Re: iPads for Schools
By no way an expert on this.useful site =http://www.ipadsforeducation.vic.edu.au/Laptop - more creativity, more expensive, more maintenance?iPad - device for consuming content, cheaper, lighter, designed to be a single user device - not multi Rod Blitvich-Amy Sam’s Dad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0409 681 256 rb...@iinet.net.auhttp://web.me.com/blittoI don't have a big ego, I'm way too cool for that. On 07/05/2011, at 1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad.Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi Glen do a google search you will find a wealth of knowledge :) Roger On 07/05/2011, at 1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi Glenn I don't know Geoff Strauss but he puts up a solid case for not using the iPad as an alternative to a laptop. He does have a Curriculum Vitae at the bottom of his about me on his home page which shows, among other things, experience in a high school, not a primary school. However, most of what he asserts would be relevant for any student. http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html The forum at the URL below is like a staff room conversation but will give you some points to contrast with Strauss's story. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 Cheers Merv On Sat7May2011 Sat7May1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas -- Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false education. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi Glenn, I found this site, which has quite a few links regarding ipads in schools. Doesn't sound like its ready to be in place of a laptop yet. You would definitely need keyboards and cases as accessories for each ipad. http://www.larkin.net.au/blog/2011/05/03/schools-adopt-ipad/ Special education with kids with limited physical skills might be an exception in terms of allowing for working through simple learning skills interactively. My son has cerebral palsy and is delighted to have the responsive, touch surface to interact with programs. Having said that, his pounding on the surface does seem to have reduced its overall responsiveness! Cheers, Susan. On 7/05/11 2:07 PM, Roger Kortas rkor...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glen do a google search you will find a wealth of knowledge :) Roger On 07/05/2011, at 1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi Glenn, There is a lot of information out there regarding this, and you will get opposing opinions from people with a string of letters after their name. There are a number of trials going on and I can put you into contact with some schools already using them. Don¹t get caught up in comparing a laptop to an iPad. They are different (obviously). I¹ve had discussions with secondary schools trying to get the most out of the $1000 per student provided but I think it¹s wrong to decide on price. There is a line of thinking that the iPad is a great device for Primary school students because the majority of the time they are accessing content. I¹ve seen many schools with trolleys of laptops checked out only to run a maths/science/english/spelling program or some other web delivered content. You don¹t need a laptop for that. Here¹s some information below which others may have already provided; http://www.ipadsforeducation.vic.edu.au/ http://wmaccommunity.com/wmacipadprogram http://learningwithipads.blogspot.com/ Cheers, Stuart On 7/05/11 1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas gl...@om4.com.au wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi Glenn (again) / Ronni, I don’t think it is that cut and dried. The iPad has been out for a year and is in it’s second iteration. That “could” be reason enough to say wait and see. But it is important to note it is NOT a laptop replacement. If you need to create media rich content it is not the tool for that. And let’s consider secondary education. I think a Laptop is right for years 7-10. Unless you’re doing graphic design or other unit reliant on content creation (and even then it might happen in a lab), the iPad lends itself to Year 11-12. You can see the days of bulky school bags disappearing and all your textbooks being on an e-reader (iPad with ePub format even better). Jeff Strauss has good points but they aren’t really all relevant to education. He is a techie with 5 years in education and I beg to differ that what he says is relevant for any student. He uses arguments regarding power users and graphics designers that are irrelevant to many students. Might be relevant to some professionals but not students. Most people outside education (and sometimes inside) get caught up in the technology and seem to think we’re training the students to become top notch programmers, designers, photographers and movie producers. Techs will see things differently (I know, I’m a techie!). It’s all about the education – same information, different delivery – and teaching thinking, problem solving and many other skills to prepare them for life. Does it matter if a student uses a Mac or a Windows PC? Not if they get the life skills (although I believe the Mac is a much more engaging platform). Glenn, I would recommend you talk to teachers in schools that are using iPads and make your decision based on that and your schools needs. We work with a lot of schools mostly going MacBooks, but we have several schools trialling iPads. Cheers, Stuart On 7/05/11 3:00 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Glenn, The iPad program possibly for Primary School, MacBook for Secondary Education. My reasons are numerous, as most of the Trials of the iPad program in Education MacBook program in Education are showing. Geoff Strauss has given very good points. A google search http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Educatio n%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education %3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Educatio n%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari Shortened link if above doesn't work http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 07/05/2011, at 2:18 PM, Merv Bond mailto:m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glenn I don't know Geoff Strauss but he puts up a solid case for not using the iPad as an alternative to a laptop. He does have a Curriculum Vitae at the bottom of his about me on his home page which shows, among other things, experience in a high school, not a primary school. However, most of what he asserts would be relevant for any student. http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-sti ll-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-sti ll-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-stil l-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-sti ll-no-good-for-schools.html The forum at the URL below is like a staff room conversation but will give you some points to contrast with Strauss's story. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 Cheers Merv On Sat7May2011 Sat7May1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas Stuart Evans T4 Technology ALBANY Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330 T 08 9842 9660 F 08 9842 9664 E stuart.ev...@t4.com.au BUNBURY Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230 T 08 9721 9660 F 08 9842 9664 P PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL _ IMPORTANT INFORMATION: DISCLAIMER This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error,
Third Party Utilities for Mac
I recently installed Onyx, Preferential Treatment, and Disk Warrior. Are these utilities useful for modern Macs? Any thoughts on my comments below? Onyx was recommended in an Apple discussion group as a plist checker. it doesn't do that as an obvious option, so may have been wrongly suggested. To my untutored mind Onyx just seems to wrap standard Apple iMac utilities in a pretty package. Nice, particularly at $0, but not an essential tool. Preferential Treatment was later located in a WAMUG posting as a plist checker. It appears to work (all OK!). If trustworthy it will be worth the $0 paid! I had been troubled with the common WAMUG advice to delete the preference file when strange things happened with an application. Not an elegant way to track a fault. Disk Warrior may be like those regular backups - hope we never have to use it! (Q1) Disk Warrior recommends a monthly preventative maintenance routine to rebuild the disk Directory. Is this done by WAMUG members? Or is it a case of don't touch if its not broken? (Q2) D.W. seems to run three tests - Directory, Files and Hardware. I used D.W. with 2 Firewire HD and 1 USB HD connected. Directory and Files could be run on any hard drive, but only the Macintosh HD was selectable for the Hardware test. Is this normal? (Q3) I only ran D.W. tests on the USB hard drive and was left with the feeling is that all there is? I was expecting a rigorous Read/Write hammering of the drive, or at least a bad sector test. Is Disk Warrior value for money ($160) or is the standard Apple Disk Utility the more appropriate tester? Regards, Alan Alan Smith iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 4M : OSX 10.6.7 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Travel applications
I am expecting to do some serious national and international travel in 2012. Have looked at various travel application for iPhone and have had a good look at free Tripit and Tripit Pro. Any experience with this application or suggestion about similar? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 http://www.tripit.com/?ot=2 http://www.tripit.com/pro/is_sem/1?gclid=CLXT5Jr51agCFQPTbgodPkGlhA -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Travel applications
Hi Stuart, I travel a lot within Australia, and find Around Me to be very useful. Basically it looks up where you are, and then you can browse restaurants, coffee shops etc. It tells you how far away they are, with some additional info, and a map to see where you are going. I love it. Cheers, Andrew On 07/05/2011, at 9:30 PM, Stuart Breden wrote: I am expecting to do some serious national and international travel in 2012. Have looked at various travel application for iPhone and have had a good look at free Tripit and Tripit Pro. Any experience with this application or suggestion about similar? Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 http://www.tripit.com/?ot=2 http://www.tripit.com/pro/is_sem/1?gclid=CLXT5Jr51agCFQPTbgodPkGlhA -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Travel applications
TripAdvisor is a good starting point. Regards, Eugene On 07/05/2011, at 9:39 PM, Andrew Schox wrote:Hi Stuart,I travel a lot within Australia, and find Around Me to be very useful. Basically it looks up where you are, and then you can browse restaurants, coffee shops etc. It tells you how far away they are, with some additional info, and a map to see where you are going. I love it.Cheers,AndrewOn 07/05/2011, at 9:30 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:I am expecting to do some serious national and international travel in 2012.Have looked at various travel application for iPhone and have had a good look at free Tripit and Tripit Pro.Any experience with this application or suggestion about similar? Stuart BredenPO Box 132Kalamunda WA 6926Ph: (08) 9257 1577Mbl: 0417 053 266http://www.tripit.com/?ot=2http://www.tripit.com/pro/is_sem/1?gclid=CLXT5Jr51agCFQPTbgodPkGlhA --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
To change the threat slightly, where do we think the iPad will fit into business and in particular into health. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 07/05/2011, at 4:48 PM, Stuart Evans wrote: Hi Glenn (again) / Ronni, I don’t think it is that cut and dried. The iPad has been out for a year and is in it’s second iteration. That “could” be reason enough to say wait and see. But it is important to note it is NOT a laptop replacement. If you need to create media rich content it is not the tool for that. And let’s consider secondary education. I think a Laptop is right for years 7-10. Unless you’re doing graphic design or other unit reliant on content creation (and even then it might happen in a lab), the iPad lends itself to Year 11-12. You can see the days of bulky school bags disappearing and all your textbooks being on an e-reader (iPad with ePub format even better). Jeff Strauss has good points but they aren’t really all relevant to education. He is a techie with 5 years in education and I beg to differ that what he says is relevant for any student. He uses arguments regarding power users and graphics designers that are irrelevant to many students. Might be relevant to some professionals but not students. Most people outside education (and sometimes inside) get caught up in the technology and seem to think we’re training the students to become top notch programmers, designers, photographers and movie producers. Techs will see things differently (I know, I’m a techie!). It’s all about the education – same information, different delivery – and teaching thinking, problem solving and many other skills to prepare them for life. Does it matter if a student uses a Mac or a Windows PC? Not if they get the life skills (although I believe the Mac is a much more engaging platform). Glenn, I would recommend you talk to teachers in schools that are using iPads and make your decision based on that and your schools needs. We work with a lot of schools mostly going MacBooks, but we have several schools trialling iPads. Cheers, Stuart On 7/05/11 3:00 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Glenn, The iPad program possibly for Primary School, MacBook for Secondary Education. My reasons are numerous, as most of the Trials of the iPad program in Education MacBook program in Education are showing. Geoff Strauss has given very good points. A google search http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari Shortened link if above doesn't work http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 07/05/2011, at 2:18 PM, Merv Bond mailto:m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glenn I don't know Geoff Strauss but he puts up a solid case for not using the iPad as an alternative to a laptop. He does have a Curriculum Vitae at the bottom of his about me on his home page which shows, among other things, experience in a high school, not a primary school. However, most of what he asserts would be relevant for any student. http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html The forum at the URL below is like a staff room conversation but will give you some points to contrast with Strauss's story. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 Cheers Merv On Sat7May2011 Sat7May1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any research/resources on this topic. Glenn Nicholas Stuart Evans T4 Technology ALBANY Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330 T 08 9842 9660 F 08 9842 9664 E stuart.ev...@t4.com.au BUNBURY Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230 T 08 9721 9660 F 08 9842 9664 P PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL _ IMPORTANT
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi Stuart and all, With regards to health, it does appear to me that the iPad is following closely into the foot steps of ... the Newton, which was at the time a very tempting device for those specially in the health industry. I cannot help see the iPad as a much more advanced Newton - same philosopy but much greater capabilities. Good night all, Philippe C 2011/5/7 Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz To change the threat slightly, where do we think the iPad will fit into business and in particular into health. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 07/05/2011, at 4:48 PM, Stuart Evans wrote: Hi Glenn (again) / Ronni, I don’t think it is that cut and dried. The iPad has been out for a year and is in it’s second iteration. That “could” be reason enough to say wait and see. But it is important to note it is NOT a laptop replacement. If you need to create media rich content it is not the tool for that. And let’s consider secondary education. I think a Laptop is right for years 7-10. Unless you’re doing graphic design or other unit reliant on content creation (and even then it might happen in a lab), the iPad lends itself to Year 11-12. You can see the days of bulky school bags disappearing and all your textbooks being on an e-reader (iPad with ePub format even better). Jeff Strauss has good points but they aren’t really all relevant to education. He is a techie with 5 years in education and I beg to differ that what he says is relevant for any student. He uses arguments regarding power users and graphics designers that are irrelevant to many students. Might be relevant to some professionals but not students. Most people outside education (and sometimes inside) get caught up in the technology and seem to think we’re training the students to become top notch programmers, designers, photographers and movie producers. Techs will see things differently (I know, I’m a techie!). It’s all about the education – same information, different delivery – and teaching thinking, problem solving and many other skills to prepare them for life. Does it matter if a student uses a Mac or a Windows PC? Not if they get the life skills (although I believe the Mac is a much more engaging platform). Glenn, I would recommend you talk to teachers in schools that are using iPads and make your decision based on that and your schools needs. We work with a lot of schools mostly going MacBooks, but we have several schools trialling iPads. Cheers, Stuart On 7/05/11 3:00 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Glenn, The iPad program possibly for Primary School, MacBook for Secondary Education. My reasons are numerous, as most of the Trials of the iPad program in Education MacBook program in Education are showing. Geoff Strauss has given very good points. A google search http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari Shortened link if above doesn't work http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 07/05/2011, at 2:18 PM, Merv Bond mailto:m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glenn I don't know Geoff Strauss but he puts up a solid case for not using the iPad as an alternative to a laptop. He does have a Curriculum Vitae at the bottom of his about me on his home page which shows, among other things, experience in a high school, not a primary school. However, most of what he asserts would be relevant for any student. http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html The forum at the URL below is like a staff room conversation but will give you some points to contrast with Strauss's story. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=907460 Cheers Merv On Sat7May2011 Sat7May1:04 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has information that would help a primary school decide whether to equip students with a laptop or an iPad. Personally I think an iPad would not be as useful, but would love to know of any
Travel applications
I have found the free Tripit really useful. Keeps all your arrangements together, times, flights, reservation numbers etc etc Blitto On Sat May 7 21:30 , Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz sent: I am expecting to do some serious national and international travel in 2012. Have looked at various travel application for iPhone and have had a good look at free Tripit and Tripit Pro. Any experience with this application or suggestion about similar? Stuart BredenPO Box 132Kalamunda WA 6926Ph: (08) 9257 1577Mbl: 0417 053 266http://www.tripit.com/? ot=2http://www.tripit.com/pro/is_sem/1?gclid=CLXT5Jr51agCFQPTbgodPkGlhA -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Hi All! I still use my Newton everyday, as its handwriting is still unmatched by any device. But it is different from the iPad - the OS was designed from the ground up as a mobile OS, whereas iOS is a desktop OS with a finger friendly UI. Moreinfo for the Newton is the perfect example of that difference :) Would have been interesting to see how far the Newton OS would have developed if they stayed a separate company! Anyhoo, the ipad will find a niche here and there. It will be a companion, rather than a replacement. Seeya Rod! On May 8, 2011 1:17 AM, Philippe Chaperon laut...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Stuart and all, With regards to health, it does appear to me that the iPad is following closely into the foot steps of ... the Newton, which was at the time a very tempting device for those specially in the health industry. I cannot help see the iPad as a much more advanced Newton - same philosopy but much greater capabilities. Good night all, Philippe C 2011/5/7 Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz To change the threat slightly, where do we think the iPad will fit into business and in particular into health. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 07/05/2011, at 4:48 PM, Stuart Evans wrote: Hi Glenn (again) / Ronni, I don’t think it is that cut and dried. The iPad has been out for a year and is in it’s second iteration. That “could” be reason enough to say wait and see. But it is important to note it is NOT a laptop replacement. If you need to create media rich content it is not the tool for that. And let’s consider secondary education. I think a Laptop is right for years 7-10. Unless you’re doing graphic design or other unit reliant on content creation (and even then it might happen in a lab), the iPad lends itself to Year 11-12. You can see the days of bulky school bags disappearing and all your textbooks being on an e-reader (iPad with ePub format even better). Jeff Strauss has good points but they aren’t really all relevant to education. He is a techie with 5 years in education and I beg to differ that what he says is relevant for any student. He uses arguments regarding power users and graphics designers that are irrelevant to many students. Might be relevant to some professionals but not students. Most people outside education (and sometimes inside) get caught up in the technology and seem to think we’re training the students to become top notch programmers, designers, photographers and movie producers. Techs will see things differently (I know, I’m a techie!). It’s all about the education – same information, different delivery – and teaching thinking, problem solving and many other skills to prepare them for life. Does it matter if a student uses a Mac or a Windows PC? Not if they get the life skills (although I believe the Mac is a much more engaging platform). Glenn, I would recommend you talk to teachers in schools that are using iPads and make your decision based on that and your schools needs. We work with a lot of schools mostly going MacBooks, but we have several schools trialling iPads. Cheers, Stuart On 7/05/11 3:00 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Glenn, The iPad program possibly for Primary School, MacBook for Secondary Education. My reasons are numerous, as most of the Trials of the iPad program in Education MacBook program in Education are showing. Geoff Strauss has given very good points. A google search http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari http://www.google.com.au/search?q='MacBooks+or+iPads+best+for+School+Education%3Fie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enclient=safari Shortened link if above doesn't work http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 http://tiny.cc/8a8l5 Sent from Ronni's iPad On 07/05/2011, at 2:18 PM, Merv Bond mailto:m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au m...@iinet.net.au mailto:m...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Glenn I don't know Geoff Strauss but he puts up a solid case for not using the iPad as an alternative to a laptop. He does have a Curriculum Vitae at the bottom of his about me on his home page which shows, among other things, experience in a high school, not a primary school. However, most of what he asserts would be relevant for any student. http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html http://www.jeffstrauss.com/the-classroom/37-the-classroom/155-the-ipad-2-still-no-good-for-schools.html The forum at the URL below is like a staff room conversation but will give you
Butterfly
Hi Everyone Just have a minor query which has been bugging me for some time! In sending emails to people it goes with a butterfly on the top right. How do I get rid of it? I know it must be easy but for the life of me I can't figure it out. Thanks in anticipation Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Butterfly
Hi PeterYour email has arrived here without the butterfly. I think you will find it only appears on your computer and doesn't actually go with the email.If you open System Preferences and click on Accounts you will see the Butterfly there next to your namecheersPedroOn 08/05/2011, at 8:53 AM, Curtis Peter wrote:Hi EveryoneJust have a minor query which has been bugging me for some time! In sending emails to people it goes with a butterfly on the top right. How do I get rid of it? I know it must be easy but for the life of me I can't figure it out.Thanks in anticipationRegardsPeter-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHzCore i74GB/1067 MHz 500GBOS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Butterfly
So, its actually sending the picture that identifies you. It could be a photo of yourself. Cheers, Susan. From: Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 09:19:40 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Butterfly Hi Peter Your email has arrived here without the butterfly. I think you will find it only appears on your computer and doesn't actually go with the email. If you open System Preferences and click on Accounts you will see the Butterfly there next to your name cheers Pedro On 08/05/2011, at 8:53 AM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi Everyone Just have a minor query which has been bugging me for some time! In sending emails to people it goes with a butterfly on the top right. How do I get rid of it? I know it must be easy but for the life of me I can't figure it out. Thanks in anticipation Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au 15 MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7 4 GB/1067 MHz 500GB OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au inline: Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg
Re: Butterfly
Hi I understand that, but how do I get rid of it? Regards Peter On 08/05/2011, at 11:23 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: So, its actually sending the picture that identifies you. It could be a photo of yourself. Cheers, Susan. From: Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 09:19:40 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Butterfly Hi Peter Your email has arrived here without the butterfly. I think you will find it only appears on your computer and doesn't actually go with the email. If you open System Preferences and click on Accounts you will see the Butterfly there next to your name cheers Pedro On 08/05/2011, at 8:53 AM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi Everyone Just have a minor query which has been bugging me for some time! In sending emails to people it goes with a butterfly on the top right. How do I get rid of it? I know it must be easy but for the life of me I can't figure it out. Thanks in anticipation Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au 15 MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7 4 GB/1067 MHz 500GB OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Butterfly
Pyrethrum? On 08/05/2011, at 12:37 PM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi I understand that, but how do I get rid of it? Regards Peter On 08/05/2011, at 11:23 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: So, its actually sending the picture that identifies you. It could be a photo of yourself. Cheers, Susan. From: Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 09:19:40 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Butterfly Hi Peter Your email has arrived here without the butterfly. I think you will find it only appears on your computer and doesn't actually go with the email. If you open System Preferences and click on Accounts you will see the Butterfly there next to your name cheers Pedro On 08/05/2011, at 8:53 AM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi Everyone Just have a minor query which has been bugging me for some time! In sending emails to people it goes with a butterfly on the top right. How do I get rid of it? I know it must be easy but for the life of me I can't figure it out. Thanks in anticipation Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au 15 MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7 4 GB/1067 MHz 500GB OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: iPads for Schools
Thanks everybody for your contributions. Very helpful. Susan, the link to John Larkin's site was particularly interesting, I hadn't seen that before, and it led me to this article: http://hopkins.patch.com/articles/how-valuable-are-ipads-in-the-classroom In that article there is a framework there that offers a great framework for evaluating the case for iPads vs Laptops, as it covers a whole range of issues that relate to the use of portable computers by students. From my own perspective, the fact that iPads cost less than laptops seems to be a big factor in the decision making process at schools. But the question of what is the requirement, and how well the iPad meets the requirement, often seems to be coming down to anecdotal experience. I've used an iPad for some time now, and while I love using my iPad, I think if I was studying I'd choose a laptop. Both my daughters (in upper school) use Mac laptops, and both are of the very strong opinion that an iPad wouldn't be viable as a tool for their school work, either at school or at home. So on the anecdotal front, I fall into the laptop camp. As I said earlier, thanks for everyone's contributions, I'll see if I can feed some of this into the decision making process. Glenn Nicholas On 8 May 2011 08:27, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All! I still use my Newton everyday, as its handwriting is still unmatched by any device. But it is different from the iPad - the OS was designed from the ground up as a mobile OS, whereas iOS is a desktop OS with a finger friendly UI. Moreinfo for the Newton is the perfect example of that difference :) Would have been interesting to see how far the Newton OS would have developed if they stayed a separate company! Anyhoo, the ipad will find a niche here and there. It will be a companion, rather than a replacement. Seeya Rod! On May 8, 2011 1:17 AM, Philippe Chaperon laut...@westnet.com.au wrote: Hi Stuart and all, With regards to health, it does appear to me that the iPad is following closely into the foot steps of ... the Newton, which was at the time a very tempting device for those specially in the health industry. I cannot help see the iPad as a much more advanced Newton - same philosopy but much greater capabilities. Good night all, Philippe C 2011/5/7 Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz To change the threat slightly, where do we think the iPad will fit into business and in particular into health. Stuart Breden PO Box 132 Kalamunda WA 6926 Ph: (08) 9257 1577 Mbl: 0417 053 266 On 07/05/2011, at 4:48 PM, Stuart Evans wrote: Hi Glenn (again) / Ronni, I don’t think it is that cut and dried. The iPad has been out for a year and is in it’s second iteration. That “could” be reason enough to say wait and see. But it is important to note it is NOT a laptop replacement. If you need to create media rich content it is not the tool for that. And let’s consider secondary education. I think a Laptop is right for years 7-10. Unless you’re doing graphic design or other unit reliant on content creation (and even then it might happen in a lab), the iPad lends itself to Year 11-12. You can see the days of bulky school bags disappearing and all your textbooks being on an e-reader (iPad with ePub format even better). Jeff Strauss has good points but they aren’t really all relevant to education. He is a techie with 5 years in education and I beg to differ that what he says is relevant for any student. He uses arguments regarding power users and graphics designers that are irrelevant to many students. Might be relevant to some professionals but not students. Most people outside education (and sometimes inside) get caught up in the technology and seem to think we’re training the students to become top notch programmers, designers, photographers and movie producers. Techs will see things differently (I know, I’m a techie!). It’s all about the education – same information, different delivery – and teaching thinking, problem solving and many other skills to prepare them for life. Does it matter if a student uses a Mac or a Windows PC? Not if they get the life skills (although I believe the Mac is a much more engaging platform). Glenn, I would recommend you talk to teachers in schools that are using iPads and make your decision based on that and your schools needs. We work with a lot of schools mostly going MacBooks, but we have several schools trialling iPads. Cheers, Stuart On 7/05/11 3:00 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Glenn, The iPad program possibly for Primary School, MacBook for Secondary Education. My reasons are numerous, as most of the Trials of the iPad program in Education MacBook program in Education are showing. Geoff Strauss has given very good points. A google search
Re: Butterfly
I don't think the icon can be easily removed - but there is workaround you may try. Click on the butterfly in System preferences Accounts you will find an expanding arrow to show all icons available. Either choose another graphic or select Edit and insert your own selection from file or a new Photobooth snapshot. Try inserting a blank picture from file; or you can cover the Photobooth lens with something and have a black square. I'd be interested in a real solution that reset the Accounts to the original blank. Cheers, Alan On 08/05/2011, at 12:37 PM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi I understand that, but how do I get rid of it? Regards Peter On 08/05/2011, at 11:23 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: So, its actually sending the picture that identifies you. It could be a photo of yourself. Cheers, Susan. From: Pedro pfow...@iinet.net.au Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 09:19:40 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Butterfly Hi Peter Your email has arrived here without the butterfly. I think you will find it only appears on your computer and doesn't actually go with the email. If you open System Preferences and click on Accounts you will see the Butterfly there next to your name cheers Pedro On 08/05/2011, at 8:53 AM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi Everyone Just have a minor query which has been bugging me for some time! In sending emails to people it goes with a butterfly on the top right. How do I get rid of it? I know it must be easy but for the life of me I can't figure it out. Thanks in anticipation Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au 15 MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7 4 GB/1067 MHz 500GB OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
