Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Secker
err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the MacBook  
Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...




apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much  
rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model  
iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the latest  
change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to move on  
from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a FW800 in the  
lower end MacBooks.



On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi all,

now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the MacBook  
is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a video camera  
with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is there any  
adaptors /  methods that can do this?


We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard them  
just because Apple has gone cheap on us..


 Regards,
 Eugene



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Re: Apple unveils new 24-inch LED Cinema Display

2008-10-16 Thread Mark Secker
probably won't see one going the other way for a while, if ever (at  
least from Apple),


Display port will allow a DVI  VGA signal through to a non Display  
Port monitor but to plug a DVI or VGA port in to a Display Port  
monitor you'd need some active device that will allow encoding of  
analogue and/or decoding/recoding of DVI in to Display port digital  
signal.



On 16/10/2008, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Is it just me?

The first thing I thought when I heard about the new 24 display,  
with the
iMac styling, was - Wow - what a really nice 2 display set-up you  
could have

with this sat next to a 24 iMac.

However, all the Apple blurb touts this as a laptop display - no  
mention of

using it as a second screen or screen for say a MacPro.

Presumably, this is because it uses a new mini display port which  
is only
compatible with the new laptops - though they may offer adaptors  
when the
displays ship (at present the only adaptors seem to be for the  
laptops mini

display port to allow you to use a dvi or vga monitor).

I know apple are still selling the 23 cinema display - but the  new  
24

looks to be a so much better match with the 24 iMacs!!

So.. what can we expect? New adaptors/cables or a new iMac with the  
new

mini display port?

Any thoughts?

Cheers


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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi People,

Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple  
Discussion Boards.


MacFixit has this to say:

FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove nightmare;
Apple censors threads -
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
Trigger: Late-Breakers)
Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on Apple's
discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do  
target

firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire target  
disk
mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct  
computers,

run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac OS X
startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of FireWire
connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the lack
of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting every
thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on the  
New

MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new MacBooks,
and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic. There  
are

no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that use  
the

protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple apparently
expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to  
another

system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie '08.There
are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide power or
6-pin connectivity.

I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking Firewire  
away seems ridiculous to me.
I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port that  
has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the MacBook  
Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...




apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much  
rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model  
iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the  
latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to  
move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a  
FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.



On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi all,

now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the  
MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a  
video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is  
there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?


We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard  
them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..


Regards,
Eugene




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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Chris Burton

Hi Ronni

Thanks for the info on the apple threads. that is amazing!

Big mistake by Apple

My 15 MacBook Pro will be with me for quite awhile

regards to all

chris

On 16/10/2008, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi People,

Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple  
Discussion Boards.


MacFixit has this to say:

FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove nightmare;
Apple censors threads -
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
Trigger: Late-Breakers)
Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on Apple's
discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do  
target

firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire  
target disk
mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct  
computers,

run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac OS X
startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of FireWire
connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the lack
of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting  
every
thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on  
the New

MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new  
MacBooks,
and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic.  
There are

no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that  
use the
protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple  
apparently
expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to  
another

system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie '08.There
are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide power  
or

6-pin connectivity.

I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking  
Firewire away seems ridiculous to me.
I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port  
that has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the MacBook  
Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...




apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much  
rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model  
iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the  
latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to  
move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a  
FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.



On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi all,

now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the  
MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a  
video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is  
there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?


We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard  
them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..


   Regards,
   Eugene




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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Chris,

Apple are not keeping up with the deleting ... there is a lot of  
discussion on the Apple Discussions.
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=c1search=Goq=no+firewire+ports+on+new+MacBooks 



Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 3:38 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thanks for the info on the apple threads. that is amazing!

Big mistake by Apple

My 15 MacBook Pro will be with me for quite awhile

regards to all

chris

On 16/10/2008, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi People,

Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple  
Discussion Boards.


MacFixit has this to say:

FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove nightmare;
Apple censors threads -
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
Trigger: Late-Breakers)
Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on Apple's
discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do  
target

firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire  
target disk
mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct  
computers,
run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac  
OS X

startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of  
FireWire

connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the lack
of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting  
every
thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on  
the New

MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new  
MacBooks,
and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic.  
There are

no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that  
use the
protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple  
apparently
expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to  
another

system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie  
'08.There
are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide  
power or

6-pin connectivity.

I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking  
Firewire away seems ridiculous to me.
I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port  
that has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the  
MacBook Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...




apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much  
rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model  
iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the  
latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to  
move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a  
FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.



On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi all,

now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the  
MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a  
video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is  
there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?


We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard  
them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..


  Regards,
  Eugene


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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi All

I would suggest that if it is an issue you all add your comments on the Apple
Discussions boards and perhaps email Garner here in Apple Perth?

regards

Roger


On Thu Oct 16 15:41 , Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Hi Chris,

Apple are not keeping up with the deleting ... there is a lot of  
discussion on the Apple Discussions.

 

Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 3:38 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Hi Ronni

 Thanks for the info on the apple threads. that is amazing!

 Big mistake by Apple

 My 15 MacBook Pro will be with me for quite awhile

 regards to all

 chris

 On 16/10/2008, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi People,

 Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple  
 Discussion Boards.

 MacFixit has this to say:

 FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove nightmare;
 Apple censors threads -
 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php\?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
 Trigger: Late-Breakers)
 Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
 MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on Apple's
 discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
 Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do  
 target
 firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
 leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire  
 target disk
 mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct  
 computers,
 run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac  
 OS X
 startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
 threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of  
 FireWire
 connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
 writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the lack
 of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting  
 every
 thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on  
 the New
 MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
 Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new  
 MacBooks,
 and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic.  
 There are
 no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
 issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
 users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that  
 use the
 protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple  
 apparently
 expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to  
 another
 system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
 boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie  
 '08.There
 are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide  
 power or
 6-pin connectivity.


 I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking  
 Firewire away seems ridiculous to me.
 I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port  
 that has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

 err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the  
 MacBook Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...



 apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much  
 rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model  
 iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the  
 latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to  
 move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a  
 FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.


 On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:

 Hi all,

 now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the  
 MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a  
 video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is  
 there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?

 We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard  
 them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..

   Regards,
   Eugene

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Re: Apple unveils new 24-inch LED Cinema Display

2008-10-16 Thread Daniel Kerr
Is it just me, or does this seem very similar to the days of ADC on the
LCD's? 
Nice monitor, I'd like to run it on my older computer (or Windows).
 Sure,..you just need to buy this $350 adapter)
Oh,...nevermind

If they do the same with this monitor that you can't run it on other
computers/iMac'/towers/DVI port, then it does seem very similar.

Unless I'm missing something here
Kind Regards
Daniel


On 16/10/08 2:23 PM, Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 probably won't see one going the other way for a while, if ever (at
 least from Apple),
 
 Display port will allow a DVI  VGA signal through to a non Display
 Port monitor but to plug a DVI or VGA port in to a Display Port
 monitor you'd need some active device that will allow encoding of
 analogue and/or decoding/recoding of DVI in to Display port digital
 signal.
 
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Is it just me?
 
 The first thing I thought when I heard about the new 24 display,
 with the
 iMac styling, was - Wow - what a really nice 2 display set-up you
 could have
 with this sat next to a 24 iMac.
 
 However, all the Apple blurb touts this as a laptop display - no
 mention of
 using it as a second screen or screen for say a MacPro.
 
 Presumably, this is because it uses a new mini display port which
 is only
 compatible with the new laptops - though they may offer adaptors
 when the
 displays ship (at present the only adaptors seem to be for the
 laptops mini
 display port to allow you to use a dvi or vga monitor).
 
 I know apple are still selling the 23 cinema display - but the  new
 24
 looks to be a so much better match with the 24 iMacs!!
 
 So.. what can we expect? New adaptors/cables or a new iMac with the
 new
 mini display port?
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Neil Houghton
Hehe... Why? It's not going to get firewire re-instated!

Apple never reverse course on these things - that would be akin to the
Jobster admitting he had made a mistake!

Just my 5c worth :)

Cheers


Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


on 16/10/08 3:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All
 
 I would suggest that if it is an issue you all add your comments on the Apple
 Discussions boards and perhaps email Garner here in Apple Perth?
 
 regards
 
 Roger
 
 
 On Thu Oct 16 15:41 , Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Apple are not keeping up with the deleting ... there is a lot of
 discussion on the Apple Discussions.
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 3:38 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for the info on the apple threads. that is amazing!
 
 Big mistake by Apple
 
 My 15 MacBook Pro will be with me for quite awhile
 
 regards to all
 
 chris
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi People,
 
 Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple
 Discussion Boards.
 
 MacFixit has this to say:
 
 FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove nightmare;
 Apple censors threads -
 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php\?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
 Trigger: Late-Breakers)
 Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
 MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on Apple's
 discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
 Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do
 target
 firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
 leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire
 target disk
 mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct
 computers,
 run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac
 OS X
 startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
 threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of
 FireWire
 connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
 writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the lack
 of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting
 every
 thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on
 the New
 MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
 Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new
 MacBooks,
 and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic.
 There are
 no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
 issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
 users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that
 use the
 protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple
 apparently
 expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to
 another
 system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
 boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie
 '08.There
 are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide
 power or
 6-pin connectivity.
 
 --
 --
 I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking
 Firewire away seems ridiculous to me.
 I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port
 that has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:
 
 err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the
 MacBook Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...
 
 
 
 apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much
 rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model
 iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the
 latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to
 move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a
 FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.
 
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the
 MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a
 video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is
 there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?
 
 We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard
 them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..
 
   Regards,
   Eugene




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Re: Apple unveils new 24-inch LED Cinema Display

2008-10-16 Thread Rod
Big difference is the DisplayPort is a royalty free standard from  
VESA,  not a proprietory connector from Apple.  Dell also have laptops  
available with this connector.  I'd bank on it replacing hdmi as the  
video connection on computers.


Seeya

Rod

Sent from my iPhone

On 16/10/2008, at 2:53 PM, Daniel Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it just me, or does this seem very similar to the days of ADC on  
the

LCD's?
Nice monitor, I'd like to run it on my older computer (or Windows).
Sure,..you just need to buy this $350 adapter)
Oh,...nevermind

If they do the same with this monitor that you can't run it on other
computers/iMac'/towers/DVI port, then it does seem very similar.

Unless I'm missing something here
Kind Regards
Daniel


On 16/10/08 2:23 PM, Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


probably won't see one going the other way for a while, if ever (at
least from Apple),

Display port will allow a DVI  VGA signal through to a non Display
Port monitor but to plug a DVI or VGA port in to a Display Port
monitor you'd need some active device that will allow encoding of
analogue and/or decoding/recoding of DVI in to Display port digital
signal.


On 16/10/2008, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Is it just me?

The first thing I thought when I heard about the new 24 display,
with the
iMac styling, was - Wow - what a really nice 2 display set-up you
could have
with this sat next to a 24 iMac.

However, all the Apple blurb touts this as a laptop display - no
mention of
using it as a second screen or screen for say a MacPro.

Presumably, this is because it uses a new mini display port which
is only
compatible with the new laptops - though they may offer adaptors
when the
displays ship (at present the only adaptors seem to be for the
laptops mini
display port to allow you to use a dvi or vga monitor).

I know apple are still selling the 23 cinema display - but the  new
24
looks to be a so much better match with the 24 iMacs!!

So.. what can we expect? New adaptors/cables or a new iMac with the
new
mini display port?

Any thoughts?

Cheers


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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No maybe not but you might stop it being removed from the MacPros next time!

On Thu Oct 16 15:59 , Neil Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Hehe... Why? It's not going to get firewire re-instated!

Apple never reverse course on these things - that would be akin to the
Jobster admitting he had made a mistake!

Just my 5c worth :)

Cheers


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on 16/10/08 3:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All
 
 I would suggest that if it is an issue you all add your comments on the Apple
 Discussions boards and perhaps email Garner here in Apple Perth?
 
 regards
 
 Roger
 
 
 On Thu Oct 16 15:41 , Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Apple are not keeping up with the deleting ... there is a lot of
 discussion on the Apple Discussions.
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 3:38 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for the info on the apple threads. that is amazing!
 
 Big mistake by Apple
 
 My 15 MacBook Pro will be with me for quite awhile
 
 regards to all
 
 chris
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi People,
 
 Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple
 Discussion Boards.
 
 MacFixit has this to say:
 
 FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove nightmare;
 Apple censors threads -
 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php\?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
 Trigger: Late-Breakers)
 Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
 MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on Apple's
 discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
 Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do
 target
 firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
 leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire
 target disk
 mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct
 computers,
 run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac
 OS X
 startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
 threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of
 FireWire
 connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
 writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the lack
 of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting
 every
 thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on
 the New
 MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
 Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new
 MacBooks,
 and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic.
 There are
 no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
 issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
 users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that
 use the
 protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple
 apparently
 expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to
 another
 system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
 boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie
 '08.There
 are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide
 power or
 6-pin connectivity.
 
 --
 --
 I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking
 Firewire away seems ridiculous to me.
 I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port
 that has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:
 
 err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the
 MacBook Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...
 
 
 
 apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much
 rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model
 iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the
 latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to
 move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a
 FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.
 
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the
 MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a
 video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is
 there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?
 
 We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard
 them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..
 
   Regards,
   Eugene




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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Warren Jones
Yes Apple do some damn wonderful things. And they also do some damn  
stupid things.


Removing firewire is ridiculous for many reasons.
Maybe they're abandoning it for USB 3 eventually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#USB_3.0 
 (though I'd say USB3 will not have some of the features of FW that  
make it great)

Maybe they're just cheap.
Maybe their research indicated no-one used FW on a MB.
Maybe they just can't afford the 25c per port fee to the inventors ;-)
Maybe I don't have Steve Jobs' vision.

and FW800 only in the MBP?? and no included FW400 convertor.

In any case they're futzing with an important part of the IT  AV  
industries. They *should* come clean as to their intentions and future  
for firewire.



My other gripes regarding the latest laptop announcements...
Keyboards: I like the full size, concave keys on my current Powerbook.  
I'm not sure about the toy keyboard with flat key tops and spaces.  
But maybe I could learn to live with it.

Glossy display only - no matte - yuk.
Price: Yeah, yeah, falling Aussie dollar, hard economic times.  MBPs  
start at $US1999 in US and $3199 in Aus.

No included video connection adapters

US$1999 =  A$3000.60 (as of today) and add 10% GST = $3300 which means  
it's not too bad at the moment. But normally Apple Aus hedges the  
currency fairly strongly in its favour and seems to rarely alter  
prices to reflect a strengthening A$.
Though even in the US, people are complaining about the prices. Maybe  
Apple are counting on their increasing market share to justify their  
prices (whatever the market can bear)


I normally hate comparing too much Apples with oranges, but  other  
manufacturers seem to make, import and sell similar specced laptops at  
half Apple's price. And I won't even mention LCD displays. Sure they  
don't have quite the style or the OS.


Huge number of gripes at http://forums.mactalk.com.au/29/59835-new-macbook-event-aftermath.html 



/gripes

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Re: podcast with garageband

2008-10-16 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Glenn,

On 16/10/2008, at 12:10 PM, Glenn Cardwell wrote:

My first ever use of the wamug group and I stuff up. This was an old  
message (yesterday) I had drafted and since then I found out more  
from the wamug website.


However, there is still a problem:

The podcast in Garageband (v4.1.2) was sent to my iTunes (8.0.1).  
The original version was 3.4 MB. When I get iTunes to convert to a  
mp3 files, the size increases to 8.1MB. As I want to upload this to  
Hipcast as a podcast (and later to iTunes), my gut feel is that the  
size is too big.


The bit rate has changed from 64 kbps to 192 kbps in the conversion.  
Is that the reason for the increase in size?


Yes, a higher bitrate creates a larger size file.
If you want to change the bitrate in iTunes:
1. Choose iTunes  Preferences - General and click Import Settings.

2. Choose an encoder from the Import Using pop-up menu (you select MP3)

3. Choose a bit rate from the Setting pop-up menu (you select custom)
Then under the Stereo Bitrate select a lower Bitrate

4. Click OK.

5. Select your track in iTunes then choose Advanced  Create MP3  
Version


Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a typical bit rate for a  
podcast, as they vary greatly from as low as 32 kbps up to around 128  
kbps.
As a rough guide to the use of different bit rates however, the  
following may be helpful:


320 kbps - Virtually indistinguishable from original CDs
128 kbps - Typical for musical MP3s and quality podcasts
64 kbps - Common bit rate for speech podcasts
48 kbps - Reasonably common for longer speech podcasts
32 kbps - Poor, usually used to reduce download times

Listen For Yourself:

http://www.siliconbay.co.uk/services/128kbps.mp3
http://www.siliconbay.co.uk/services/64kbps.mp3
 http://www.siliconbay.co.uk/services/32kbps.mp3


Is there a smarter way to do this?


I think you can direct Export to MP3 format in GarageBand v4.1.2

The Podcasters on WAMUG can probably give you more advice on Podcasting.

Cheers,
Ronni



Thanks again

Glenn

On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:55 AM, Glenn Cardwell wrote:

I have created a podcast in Garageband (v4.1.2) and sent it to my  
iTunes (under the Share button in Garageband). I then dragged it to  
the desktop just to make it easy to upload to Hipcast. It uploads  
fine, but ends up in the video section, not the audio which is  
where I want it. The podcast file has a suffix .m4a. If I convert  
to an mp3 it has a suffix .aif. Will this version upload better?


I have done a search of the internet but with no joy. Old advice  
says convert to AAC under the advanced button in iTunes, but  
there doesn't appear to be one with iTunes 8 (8.0.1).


I am grateful for any advice or websites that will help. Please  
keep any response simple as I have no idea what .m4a, .aif or AAC  
mean. Simply put, what is the best way to present a podcast to the  
world, well, Hipcast anyway?


Glenn


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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Shay Telfer

On 16/10/2008 4:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No maybe not but you might stop it being removed from the MacPros 
next time!


FireWire 800 was removed from the first MacBook Pros but reappeared 
in the second revision. FireWire may well reappear in the next 
revision.


Have fun,
Shay (awaiting FireWire 3200 
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/1394-trade-association-announces-firewire-3200,4566.html)

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Re: firewire gone missing

2008-10-16 Thread Susan Hastings
Yes, its interesting, because as a consumer user who uses my Mac for  
Word and Powerpoint, email, web, high definition video and  
photography, lack of the firewire port troubles me not at all. All of  
the consumer cameras connect by USB now.


I would miss the Firewire Target disk mode for transferring user data  
when setting up a new Mac, but there are other options for this.


However I've have had a MacBook Air for a few months, and find my main  
gripe is the lack of a second USB port - nice as the trackpad is, I  
still want to use a mouse and be able to do one other thing, such as  
use ethernet based internet, or burn a disk. If I use a USB hub, I'm  
adding one more bit of tech stuff to carry around, and I have never  
found them to work very well.


So, the new Macbook, with the beautiful LED screen like my Macbook  
Air, but with lots of ports and an optical drive sounds very well  
endowed to me.




On 16/10/2008, at 4:50 PM, Lodge family wrote:

We were considering the cheaper option of the other side at our  
school.

This cuts out many options and puts Apple out unfortunately.
We will not be leasing the more expensive machines.
Rob

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Re: Importing vCard groups

2008-10-16 Thread Stuart Breden


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On 15/10/2008, at 11:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 15/10/2008, at 7:10 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:


Hi there

How do you import Address Book vCard groups?


Hi Stuart,

Seeing as no-one has replied to your question, I'll ask a couple of  
questions  give suggestions below.


Have these groups been exported from another Apple Address Book by  
selecting the group  'Export  Export Group vcards?

No.  I've got Address Book v4.1.1.  There is no Export Group vCards.


NB: Notes  photos are not exported by default. To include these  
fields when you export cards, choose Address Book  Preferences, and  
then click vCard. Select “Export Notes in vCards” and “Export photos  
in vCards.”


1. Do you have a Group with the same name in the Address Book you  
want to import the Group vCard into?

Not yet!



If you already have contacts in a Group with the same name that you  
are going to import the 'exported' Group vcard into, it will ask on  
import do you want to overwrite the current one or merge them  
together into one contact.


2. If you don't have a contact Group with the same name where you  
want to Import the Group

you'll need to create those groups in Address Book first:

a) Create a new group. Select it (it should be blank, so you'll see  
no contacts).


b) Drag your group Vcard into the window.

NB:  Before you do any of this, always make a backup of your Address  
Book (Choose File  Export  Address Book Archive, choose a name for  
the file  select where you ant to export the file to) in case you  
make a mistake, as well as after you make any change (add, delete,  
make notes, etc).


Cheers,
Ronni





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firewire gone missing

2008-10-16 Thread Lodge family

We were considering the cheaper option of the other side at our school.
This cuts out many options and puts Apple out unfortunately.
We will not be leasing the more expensive machines.
Rob

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Re: podcast with garageband

2008-10-16 Thread Glenn Cardwell
Thanks Ronni. Really appreciate you taking the time to help me. I have  
now been able to create a mp3 with your adivce. Still having some  
difficulty uploading to Hipcast, but that is my problem.


Glenn

On 16 Oct 2008, at 6:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Glenn,

On 16/10/2008, at 12:10 PM, Glenn Cardwell wrote:

My first ever use of the wamug group and I stuff up. This was an  
old message (yesterday) I had drafted and since then I found out  
more from the wamug website.


However, there is still a problem:

The podcast in Garageband (v4.1.2) was sent to my iTunes (8.0.1).  
The original version was 3.4 MB. When I get iTunes to convert to a  
mp3 files, the size increases to 8.1MB. As I want to upload this to  
Hipcast as a podcast (and later to iTunes), my gut feel is that the  
size is too big.


The bit rate has changed from 64 kbps to 192 kbps in the  
conversion. Is that the reason for the increase in size?


Yes, a higher bitrate creates a larger size file.
If you want to change the bitrate in iTunes:
1. Choose iTunes  Preferences - General and click Import Settings.

2. Choose an encoder from the Import Using pop-up menu (you select  
MP3)


3. Choose a bit rate from the Setting pop-up menu (you select custom)
Then under the Stereo Bitrate select a lower Bitrate

4. Click OK.

5. Select your track in iTunes then choose Advanced  Create MP3  
Version


Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a typical bit rate for a  
podcast, as they vary greatly from as low as 32 kbps up to around  
128 kbps.
As a rough guide to the use of different bit rates however, the  
following may be helpful:


320 kbps - Virtually indistinguishable from original CDs
128 kbps - Typical for musical MP3s and quality podcasts
64 kbps - Common bit rate for speech podcasts
48 kbps - Reasonably common for longer speech podcasts
32 kbps - Poor, usually used to reduce download times

Listen For Yourself:

http://www.siliconbay.co.uk/services/128kbps.mp3
http://www.siliconbay.co.uk/services/64kbps.mp3
http://www.siliconbay.co.uk/services/32kbps.mp3


Is there a smarter way to do this?


I think you can direct Export to MP3 format in GarageBand v4.1.2

The Podcasters on WAMUG can probably give you more advice on  
Podcasting.


Cheers,
Ronni



Thanks again

Glenn

On 16 Oct 2008, at 11:55 AM, Glenn Cardwell wrote:

I have created a podcast in Garageband (v4.1.2) and sent it to my  
iTunes (under the Share button in Garageband). I then dragged it  
to the desktop just to make it easy to upload to Hipcast. It  
uploads fine, but ends up in the video section, not the audio  
which is where I want it. The podcast file has a suffix .m4a. If I  
convert to an mp3 it has a suffix .aif. Will this version upload  
better?


I have done a search of the internet but with no joy. Old advice  
says convert to AAC under the advanced button in iTunes, but  
there doesn't appear to be one with iTunes 8 (8.0.1).


I am grateful for any advice or websites that will help. Please  
keep any response simple as I have no idea what .m4a, .aif or AAC  
mean. Simply put, what is the best way to present a podcast to the  
world, well, Hipcast anyway?


Glenn


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Re: Importing vCard groups

2008-10-16 Thread Ronda Brown

Hello Stuart,

On 16/10/2008, at 8:48 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:



Hi there

How do you import Address Book vCard groups?


Hi Stuart,

Seeing as no-one has replied to your question, I'll ask a couple of  
questions  give suggestions below.


Have these groups been exported from another Apple Address Book by  
selecting the group  'Export  Export Group vcards?

No.  I've got Address Book v4.1.1.  There is no Export Group vCards.


Yes there is:
1. In Address Book v4.1.1 Click on the Group you want to export
2. File  Export - Export Group vCard




NB: Notes  photos are not exported by default. To include these  
fields when you export cards, choose Address Book  Preferences,  
and then click vCard. Select “Export Notes in vCards” and “Export  
photos in vCards.”


1. Do you have a Group with the same name in the Address Book you  
want to import the Group vCard into?

Not yet!



If you already have contacts in a Group with the same name that you  
are going to import the 'exported' Group vcard into, it will ask on  
import do you want to overwrite the current one or merge them  
together into one contact.


2. If you don't have a contact Group with the same name where you  
want to Import the Group

you'll need to create those groups in Address Book first:

a) Create a new group. Select it (it should be blank, so you'll see  
no contacts).


b) Drag your group Vcard into the window.

NB:  Before you do any of this, always make a backup of your  
Address Book (Choose File  Export  Address Book Archive, choose a  
name for the file  select where you ant to export the file to) in  
case you make a mistake, as well as after you make any change (add,  
delete, make notes, etc).


Cheers,
Ronni


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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread James / Hans Kunz

hi Warren
bear in mind with all your comments, apples are much cheaper than a  
few years ago, but if you go through the news groups letter  
collection - who has big problems - all the ones who are using the  
cheaper apples (imac, ibook  more) but how many powerbooks failed??
my powerbook g4 17 (A$6000.- inJan 04) is still doing an exellent  
job.i think it's the last quality built computer made by apple
if you want cheap stuff from apple it will go the same way as the  
machines on the darker side


removing firewire can cause havock with professionals in the audio   
video industry, they suddenly cannot connect their drives  
anymore..like myself
i would have to change to the dark side because everything is cheaper  
 in that way you can spend money for adaptors/converters to reuse  
the fw-drives


cheers  James

On 16/10/2008, at 16:34, Warren Jones wrote:

Yes Apple do some damn wonderful things. And they also do some damn  
stupid things.


Removing firewire is ridiculous for many reasons.
Maybe they're abandoning it for USB 3 eventually. http:// 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#USB_3.0 (though I'd say USB3 will not  
have some of the features of FW that make it great)

Maybe they're just cheap.
Maybe their research indicated no-one used FW on a MB.
Maybe they just can't afford the 25c per port fee to the inventors ;-)
Maybe I don't have Steve Jobs' vision.

and FW800 only in the MBP?? and no included FW400 convertor.

In any case they're futzing with an important part of the IT  AV  
industries. They *should* come clean as to their intentions and  
future for firewire.




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Re: Firewire on a MacBook

2008-10-16 Thread Peder Kristensen

Hi All,

There has been a lot of discussion re the removal of the FireWire port  
on the new MacBook. Well, here is a link to MacFixIt page that gives  
some options to the different problems, like TargerDisk and attaching  
FireWire devices:

 http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20081015220226873

Not as flash as having a genuine FireWire port but it may be of help.

Cheers,
Peder


On 16/10/2008, at 15:41 , Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Apple are not keeping up with the deleting ... there is a lot of  
discussion on the Apple Discussions.
http://discussions.apple.com/search.jspa?objID=c1search=Goq=no+firewire+ports+on+new+MacBooks 



Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 3:38 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Ronni

Thanks for the info on the apple threads. that is amazing!

Big mistake by Apple

My 15 MacBook Pro will be with me for quite awhile

regards to all

chris

On 16/10/2008, at 3:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi People,

Apple have been deleting any threads on this subject on the Apple  
Discussion Boards.


MacFixit has this to say:

FireWire omission on new MacBooks a troubleshooting, iMove  
nightmare;

Apple censors threads -
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20081014223302211 (Alert
Trigger: Late-Breakers)
Apple's omission of a FireWire port on the new Aluminum (Late 2008)
MacBooks is stirring discontent among MacFIxIt readers and on  
Apple's

discussion boards.As written by one MacFixIt reader:What is
Apple thinking? Where is the FireWire port? How are we going to do  
target

firewire mode?Indeed, the elimination of FireWire target disk mode
leaves a huge troubleshooting gap. Many users utilize FireWire  
target disk
mode to diagnose issues, retrieve files from otherwise defunct  
computers,
run disk repairs while booted from another drive in lieu of a Mac  
OS X

startup disc and perform other procedures.Apple is now removing
threads on its own discussion boards that mention the lack of  
FireWire

connectivity on the new MacBooks. MacFixIt reader Scott Rose
writes:Apparently, Apple doesn't want anybody talking about the  
lack
of FireWire ports on the new MacBooks, because they keep deleting  
every
thread that people are posting about the lack of FireWire ports on  
the New

MacBooks! I was participating in 3 different threads on the Apple
Discussion Boards regarding the lack of FireWire from the new  
MacBooks,
and Apple has removed every single thread regarding this topic.  
There are

no threads left on the Apple Discussion Boards regarding this
issue!The elimination of FireWire also spells trouble for iMovie
users, who will no longer be able to directly connect cameras that  
use the
protocol. The new MacBooks still ship with iMovie, but Apple  
apparently
expects users to work with a USB-capable camera or import data to  
another

system first.An Apple employee posting on the company's discussion
boards says that USB is the preferred interface for iMovie  
'08.There
are limited USB-to-FireWire converters, but most don't provide  
power or

6-pin connectivity.

I honestly don't know ... what were Apple thinking, taking  
Firewire away seems ridiculous to me.
I'll be keeping my 17 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz with its Firewire Port  
that has a 6 Port Firewire Hub connected.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/10/2008, at 2:18 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

err. do what Apple obviously want you to do and buy the  
MacBook Pros (and a FW800-FW400 cable/port adaptor)...




apart from that... not much... really.  Given how there was much  
rejoicing when Apple put the firewire ports on to the later model  
iBooks and carried them over to the non Pro model MacBooks the  
latest change is a real step back... honestly if they wanted to  
move on from FW400 I'm sure they could have replaced it with a  
FW800 in the lower end MacBooks.



On 16/10/2008, at 11:24 AM, Eugene wrote:


Hi all,

now that Apple has decided to forgo the Firewire port on the  
MacBook is anyone aware of a solution to transfer video from a  
video camera with firewire out to one of these new MacBooks? Is  
there any adaptors /  methods that can do this?


We have half a dozen of these cameras and don't want to discard  
them just because Apple has gone cheap on us..


 Regards,
 Eugene


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Re: Apple unveils new 24-inch LED Cinema Display

2008-10-16 Thread Martin Hill
Yes one feature that intrigues me about the DisplayPort spec is the  
ability to daisy-chain several monitors off the one port (anyone else  
also wanted to plug more than one screen into their laptop?)


I don't know whether Apple's implementation supports this option yet  
but I would love to spread my work out over 2 external 24 monitors. :-)


Having a single cable supplying video, audio, USB and even power to a  
monitor finally brings the old Next idea (replicated in the ADC  
connector) out into the general market. It only took 20 years or  
something. Steve must be sitting there shaking his head that it takes  
so long for some of his ideas to finally come to fruition.


-Mart

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On 16/10/2008 4:20 PM, Rod wrote:
Big difference is the DisplayPort is a royalty free standard from  
VESA,

  not a proprietory connector from Apple. Dell also have laptops
available with this connector. I'd bank on it replacing hdmi as the
video connection on computers.

Seeya

Rod


DisplayPort looks pretty good...

http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=articlearticleid=CA6594089

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Re: Apple unveils new 24-inch LED Cinema Display

2008-10-16 Thread Daniel Kerr
A well that makes it ok then :o)
If it's gets used more often,..then it's all good!
See,..knew I might have missed something. But you get that on 4 hours sleep
in 2 day,...lol :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 16/10/08 4:20 PM, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Big difference is the DisplayPort is a royalty free standard from
 VESA,  not a proprietory connector from Apple.  Dell also have laptops
 available with this connector.  I'd bank on it replacing hdmi as the
 video connection on computers.
 
 Seeya
 
 Rod
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 2:53 PM, Daniel Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is it just me, or does this seem very similar to the days of ADC on
 the
 LCD's?
 Nice monitor, I'd like to run it on my older computer (or Windows).
 Sure,..you just need to buy this $350 adapter)
 Oh,...nevermind
 
 If they do the same with this monitor that you can't run it on other
 computers/iMac'/towers/DVI port, then it does seem very similar.
 
 Unless I'm missing something here
 Kind Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 16/10/08 2:23 PM, Mark Secker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 probably won't see one going the other way for a while, if ever (at
 least from Apple),
 
 Display port will allow a DVI  VGA signal through to a non Display
 Port monitor but to plug a DVI or VGA port in to a Display Port
 monitor you'd need some active device that will allow encoding of
 analogue and/or decoding/recoding of DVI in to Display port digital
 signal.
 
 
 On 16/10/2008, at 11:00 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Is it just me?
 
 The first thing I thought when I heard about the new 24 display,
 with the
 iMac styling, was - Wow - what a really nice 2 display set-up you
 could have
 with this sat next to a 24 iMac.
 
 However, all the Apple blurb touts this as a laptop display - no
 mention of
 using it as a second screen or screen for say a MacPro.
 
 Presumably, this is because it uses a new mini display port which
 is only
 compatible with the new laptops - though they may offer adaptors
 when the
 displays ship (at present the only adaptors seem to be for the
 laptops mini
 display port to allow you to use a dvi or vga monitor).
 
 I know apple are still selling the 23 cinema display - but the  new
 24
 looks to be a so much better match with the 24 iMacs!!
 
 So.. what can we expect? New adaptors/cables or a new iMac with the
 new
 mini display port?
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 
 
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WD Mybookworld problem

2008-10-16 Thread Alex Novakovic

Hi WAMugians

I have a WD Mybookworld ext Hard Drive connected to my router. When it  
is visible on my iMac, all is well.  However, if for some reason I  
power it off, I often have a real hard time re-connecting to it. I  
open the finder thru the iMac's HD, Network appears above the HD in  
the first column but the Mybookworld does not appear in the second  
column.  Most of the time I can click to my heart's (dis)content and  
nothing will happen, and then all of a sudden it decides to play  
ball.  Yesterday I gave up.  Today it connected after many clicks on  
Network.


I think I must be doing something wrong here?  Have I not set it up  
correctly, by any chance?  Can someone please give me a pointer? iMac  
is running 10.4.11


I can't seem to get it at all on my MacBook Pro running 10.5.2.  When  
I open Finder it does not appear under Devices. (Although it just did  
now AFTER I managed to connect to it on the iMac) I hope this makes  
sense to someone.


Many thanks in advance, cheers, Alex

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Artificial Intelligence Robot

2008-10-16 Thread Peter Sealy

If you enjoyed Apple's inbuilt psychotherapist interview try this:

http://www.elbot.com/




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Getting Movies from DVD to Mac

2008-10-16 Thread Rod Blitvich
Hi WAMUGERs
Whilst it costs $19 US, it might be of interest to some people.
Cheers
Blitto

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/10/16/ripit-yanks-your-dvds-right-off-the-disc/
 
 HandBrake handles most of my DVD-ripping responsibilities just fine, but
RipIt came to our attention recently, and as a simple one-touch way to get a
movie off of a DVD and on to your hard drive (in order to, say, watch it on
a laptop without lugging the disc itself along), it looks pretty simple. In
fact, it's about as cake as these things get: load up the app, throw a disc
in your drive, and press Rip -- a few minutes later (a 7.9gb rip took about
30 minutes for me), you've got a DVDPlayerMedia file on your hard drive to
watch at your leisure.

It's $18.99, which is pricey, especially (again) compared to HandBrake,
which is conveniently open source, and provides tons more ways to rip
things. But if you do a lot of movie ripping and want to have one single
button rather than worrying about formats or encoding, that $19 might be
well spent

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Re: WD Mybookworld problem

2008-10-16 Thread James / Hans Kunz
i had similar problems with some of my 10 firewire connected drives,  
i found that powerup the drive, wait approx 30s then plug in the fw  
cable gets the router  mac to read the drive

did you try this?

James


On 17/10/2008, at 0:26, Alex Novakovic wrote:


Hi WAMugians

I have a WD Mybookworld ext Hard Drive connected to my router. When  
it is visible on my iMac, all is well.  However, if for some reason  
I power it off, I often have a real hard time re-connecting to it.  
I open the finder thru the iMac's HD, Network appears above the HD  
in the first column but the Mybookworld does not appear in the  
second column.  Most of the time I can click to my heart's (dis) 
content and nothing will happen, and then all of a sudden it  
decides to play ball.  Yesterday I gave up.  Today it connected  
after many clicks on Network.


I think I must be doing something wrong here?  Have I not set it up  
correctly, by any chance?  Can someone please give me a pointer?  
iMac is running 10.4.11


I can't seem to get it at all on my MacBook Pro running 10.5.2.   
When I open Finder it does not appear under Devices. (Although it  
just did now AFTER I managed to connect to it on the iMac) I hope  
this makes sense to someone.


Many thanks in advance, cheers, Alex

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iMac wireless not working (kinda)

2008-10-16 Thread Tobes


Hi guys, I have a 24 iMac (just prior to current Gen), an iBook (just  
prior to current gen) and a WEP enabled wireless network running over  
an iinet/belkin ADSL2 modem.


The iBook connects to the network using a WEP key.

The iMac (when Booted under Vista) connects to the network via the WEP  
key.


The iMac (when running 10.5.5) keeps getting a 'connection failed'  
message.


Any advice gratefully appreciated. I'm recovering from spinal surgery  
at home, and have the iMac set up on a wheelie table in the bedroom.


I've got an ethernet cable running to the modem at the moment, but  
it's just a matter of time before I (or someone else) trips over it.


Cheers,
T.

P.S. Quick google search didn't net anything, but I'm not sure if my  
keywords were appropriate.


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Fixed Re: iMac wireless not working (kinda)

2008-10-16 Thread Tobes

Scratch that - worked it out on my own.

Had to force the network settings to reset.

Cheers,
t.

On 17/10/2008, at 8:22 AM, Tobes wrote:



Hi guys, I have a 24 iMac (just prior to current Gen), an iBook  
(just prior to current gen) and a WEP enabled wireless network  
running over an iinet/belkin ADSL2 modem.


The iBook connects to the network using a WEP key.

The iMac (when Booted under Vista) connects to the network via the  
WEP key.


The iMac (when running 10.5.5) keeps getting a 'connection failed'  
message.


Any advice gratefully appreciated. I'm recovering from spinal  
surgery at home, and have the iMac set up on a wheelie table in the  
bedroom.


I've got an ethernet cable running to the modem at the moment, but  
it's just a matter of time before I (or someone else) trips over it.


Cheers,
T.

P.S. Quick google search didn't net anything, but I'm not sure if my  
keywords were appropriate.


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Re: Getting Movies from DVD to Mac

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Howells

AND

here is another way , courtesy of a WAMUG message from Rob Davies on  
8.8.2004


In Disk Utility
create a new Image from the DVD  by selecting new image on the toolbar
place it wherever you decide on your hard drive .

After it has been created , mount the image and use VLC  ( free ) to  
play it .


It took my PPC 1.6 Ghz G5 about 1 hour 20 to create the image of 6.9  
GB DVD


Have fun

Bob




On 17/10/2008, at 6:45 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGERs
Whilst it costs $19 US, it might be of interest to some people.
Cheers
Blitto

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/10/16/ripit-yanks-your-dvds-right-off-the-disc/

 HandBrake handles most of my DVD-ripping responsibilities just  
fine, but
RipIt came to our attention recently, and as a simple one-touch way  
to get a
movie off of a DVD and on to your hard drive (in order to, say,  
watch it on
a laptop without lugging the disc itself along), it looks pretty  
simple. In
fact, it's about as cake as these things get: load up the app, throw  
a disc
in your drive, and press Rip -- a few minutes later (a 7.9gb rip  
took about
30 minutes for me), you've got a DVDPlayerMedia file on your hard  
drive to

watch at your leisure.

It's $18.99, which is pricey, especially (again) compared to  
HandBrake,

which is conveniently open source, and provides tons more ways to rip
things. But if you do a lot of movie ripping and want to have one  
single
button rather than worrying about formats or encoding, that $19  
might be

well spent

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Re: Firewire on a MacBook - Jobs responds

2008-10-16 Thread Warren Jones
In one of his characteristically terse email replies, Apple chief  
executive Steve Jobs has reportedly told one Mac user that changes in  
video camera technology have reduced the need for FireWire on his  
company's 13-inch MacBooks.


continues at...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/16/jobs_responds_to_outrage_over_macbooks_missing_firewire.html 



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