APOLOGY

2008-06-15 Thread Stuart Evans
Hi all,

My apologies for one of my posts yesterday.
I replied to a digest and didn't delete all the posts from the digest.
I know we all have 'cut and paste' moments but I'll be more diligent in
future!

Cheers,
Stuart

 


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Re: MacBooks for Teachers WA

2008-06-15 Thread Stuart Evans
Hello WAMUGers,

Many thanks to everyone who has replied with positive feedback to my  
question. I appreciate it greatly, and feel sure that now my Son-n-Law will
make  
the right decision and get a MacBook.

He is very pleased with all the positives that we have received and  
finally believes that it is the way to go.

I have told him I will install Parallels and create a VM with Vista  
Ultimate on his MacBook when he receives it and he will then have The  
Best Of Both Worlds!

Once again many thanks for all your help. If I need more assistance, I  
know who to ask ;-)
Thank you.


Hi Ronni,

I don't know that you can include 'Windows Vista' in a comment that says
'Best of Both Worlds'!!! ;-)

Anyway - I would recommend you don't install Vista Ultimate. If he is going
to use his MacBook on a DET school network
then it is best if you install Windows XP Pro. If you do, then even if there
are issues in future he can get support 
from Customer Services just by saying I'm using my Windows XP Notebook
than by trying to explain that he has Vista Ultimate
running on a Mac! 
Vista may actually work - but if it doesn't work with the school servers
because of login scripts or group policies then it 
will be impossible to get support and that makes it a painful exercise.
Technically you should be able to get a copy of Windows XP Pro OEM
as long as it is installed within 90 days of purchase (it may actually be 30
days now).

Cheers,
Stuart


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Re: MacBooks for Teachers WA

2008-06-15 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Stuart,

On 15/06/2008, at 2:17 PM, Stuart Evans wrote:


Hello WAMUGers,

Many thanks to everyone who has replied with positive feedback to my
question. I appreciate it greatly, and feel sure that now my Son-n- 
Law will

make

the right decision and get a MacBook.

He is very pleased with all the positives that we have received and
finally believes that it is the way to go.

I have told him I will install Parallels and create a VM with Vista
Ultimate on his MacBook when he receives it and he will then have The
Best Of Both Worlds!

Once again many thanks for all your help. If I need more  
assistance, I

know who to ask ;-)
Thank you.


Hi Ronni,

I don't know that you can include 'Windows Vista' in a comment that  
says

'Best of Both Worlds'!!! ;-)


I agree completely Stuart, I should wash my mouth out with soap ... it  
was actually the words of my Son-n-Law ;-)
I'm trying very hard to get him to come over to Macs, so I give him a  
bit of latitude every now and then.


Anyway - I would recommend you don't install Vista Ultimate. If he  
is going

to use his MacBook on a DET school network
then it is best if you install Windows XP Pro. If you do, then even  
if there
are issues in future he can get support from Customer Services just  
by saying I'm using my Windows XP Notebook

than by trying to explain that he has Vista Ultimate running on a Mac!
Vista may actually work - but if it doesn't work with the school  
servers

because of login scripts or group policies then it
will be impossible to get support and that makes it a painful  
exercise.

Technically you should be able to get a copy of Windows XP Pro OEM
as long as it is installed within 90 days of purchase (it may  
actually be 30

days now).


I have Vista Ultimate installed in Parallels on my MacBook Pro and it  
functions fine (not that I use it really,I just start it up so it does  
all it's updating  security downloads, virus updates etc, which takes  
forever. When it eventually finishes doing it's updating I shut it  
down and forget about it until the next time.


But I take on board what you are saying in regard to DET School  
Network. I think I have a copy of Windows XP Pro somewhere in my  
Computer room.


Thanks again.
Ronni


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Re: Programming Languages and compilers

2008-06-15 Thread Clyde McLennan


Thanks to those who replied suggesting several suitable  programming  
packages.  I think I will 'save my pennies' and go for the RealBasic  
option, as it seems to offer the simplicity that I'm looking for.


  Again many thanks to those who replied.

   Clyde

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Re: MacBooks for Teachers WA

2008-06-15 Thread Reg Whitely

Hi Ronni

You've received good advice about the MacBook. Here's my tuppenys-worth!

But I take on board what you are saying in regard to DET School  
Network. I think I have a copy of Windows XP Pro somewhere in my  
Computer room.


My DET leased MacBook was one of the first ones and has a relatively  
small hard drive. DET had partitioned it to carry a disk restore  
volume. I deleted that, made a copy of the DET profile on an external  
drive, reformatted into one partition and reinstalled the DET profile.  
It works perfectly. In fact DET later offered to do this for us if we  
didn't mind not having the restore volume. I'm not sure what the  
current status is for this - perhaps someone else might know. Anyway,  
it's easy enough to access the internet from within the school  
network, just get the proxy settings from a Windows machine (in IE  
properties) type in your DET user name (number) and password and  
you're on your way. You should also be able to print. My MacBook did a  
Bonjour search and connected that way to 2 of the printers, including  
our Toshiba networked copier/printer, although you might need to  
fiddle around with the various printer options depending on what's  
being used in the school. So far, no need for the Help Desk.


However accessing the Curriculum and Admin servers is trickier. A nice  
young man from the DET Help Desk helped me. He was their Mac Guy.  
Sorry, can't remember his name and that's unfortunate. Because my  
school is/was a 100 Schools LwICT school, he told me all the settings  
to put into the Go/Connect to Server pane as we were allowed to have  
Macs in the network. Something like admin\E0xx where  is  
the school code and the E0xx is your DET ID number, then use your  
current DET password. These settings allowed me to access all admin  
and curriculum servers including student folders. As a deputy  
principal I need both admin and curriculum access.


Unfortunately something happened a few months later and my settings no  
longer work. I haven't bothered following that part up because I've  
got an admin PC (Lenovo Thinkthingy) and use that for the non-creative  
things like email, Integris, reports etc but I should find out why my  
settings no longer work.


Don't let that deter you or your nephew.

I had previously installed the school's DET Windows XP SP1 as a  
Virtual PC7 machine and spent several weekends updating it on-line to  
XP2, with MS Office IE and a good quality freeware virus program (AVG  
Free Edition). I read on this list that VMware could install the VPC  
machine on the MacBook so I downloaded the demo of VMWare Fusion and  
VMWare Importer and it did just that. Now I have VMWare and XP2  
running on the MacBook. I haven't tried hooking it into the school  
network but It should be possible. You may need Help Desk advice there  
and I'd puzzle on their response especially in my instance as I don't  
have the DET Windows profile. Perhaps there's a way to access the DET  
setup profiles on the school's admin server.


As far as Integris is concerned, remember that reporting can be done  
using a web browser from home or school. You don't have the full  
functionality of Integris but you could easily do reporting/levelling  
from school on the MacBook. It runs really well in my Camino but  
Safari doesn't like it much! If you *must* have Integris, you will  
need Windows, unless, like Blitto, your school uses a terminal server  
setup. Mine doesn't. I wonder if it could run in another form of  
emulator? Not sure - sounds too techy for me today but some wonderful  
boffin on WAMUG might know...


Hope this is of some help.

Reg

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installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Martin Sulkowski
I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power Pc  
G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE  
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS  
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin


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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Eugene

Hi Martin,

my first suggestion is to repair disk permissions using Disk Utility.

  Regards,
  Eugene


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I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power Pc  
G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE  
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS  
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin


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Re: MacBooks for Teachers WA

2008-06-15 Thread Ronda Brown

On 15/06/2008, at 5:37 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:


Hi Ronni

You've received good advice about the MacBook. Here's my tuppenys- 
worth!


But I take on board what you are saying in regard to DET School  
Network. I think I have a copy of Windows XP Pro somewhere in my  
Computer room.


My DET leased MacBook was one of the first ones and has a relatively  
small hard drive. DET had partitioned it to carry a disk restore  
volume. I deleted that, made a copy of the DET profile on an  
external drive, reformatted into one partition and reinstalled the  
DET profile. It works perfectly. In fact DET later offered to do  
this for us if we didn't mind not having the restore volume. I'm not  
sure what the current status is for this - perhaps someone else  
might know. Anyway, it's easy enough to access the internet from  
within the school network, just get the proxy settings from a  
Windows machine (in IE properties) type in your DET user name  
(number) and password and you're on your way. You should also be  
able to print. My MacBook did a Bonjour search and connected that  
way to 2 of the printers, including our Toshiba networked copier/ 
printer, although you might need to fiddle around with the various  
printer options depending on what's being used in the school. So  
far, no need for the Help Desk.


However accessing the Curriculum and Admin servers is trickier. A  
nice young man from the DET Help Desk helped me. He was their Mac  
Guy. Sorry, can't remember his name and that's unfortunate. Because  
my school is/was a 100 Schools LwICT school, he told me all the  
settings to put into the Go/Connect to Server pane as we were  
allowed to have Macs in the network. Something like admin 
\E0xx where  is the school code and the E0xx is your DET  
ID number, then use your current DET password. These settings  
allowed me to access all admin and curriculum servers including  
student folders. As a deputy principal I need both admin and  
curriculum access.


Unfortunately something happened a few months later and my settings  
no longer work. I haven't bothered following that part up because  
I've got an admin PC (Lenovo Thinkthingy) and use that for the non- 
creative things like email, Integris, reports etc but I should find  
out why my settings no longer work.


Don't let that deter you or your nephew.

I had previously installed the school's DET Windows XP SP1 as a  
Virtual PC7 machine and spent several weekends updating it on-line  
to XP2, with MS Office IE and a good quality freeware virus program  
(AVG Free Edition). I read on this list that VMware could install  
the VPC machine on the MacBook so I downloaded the demo of VMWare  
Fusion and VMWare Importer and it did just that. Now I have VMWare  
and XP2 running on the MacBook. I haven't tried hooking it into the  
school network but It should be possible. You may need Help Desk  
advice there and I'd puzzle on their response especially in my  
instance as I don't have the DET Windows profile. Perhaps there's a  
way to access the DET setup profiles on the school's admin server.


As far as Integris is concerned, remember that reporting can be done  
using a web browser from home or school. You don't have the full  
functionality of Integris but you could easily do reporting/ 
levelling from school on the MacBook. It runs really well in my  
Camino but Safari doesn't like it much! If you *must* have Integris,  
you will need Windows, unless, like Blitto, your school uses a  
terminal server setup. Mine doesn't. I wonder if it could run in  
another form of emulator? Not sure - sounds too techy for me today  
but some wonderful boffin on WAMUG might know...


Hope this is of some help.

Reg


Thanks Reg,

My Son-n-Law's School does run SIS under a terminal server but he says  
people are having trouble with reporting using a Mac. Sounds like  
their IT are not doing something right.


Another Teacher sent me these details off list, I don't think he will  
mind me posting his reply here:


Start of Quote:
I  run Parallels to access SIS (Integris). In the next few weeks I'm  
getting a new one and I'll be putting Bootcamp on that as well as a  
partition running Parallels.


The mac will access the network with no problems at all.  The PC  
servers don't know it is a mac.


As IP addresses are handed out by DHCP the Mac gets an address just  
like any other device. Now install whatever printers you want.


Any teacher can access all of the Admin drives by going to the GO  
menu and selecting connect to server.


the user then types   smb://name of school server

Then up pops the normal windows logon window. The only real  
difference is that you have to log on to each shared folder or drive  
separately.


You now have access to all files and folders on the windows server  
that you would under a windows logon.


One great thing about using a mac is that none of the windows  
scripts will work so you aren't controlled 

Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread John Winters
 Any ideas what the problem is?
Yes,

MYOB has lost their focus on Mac as a platform. Still, not much option. Try
repairing permissions.

HTH
John





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 I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power Pc
 G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE
 OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS
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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Martin Sulkowski

hi eugene
my son has tried this already unfortunately not sucessful regards  
martin

On 15/06/2008, at 8:04 PM, Eugene wrote:


Hi Martin,

my first suggestion is to repair disk permissions using Disk Utility.

  Regards,
  Eugene


On 15/06/2008, at 7:55 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:

I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power  
Pc G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying  
SORRY ,THE OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR  
(ACCESS DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin


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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Martin Sulkowski
 the software is called Accountedge designed for Mac which runs  
perfectly on my officecomputer.hany more ideas ? martin

On 15/06/2008, at 8:38 PM, John Winters wrote:


Any ideas what the problem is?

Yes,

MYOB has lost their focus on Mac as a platform. Still, not much  
option. Try

repairing permissions.

HTH
John






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Subject: installing myob

I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power Pc
G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin

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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Mark Heeler

Are you logged in as a Admin when installing ?
(can make a difference for badly coded software - MYOB - Mmmm...?)

Tried to log in as a different user to install ?



On 15/06/2008, at 9:25 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:

the software is called Accountedge designed for Mac which runs  
perfectly on my officecomputer.hany more ideas ? martin

On 15/06/2008, at 8:38 PM, John Winters wrote:


Any ideas what the problem is?

Yes,

MYOB has lost their focus on Mac as a platform. Still, not much  
option. Try

repairing permissions.

HTH
John






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Subject: installing myob

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G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin

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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Robert Howells


On 15/06/2008, at 9:39 PM, Mark Heeler wrote:


Are you logged in as a Admin when installing ?
(can make a difference for badly coded software - MYOB - Mmmm...?)

Tried to log in as a different user to install ?



On 15/06/2008, at 9:25 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:

the software is called Accountedge designed for Mac which runs  
perfectly on my officecomputer.h

 any more ideas ?



martin


Hmmm !

You  have it installed on your office Mac   what version mac os ?

You are trying to instal on an emac   what version mac os ?


I don't know MYOB , but some software has hairy installation due to  
licensing registration controls !

Could this be the case here ?


Bob











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G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin

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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread F.W. Hänel
If you want it to run on a Mac you need AccountEdge, which is MYOB for  
Mac.
I have used AccountEdge for a number of years on several iMacs  
starting with OS 9.2


Walter
On 15/06/2008, at 10:45 PM, Robert Howells wrote:



On 15/06/2008, at 9:39 PM, Mark Heeler wrote:


Are you logged in as a Admin when installing ?
(can make a difference for badly coded software - MYOB - Mmmm...?)

Tried to log in as a different user to install ?



On 15/06/2008, at 9:25 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:

the software is called Accountedge designed for Mac which runs  
perfectly on my officecomputer.h

any more ideas ?



martin


Hmmm !

You  have it installed on your office Mac   what version mac os ?

You are trying to instal on an emac   what version mac os ?


I don't know MYOB , but some software has hairy installation due to  
licensing registration controls !

Could this be the case here ?


Bob











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I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power  
Pc

G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin

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Re: MacBooks for Teachers WA

2008-06-15 Thread Travis Hansen
Hi all,

I did all my reports using Safari 3 from home through the portal.
Worked really well. Although, save often as some saves didn't work.
Not sure if that was cause of Safari of not. For those interested, I
also did them (reports) using MacSpeech Dictate - it typed my speech
right into the comment box. Had about 95% accuracy, but still saved a
heap of time.

Re connecting to school servers - I was told at the beginning of the
year, Macs don't support the security protocols, so you can't connect
using OSX. Our IT guy (comes in once a week) is so anti-Mac it's not
funny. So I have to switch to Boot Camp to get internet and access to
shared drives. Can't wait to try Ronni and Reg's suggestions -
tomorrow!

cheers
Travis

2008/6/15 Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 15/06/2008, at 5:37 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 Hi Ronni

 You've received good advice about the MacBook. Here's my tuppenys-worth!

 But I take on board what you are saying in regard to DET School Network. I 
 think I have a copy of Windows XP Pro somewhere in my Computer room.

 My DET leased MacBook was one of the first ones and has a relatively small 
 hard drive. DET had partitioned it to carry a disk restore volume. I deleted 
 that, made a copy of the DET profile on an external drive, reformatted into 
 one partition and reinstalled the DET profile. It works perfectly. In fact 
 DET later offered to do this for us if we didn't mind not having the restore 
 volume. I'm not sure what the current status is for this - perhaps someone 
 else might know. Anyway, it's easy enough to access the internet from within 
 the school network, just get the proxy settings from a Windows machine (in 
 IE properties) type in your DET user name (number) and password and you're 
 on your way. You should also be able to print. My MacBook did a Bonjour 
 search and connected that way to 2 of the printers, including our Toshiba 
 networked copier/printer, although you might need to fiddle around with the 
 various printer options depending on what's being used in the school. So 
 far, no need for the Help Desk.

 However accessing the Curriculum and Admin servers is trickier. A nice young 
 man from the DET Help Desk helped me. He was their Mac Guy. Sorry, can't 
 remember his name and that's unfortunate. Because my school is/was a 100 
 Schools LwICT school, he told me all the settings to put into the Go/Connect 
 to Server pane as we were allowed to have Macs in the network. Something 
 like admin\E0xx where  is the school code and the E0xx is 
 your DET ID number, then use your current DET password. These settings 
 allowed me to access all admin and curriculum servers including student 
 folders. As a deputy principal I need both admin and curriculum access.

 Unfortunately something happened a few months later and my settings no 
 longer work. I haven't bothered following that part up because I've got an 
 admin PC (Lenovo Thinkthingy) and use that for the non-creative things like 
 email, Integris, reports etc but I should find out why my settings no longer 
 work.

 Don't let that deter you or your nephew.

 I had previously installed the school's DET Windows XP SP1 as a Virtual PC7 
 machine and spent several weekends updating it on-line to XP2, with MS 
 Office IE and a good quality freeware virus program (AVG Free Edition). I 
 read on this list that VMware could install the VPC machine on the MacBook 
 so I downloaded the demo of VMWare Fusion and VMWare Importer and it did 
 just that. Now I have VMWare and XP2 running on the MacBook. I haven't tried 
 hooking it into the school network but It should be possible. You may need 
 Help Desk advice there and I'd puzzle on their response especially in my 
 instance as I don't have the DET Windows profile. Perhaps there's a way to 
 access the DET setup profiles on the school's admin server.

 As far as Integris is concerned, remember that reporting can be done using a 
 web browser from home or school. You don't have the full functionality of 
 Integris but you could easily do reporting/levelling from school on the 
 MacBook. It runs really well in my Camino but Safari doesn't like it much! 
 If you *must* have Integris, you will need Windows, unless, like Blitto, 
 your school uses a terminal server setup. Mine doesn't. I wonder if it could 
 run in another form of emulator? Not sure - sounds too techy for me today 
 but some wonderful boffin on WAMUG might know...

 Hope this is of some help.

 Reg

 Thanks Reg,

 My Son-n-Law's School does run SIS under a terminal server but he says people 
 are having trouble with reporting using a Mac. Sounds like their IT are not 
 doing something right.

 Another Teacher sent me these details off list, I don't think he will mind me 
 posting his reply here:

 Start of Quote:

 I  run Parallels to access SIS (Integris). In the next few weeks I'm getting 
 a new one and I'll be putting Bootcamp on that as well as a partition 
 running Parallels.

 

Accounting with OSX?

2008-06-15 Thread pweaver
I have a some sons with a successful plumbing business.  For several
years they've been operating MYOB on Windoze, but have finally
changed over the office computer to a new iMac.  Does anyone have any
suggestions for a better accounting package to use on the new machine.

Cheers, Paul.


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Re: Accounting with OSX?

2008-06-15 Thread Shapelle McNee

Hi Paul

At work we have iMac and use parrallels so that we can still use MYOB 
(now that MYOB do not service iMac versions anymore).


Cheers
Shapelle




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Re: Accounting with OSX?

2008-06-15 Thread Manzie Greg

Hello Paul

I like Moneyworks from Cognito Software in New Zealand.

http://cognito.co.nz/

It is automatically geared up for Australian, NZ  and Canadian GST etc.

However it is more a book keeping application than a full accounting  
package. MYOB was way too sophisticated for my needs where Moneyworks  
is much more user friendly.


It's available for Mac and PC and they will send a free package to  
your accountant if you buy it. Files can be exported and read on both  
platforms in several ways. It is also compatible with MYOB and other  
applications and my accountant likes it because it can create some  
fairly useful reports.


There's a free demo that can be converted to fully working version if  
you buy one of the packaged options.


When I purchased it, I looked at other apps, some of which were  
cheaper or even free, but I found that this program was written  
specifically for Australian small businesses.


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I have a some sons with a successful plumbing business.  For several
years they've been operating MYOB on Windoze, but have finally
changed over the office computer to a new iMac.  Does anyone have any
suggestions for a better accounting package to use on the new machine.

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Re: Accounting with OSX?

2008-06-15 Thread Susan Hastings
MYOB version for Macs is AccountEdge and they not only support Macs,  
they have issued a new version. cheers, Susan.



On 16/06/2008, at 9:22 AM, Shapelle McNee wrote:


Hi Paul

At work we have iMac and use parrallels so that we can still use  
MYOB (now that MYOB do not service iMac versions anymore).


Cheers
Shapelle




I have a some sons with a successful plumbing business.  For several
years they've been operating MYOB on Windoze, but have finally
changed over the office computer to a new iMac.  Does anyone have any
suggestions for a better accounting package to use on the new  
machine.


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Re: Accounting with OSX?

2008-06-15 Thread Susan Hastings
Hi, I use AccountEdge (by MYOB) on my Intel Mac with 10.5.3 with no  
problems. cheers, Susan.

On 16/06/2008, at 6:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Re: installing myob

2008-06-15 Thread Dudley Gager

On 15/06/2008, at 7:55 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:

I'm trying to install MYoB on my  e-mac in the workshop ...Power Pc  
G4  , 1.42Ghz , 256 mb memory.A window comes up saying SORRY ,THE  
OPERATION COULD NOT BE COMPLETED DUE TO A SYSTEM ERROR (ACCESS  
DENIED) ..Any ideas what the problem is?  martin


Hi Martin

I use have used Accountedge on many macs over the years and I have had  
problems moving to a new mac from time to time.


As I recall, the problems have had 2 solutions:

1. Run MYOB as an administrator which MYOB, bless 'em, have  
recommended in the past. Not sure if they still do.


2. Adjust the permissions on the MYOB folder  - get info on the  
folder. Mine are all set to Read  Write on my Intel mac running  
leopard.


To get this simple piece of advice out of MYOB, I had a stand-up fight  
with the telephone support who knew the answer to my problem but  
refused to give it to me unless I paid for a year's support.


BTW have just switched to Leopard and there might be some printing  
problems which so far I have worked around as I recall by sending to  
pdf file.


Funny mob MYOB. If I didn't need payroll I would consider Moneyworks  
from Cognito in NZ. Dudley


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Re: MacBooks for Teachers WA

2008-06-15 Thread Stuart Evans
Re connecting to school servers - I was told at the beginning of the
year, Macs don't support the security protocols, so you can't connect
using OSX. Our IT guy (comes in once a week) is so anti-Mac it's not
funny. So I have to switch to Boot Camp to get internet and access to
shared drives. Can't wait to try Ronni and Reg's suggestions -
tomorrow!

cheers
Travis


Hi Travis,

The anti-Mac guys are out there! It pays to remember these guys know nothing
else and generally protect their territory. If you try to prove them wrong
they just arc up, and up go the blinkers. It is unfortunate. With some, you
can subtley show the benefits and bring them over the the light! I have done
this myself with about 6 or so IT guys who are now MacBook Pro users and
lining up for iPhones. 

When I see the results and improvements in students at a school that has
gone from using Word and Publisher, to creating with iPhoto, iMovie and
Pages I am always amazed. And it happens at all ages. It is unfortunate that
ICT 'people' see the only way to manage networks is to go down the Windows
/ Group Policy lockdown path. I understand the why, especially on
Administration networks, but there can still be structure in having a
creative curriculum learning environment. 

In your case Travis, there is a single registry setting (part of the domain
server security policy) that can make it difficult for Mac users to connect
to a share. It is not that Mac's don't support security protocols, it is
that Microsoft don't always follow standards. You can actually join your Mac
(OSX) to the domain and login with your standard username and password. Then
you can connect to a share (with your username and password) and then add
that to your startup items so that next time you login it will automatically
connect.  

I've had some fun with ICT support guys. I went to one school where they
wanted an iMac able to access the Internet. No worries. Can I have your
proxy settings please. Oh no, they say, It can't go on the network!.
Their IT guy said a Mac would not run on their network, so just connect it
to the wireless. huh?. I asked them how much they were paying this guy.
:-)   I ended up drawing their network for them to prove that I had to
connect it to the network to get Internet and that it would not cause any
server issues. At another private school, the Principal and Head of
Curriculum both were mightily impressed by our demonstration of what a Mac
could do for their learning environment. By the time we called back, their
IT guy had told them he couldn't support Macs and he would walk out. huh?
So who is running the school?

Good luck to all Mac users at schools and feel free to ask questions if you
have road blocks. I may have the answers. Remember, anything is possible!

Oh, and the guy at DET for Apple support for schools that are
LWCIT/GDSOE/100 schools is Paul Lewis.

Cheers,
Stuart


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