Re: Logitech webcams?

[Robert Howells]

On 01/01/2007, at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hi:

I checked all the documentation and the web site and I don't see  
that logitech
webcams work with Mac OSX computers--however I visited 2 apple  
stores here in

Miami and the staff claim they do.

I am reluctant to make a purchase if I can't find the driver for  
Mac on the

Logitech web site.

Anyone have any ideas whether these products work with Macs?

Nat



According to this site some models do :-





Bob

Re: Logitech webcams?

[Paul Mulroney]

Hi everyone

On 02/01/2007, at 6:06 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:

I checked all the documentation and the web site and I don't see  
that logitech
webcams work with Mac OSX computers--however I visited 2 apple  
stores here in

Miami and the staff claim they do.

I am reluctant to make a purchase if I can't find the driver for  
Mac on the

Logitech web site.

Anyone have any ideas whether these products work with Macs?


I bought a Logitech QuickCam Express web cam, and purchased the  
iChatUSBcam driver, which works fine with iChatAV.  I also downloaded  
the maccam driver from the sourceforge website.  With that, I can use  
the camera in any quicktime-enabled app.


Hope this helps,
Regards,
Paul.

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groovy Japanese architects web site

[gary dorn]

FYI and interest
http://www.intentionallies.co.jp/content_normal.html
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ADSL speeds from Westnet

[Glenn Nicholas]

Hi everyone, happy new year!

Since there have been a number of posts on ADSL recently, thought I'd  
post my experience of the Westnet upgraded 8MB service.


I use iiNet ADSL2+ at home (Shenton Park, around 4.5km to exchange in  
Subiaco).  The peak speed I see *occasionally* is around 400KB/sec  
(as reported by Activity Monitor), which is around 4MB/sec.  But more  
often than not it is between 1-3MB/sec.  I don't keep records, but it  
does seem that the speed has been slowing down (ie.  less 4Mb peaks,  
and more often 1.5MB).


At the office (Shenton Park, 4km to Subiaco Exchange), I was on the  
1.5MB Westnet plan, and I used to see 150KB/sec on Activity Monitor,  
exactly as expected.  I've upgraded to the new 8MB plan as of 1/1,  
but am only seeing 160-170KB/sec at peak (ie. ~1.6MB-1.7MB).  I've  
asked Westnet if there is anything I need to tweak, but suspect it  
will come down to 'it depends on distance and link to exchange'.   
Suggests I either pay extra for 1.6-1.7MB, or downgrade to 1.5MB.


I double checked this using two Australian based speed test sites,  
which both confirmed around 1.2MB.  The links to the speed test sites  
are available on Westnet (go to Help, then How fast is broadband ADSL).


Would be nice to actually get something faster than 2-3MB.  But not  
keen on trying Amcom unless there was a good reason to expect it  
would be any different.


Regards,

Glenn Nicholas.
PublicityShip

Re: ADSL speeds from Westnet

[Adam Hewitt]

Firstly your numbers are all kinds of messed up. To change kbps into  
Mbps you multiply by 8, not 10, and its Mbps not MBps (megabits vs  
megabytes). I guess you are using 10 to take into account packet  
headers etc, however you use this conversion when going from Mbps  
down, not the other way around.


Without getting into really fine detail there is a limit to the speed  
you can get with a single tcp stream. Therefore you really need to be  
sending multiple streams in order to receive your full connection  
potential. This is the reason why bittorrent works so well (when  
there are enough people to download from) because you are downloading  
a single item from multiple (sometimes hundreds) of tcp streams. You  
can increase the amount possbile in a single stream by modifying your  
TCP Window Size however I am not sure how to do this in OSX


I am on 20Mbps ADSL2+ with iiNet and I have been able to download at  
>2MBps (yes MB) using multiple tcp streams over ftp. I could  
probably get faster than that by adjusting the tcp window size or  
increasing the number of threads, but 2MBps is quick enough for me.


Adam.

On 02/01/2007, at 1:48 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:


Hi everyone, happy new year!

Since there have been a number of posts on ADSL recently, thought  
I'd post my experience of the Westnet upgraded 8MB service.


I use iiNet ADSL2+ at home (Shenton Park, around 4.5km to exchange  
in Subiaco).  The peak speed I see *occasionally* is around 400KB/ 
sec (as reported by Activity Monitor), which is around 4MB/sec.   
But more often than not it is between 1-3MB/sec.  I don't keep  
records, but it does seem that the speed has been slowing down  
(ie.  less 4Mb peaks, and more often 1.5MB).


At the office (Shenton Park, 4km to Subiaco Exchange), I was on the  
1.5MB Westnet plan, and I used to see 150KB/sec on Activity  
Monitor, exactly as expected.  I've upgraded to the new 8MB plan as  
of 1/1, but am only seeing 160-170KB/sec at peak (ie.  
~1.6MB-1.7MB).  I've asked Westnet if there is anything I need to  
tweak, but suspect it will come down to 'it depends on distance and  
link to exchange'.  Suggests I either pay extra for 1.6-1.7MB, or  
downgrade to 1.5MB.


I double checked this using two Australian based speed test sites,  
which both confirmed around 1.2MB.  The links to the speed test  
sites are available on Westnet (go to Help, then How fast is  
broadband ADSL).


Would be nice to actually get something faster than 2-3MB.  But not  
keen on trying Amcom unless there was a good reason to expect it  
would be any different.


Regards,

Glenn Nicholas.
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vinyl to CD

[KEVIN Lock]

A friend has found an advert for a USB gizmo that can team up with a 
turntable and casette player to capture and burn CDs from  his 
collection @ about $130. I remember reading something on WAMUG 
about doing the same thing through the Mac without too much trouble. 
I can't find it in the archives.   Does anyone remember the procedure?


regards and happy New Year.

Kev

Re: vinyl to CD

[Lloyd White]

Hi Kev, 

Have a look at 
http://playlistmag.com/features/2005/05/digitize/index.php/?lsrc=mwweek-0523
 
I have used an ordinary turntable and amp and something like Audion. There
are lots of similar programs available.

But be prepared to spend the rest of your life playing through all your
records and tapes. There is no fast way of doing it - and you can probably
buy a remastered CD for $5!
Lloyd 



> A friend has found an advert for a USB gizmo that can team up with a
> turntable and casette player to capture and burn CDs from  his
> collection @ about $130. I remember reading something on WAMUG
> about doing the same thing through the Mac without too much trouble.
> I can't find it in the archives.   Does anyone remember the procedure?
> 
> regards and happy New Year.
> 
> Kev
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Re: ADSL speeds from Westnet

[Glenn Nicholas]

Thanks for that Adam.  I'm no network engineer, and I'm sure your  
math is spot on. But this is a user group, not a standards forum.  I  
think most of us realise there 1.5Mb, 8Mb and 24Mb (see - I got the  
caps right this time) speed broadband plans commonly available these  
days.   If I write 1.5Mb or 1.5MB when talking about broadband, I  
figure most end users will know what I'm talking about.


I wasn't multiplying by 8/10/whatever.  I've noticed that my 1.5Mb  
from Westnet shows up as around 150 in the OS X Activity Monitor ...  
therefore I figure 150KB/sec is close to 1.5Mb.  I know this is only  
a rough approximation, and if I was a network engineer ... well, I  
woudn't be for long :)  Network engineers get messed up about other  
things, but not packet crunching.


Since iiNet don't advertise a 20Mbps service, I figure you are on the  
24Mb plan, same as me (but with better packet conversions).  So I  
think you are saying you can download (reaches for slide rule, damn,  
no slide rule, makes another crude estimate) say 20Mb, or around 80%  
of the theoretical 24Mb.  But you're saying that only with Bit  
Torrent or similar P2P software can you get to that sort of level.   
The level I am seeing at home (say 15-20% of the maximum) is a long  
way off that (even allowing for my inevitable mathematical errors).


So, before you cheerfully correct my conversions again, lets move the  
discussion away from packets.  Is it the case that the upper ends of  
ADLS2+ (lets say 20-24Mb) are only available to the p2p / 'file  
sharing' crew? And the mere mortals who just use browsers & email are  
*usually* (and by that I mean typical, day to day use) going to get  
speeds around 2-4Mb?  Because browser & email traffic is always going  
to be single stream?


If that is the case, what is the point of trying the faster products,  
why not just get the best value 1.5Mb plan of the day?


Anyway, I'm no packet-hound, just interested in this as the user  
level.  What are the fastest speeds people are getting on ANY plan  
without BitTorrent etc?  Anyone getting lots more than 4Mb?


Glenn.
PublicityShip.

On 02/01/2007, at 2:04 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

Firstly your numbers are all kinds of messed up. To change kbps  
into Mbps you multiply by 8, not 10, and its Mbps not MBps  
(megabits vs megabytes). I guess you are using 10 to take into  
account packet headers etc, however you use this conversion when  
going from Mbps down, not the other way around.


Without getting into really fine detail there is a limit to the  
speed you can get with a single tcp stream. Therefore you really  
need to be sending multiple streams in order to receive your full  
connection potential. This is the reason why bittorrent works so  
well (when there are enough people to download from) because you  
are downloading a single item from multiple (sometimes hundreds) of  
tcp streams. You can increase the amount possbile in a single  
stream by modifying your TCP Window Size however I am not sure how  
to do this in OSX


I am on 20Mbps ADSL2+ with iiNet and I have been able to download  
at >2MBps (yes MB) using multiple tcp streams over ftp. I could  
probably get faster than that by adjusting the tcp window size or  
increasing the number of threads, but 2MBps is quick enough for me.


Adam.

On 02/01/2007, at 1:48 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:


Hi everyone, happy new year!

Since there have been a number of posts on ADSL recently, thought  
I'd post my experience of the Westnet upgraded 8MB service.


I use iiNet ADSL2+ at home (Shenton Park, around 4.5km to exchange  
in Subiaco).  The peak speed I see *occasionally* is around 400KB/ 
sec (as reported by Activity Monitor), which is around 4MB/sec.   
But more often than not it is between 1-3MB/sec.  I don't keep  
records, but it does seem that the speed has been slowing down  
(ie.  less 4Mb peaks, and more often 1.5MB).


At the office (Shenton Park, 4km to Subiaco Exchange), I was on  
the 1.5MB Westnet plan, and I used to see 150KB/sec on Activity  
Monitor, exactly as expected.  I've upgraded to the new 8MB plan  
as of 1/1, but am only seeing 160-170KB/sec at peak (ie.  
~1.6MB-1.7MB).  I've asked Westnet if there is anything I need to  
tweak, but suspect it will come down to 'it depends on distance  
and link to exchange'.  Suggests I either pay extra for 1.6-1.7MB,  
or downgrade to 1.5MB.


I double checked this using two Australian based speed test sites,  
which both confirmed around 1.2MB.  The links to the speed test  
sites are available on Westnet (go to Help, then How fast is  
broadband ADSL).


Would be nice to actually get something faster than 2-3MB.  But  
not keen on trying Amcom unless there was a good reason to expect  
it would be any different.


Regards,

Glenn Nicholas.
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Re: ADSL speeds from Westnet

[Adam Hewitt]

Sorry Glenn, I didn't mean to get stuck into you...as it turns out I  
am a network/systems engineer (well I am a project manager now, but  
have been an engineer traditionally), so I will try and leave that  
hat off for the time being :P


When I said 20Mbps, what I should have said was that I am on the  
24Mbps ADSL2+ Plan, but my ADSL syncs at ~20Mbps. I happen to live  
about 400mtrs from the exchange and according to the line tests I  
have ~700mtrs of cable between my modem and the DSLAM (yes, that  
means ~300mtrs of cable is sitting inside the exchange for some  
reason :S)...so my sync speeds are really really good.


You said that you are 4.5km from the exchange so I would expect you  
to sync somewhere around 10Mbps due to the distance (assuming the  
line quality is reasonable). With the 8Mbps ADSL plan at 4km I would  
expect you to sync at about 4-5Mbps. Of course it could be a lot  
worse if the line quality is bad or if you have bad cabling inside  
your house, or any other multitude of reasons, or possibly better if  
the cable is perfectso first off I would suggest you log into  
your ADSL modem/router and see what speed it says it has synced at.


As to the question of "the point", well lets just say that the  
average user isn't going to need 80GB of traffic per month  
either...so these plans, ie High Speed, High Download, are catered  
for those people who download movies, games or tv shows and these  
people will always be running multiple tcp streams. Even games dont  
require any more than 1.5Mbps ADSL. Of course this disregards the  
commercial side of offering these plans which is that it gives the  
ISP the ability to offer VoIP/Video-on-Demand/Games-on-Demand/ 
Streaming TV etc each on its own virtual connection...this is the way  
of the future, within the next 2 years you will do everything over  
your ADSL connection.


Oh and btw opening a single web page is actually a whole bunch of  
small tcp streams as each image is its own stream, plus music, flash  
etc. However generally each of the streams from a website is very  
small so you wont get maximum speed for each stream because it has  
finished downloading before it has a chance to ramp up the bandwidth.  
The best way to test your connection is to download a large file from  
your ISP's ftp server...preferably multiple instances of the same  
file at the same time...although this can be affected by the load on  
the server it gives you a pretty good benchmark.


Adam.

On 02/01/2007, at 3:32 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:

Thanks for that Adam.  I'm no network engineer, and I'm sure your  
math is spot on. But this is a user group, not a standards forum.   
I think most of us realise there 1.5Mb, 8Mb and 24Mb (see - I got  
the caps right this time) speed broadband plans commonly available  
these days.   If I write 1.5Mb or 1.5MB when talking about  
broadband, I figure most end users will know what I'm talking about.


I wasn't multiplying by 8/10/whatever.  I've noticed that my 1.5Mb  
from Westnet shows up as around 150 in the OS X Activity  
Monitor ... therefore I figure 150KB/sec is close to 1.5Mb.  I know  
this is only a rough approximation, and if I was a network  
engineer ... well, I woudn't be for long :)  Network engineers get  
messed up about other things, but not packet crunching.


Since iiNet don't advertise a 20Mbps service, I figure you are on  
the 24Mb plan, same as me (but with better packet conversions).  So  
I think you are saying you can download (reaches for slide rule,  
damn, no slide rule, makes another crude estimate) say 20Mb, or  
around 80% of the theoretical 24Mb.  But you're saying that only  
with Bit Torrent or similar P2P software can you get to that sort  
of level.  The level I am seeing at home (say 15-20% of the  
maximum) is a long way off that (even allowing for my inevitable  
mathematical errors).


So, before you cheerfully correct my conversions again, lets move  
the discussion away from packets.  Is it the case that the upper  
ends of ADLS2+ (lets say 20-24Mb) are only available to the p2p /  
'file sharing' crew? And the mere mortals who just use browsers &  
email are *usually* (and by that I mean typical, day to day use)  
going to get speeds around 2-4Mb?  Because browser & email traffic  
is always going to be single stream?


If that is the case, what is the point of trying the faster  
products, why not just get the best value 1.5Mb plan of the day?


Anyway, I'm no packet-hound, just interested in this as the user  
level.  What are the fastest speeds people are getting on ANY plan  
without BitTorrent etc?  Anyone getting lots more than 4Mb?


Glenn.
PublicityShip.

On 02/01/2007, at 2:04 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

Firstly your numbers are all kinds of messed up. To change kbps  
into Mbps you multiply by 8, not 10, and its Mbps not MBps  
(megabits vs megabytes). I guess you are using 10 to take into  
account packet headers etc, however you use this conversi

Re: ADSL speeds from Westnet

[KEVIN Lock]

I am with iinet and had a 1.5 ADSL plan.  The best speed I could get 
was/is 423, so when iinet upped their price for the 1.5 I dropped 
back to the 512 plan which I cannot reach anyway.  I am about 5 km 
from the exchange and iinet tell me that that is the main problem.


Note that after the previous confusing posts about speeds I haven't 
been brave enough to attach a Mb, mB or whatever to the speeds quoted.


cheers

Kev

Re: ADSL speeds from Westnet

[Peter Sealy]

How do I find my sync speed [using a Sipura 3000 ATA]?

Thanks




On Tue 2 Jan,, at 5:56 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

Sorry Glenn, I didn't mean to get stuck into you...as it turns out  
I am a network/systems engineer (well I am a project manager now,  
but have been an engineer traditionally), so I will try and leave  
that hat off for the time being :P


When I said 20Mbps, what I should have said was that I am on the  
24Mbps ADSL2+ Plan, but my ADSL syncs at ~20Mbps. I happen to live  
about 400mtrs from the exchange and according to the line tests I  
have ~700mtrs of cable between my modem and the DSLAM (yes, that  
means ~300mtrs of cable is sitting inside the exchange for some  
reason :S)...so my sync speeds are really really good.



.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA

Update on ADSL speed from Westnet

[Glenn Nicholas]

Hi all,

Quick follow up to my earlier note, I've been in touch with Westnet  
and they helped me log in to and reconfigure my ADSL modem to use the  
G.DMT protocol (the modem was on  Automatic).  This increased my sync  
speed (a lot), and I was able to download a file from the Westnet  
download vault at ...
760KB/sec ... or in equivalent terms to my 8Mb plan ... 5.94Mb  (do  
the math :)


 2007 is the year of the packet engineer :)

In lay terms, I'm paying for an 8Mb plan from Westnet, and have  
proved to myself I can get 5.9Mb of that in good conditions (which I  
am Ok with, perhaps if I was right next to the exchange I might go  
looking for the rest of my 8Mb).  And everything does seem faster.   
So I'll withdraw my suspicions about the value of the faster plans.


By the way, according to the Westnet tech the switch to G.DMT isn't  
Westnet specific.  So I'll try this on my home router as well.  Maybe  
if you're on ADSL and *not* getting what you think is a reasonable  
connection speed, perhaps revisit your modem setup with your ISP's  
tech support and ask about G.DMT.


Regards,

Glenn.
PublicityShip.






On 02/01/2007, at 1:48 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:


Hi everyone, happy new year!

Since there have been a number of posts on ADSL recently, thought  
I'd post my experience of the Westnet upgraded 8MB service.


I use iiNet ADSL2+ at home (Shenton Park, around 4.5km to  
exchange in Subiaco).  The peak speed I see *occasionally* is  
around 400KB/sec (as reported by Activity Monitor), which is  
around 4MB/sec.  But more often than not it is between 1-3MB/ 
sec.  I don't keep records, but it does seem that the speed has  
been slowing down (ie.  less 4Mb peaks, and more often 1.5MB).


At the office (Shenton Park, 4km to Subiaco Exchange), I was on  
the 1.5MB Westnet plan, and I used to see 150KB/sec on Activity  
Monitor, exactly as expected.  I've upgraded to the new 8MB plan  
as of 1/1, but am only seeing 160-170KB/sec at peak (ie.  
~1.6MB-1.7MB).  I've asked Westnet if there is anything I need to  
tweak, but suspect it will come down to 'it depends on distance  
and link to exchange'.  Suggests I either pay extra for  
1.6-1.7MB, or downgrade to 1.5MB.


I double checked this using two Australian based speed test  
sites, which both confirmed around 1.2MB.  The links to the speed  
test sites are available on Westnet (go to Help, then How fast is  
broadband ADSL).


Would be nice to actually get something faster than 2-3MB.  But  
not keen on trying Amcom unless there was a good reason to expect  
it would be any different.


Regards,

Glenn Nicholas.
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Re: Logitech webcams?

[Stephen Chape]

I bought one (Logitech Quickcam) about 3 months ago to use with Skype.
I bought it from Arrow so they could not tell me if it would work  
with a Mac.
However once I got it home and opened the pack I saw that there were  
both Windows & Mac software on the CD.
I plugged into a USB port thinking that a Mac usually does not need  
drivers anyway  plug & play and all that.

Nothing ... zilch 
So I installed the Mac software and restarted the Mac.
It got to the blue screen and no further.
Pulled the power and startd again ... got to Mac logo and froze.
About 2 hours later I had managed to uninstall (with serious  
difficulty) the Logitech software.

However it took about 5 more starts before it would behave correctly.
I took the bloody thing back the next day and got a refund.

Now all this may have beeb exclusive to me ... but I just don't  
know.



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Hi:

I checked all the documentation and the web site and I don't see  
that logitech
webcams work with Mac OSX computers--however I visited 2 apple  
stores here in

Miami and the staff claim they do.

I am reluctant to make a purchase if I can't find the driver for  
Mac on the

Logitech web site.

Anyone have any ideas whether these products work with Macs?

Nat

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Re: ADSL speeds & CABLE distance

[Robert Howells]

On 02/01/2007, at 2:56 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

Sorry Glenn, I didn't mean to get stuck into you...as it turns out  
I am a network/systems engineer (well I am a project manager now,  
but have been an engineer traditionally), so I will try and leave  
that hat off for the time being :P


When I said 20Mbps, what I should have said was that I am on the  
24Mbps ADSL2+ Plan, but my ADSL syncs at ~20Mbps. I happen to live  
about 400mtrs from the exchange and according to the line tests I  
have ~700mtrs of cable between my modem and the DSLAM (yes, that  
means ~300mtrs of cable is sitting inside the exchange for some  
reason :S)...



EXPLANATION :

Your line tests would have determined the actual cable length
to get from
the Exchange out to the Distribution point  commonly called a  
Pillar or a cabinet ...
then from the Distribution point back via the street cable to your  
house ,
which might in fact include crossing under a road twice as well as  
travel down the street.


The shortest cable length that anybody could   f l u ke   would be if  
they lived alongside

the distribution Pillar that was nearest to the exchange.

Now , somewhere else in this thread the question was asked ,
Why the faster speed if you could only practically achieve a maximum  
equivalent of 1.5 MB ?


A  faster speed will be achieved if ever the telco's can agree to pay  
the cost of

Fibre to the Node ( read Pillar or Cabinet )

At the moment that is a very political subject ...
Suppliers like Westnet and IInet have invested in DSLAMS at the  
exchanges ,
which to the best of my knowledge would become redundant ... read of  
NO value .


Telstra who had a plan to provide Fibre expect to get a commercial  
return for the Investment .


AND with the government in the MIX .   who knows if or when it  
will ever get sorted out.



Happy new year to all


Bob














so my sync speeds are really really good.

You said that you are 4.5km from the exchange so I would expect you  
to sync somewhere around 10Mbps due to the distance (assuming the  
line quality is reasonable). With the 8Mbps ADSL plan at 4km I  
would expect you to sync at about 4-5Mbps. Of course it could be a  
lot worse if the line quality is bad or if you have bad cabling  
inside your house, or any other multitude of reasons, or possibly  
better if the cable is perfectso first off I would suggest you  
log into your ADSL modem/router and see what speed it says it has  
synced at.


As to the question of "the point", well lets just say that the  
average user isn't going to need 80GB of traffic per month  
either...so these plans, ie High Speed, High Download, are catered  
for those people who download movies, games or tv shows and these  
people will always be running multiple tcp streams. Even games dont  
require any more than 1.5Mbps ADSL. Of course this disregards the  
commercial side of offering these plans which is that it gives the  
ISP the ability to offer VoIP/Video-on-Demand/Games-on-Demand/ 
Streaming TV etc each on its own virtual connection...this is the  
way of the future, within the next 2 years you will do everything  
over your ADSL connection.


Oh and btw opening a single web page is actually a whole bunch of  
small tcp streams as each image is its own stream, plus music,  
flash etc. However generally each of the streams from a website is  
very small so you wont get maximum speed for each stream because it  
has finished downloading before it has a chance to ramp up the  
bandwidth. The best way to test your connection is to download a  
large file from your ISP's ftp server...preferably multiple  
instances of the same file at the same time...although this can be  
affected by the load on the server it gives you a pretty good  
benchmark.


Adam.

On 02/01/2007, at 3:32 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:

Thanks for that Adam.  I'm no network engineer, and I'm sure your  
math is spot on. But this is a user group, not a standards forum.   
I think most of us realise there 1.5Mb, 8Mb and 24Mb (see - I got  
the caps right this time) speed broadband plans commonly available  
these days.   If I write 1.5Mb or 1.5MB when talking about  
broadband, I figure most end users will know what I'm talking about.


I wasn't multiplying by 8/10/whatever.  I've noticed that my 1.5Mb  
from Westnet shows up as around 150 in the OS X Activity  
Monitor ... therefore I figure 150KB/sec is close to 1.5Mb.  I  
know this is only a rough approximation, and if I was a network  
engineer ... well, I woudn't be for long :)  Network engineers get  
messed up about other things, but not packet crunching.


Since iiNet don't advertise a 20Mbps service, I figure you are on  
the 24Mb plan, same as me (but with better packet conversions).   
So I think you are saying you can download (reaches for slide  
rule, damn, no slide rule, makes another crude estimate) say 20Mb,  
or around 80% of the theoretical 24Mb.  But you're saying that  
only with Bit To

Re: groovy Japanese architects web site

[Paul van der Mey]

That is stunning!

And highly interactive...

On 02/01/2007, at 12:09 PM, gary dorn wrote:


FYI and interest
http://www.intentionallies.co.jp/content_normal.html
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Re: ADSL speeds from Westnet

[Stephen Chape]

Huh !!!
I thought 1012 Kb = 1 Mb
So wouldn't you have to multiply by approx 1000 ?



On 02/01/2007, at 2:04 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

Firstly your numbers are all kinds of messed up. To change kbps  
into Mbps you multiply by 8, not 10, and its Mbps not MBps  
(megabits vs megabytes). I guess you are using 10 to take into  
account packet headers etc, however you use this conversion when  
going from Mbps down, not the other way around.


Without getting into really fine detail there is a limit to the  
speed you can get with a single tcp stream. Therefore you really  
need to be sending multiple streams in order to receive your full  
connection potential. This is the reason why bittorrent works so  
well (when there are enough people to download from) because you  
are downloading a single item from multiple (sometimes hundreds) of  
tcp streams. You can increase the amount possbile in a single  
stream by modifying your TCP Window Size however I am not sure how  
to do this in OSX


I am on 20Mbps ADSL2+ with iiNet and I have been able to download  
at >2MBps (yes MB) using multiple tcp streams over ftp. I could  
probably get faster than that by adjusting the tcp window size or  
increasing the number of threads, but 2MBps is quick enough for me.


Adam.

On 02/01/2007, at 1:48 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:


Hi everyone, happy new year!

Since there have been a number of posts on ADSL recently, thought  
I'd post my experience of the Westnet upgraded 8MB service.


I use iiNet ADSL2+ at home (Shenton Park, around 4.5km to exchange  
in Subiaco).  The peak speed I see *occasionally* is around 400KB/ 
sec (as reported by Activity Monitor), which is around 4MB/sec.   
But more often than not it is between 1-3MB/sec.  I don't keep  
records, but it does seem that the speed has been slowing down  
(ie.  less 4Mb peaks, and more often 1.5MB).


At the office (Shenton Park, 4km to Subiaco Exchange), I was on  
the 1.5MB Westnet plan, and I used to see 150KB/sec on Activity  
Monitor, exactly as expected.  I've upgraded to the new 8MB plan  
as of 1/1, but am only seeing 160-170KB/sec at peak (ie.  
~1.6MB-1.7MB).  I've asked Westnet if there is anything I need to  
tweak, but suspect it will come down to 'it depends on distance  
and link to exchange'.  Suggests I either pay extra for 1.6-1.7MB,  
or downgrade to 1.5MB.


I double checked this using two Australian based speed test sites,  
which both confirmed around 1.2MB.  The links to the speed test  
sites are available on Westnet (go to Help, then How fast is  
broadband ADSL).


Would be nice to actually get something faster than 2-3MB.  But  
not keen on trying Amcom unless there was a good reason to expect  
it would be any different.


Regards,

Glenn Nicholas.
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Re: vinyl to CD

[Stephen Chape]

What about the applications Audio Hijack and LineIn ?
I have heard of them but not used them.
I think they are both free downloads, but Audio Hijack is $16 to  
register.

You should only then need the appropriate cables.

On 02/01/2007, at 1:40 PM, KEVIN Lock wrote:

A friend has found an advert for a USB gizmo that can team up with  
a turntable and casette player to capture and burn CDs from  his  
collection @ about $130. I remember reading something on WAMUG  
about doing the same thing through the Mac without too much  
trouble. I can't find it in the archives.   Does anyone remember  
the procedure?


regards and happy New Year.

Kev

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