
Tobes. 

Re: [OT] Microsoft and spyware

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 23/01/2005, at 3:44 PM, Stewart Woods wrote:

An interesting take on the latest  Microsoft anti-spyware suite on the  
Australian site:


"In theory, Microsoft AntiSpyware should get better over time. It's  
programmed to send reports back to Microsoft to improve and update  
spyware definitions."


Doesn't that make it spyware?  :-)

and this lovely gem:

"Microsoft seems to be on the right path to fixing the mess caused by  
the careless users, malicious programmers, unethical companies and  
vulnerable software."


Careless users?
Who do you suppose 'unethical companies' refers to?
and the 'vulnerable software' for which microsoft are supplying this  
solution?


Full review here:

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/ 
0,7204,12006223%5E15308%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html


Enjoy your day,

Stewart




I have already installed this thing on a couple of XP boxes, and  
already it is showing signs of being every bit as annoying as the  
spyware it is designed to remove. Within a day or so of installing it  
proudly announced it had installed an option which it had been told NOT  
to install in the first place, and everything else it does seems to be  
accompanied by a parade of annoying popup messages, similar to its evil  
cousin, Nortons Antivirus. I suppose it will be OK if it continues to  
do its job, as it seems to be doing for the moment, but the annoyance  
factor may to much to endure over time.



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Re: Reverse lookup?

[Robert Howells]

On 25/01/2005, at 8:06 AM, John Taylor wrote:



On 24 Jan 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jude wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a way to do a reverse lookup on a phone 
number in Australia?




Hi Jude,

I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious 
invasion of privacy


A telephone number and address details " advertised " in a PUBLIC 
document

can hardly be classed as PRIVATE 

and whether it is accessed via number , name or address details is 
irrelevant .


What is " a serious invasion of privacy " is the release into the 
PUBLIC ARENA
the details of any Phone service that the owner has contracted as a " 
Silent number ".


Bob

Re: Reverse lookup?

[John Taylor]

On 24 Jan 2005, at 4:16 PM, Jude wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a way to do a reverse lookup on a phone 
number in Australia?




Hi Jude,

I might be wrong, but I have always thought this to be a serious 
invasion of privacy and has been illegal for years. Reverse telephone 
number directories have only been used by police and security forces.


Regards,

John Taylor