Fwd: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 Vista?

2007-09-21 Thread Ronda Brown

Update to WAMUG for anyone who finds themselves with this same problem.

First I tried to install by downloading the Vista Compatible version  
directly from the website, inserted my Retail CD in the CD drive  
before installation as per instructions.
But, the 'sticker_update_1.2.exe' would not recognise the CD was in  
the drive and therefore  no installation.


So I then went to https://ca.mcafee.com/root/login.asp  logged  
into My Account (which had been created when I initially installed  
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in WindowsXP).
Downloaded the file from there (then turned off Windows Firewall) and  
installed McAfee without any troubles.


So now Windows Vista VM in Parallels is 'Safe'  I hope!

Cheers,
Ronni

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From: Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 September 2007 1:53:30 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007  Vista?

Hi again Adam  WAMUGers,

Well, I'm confused now. Some sites are saying McAfee Internet  
Security Suite 2007 IS compatible with Vista,

but my Vista Ultimate is saying 'It is not Compatible'?

http://internet-security-suite-review.toptenreviews.com/

But now I have found this:
http://ca.mcafee.com/vista/

If purchased from retail, you can download the Vista compatible  
version directly from this website by clicking here.
 You must have retail CD in the PC´s CD drive before installation  
starts.

Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista- 
compatible upgrade.
If user already has XP installed, it will be downloaded and  
installed via automatic upgrade.
When you upgrade your operating system to Vista, McAfee software  
will automatically upgrade and work – seamlessly for you.


Well, we shall see?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 21/09/2007, at 1:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Thanks Adam,

This time I made sure I had Windows Firewall turned off before I  
tried to install McAfee.
Windows Compatibility Tool (or whatever it's called) opened this  
time  alerted me to 'this software is not compatible with Vista'.

Windows has no known fix for it.

I will keep searching the McAfee site  hopefully have an  
update for Vista somewhere?


Thanks again, I appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ronni

On 21/09/2007, at 1:11 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

I don't know about McAfee specifically however I am on the beta  
testing for
a couple of Vista Security Suites (eset and agnitum outpost) and  
it seems
that the security architecture of Vista has required an almost  
complete
rewrite for most of the security suites and it has left most of  
them well

behind in production.

I have tried a few of them and they are either not compatible at  
all or they

are so buggy that it makes them useless.

One thing to make sure of is that you disabled the windows  
firewall before
you installed it as it may be that it is clashing (and I know for  
a fact

that a majority of them do *not* disable the Windows Firewall during
installation).

Adam.


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From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf  
Of Ronda

Brown
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 12:44 PM
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Subject: McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007  Vista?

Hi WAMUGers,

I have the latest Parallels v3-5160 and had WindowsXP running with
McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 installed, perfectly.

I then decided to erase WindowsXP VM and install Windows Vista
Ultimate in Parallels  yep, everything went well and Vista was
working.
It is slower than WindowsXP and is heavy on CPU and my MacBook Pro
(2.4 GHz / 3GB/ 800MHz/ 160GB HD) runs hotter.

I then tried to install McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007 in
Vista . oh dear  not a good idea.
It seemed to complete it's installation and then Vista asks to be
restarted, which I did . then all Hell broke loose, Vista  
blocks

some startup items and then says it has a 'Critical Error' and will
shutdown.
But, It won't shutdown, it won't do anything  I had to just  
Quit

Parallels.

I downloaded McAfee Removal tool, but Vista would not stay working
for me to uninstall McAfee.
I eventually managed to start Vista Ultimate in Safe Mode  was  
able

to uninstall McAfee Internet Security Suite 2007.

Have you heard of anyone that has been able to install  run McAfee
Internet Security Suite 2007 in Vista?
I understood it was compatible with Vista .. On the box I  
notice

it does not mention Vista ;-(
I've searched and searched the Internet  McAfee's support for an
answer, to no avail.
I think there must be an update for Vista, but I'm damned if I can
locate one.

Failing this, I guess I will have to install the 'Kaspersky  
Internet

security' that Parallels has under its 'Actions' menu.
This of course will cost me more dollars!
Or else re-install WindowsXP in Parallels.

Thanks for any information regarding this, I will appreciate it as
always.

Cheers,

Ronni who is focused on my 

Why I won't be buying any more iPods

2007-09-21 Thread Matthew Healey
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/customers-ask-is- 
apple-going-rotten/


The short version, is that Apple purposefully broke a LOT of third  
party accessories so as to force users to purchase Apple branded  
replacements. Apple seems to be getting greedy these days, and  
personally I don't like where they are going.


I really do hope I am wrong.

-  Matt

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Re: iPhone locking in Australia

2007-09-21 Thread Neil Houghton
Nice thought Matt - I would be worried however that Oz being such a small
market  all they might just postpone the launch while they worked out how
to stitch up the right sort of deal - remember how long we had to wait for
the Oz Itunes Store while the rest of the world merrily bought music :(

Hopefully not!


Cheers


Neil
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on 21/9/07 7:45 PM, Matthew Healey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I AM NOT A LAWYER!
 
 I have been looking around at the laws regarding locking the iPhone
 to a specific network and have come across some interesting
 information. It came to me that it may be illegal in Australia for
 Apple to require the use of a particular provider because the iPhone
 needs to be purchased outright.
 
 All phones in Oz that are locked to a network are subsidized by the
 carrier. This is apparently legal.
 
 The iPhone has to be purchased outright and is not subsidized by the
 carrier.
 
 Here is the specific language...
 
 
 ---
 Third line forcing
 
 Third line forcing is a specific form of exclusive dealing prohibited
 outright by the Trade Practices Act. It is not subject to the
 substantial lessening of competition test. It involves the supply of
 goods or services on condition that the purchaser buys goods or
 services from a particular third party, or a refusal to supply
 because the purchaser will not agree to that condition.
 
 Examples of third line forcing that the ACCC has stopped include:
 
 a lender who, as a condition of loans, required borrowers to take out
 loan insurance with a nominated insurance company
 a car dealer who, as a condition of sales or as a condition of
 getting attractive trade-ins or discounts, required intending buyers
 to borrow from a nominated lender
 a quarry company, whose manager offered cartage work to people on
 condition that they bought a truck from a specified dealer, who paid
 the manager a Œspotter¹s fee¹.
 
 
 -
 
 The short answer is that Apple may not be allowed to lock the iPhone
 to a particular network.
 
 :-)
 
 - Matt
 
 
 
 
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iPhone locking in Australia

2007-09-21 Thread Matthew Healey

Hi Everyone,

I AM NOT A LAWYER!

I have been looking around at the laws regarding locking the iPhone  
to a specific network and have come across some interesting  
information. It came to me that it may be illegal in Australia for  
Apple to require the use of a particular provider because the iPhone  
needs to be purchased outright.


All phones in Oz that are locked to a network are subsidized by the  
carrier. This is apparently legal.


The iPhone has to be purchased outright and is not subsidized by the  
carrier.


Here is the specific language...

 
---

Third line forcing

Third line forcing is a specific form of exclusive dealing prohibited  
outright by the Trade Practices Act. It is not subject to the  
substantial lessening of competition test. It involves the supply of  
goods or services on condition that the purchaser buys goods or  
services from a particular third party, or a refusal to supply  
because the purchaser will not agree to that condition.


Examples of third line forcing that the ACCC has stopped include:

a lender who, as a condition of loans, required borrowers to take out  
loan insurance with a nominated insurance company
a car dealer who, as a condition of sales or as a condition of  
getting attractive trade-ins or discounts, required intending buyers  
to borrow from a nominated lender
a quarry company, whose manager offered cartage work to people on  
condition that they bought a truck from a specified dealer, who paid  
the manager a ‘spotter’s fee’.


 
-


The short answer is that Apple may not be allowed to lock the iPhone  
to a particular network.


:-)

- Matt




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Re: iPhone locking in Australia

2007-09-21 Thread X.Ray.Wa


have a look at this video from NBC about using any network in the U.S

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20424880/

The cost of the phone here would be soo expensive I dont think it will be  
as popular

compare to the rest of the world

Ray

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:00:56 +0800, Neil Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Nice thought Matt - I would be worried however that Oz being such a small
market  all they might just postpone the launch while they worked out  
how
to stitch up the right sort of deal - remember how long we had to wait  
for

the Oz Itunes Store while the rest of the world merrily bought music :(


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Re: Why I won't be buying any more iPods

2007-09-21 Thread J Philippe Chaperon

Hi everyone,

Thanks Matt for pointing out this Web address. After reading the article my
worst fears were confirmed. It's been some time now that I have been
observing the way Apple was going about its business. And yes, it does
appear to me that they are emulating M$ by slowly strangulating 3rd party
manufacturers/software producers.

I have a suggestion for Apple: Use a boa constrictor symbol for their next
version of the Mac OS instead of the usual feline characters. That would
seem more appropriate.

Maybe they are becoming a bit too successful, and hence the 'cocky'
attitude? I intend purchasing a lap-top sometimes in late November, and my
initial thought was for a MacBook, of course, but little by little my
allegiance to Apple is being fritted-away. First was the purchase of a
third-party mouse which is more reliable that the mighty-mouse I purchased
less that 1 year ago and used for less than 3 months. That was the first
time ever I purchased a non-Apple device when there is availabe an Apple
one! And now comes my questioning of the lap-top brand  Just hoping I do
not fall on the dark side - may the force be with me!!

Have a nice week-end all!

Philippe C.

Peter H., I have not forgotten you and will respond privately once I have
determined what exactly I can do. Whatever it is will be on a totally
voluntary basis though.



on 21/9/07 7:26 PM, Matthew Healey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/customers-ask-is-
 apple-going-rotten/
 
 The short version, is that Apple purposefully broke a LOT of third
 party accessories so as to force users to purchase Apple branded
 replacements. Apple seems to be getting greedy these days, and
 personally I don't like where they are going.
 
 I really do hope I am wrong.
 
 -  Matt
 
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Re: Why I won't be buying any more iPods

2007-09-21 Thread Dark1
It's a shame to learn Apple have taken things a step further.  I know  
it was absolute hell trying to get them to take responsibility for a  
design flaw (which frequently resulted in computer freezes) in the G5  
1.8.  Rather than admitting the problem with all models of that  
computer using the upgraded ATI card built to order they turned  
customers away for half a year till they admitted to the problem and  
then took a long time to build a solution.


This time I really feel they have crossed the line.  It's a shame to  
learn this after just buying a new classic ipod.  If they won't back  
off then I'll wait till my warranty runs out before I hack my ipod to  
run 3rd party addons.


Ruben

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/customers-ask-is- 
apple-going-rotten/


The short version, is that Apple purposefully broke a LOT of third  
party accessories so as to force users to purchase Apple branded  
replacements. Apple seems to be getting greedy these days, and  
personally I don't like where they are going.


I really do hope I am wrong.

-  Matt

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Re: Why I won't be buying any more iPods

2007-09-21 Thread Paul Kitchener

Matthew Healey wrote:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/customers-ask-is-apple-going-rotten/ 



The short version, is that Apple purposefully broke a LOT of third 
party accessories so as to force users to purchase Apple branded 
replacements. Apple seems to be getting greedy these days, and 
personally I don't like where they are going.


I really do hope I am wrong.


Hi all,

As I haven't spent any money on the products in question and I don't get 
excited over games and ringtones, I guess I'm not too qualified to say a 
lot.

Of course I wont let that stop me! ;-)

Am I wrong or are _some_ of the complaints a bit like complaining that 
new iPods do not have SCSI connectors on them or MacBooks can't connect 
to BNC network cables and whats with the lack of a floppy drive?


Backwards compatibility is *nice* but it is new features we buy for is 
it not?


While reading comments on that page I found it slightly amusing how 
angered/disillusioned folk say things like 'I wont be buying any more 
Apple products' they then go on to say something like 'till they 
change them more to my liking'. Hardly seems like news of defectors.
Just like there weren't many defectors to Soviet Russia as it did not 
make for much of an alternative.
I can see the headline now: 'Zune, Zen and Walkman sales expected to 
increase by dozens worldwide!'


Have Fun
Paul (still fuming over the lack of a crank-start on my 2000 model Falcon)

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Re: Why I won't be buying any more iPods

2007-09-21 Thread Matthew Healey

On 22/09/2007, at 9:25 AM, Paul Kitchener wrote:

Am I wrong or are _some_ of the complaints a bit like complaining  
that new iPods do not have SCSI connectors on them or MacBooks  
can't connect to BNC network cables and whats with the lack of a  
floppy drive?


That's not really the case here...

Basically Apple removed functionality from the new iPods that doesn't  
improve the product in any way. They are simply sticking a toll-booth  
on the highway so they can collect a tax. They are not improving the  
road in any way.


Also, the Made For iPod sticker is now worthless because Apple  
broke the spec. All those video accessories that used to work, are  
now broken on the new iPods.


- Matt

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Re: Why I won't be buying any more iPods

2007-09-21 Thread Paul Kitchener

Matthew Healey wrote:

On 22/09/2007, at 9:25 AM, Paul Kitchener wrote:

Am I wrong or are _some_ of the complaints a bit like complaining 
that new iPods do not have SCSI connectors on them or MacBooks can't 
connect to BNC network cables and whats with the lack of a floppy drive?


That's not really the case here...

Basically Apple removed functionality from the new iPods that doesn't 
improve the product in any way. They are simply sticking a toll-booth 
on the highway so they can collect a tax. They are not improving the 
road in any way.


Also, the Made For iPod sticker is now worthless because Apple broke 
the spec. All those video accessories that used to work, are now 
broken on the new iPods.


Hi Matt,

I guess what I'm suggesting is a question; do the old features cause 
issues with new designs? Could they hold development back?

That is the usual argument against backwards compatibility anyway.
I know there is more to this than just backwards compatibility but it 
does seem to be the bulk of the issue.


Take the iPod games for instance.
Could it be like the situation we had with OS 9 vs OS X versions of 
software? As not all the first OS X versions of software were an 
improvement over the last OS 9 versions, many were identical in function 
and some even had *less*.
However subsequent OS X versions of those software were usually 
improvements.


All this coming from a 'late adopter' like myself seems too much like 
hypocrisy so I think I'll get out of the kitchen, till later ;-)


Cheers
Paul

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Re: Mail attachments on the Mac

2007-09-21 Thread Allen
Sorry if this is too late to help but I have been using a mail plugin  
called Mail Attachments Iconizer 1.3 fromhttp://lokisw.com which  
forces any attachments to an icon at the end of the msg and stops  
them appearing opened in the text . Works well for me


 Allen

On 14/09/2007, at 4:20 PM, David Nicholas wrote:

Some of my recipients are having problems with receiving my mail  
attachments.


My picture files - jpg etc - display within the message rather than  
as a named attachment at the end.  Doc files however display as  
standard attachments at the end.


I have tracked this down to a setting in Mail where apparently  
there is a choice between inline and attachment.  My default is  
currently


Content-Disposition: inline;

Does anybody know how I can change this to default to   Content- 
Disposition: attachment;


It has become a problem because a Toastmaster International  
recipient in California says they can't open a page I scanned and  
sent as an attached file.  But it displays in the body of the message.





David Nicholas








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