Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users
Hello Everyone I just successfully installed Safari 4 on a G4 400 running 10.4.11. I used software update and had no problems. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 0438 833 144 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 09/06/2009, at 1:42 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hello list Just a warning for those on the list who have NOTupgraded to OS 10 .5.7 IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am ) on OS 10.5.6 or less theNEWSAFARI 4 installer willNOT let you instal unless you have 10.5.7 SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in anticipation of installing the New Safari 4 . Have fun then Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users
Hi all, Also, just a heads up for those of you currently using Safari 3 plugins like Sogudi and AcidSearch: If you upgrade to Safari 4 and do not first uninstall/remove these plugins you will most likely find that Safari 4 refuses to launch. Depending on where you installed (for one user or all), removing the following folders should get Safari 4 up and running again: ~/Library/Application Support/SIMBL ~/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL Sogudi is no longer supported, hence it will not work with Safari 4. The best alternative I have found is Keywurl, although at time of writing it appears to be awaiting an upgrade to coincide with this latest Safari 4 release. Regards. - Matt Huitson School of Psychology University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway Crawley, WA 6009 Australia Work +61 8 6488 3269 On 09/06/2009, at 2:04 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello Everyone I just successfully installed Safari 4 on a G4 400 running 10.4.11. I used software update and had no problems. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 0438 833 144 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 09/06/2009, at 1:42 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hello list Just a warning for those on the list who have NOTupgraded to OS 10 .5.7 IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am ) on OS 10.5.6 or less theNEWSAFARI 4 installer willNOT let you instal unless you have 10.5.7 SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in anticipation of installing the New Safari 4 . Have fun then Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
CAD progs at TAFE?
We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users
Hi Greg Bob, There are two versions of the New Safari 4. One is for Tiger 10.4.11, which you would have downloaded installed using Software Update Greg. The other version Safari for Leopard' requires Leopard 10.5.7. Macintosh Requirements • Any Mac running Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.7 or Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.11 and Security Update 2009-002 • Mac with an Intel processor or a Power PC G5, G4, or G3 processor and built-in FireWire® • 256MB of RAM • Top Sites and Cover Flow on Mac OS X Tiger require a Quartz-Extreme compatible video card Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 2:04 PM, Greg Manzie wrote: Hello Everyone I just successfully installed Safari 4 on a G4 400 running 10.4.11. I used software update and had no problems. Regards Greg Manzie Director Glyde Gallery Conservation Conservators, Consultants and Picture Framers for Museums, Art Galleries and Collectors 5 Glyde Street Mosman Park Western Australia 6012 ABN 89 154 124 265 Phone (08) 9383 3929 Mobile 0448 844 381 0438 833 144 Email gman...@bigpond.net.au On 09/06/2009, at 1:42 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Hello list Just a warning for those on the list who have NOTupgraded to OS 10 .5.7 IF you are usingSafari 4 Beta ( as I am ) on OS 10.5.6 or less theNEWSAFARI 4 installer willNOT let you instal unless you have 10.5.7 SO if you wish to continue to use Safari 4 Beta do NOT delete it in anticipation of installing the New Safari 4 . Have fun then Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Ebay and Java update
I haven't been able to use ebay recently and their helpline has suggested I upgrade my Java. My present version seems to be Java 1.4.2 and the latest 1.6.13. However when I try to upgrade, Java refers me to my software update page and that doesn't mention any Java updates Thanks, Dick Anderson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Ebay and Java update
On 09/06/2009, at 3:09 PM, Richard Anderson wrote: I haven't been able to use ebay recently and their helpline has suggested I upgrade my Java. My present version seems to be Java 1.4.2 and the latest 1.6.13. However when I try to upgrade, Java refers me to my software update page and that doesn't mention any Java updates Hi Richard, What Operating System are you running ... OS X 10.5.7 or ? If your Software Update application is not showing any security updates or any updates, there are none for your system. Do you have Java enabled? Safari Preferences - Security: Web Content Enable Java Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Hi Paul, I don't have specific information re TAFE however at Curtin we use Archicad 12 which is free for students and runs on Mac OS X and Windows - go to www.graphisoft.com. We also use AutoCAD which is really not free, and Windows only, however one of my colleagues has tested it with Parallels and it works well under that - there is a Student discount available. The product design people also use SolidWorks - again a student discount is available. Good luck. Regards, Chris. From: Paul Weaver pwea...@westnet.com.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:43:18 +0800 (WST) To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: CAD progs at TAFE? We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Safari 4
I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Ronda, Thanks. It works when you go there first and then go to other parts of the Apple site. Regards Tony On 09/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: WARNING ... Safari beta users
Thanks Matt, You are exactly right. Without that information I would not have known where to look to get Safari 4 to stay open. I have never heard of SIMBL before ! Lloyd Hi all, Also, just a heads up for those of you currently using Safari 3 plugins like Sogudi and AcidSearch: If you upgrade to Safari 4 and do not first uninstall/remove these plugins you will most likely find that Safari 4 refuses to launch. Depending on where you installed (for one user or all), removing the following folders should get Safari 4 up and running again: ~/Library/Application Support/SIMBL ~/Library/InputManagers/SIMBL Sogudi is no longer supported, hence it will not work with Safari 4. The best alternative I have found is Keywurl, although at time of writing it appears to be awaiting an upgrade to coincide with this latest Safari 4 release. -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
I don't know what TAFE offers but a colleague of mine in the engineering business told me today that 'AutoCAD are now writing for Mac', if that is of any help. Merv We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Actually if you want to see what Curtin has in it's computer labs you can go to http://complabs.curtin.edu.au - check out 201.219 in Humanities - it's an Architecture lab. I forgot Google SketchUp Pro which is really great. I don't have specific information re TAFE however at Curtin we use Archicad 12 which is free for students and runs on Mac OS X and Windows - go to www.graphisoft.com. We also use AutoCAD which is really not free, and Windows only, however one of my colleagues has tested it with Parallels and it works well under that - there is a Student discount available. The product design people also use SolidWorks - again a student discount is available. From: Paul Weaver pwea...@westnet.com.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:43:18 +0800 (WST) To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: CAD progs at TAFE? We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Hi Ruben, Firstly it is FAST ... really fast on an Intel MacBook Pro! Safari 4.0 has almost 50 security fixes, both in the browser and WebKit. Lots of potential security holes plugged. One major change to the interface from the beta involves tabs. In the beta, Apple experimented with a Chrome-style tabs-on-top that it has abandoned in the public release. The font for the tabs was often hard to read, and made Safari look excessively like Chrome. The new tab style now looks much like the old tab style. Cover Flow is now available as a graphic way to browse your bookmarks and history, however, if you've got a somewhat older computer you still won't be able to use any of these graphics improvements. Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Safari 4 is also the first non-beta browser to fully complete the Acid3 Web standards compliance test. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ The URL bar does feature smart surfing, but only for including your history and bookmarks--much like Internet Explorer. Chrome and Firefox remain the only browsers to default to Google's feeling lucky style of searching from the location bar. There are system files in the OS X System folders changed by the Safari 4 install (that's why there is a restart of the computer). Apple's big claim with Safari is that it's the fastest browser on the market, and from latest results around the Internet ... Apple just might be correct. 150 features http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 4:05 PM, Dark1 wrote: Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Ebay and Java update
On 09/06/2009, at 3:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 09/06/2009, at 3:09 PM, Richard Anderson wrote: I haven't been able to use ebay recently and their helpline has suggested I upgrade my Java. My present version seems to be Java 1.4.2 and the latest 1.6.13. However when I try to upgrade, Java refers me to my software update page and that doesn't mention any Java updates Hi Richard, What Operating System are you running ... OS X 10.5.7 or ? If your Software Update application is not showing any security updates or any updates, there are none for your system. Dick try it another way ! Please tell us what version OSX you are running ? and does software update tell you it has anything for you ? Sometimes you need to instal one update before it will tell you there is another ! Bob Do you have Java enabled? Safari Preferences - Security: Web Content Enable Java Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Hi Ronni Thanks for all the info. Some of those features are already present in the beta version but it certainly looks like it's still worth upgrading. I'm running a 2.66GHz (Overclocked to 3.8GHz) Nehalem Quad Core Hackintosh so there's certainly no problems with my computer not being fast enough to get all the bells and whistles. Ruben Hi Ruben, Firstly it is FAST ... really fast on an Intel MacBook Pro! Safari 4.0 has almost 50 security fixes, both in the browser and WebKit. Lots of potential security holes plugged. One major change to the interface from the beta involves tabs. In the beta, Apple experimented with a Chrome-style tabs-on-top that it has abandoned in the public release. The font for the tabs was often hard to read, and made Safari look excessively like Chrome. The new tab style now looks much like the old tab style. Cover Flow is now available as a graphic way to browse your bookmarks and history, however, if you've got a somewhat older computer you still won't be able to use any of these graphics improvements. Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Safari 4 is also the first non-beta browser to fully complete the Acid3 Web standards compliance test. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ The URL bar does feature smart surfing, but only for including your history and bookmarks--much like Internet Explorer. Chrome and Firefox remain the only browsers to default to Google's feeling lucky style of searching from the location bar. There are system files in the OS X System folders changed by the Safari 4 install (that's why there is a restart of the computer). Apple's big claim with Safari is that it's the fastest browser on the market, and from latest results around the Internet ... Apple just might be correct. 150 features http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 4:05 PM, Dark1 wrote: Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Paul, Leederville uses AutoCad. There is a student version which is available. details can be obtained from college dept. Bad news is it wont run on the imac. It will run on a Macbook Pro under windows. Suggest if interested look at the new Mac book pro 13 John Hatch On Tue Jun 9 14:43 , Paul Weaver pwea...@westnet.com.au sent: We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug- unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Upgraded from the beta to Safari 4 using the automated installer on an iMac 24 with 10.5.7. No issues at all with update. It does seem to be even faster than the beta (which was fast). So worth the upgrade. Glenn Nicholas 2009/6/9 Dark1 da...@iinet.net.au: Hi Ronni Thanks for all the info. Some of those features are already present in the beta version but it certainly looks like it's still worth upgrading. I'm running a 2.66GHz (Overclocked to 3.8GHz) Nehalem Quad Core Hackintosh so there's certainly no problems with my computer not being fast enough to get all the bells and whistles. Ruben Hi Ruben, Firstly it is FAST ... really fast on an Intel MacBook Pro! Safari 4.0 has almost 50 security fixes, both in the browser and WebKit. Lots of potential security holes plugged. One major change to the interface from the beta involves tabs. In the beta, Apple experimented with a Chrome-style tabs-on-top that it has abandoned in the public release. The font for the tabs was often hard to read, and made Safari look excessively like Chrome. The new tab style now looks much like the old tab style. Cover Flow is now available as a graphic way to browse your bookmarks and history, however, if you've got a somewhat older computer you still won't be able to use any of these graphics improvements. Another new change in the public release is that browser crashes caused by plug-ins like Flash are now sandboxed. If Flash or Shockwave crash, only that plug-in will be affected. The page that it's on will continue to function, and you can reactivate the plug-in by reloading the page. Safari 4 is also the first non-beta browser to fully complete the Acid3 Web standards compliance test. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ The URL bar does feature smart surfing, but only for including your history and bookmarks--much like Internet Explorer. Chrome and Firefox remain the only browsers to default to Google's feeling lucky style of searching from the location bar. There are system files in the OS X System folders changed by the Safari 4 install (that's why there is a restart of the computer). Apple's big claim with Safari is that it's the fastest browser on the market, and from latest results around the Internet ... Apple just might be correct. 150 features http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. Cheers, Ronni On 09/06/2009, at 4:05 PM, Dark1 wrote: Is there any advantage in upgrading to 4.0 from the 4.0 beta? Everything seems to be running fine on the beta and as far as I'm aware the lastest version doesn't offer any additional features. Ruben Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 On 09/06/2009, at 3:54 PM, Tony Cockbain wrote: I can get apple.com/au/ but when I click on 'Store', Safari 4 quits. I have no trouble in getting to Store with Firefox. Tony Cockbain Editor Australian Journal of Earth Sciences PO Box 8114 Angelo Street South Perth WA 6151 Australia Tel 08 9367 7037 (61 8 9367 7037) Mobile 0439 690 947 geoe...@arach.net.au Truth emerges more readily from error than from confusion [Francis Bacon] The Great Tragedy of Science — the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact [Thomas Huxley] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Hi Paul Try 3D Home Architect http://www.3dhaonline.com/ Your daughter can borrow my copy provided she help me use. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Hm Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Wk Ph: (08) 9291 4599 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 09/06/2009, at 2:43 PM, Paul Weaver wrote: We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Toast is full
Hi folks, can anyone tell me why Toast 8 would indicate it's full with only one small track loaded? This is in Audio CD in Toast. Toast 8 Titanium, OSX 10.4.11 on a G5. it's nothing to do with space, it's purely in the Toast window that it indicates the Audio is full with one track in there. Used a brand new disc. I've tried reloading Toast (8) but no good, regards thanks, Ken -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Ebay and Java update
Java 1.6 will only run on 64bit machines in the Mac world peter meyer 0408 902349 pmo...@people.net.au On 09/06/2009, at 5:32 PM, Robert Howells wrote: On 09/06/2009, at 3:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 09/06/2009, at 3:09 PM, Richard Anderson wrote: I haven't been able to use ebay recently and their helpline has suggested I upgrade my Java. My present version seems to be Java 1.4.2 and the latest 1.6.13. However when I try to upgrade, Java refers me to my software update page and that doesn't mention any Java updates Hi Richard, What Operating System are you running ... OS X 10.5.7 or ? If your Software Update application is not showing any security updates or any updates, there are none for your system. Dick try it another way ! Please tell us what version OSX you are running ? and does software update tell you it has anything for you ? Sometimes you need to instal one update before it will tell you there is another ! Bob Do you have Java enabled? Safari Preferences - Security: Web Content Enable Java Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Thank you for all the useful advice so far. Plenty of Mac CAD options. What drove this question was that we can take advantage of the ATO's 50 percent Education Tax Refund if we make a parental decision on a new computer before the end of the month. We are thinking a new 24 inch iMac for $1250 might be handy for our daughter's ongoing CAD efforts. One other question. Is there a standard format for saved CAD files so that they can be read by different CAD apps? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Paul, Be careful. If you are enrolling at Central to do the drafting course at Leederville then they will only being using AutoCad and will need to read autocad files. Trust me I work here john On Tue Jun 9 20:03 , Paul Weaver pwea...@westnet.com.au sent: Thank you for all the useful advice so far. Plenty of Mac CAD options. What drove this question was that we can take advantage of the ATO's 50 percent Education Tax Refund if we make a parental decision on a new computer before the end of the month. We are thinking a new 24 inch iMac for $1250 might be handy for our daughter's ongoing CAD efforts. One other question. Is there a standard format for saved CAD files so that they can be read by different CAD apps? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug- unsubscr...@wamug.org.au ) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Hi Paul, would it not be safer to have run Windows on the iMac and have AutoCAD run under that? TAFE are not very Mac friendly, and if there are transfer problems, they may not be able to help your daughter. cheers, Susan. On 09/06/2009, at 8:30 PM, j...@iinet.net.au wrote: Paul, Be careful. If you are enrolling at Central to do the drafting course at Leederville then they will only being using AutoCad and will need to read autocad files. Trust me I work here john On Tue Jun 9 20:03 , Paul Weaver pwea...@westnet.com.au sent: Thank you for all the useful advice so far. Plenty of Mac CAD options. What drove this question was that we can take advantage of the ATO's 50 percent Education Tax Refund if we make a parental decision on a new computer before the end of the month. We are thinking a new 24 inch iMac for $1250 might be handy for our daughter's ongoing CAD efforts. One other question. Is there a standard format for saved CAD files so that they can be read by different CAD apps? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug- unsubscr...@wamug.org.au ) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
WWDC download file wanted
Hi All Has anyone manage to save the WWDC keynote 2009 file from anywhere . Thanks Bart. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Toast is full
On 09/06/2009, at 7:23 PM, Ken Jackson wrote: Hi folks, can anyone tell me why Toast 8 would indicate it's full with only one small track loaded? This is in Audio CD in Toast. Toast 8 Titanium, OSX 10.4.11 on a G5. it's nothing to do with space, it's purely in the Toast window that it indicates the Audio is full with one track in there. ken , Has this one track been burnt on to the disc , or is this when you are preparing for a burn and have dragged the track onto the Toast window ? IF it is the second , try clicking on Data at the top in the left panel , and then drag that track on to the window. The size of the file will now be shown on the top line of the window. TELL US WHAT SIZE IT SAYS PLEASE BOB Used a brand new disc. I've tried reloading Toast (8) but no good, regards thanks, Ken -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
networking
has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Hi Paul and all, I tend to agree with Susan. My nephew studied Architecture at UWA and used AutoCad on his iMac under Windows for the last 3 years or so of his degree. That may not be the ideal solution for Mac users, but I understand that most draftmen (draftpeople??) use Windows and almost all use AutoCad. There could be software that will export their files in the AutoCad format, but unfortunately I do not have any experience in this domain. All the very best to your daughter. Regards, Philippe C 2009/6/9 Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com: Hi Paul, would it not be safer to have run Windows on the iMac and have AutoCAD run under that? TAFE are not very Mac friendly, and if there are transfer problems, they may not be able to help your daughter. cheers, Susan. On 09/06/2009, at 8:30 PM, j...@iinet.net.au wrote: Paul, Be careful. If you are enrolling at Central to do the drafting course at Leederville then they will only being using AutoCad and will need to read autocad files. Trust me I work here john On Tue Jun 9 20:03 , Paul Weaver pwea...@westnet.com.au sent: Thank you for all the useful advice so far. Plenty of Mac CAD options. What drove this question was that we can take advantage of the ATO's 50 percent Education Tax Refund if we make a parental decision on a new computer before the end of the month. We are thinking a new 24 inch iMac for $1250 might be handy for our daughter's ongoing CAD efforts. One other question. Is there a standard format for saved CAD files so that they can be read by different CAD apps? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au','','','')wamug- unsubscr...@wamug.org.au ) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- J Philippe Chaperon Perth, Australie Occidentale -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: WWDC download file wanted
On 09/06/2009, at 10:37 PM, Jack/Bauer wrote: Hi All Has anyone manage to save the WWDC keynote 2009 file from anywhere . Not yet... but you should be able to get it as a Podcast in the next day or two from; http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=275834665 -- Nicholas Pyers (nicho...@appleusers.org) Founder, AppleUsers.org http://www.appleusers.org/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
the best way it to run cat 5/cat6 cable between the computers.. Other than that maybe wireless but not sure how it would go at 90 meters.. if you put some repeaters in between in should be ok -- Craig Bruce Director M 0403 040 088 P 08 9367 4691 F 08 9367 4692 E craig.br...@maxstyle.com.au W http://www.maxstyle.com.au Disclaimer: The information transmitted on this message is intended only for the person or organisation to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact MaxStyle Pty Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. On 09/06/2009, at 8:56 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
Morning, Unfortunately Windows using AutoCad is the weapon of choice. There are many programs that can open Autocad files and a lot within OS X, depends on what one is trying to achieve. But, all Intel based Macs can run Windows comfortably with AutoCad. Students can download a free usable version once registered at AutoCad website. Yes there is also Cad programs for Mac, most will allow editing of AutoCad files, but depends on versions It will take some research and testing to implement a workable scenario. Personally I would go down the AutoCad Windows within OS X it is relatively free, see what the leader does then go shopping. Cheers! RobD... On 09Jun2009, at 2:43 pm, Paul Weaver wrote: We have a daughter who may be doing an architectural drafting course at TAFE next year. Does anyone know what CAD progs they are using and can iMacs be in the picture? Cheers, Paul. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
you may have to use dishes or yagi antennas made for the 2.4 gig range, i'm using that for an audio link of up to 200m across the audience to feed remotely placed battery powered speakers then does it have to be wireless? there are solutions available based on modem alike boxes to run a full duplex connection up to 1km with lan cable or optical fibre if you need more info email me directly cheers James On 09/06/2009, at 20:56, Martin Sulkowski wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
On 09/06/2009, at 8:56 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. At 90m, you are running up against the limit of Cat5e cable. I would run plastic fibre between the two sites with ethernet transceivers at each end. This gives you the most reliable, and fastest connection. Wireless is doable, but once you get decent gear the cost will probably be more than fibre anyway. You would need to put antennas on the roof to go over the steel. - Matt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 09/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni Likewisw on my iMac 24. The layout of the screen looks a bit weird, though, with the two iPhones at the top of the centre panel, arranged one above the other, and the rest below them. Looks the same both on my iMac and my Macbook Pro, so I guess it's intentional. Just looks Wrong. Is this everyone's experience? -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 09/06/2009, at 5:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: I should perhaps mention that latest version of Safari 4 is different in some respects than Safari 4 Beta. There is no uninstaller. The only way you can revert back to Safari 4 beta version either using a Time Machine backup, or recent backup, or reinstalling the OS using an Archive Install. But I don't think you will want to after using the new release of Safari 4. I have not experienced any problems since installing Safari 4. If your computer is up to date and you are not experiencing any problems, everything is in good working order, you should be right. The other thing to check is, if you use any add on plugins in Safari make sure you have the latest updates of them and that they are compatible with Safari 4. The problems people have had seem to be related to incompatible plugins / add ons. I was hoping they would but the Snapback feature back in. It was the one feature which absolutely separated it from all the other browsers for me. Now, not so much. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 8:29 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 09/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Tony, Try: http://store.apple.com/au Loads lightening fast on my MacBook Pro using Safari 4. Cheers, Ronni Likewisw on my iMac 24. The layout of the screen looks a bit weird, though, with the two iPhones at the top of the centre panel, arranged one above the other, and the rest below them. Looks the same both on my iMac and my Macbook Pro, so I guess it's intentional. Just looks Wrong. Is this everyone's experience? -- Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: CAD progs at TAFE?
On 09/06/2009, at 8:36 PM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Paul, would it not be safer to have run Windows on the iMac and have AutoCAD run under that? TAFE are not very Mac friendly, and if there are transfer problems, they may not be able to help your daughter. cheers, Susan. It's not quite as bad as that. The Northbridge campus (between Aberdeen and Newcastle Streets) of Central TAFE have a very sizeable installation of Macs for their Design students, and the network is driven by an impressive stack of XServes. The support is there, but maybe not consistent across campuses: like everything else, it probably all depends on the preferences of those making the decisions. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni Yes, please. I'd like to see that. If you show me yours I'll show you mine :-) -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
On 10/06/2009, at 8:51 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni Yes, please. I'd like to see that. If you show me yours I'll show you mine :-) Hi Peter, Well, yours certainly does look like mine ;-) I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Safari. A similar screen shot to yours here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522085 You don't have any plugins that might be interfering? Do you have plenty of RAM? Could it be your Network, have you tried on another Network? I have read this regarding Safari 4: • If your computer has less than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 104,857 bytes. * If your computer has more than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 209,715 bytes. * JPEGs, at least, are temporarily cached in RAM. Whew. But upon browser restart, you’ll see they didn’t make it to the disk cache, so you have to get them again. * Other objects, like SWFs or videos, though, don’t even make it to the RAM cache, let alone disk. Load the same SWF back-to-back, and you’ve just transferred the bytes twice. Ugh. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Toast is full
Hi Bob, it's when you drag the track onto the disc in Toast, new disc, really weird... You won't believe it! Bob, I just tried it again it's fine... must have scared it by going to WAMUG... Thanks for your reply, best, Ken On 09/06/2009, at 8:39 PM, Robert Howells wrote: On 09/06/2009, at 7:23 PM, Ken Jackson wrote: Hi folks, can anyone tell me why Toast 8 would indicate it's full with only one small track loaded? This is in Audio CD in Toast. Toast 8 Titanium, OSX 10.4.11 on a G5. it's nothing to do with space, it's purely in the Toast window that it indicates the Audio is full with one track in there. ken , Has this one track been burnt on to the disc , or is this when you are preparing for a burn and have dragged the track onto the Toast window ? IF it is the second , try clicking on Data at the top in the left panel , and then drag that track on to the window. The size of the file will now be shown on the top line of the window. TELL US WHAT SIZE IT SAYS PLEASE BOB Used a brand new disc. I've tried reloading Toast (8) but no good, regards thanks, Ken -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Safari 4
Sorry Peter, I meant yours certainly does NOT look like mine ;-) I just arrived back in my office and rushed the email off to you Ronni On 10/06/2009, at 11:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 8:51 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 10/06/2009, at 8:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Peter, On my screen the iPhones are beside each other, not one above the other. I can send you a screen shot off list if you want to compare. Cheers, Ronni Yes, please. I'd like to see that. If you show me yours I'll show you mine :-) Hi Peter, Well, yours certainly does look like mine ;-) I have heard of this happening in earlier version of Safari. A similar screen shot to yours here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=522085 You don't have any plugins that might be interfering? Do you have plenty of RAM? Could it be your Network, have you tried on another Network? I have read this regarding Safari 4: • If your computer has less than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 104,857 bytes. * If your computer has more than 1GB of RAM, Safari fails to cache items larger than 209,715 bytes. * JPEGs, at least, are temporarily cached in RAM. Whew. But upon browser restart, you’ll see they didn’t make it to the disk cache, so you have to get them again. * Other objects, like SWFs or videos, though, don’t even make it to the RAM cache, let alone disk. Load the same SWF back-to-back, and you’ve just transferred the bytes twice. Ugh. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.5.7 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
On 9/6/09 8:56 PM, Martin Sulkowski msulkow...@bbsat.com.au wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin Hi Martin Another option which be worth having a look at is Ethernet over Power (I think it's named that way,..lol). Netgear make a few devices like that http://www.netgear.com.au/au/Home-Networking/Powerline-and-Coax/Powerline-E thernet-A Basically you plug one end into the wall near one computer (and or modem/router) and connect an Ethernet cable to it. The other one you then place near the other computer and run an Ethernet cable to it. The Ethernet signal then travels through the power and to both computers. I had a quick look on the site and I couldn't see a distance limit, so not sure if it has one. Also to bear in mind, is that some of these aren't as fast as others, so if you need lots of speed/transfer to check each one. Prices range from about $200-$300 depending on models, but if you were interested I've got a couple of traded in sets which are brand new never used to move,... Worth a look anyway. May or may not be suitable for what you're trying to achieve. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
hi Daniel powerline networkwatch out..if its not on the same fuse/line it may not work at all i suggest fibre or wireless, to use cat5(lan) cable you have to use line drivers which use a higher voltage to get the data through optical fibre is lightning strike proof. James On 10/06/2009, at 12:03, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 9/6/09 8:56 PM, Martin Sulkowski msulkow...@bbsat.com.au wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin Hi Martin Another option which be worth having a look at is Ethernet over Power (I think it's named that way,..lol). Netgear make a few devices like that http://www.netgear.com.au/au/Home-Networking/Powerline-and-Coax/ Powerline-E thernet-A Basically you plug one end into the wall near one computer (and or modem/router) and connect an Ethernet cable to it. The other one you then place near the other computer and run an Ethernet cable to it. The Ethernet signal then travels through the power and to both computers. I had a quick look on the site and I couldn't see a distance limit, so not sure if it has one. Also to bear in mind, is that some of these aren't as fast as others, so if you need lots of speed/transfer to check each one. Prices range from about $200-$300 depending on models, but if you were interested I've got a couple of traded in sets which are brand new never used to move,... Worth a look anyway. May or may not be suitable for what you're trying to achieve. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
Hi James Yep, it does have it's downsides, but just thought I'd add it as another alternative. Again, it depends on where it's all going, the surrounding, what it's going to be used for, interference from other things, conditions etc etc. Lots to consider and lots of options. Ah, lightning strike proof,..that's what good surgeboards are for. And of course everyone runs their Mac gear on a surgeboard don't they :o) But yeh, lots of options to consider and weigh up. Thanks! Kind Regards Daniel On 10/6/09 12:24 PM, James / Hans Kunz sad...@iinet.net.au wrote: hi Daniel powerline networkwatch out..if its not on the same fuse/line it may not work at all i suggest fibre or wireless, to use cat5(lan) cable you have to use line drivers which use a higher voltage to get the data through optical fibre is lightning strike proof. James On 10/06/2009, at 12:03, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 9/6/09 8:56 PM, Martin Sulkowski msulkow...@bbsat.com.au wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin Hi Martin Another option which be worth having a look at is Ethernet over Power (I think it's named that way,..lol). Netgear make a few devices like that http://www.netgear.com.au/au/Home-Networking/Powerline-and-Coax/ Powerline-E thernet-A Basically you plug one end into the wall near one computer (and or modem/router) and connect an Ethernet cable to it. The other one you then place near the other computer and run an Ethernet cable to it. The Ethernet signal then travels through the power and to both computers. I had a quick look on the site and I couldn't see a distance limit, so not sure if it has one. Also to bear in mind, is that some of these aren't as fast as others, so if you need lots of speed/transfer to check each one. Prices range from about $200-$300 depending on models, but if you were interested I've got a couple of traded in sets which are brand new never used to move,... Worth a look anyway. May or may not be suitable for what you're trying to achieve. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: networking
On 10/06/2009, at 12:24 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote: hi Daniel powerline networkwatch out..if its not on the same fuse/line it may not work at all i suggest fibre or wireless, to use cat5(lan) cable you have to use line drivers which use a higher voltage to get the data through optical fibre is lightning strike proof. H ! A big broad statement ! If you added ... almostI would totally agree . The thing about optical fibre is that it will not pick up and carry a ground power surge , so unless there is a direct strike on it's physical location or in close proximity , or on a metal material running immediately adjacent to it lightning will not affect it . Bob James On 10/06/2009, at 12:03, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 9/6/09 8:56 PM, Martin Sulkowski msulkow...@bbsat.com.au wrote: has anyone experience with networking 2 computers ? Distance appr. 90 metres with rammed earth walls and corrugated steel between the computers E-mac to I-mac. thanks Martin Hi Martin Another option which be worth having a look at is Ethernet over Power (I think it's named that way,..lol). Netgear make a few devices like that http://www.netgear.com.au/au/Home-Networking/Powerline-and-Coax/Powerline-E thernet-A Basically you plug one end into the wall near one computer (and or modem/router) and connect an Ethernet cable to it. The other one you then place near the other computer and run an Ethernet cable to it. The Ethernet signal then travels through the power and to both computers. I had a quick look on the site and I couldn't see a distance limit, so not sure if it has one. Also to bear in mind, is that some of these aren't as fast as others, so if you need lots of speed/transfer to check each one. Prices range from about $200-$300 depending on models, but if you were interested I've got a couple of traded in sets which are brand new never used to move,... Worth a look anyway. May or may not be suitable for what you're trying to achieve. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au SAD Technic Video Productions, Electronic repairs U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA 6053 +618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132 http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas skype: barleeway The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
