Anyone have a dead G5 Tower Mac they might want to part with?
A few months ago I managed to drop my G5 tower when moving it and damaged the case ... just an aesthetic thing - the mac still runs fine - but kind of getting sick of staring at the sorry looking bent and broken thing on my desk I notice old G5 tower cases sell on eBay for around $200 to $250'ish with shipping to perth so thought I'd see if any one on WAMUG might have a dead G5 tower they might want to part with somewhere around that (or less) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Secker (Ba. Bus. IS/IP, ECU) User Support Officer Laboratory Manager Business School IT Services The University of Western Australia - CRICOS provider number 00126G M261 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley 6009 Phone 6488 1855, Fax 6488 1055, -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connection woes
There is a main adsl hard wired in filter at the first point where the phone comes into the house, all the rest of the phones also have inline filters connected in the line. We thought we were covered! Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 25/06/2008, at 8:46 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: Tonight I'm connected again..without dropouts for about 1/2 hour I called Westnet again, and we re-uplugged the phones, 1 by 1, and left 1 not plugged in..the one that's got an old plug in connection. So fa so god, but weird as it's been there all along. Have a central line filter which is supposed to work for all..anyway, OK for now. Here's hoping. If I do move over to adsl2 will the netcom nb5plus4w be ok or would you recommend something else? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary How is your inline filter connected ? Was it wired in or is it done via cords ? Who did the wiring ? There is a chance that the wiring for it does not go through the filter ! ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off-topic - Jet-man and his wing
Sorry, I couldn't think of a Mac link - but I reckon it's really amazing - I know we have a few aviation enthusiasts on the list!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dST-a5IU_h4 -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connection woes
Hi... If I understand correctly that effectively leaves all your phones behind two filters, which may affect the impedance characteristics of the line as seen from outside the first filter (ie where your ADSL router presumably sits). Thus why things might work better when you've only got the hardwired filter in place. Have fun, Shay Rosemary Horton wrote: There is a main adsl hard wired in filter at the first point where the phone comes into the house, all the rest of the phones also have inline filters connected in the line. We thought we were covered! Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 25/06/2008, at 8:46 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: Tonight I'm connected again..without dropouts for about 1/2 hour I called Westnet again, and we re-uplugged the phones, 1 by 1, and left 1 not plugged in..the one that's got an old plug in connection. So fa so god, but weird as it's been there all along. Have a central line filter which is supposed to work for all..anyway, OK for now. Here's hoping. If I do move over to adsl2 will the netcom nb5plus4w be ok or would you recommend something else? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary How is your inline filter connected ? Was it wired in or is it done via cords ? Who did the wiring ? There is a chance that the wiring for it does not go through the filter ! ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer There are many worlds and many Opinions for hire [POQ] tales, but not much time http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord - Roland of Gilead -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connection woes
The central fllter/splitter sits just after the wire comes into the house, especially designed for this according to the very highly priced linesman who set it up. Then, Westnet support people kept nagging, you have got to have filters on the lines..so I don't know!! In any case, one particular phone unplugged and all (seems to be) well Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 5:53 PM, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi... If I understand correctly that effectively leaves all your phones behind two filters, which may affect the impedance characteristics of the line as seen from outside the first filter (ie where your ADSL router presumably sits). Thus why things might work better when you've only got the hardwired filter in place. Have fun, Shay Rosemary Horton wrote: There is a main adsl hard wired in filter at the first point where the phone comes into the house, all the rest of the phones also have inline filters connected in the line. We thought we were covered! Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 25/06/2008, at 8:46 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: Tonight I'm connected again..without dropouts for about 1/2 hour I called Westnet again, and we re-uplugged the phones, 1 by 1, and left 1 not plugged in..the one that's got an old plug in connection. So fa so god, but weird as it's been there all along. Have a central line filter which is supposed to work for all..anyway, OK for now. Here's hoping. If I do move over to adsl2 will the netcom nb5plus4w be ok or would you recommend something else? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary How is your inline filter connected ? Was it wired in or is it done via cords ? Who did the wiring ? There is a chance that the wiring for it does not go through the filter ! ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer There are many worlds and many Opinions for hire [POQ] tales, but not much time http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord - Roland of Gilead -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connection woes
I seem to have something that is labelled N55 DSL016 A net search indicates it might be Telequip Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 6:51 PM, Robert Howells wrote: On 26/06/2008, at 5:43 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: There is a main adsl hard wired in filter at the first point where the phone comes into the house, all the rest of the phones also have inline filters connected in the line. We thought we were covered! Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary ! As a retired Telstra Tech with 43 years experience I have seen plenty of places where things were not what they should have been . So I had to ask the question ! At this stage with your problem ... one phone unplugged which may be causing problems ... I want to suggest to you that having additional filters after the Hard Wired filter may in itself under some circumstances cause a problem . The one good quality filter is all that is needed . There have been occasions where a filter has been found faulty . And not all filters are necessarily of the best quality . Recently I rearranged my set up so that I now have just the one new hard wired filter with 3 phones on line . Recent speed tests to my ISP show I achieve 1536 KB . In earlier days I was getting only about 1200 KB . Perhaps something else has altered but I am suspicious that it is the new filter that has produced the improved line speed . Hopefully your filter will appear on the approved list at this address : http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=adslfp_03 I am using the C10 Communications C10100E . The same splitter is being sold at Office works under the name of Jackson . Cheers Bob On 26/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 25/06/2008, at 8:46 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: Tonight I'm connected again..without dropouts for about 1/2 hour I called Westnet again, and we re-uplugged the phones, 1 by 1, and left 1 not plugged in..the one that's got an old plug in connection. So fa so god, but weird as it's been there all along. Have a central line filter which is supposed to work for all..anyway, OK for now. Here's hoping. If I do move over to adsl2 will the netcom nb5plus4w be ok or would you recommend something else? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary How is your inline filter connected ? Was it wired in or is it done via cords ? Who did the wiring ? There is a chance that the wiring for it does not go through the filter ! ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[4Sale] - PLC computers
Presbyterian Ladies' College has a number of eMacs and other computers which must be sold before July 4 due to relocation of a storeroom. Speeds range from 700 MHz to 1.25 GHz. RAM ranges from 256 MB to 768 MB. Drives are all Combos. No OS discs available. Preference will be given to schools and charities that need multiple units. There are currently 41 eMacs available. Priced at $100 to $200 depending on spec. PowerBook 12, 1.33. 6 available. $500 each G4/800 tower $50 G3 Snow iMac, 7 available. $10 Tektronix Phaser 860n wax printers, 2 available [Used to be colour but only good for BW now. Not economical to repair.] $50 Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone the Techcentre on 9424 6469. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [4Sale] - PLC computers
If the G4/800 TOWER IS STILL AVAILABLE I WILL HAVE IT MAC. Sorry for shouting :-( Mac On 26/06/2008, at 8:49 PM, Mastery Multimedia wrote: Presbyterian Ladies' College has a number of eMacs and other computers which must be sold before July 4 due to relocation of a storeroom. Speeds range from 700 MHz to 1.25 GHz. RAM ranges from 256 MB to 768 MB. Drives are all Combos. No OS discs available. Preference will be given to schools and charities that need multiple units. There are currently 41 eMacs available. Priced at $100 to $200 depending on spec. PowerBook 12, 1.33. 6 available. $500 each G4/800 tower $50 G3 Snow iMac, 7 available. $10 Tektronix Phaser 860n wax printers, 2 available [Used to be colour but only good for BW now. Not economical to repair.] $50 Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone the Techcentre on 9424 6469. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connection woes
Rosemary For what it is worth I have a central splitter as you described that sends one ADSL line to my study and the other line takes three phones without filters. The ADSL line coming into my study has a splitter that gives an ADSL connection to my modem and a telephone connection to my phone/fax. Seems to work. Merv The central fllter/splitter sits just after the wire comes into the house, especially designed for this according to the very highly priced linesman who set it up. Then, Westnet support people kept nagging, you have got to have filters on the lines..so I don't know!! In any case, one particular phone unplugged and all (seems to be) well Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 5:53 PM, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi... If I understand correctly that effectively leaves all your phones behind two filters, which may affect the impedance characteristics of the line as seen from outside the first filter (ie where your ADSL router presumably sits). Thus why things might work better when you've only got the hardwired filter in place. Have fun, Shay Rosemary Horton wrote: There is a main adsl hard wired in filter at the first point where the phone comes into the house, all the rest of the phones also have inline filters connected in the line. We thought we were covered! Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 25/06/2008, at 8:46 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: Tonight I'm connected again..without dropouts for about 1/2 hour I called Westnet again, and we re-uplugged the phones, 1 by 1, and left 1 not plugged in..the one that's got an old plug in connection. So fa so god, but weird as it's been there all along. Have a central line filter which is supposed to work for all..anyway, OK for now. Here's hoping. If I do move over to adsl2 will the netcom nb5plus4w be ok or would you recommend something else? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary How is your inline filter connected ? Was it wired in or is it done via cords ? Who did the wiring ? There is a chance that the wiring for it does not go through the filter ! ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer There are many worlds and many Opinions for hire [POQ] tales, but not much time http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord - Roland of Gilead -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connection woes
I have an even zanier working system! A central splitter filter has the security system on one branch and another line with four phones at various well spread locations in two buildings, each with its own filter. Yet another line has another splitter/filter on it with the ADSL ethernet router on one arm and the filtered side goes to the modem in our G3 iMac for sending faxes. Additionally an Airport Extreme Base station is into the router. Wonder of wonders, it all works fine. Severin Crisp On 26/06/2008, at 10:24 PM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: Rosemary For what it is worth I have a central splitter as you described that sends one ADSL line to my study and the other line takes three phones without filters. The ADSL line coming into my study has a splitter that gives an ADSL connection to my modem and a telephone connection to my phone/fax. Seems to work. Merv The central fllter/splitter sits just after the wire comes into the house, especially designed for this according to the very highly priced linesman who set it up. Then, Westnet support people kept nagging, you have got to have filters on the lines..so I don't know!! In any case, one particular phone unplugged and all (seems to be) well Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 5:53 PM, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi... If I understand correctly that effectively leaves all your phones behind two filters, which may affect the impedance characteristics of the line as seen from outside the first filter (ie where your ADSL router presumably sits). Thus why things might work better when you've only got the hardwired filter in place. Have fun, Shay Rosemary Horton wrote: There is a main adsl hard wired in filter at the first point where the phone comes into the house, all the rest of the phones also have inline filters connected in the line. We thought we were covered! Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/06/2008, at 8:36 AM, Robert Howells wrote: On 25/06/2008, at 8:46 PM, Rosemary Horton wrote: Tonight I'm connected again..without dropouts for about 1/2 hour I called Westnet again, and we re-uplugged the phones, 1 by 1, and left 1 not plugged in..the one that's got an old plug in connection. So fa so god, but weird as it's been there all along. Have a central line filter which is supposed to work for all..anyway, OK for now. Here's hoping. If I do move over to adsl2 will the netcom nb5plus4w be ok or would you recommend something else? Rosemary Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rosemary How is your inline filter connected ? Was it wired in or is it done via cords ? Who did the wiring ? There is a chance that the wiring for it does not go through the filter ! ? Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/ guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer There are many worlds and many Opinions for hire [POQ] tales, but not much time http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord - Roland of Gilead -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone have a dead G5 Tower Mac they might want to part with?
I have a brand new G5 tower case with plastic protective coating you can have for $500. if you wish to email off list. Rick On 26/06/2008, at 4:20 PM, Mark Secker wrote: A few months ago I managed to drop my G5 tower when moving it and damaged the case ... just an aesthetic thing - the mac still runs fine - but kind of getting sick of staring at the sorry looking bent and broken thing on my desk I notice old G5 tower cases sell on eBay for around $200 to $250'ish with shipping to perth so thought I'd see if any one on WAMUG might have a dead G5 tower they might want to part with somewhere around that (or less) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Secker (Ba. Bus. IS/IP, ECU) User Support Officer Laboratory Manager Business School IT Services The University of Western Australia - CRICOS provider number 00126G M261 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley 6009 Phone 6488 1855, Fax 6488 1055, -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: U TUBE
Hey folks, Does anyone know how to capture videos from U tube burn then to disc? I use tubetv I think you need Perian installed as well movies can played in Quicktime or iTunes I've made DVD's with iDVD and burnt them to play on other dvd players - takes a while to burn ( macPro) evidently another way to download UTube movies is play a utube move in Utube in safariwindowactivity, look the largest files looks something like this: http://v5.cache.googlevideo.com/get_video?video_id=FRXmPe8I7QQorigin=sjl-v135.sjl.youtube.comsignature=56E1C4DD83D39F3CFFC7ACD46694B1F64B5BD2E1.B092C20BBFFE2BC5E16A674F87C256986836BA95ip=125.168.96.243ipbits=16expire=1214552129key=yt1sver=2 paste in either new safari window or your personal download manager of choice rename file in finder anyway its easier with tubetv http://www.chimoosoft.com/products/tubetv/ hope this helps Thx regards, Ken -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gary dorn north perth -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing
it was colour managment. You know of this also??? Is there a big difference/ tom On 27/06/2008, at 11:07 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 27/06/2008, at 10:10 AM, tom samson wrote: I have a G5 10.4.11 Use graphic converter and other print programmes but whatever I do I cannot get my Epson R230 to print the same as I see on screen. They are always different lighter reder bluer bit washed out never the same., What do others do in these situation. I have calibrated and calibrated the screen - that is not the printer. All inks are new and primed all heads clean Hello Tom, Are you using the Epson R230 Printer Driver Settings? When you go to Print, Under Print Settings, there is Media Type for the paper you are going to print on (Photo Paper, Glossy Photo paper etc). You can use Mode: Automatic, custom, or Advanced Settings set the highest quality for the printer/Media combination that you require. Under Print Settings - Color Management: do you have either 'Color Controls' or 'Color Sync' set? Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
