Adding a Time Capsule - network options/decisions
Hi all, I was wandering through Officeworks (Albany) this weekend when I saw they had a 1TB time capsule on clearance, marked down to $160. I realised that this was not the current model but it seemed like a good deal - which got even better when they scanned it and it came up as $100! So now I am just weighing up options as to how best to use it: Network set-up My current network comprises: Billion BiPAC 7402VGP ADSL modem with wired/wireless router and VOIP This handles VOIP phones and an ethernet connected iMac. It also is the DHCP server. However, I do not use it for wireless networking. An Airport Express, connected by ethernet to the Billion and set-up in bridge mode to provide a wireless network to which 2 other iMacs and a Macbook Pro connect (though very rarely at the same time). This is an older model, purchased November 2007, Model # M9470X/A so it only has single band wireless. My new Time capsule is Model A1355 - which I gather is the 4th generation 2010 model Since it allows simultaneous dual band networks and better wifi performance/range to the earlier Airport, I¹m presuming my best option will be to set this up to create the wireless network and then re-configure the Airport Express to just extend the wireless network? The other thing I need to decide is how to set-up the DHCP server I originally had the Airport Express setup in bridge mode because I was using the ethernet networking on the Billion for an adjacent iMac and I wanted all the machines to see each other on the same network. If I wished to continue like this then I would, presumably, also set-up the time capsule in bridge mode. However it is probable that I will have the time capsule in close proximity to both the Billion modem and the ethernet wired iMac So, I guess, my other option would be to just have the Time capsule connected to the Billion, use the Time capsule to handle DHCP and plug the iMac into one of the TC ethernet ports. My gut feeling tells me that this might be better but what would be the pros/cons of these two approaches? Best use of the TC hard drive I realise that Apple market this to act as the Time machine drive for one or more computers However, at present, I already have 2 separate 1tb USB desktop drives for TM backup of mine Georgie¹s iMacs and a 1TB portable drive for TM backup of the laptop. The third (ethernet connected) iMac is an old 15* G4 model just used for music playing and casual internet browsing when we are away from our main computers I don¹t heed to back it up I just love the lampshade look and I¹m happy it still plays tunes ;o) (By the way, Ronni, I also have my firewire bootable clones but that¹s not directly relevant to my deliberations here) I seems to me that to try and use the 1TB TC as TM backup for three machines would be very limiting and a backward step. I suppose I could use it as TM back-up for ONE of the machines and free-up a 1TG external drive for other uses, or I suppose I could attach a USB hub to the TC and attach all my existing TM USB drives to that but I¹m not sure if that would offer any advantages? Plus I would expect that might result in slower speeds that the current direct USB connection. I am wondering if I might not be better keeping my existing TM regimes and using the TC disk just as general NAS storage for the house. What I would REALLY like is just to have it as a music/video storage directly feeding my ATV2 but I¹m pretty sure that can¹t be done, right? I need to have a computer running somewhere with iTunes running at all times? If I use it a general storage, can I set it up with different storage areas accessible to different users as well as some storage available to all users (I¹m not talking about the guest accounts here just different user accounts) if so, is it best to partition the TC disc or just keep one partition and work with different user folders? I guess if I wished to allocate a given space to different users I would need to create an appropriately sized partition? Connecting additional USB drives to the TC So I know I can plug an additional USB drive into the TC or a USB hub and then more than one USB drive. Functionally is there any difference between the usage of an external TC drive to the internal TC drive is it much slower do they all look the same to a network attached mac? Also, how does shut/down sleep work I see that the TC doesn¹t have an on/off switch, so I assume that it just sleeps and wakes as required does that extend to any attached drives do the sleep/wake when the internal drive does, if so, does that work with any drive or just some models? OK, I know that¹s lots of questions ;o) I¹m happy enough following Apple instructions on set-up and finding info on how to address specific set-ups what I¹m hoping for is feedback/experience on the pros cons of different approaches/ set-ups since I can see I can set this up in different ways that ALL work but some may
Re: Adding a Time Capsule - network options/decisions
That was a lucky weekend wander, Neil! Enjoy the rain! Severin On 15/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi all, I was wandering through Officeworks (Albany) this weekend when I saw they had a 1TB time capsule on clearance, marked down to $160. I realised that this was not the current model but it seemed like a good deal - which got even better when they scanned it and it came up as $100! So now I am just weighing up options as to how best to use it: Network set-up My current network comprises: Billion BiPAC 7402VGP ADSL modem with wired/wireless router and VOIP – This handles VOIP phones and an ethernet connected iMac. It also is the DHCP server. However, I do not use it for wireless networking. An Airport Express, connected by ethernet to the Billion and set-up in bridge mode to provide a wireless network to which 2 other iMacs and a Macbook Pro connect (though very rarely at the same time). This is an older model, purchased November 2007, Model # M9470X/A – so it only has single band wireless. My new Time capsule is Model A1355 - which I gather is the 4th generation 2010 model – Since it allows simultaneous dual band networks and better wifi performance/range to the earlier Airport, I’m presuming my best option will be to set this up to create the wireless network and then re-configure the Airport Express to just extend the wireless network? The other thing I need to decide is how to set-up the DHCP server – I originally had the Airport Express setup in bridge mode because I was using the ethernet networking on the Billion for an adjacent iMac – and I wanted all the machines to see each other on the same network. If I wished to continue like this then I would, presumably, also set-up the time capsule in bridge mode. However it is probable that I will have the time capsule in close proximity to both the Billion modem and the ethernet wired iMac – So, I guess, my other option would be to just have the Time capsule connected to the Billion, use the Time capsule to handle DHCP and plug the iMac into one of the TC ethernet ports. My gut feeling tells me that this might be better – but what would be the pros/cons of these two approaches? Best use of the TC hard drive I realise that Apple market this to act as the Time machine drive for one or more computers – However, at present, I already have 2 separate 1tb USB desktop drives for TM backup of mine Georgie’s iMacs and a 1TB portable drive for TM backup of the laptop. The third (ethernet connected) iMac is an old 15* G4 model just used for music playing and casual internet browsing when we are away from our main computers – I don’t heed to back it up – I just love the lampshade look and I’m happy it still plays tunes ;o) (By the way, Ronni, I also have my firewire bootable clones but that’s not directly relevant to my deliberations here) I seems to me that to try and use the 1TB TC as TM backup for three machines would be very limiting and a backward step. I suppose I could use it as TM back-up for ONE of the machines and free-up a 1TG external drive for other uses, or I suppose I could attach a USB hub to the TC and attach all my existing TM USB drives to that – but I’m not sure if that would offer any advantages? Plus I would expect that might result in slower speeds that the current direct USB connection. I am wondering if I might not be better keeping my existing TM regimes and using the TC disk just as general NAS storage for the house. What I would REALLY like is just to have it as a music/video storage directly feeding my ATV2 – but I’m pretty sure that can’t be done, right? I need to have a computer running somewhere with iTunes running at all times? If I use it a general storage, can I set it up with different storage areas accessible to different users as well as some storage available to all users (I’m not talking about the guest accounts here just different user accounts) if so, is it best to partition the TC disc or just keep one partition and work with different user folders? I guess if I wished to allocate a given space to different users I would need to create an appropriately sized partition? Connecting additional USB drives to the TC So I know I can plug an additional USB drive into the TC – or a USB hub and then more than one USB drive. Functionally is there any difference between the usage of an external TC drive to the internal TC drive – is it much slower – do they all look the same to a network attached mac? Also, how does shut/down sleep work – I see that the TC doesn’t have an on/off switch, so I assume that it just sleeps and wakes as required – does that extend to any attached drives – do the sleep/wake when the internal drive does, if so, does that work with any drive or just some models? OK, I know that’s lots of questions ;o) I’m happy enough following Apple instructions on set-up and finding info on
Re: Adding a Time Capsule - network options/decisions
Hi Neil, My goodness Neil, that is a lot of questions to answer in one go ... I'll give a start ;-) I find the best setup is as follows: 1. Modem/Router (wireless or not) connected to Time capsule via ethernet 2. Existing wireless AP/SSID disabled on ADSL Modem/Router 3. Create new Dual-Band Wireless Network using Time Capsule (9/10 it provides a better range than your Billion wireless/router) 4. Connect via wireless to your Macs == You will probably find you may not require the Airport Express to extend the range of this W-Fi Network. When I setup my original 1TB TC, I found I did not need to the Airport Express to extend my Network as I previously had done. If you want to have the TC replace the AE, then you will need to Connect the TC to your modem/router, launch Airport Utility, and re-configure your network on the TC. You can configure it so that it is virtually identical to your existing network. You might find it helpful to copy down on paper some of the settings for the AE before you disconnect it, then use those settings for the TC when you configure it. Use Airport Utility to setup the Dual-Band model Time Capsule, which will allow you to configure your network for BOTH your newer Macs (n) and your older hardware and iPhones (b/g). I created a tutorial in April 2010 titled Airport Extreme N Dual-Band Base Station Network which explains how to setup a Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station, so all devices automatically connect to the band they require. eg. newer Macs iPad to the 5GHz band, iPhone to 2.5GHz band. If you wish to download the tutorial from my website, post back and I'll give the link. On 15/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi all, I was wandering through Officeworks (Albany) this weekend when I saw they had a 1TB time capsule on clearance, marked down to $160. I realised that this was not the current model but it seemed like a good deal - which got even better when they scanned it and it came up as $100! So now I am just weighing up options as to how best to use it: Network set-up My current network comprises: Billion BiPAC 7402VGP ADSL modem with wired/wireless router and VOIP – This handles VOIP phones and an ethernet connected iMac. It also is the DHCP server. However, I do not use it for wireless networking. An Airport Express, connected by ethernet to the Billion and set-up in bridge mode to provide a wireless network to which 2 other iMacs and a Macbook Pro connect (though very rarely at the same time). This is an older model, purchased November 2007, Model # M9470X/A – so it only has single band wireless. My new Time capsule is Model A1355 - which I gather is the 4th generation 2010 model – Since it allows simultaneous dual band networks and better wifi performance/range to the earlier Airport, I’m presuming my best option will be to set this up to create the wireless network and then re-configure the Airport Express to just extend the wireless network? Yes, as above. And probably won't require the Airport Express to extend the network. The other thing I need to decide is how to set-up the DHCP server – I originally had the Airport Express setup in bridge mode because I was using the ethernet networking on the Billion for an adjacent iMac – and I wanted all the machines to see each other on the same network. If I wished to continue like this then I would, presumably, also set-up the time capsule in bridge mode. Yes, as explained above However it is probable that I will have the time capsule in close proximity to both the Billion modem and the ethernet wired iMac – So, I guess, my other option would be to just have the Time capsule connected to the Billion, use the Time capsule to handle DHCP and plug the iMac into one of the TC ethernet ports. Yes, Time Capsule will handle DHCP Connect the iMac via Ethernet to one of the ethernet ports on the TC. My gut feeling tells me that this might be better – but what would be the pros/cons of these two approaches? Best use of the TC hard drive I realise that Apple market this to act as the Time machine drive for one or more computers – However, at present, I already have 2 separate 1tb USB desktop drives for TM backup of mine Georgie’s iMacs and a 1TB portable drive for TM backup of the laptop. The third (ethernet connected) iMac is an old 15* G4 model just used for music playing and casual internet browsing when we are away from our main computers – I don’t heed to back it up – I just love the lampshade look and I’m happy it still plays tunes ;o) (By the way, Ronni, I also have my firewire bootable clones but that’s not directly relevant to my deliberations here) Ah, I knew you would have bootable clones Neil; still good to hear though ;-) I seems to me that to try and use the 1TB TC as TM backup for three machines would be very limiting and a backward step. I suppose I could use it as TM
Re: Adding a Time Capsule - network options/decisions
Thanks very much for the lightning response Ronni! On the network set-up, you have confirmed what I thought about setting up the TC as the primary wireless network. It will be nice if the Airport Express is not needed to extend the network - I can put it back to use as a music feed to my stereo (once I get my stereo fixed). However the walls of our house are double brick (no cavity) on the upper floor and solid granite on the lower floor - so wireless performance is affected a lot by proximity to windows/doors!! With the Airport express, neither iMac could connect to it when it was next to the modem/router - I had to run a long ethernet cable further into the house to move the Express nearer to the connecting computers (well, probably more importantly, cutting down the walls it had to transmit through!). The multiple antennae on the TC should help here - but I guess time will tell ;o) Whilst I think I have a reasonable handle on the set-up, I am sure your tutorial would be very useful reference so, yes, I would appreciate the download link. With regard to the disk usage, I think I need to re-evaluate all the various disks I am using and make sure I am using the best units for the best purposes. I have been doing further reading since my first post and have discovered that you cannot set different permissions for different disks/folders - there are different password/authentification options but, whichever you choose applies to any and all TC internal connected drives. I realise I could use a number of encrypted disk images for different users - but I think a simpler strategy will be better. Thanks again for the comprehensive response. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 15/5/12 4:52 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Neil, My goodness Neil, that is a lot of questions to answer in one go ... I'll give a start ;-) I find the best setup is as follows: 1. Modem/Router (wireless or not) connected to Time capsule via ethernet 2. Existing wireless AP/SSID disabled on ADSL Modem/Router 3. Create new Dual-Band Wireless Network using Time Capsule (9/10 it provides a better range than your Billion wireless/router) 4. Connect via wireless to your Macs == You will probably find you may not require the Airport Express to extend the range of this W-Fi Network. When I setup my original 1TB TC, I found I did not need to the Airport Express to extend my Network as I previously had done. If you want to have the TC replace the AE, then you will need to Connect the TC to your modem/router, launch Airport Utility, and re-configure your network on the TC. You can configure it so that it is virtually identical to your existing network. You might find it helpful to copy down on paper some of the settings for the AE before you disconnect it, then use those settings for the TC when you configure it. Use Airport Utility to setup the Dual-Band model Time Capsule, which will allow you to configure your network for BOTH your newer Macs (n) and your older hardware and iPhones (b/g). I created a tutorial in April 2010 titled Airport Extreme N Dual-Band Base Station Network which explains how to setup a Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station, so all devices automatically connect to the band they require. eg. newer Macs iPad to the 5GHz band, iPhone to 2.5GHz band. If you wish to download the tutorial from my website, post back and I'll give the link. On 15/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi all, I was wandering through Officeworks (Albany) this weekend when I saw they had a 1TB time capsule on clearance, marked down to $160. I realised that this was not the current model but it seemed like a good deal - which got even better when they scanned it and it came up as $100! So now I am just weighing up options as to how best to use it: Network set-up My current network comprises: Billion BiPAC 7402VGP ADSL modem with wired/wireless router and VOIP This handles VOIP phones and an ethernet connected iMac. It also is the DHCP server. However, I do not use it for wireless networking. An Airport Express, connected by ethernet to the Billion and set-up in bridge mode to provide a wireless network to which 2 other iMacs and a Macbook Pro connect (though very rarely at the same time). This is an older model, purchased November 2007, Model # M9470X/A so it only has single band wireless. My new Time capsule is Model A1355 - which I gather is the 4th generation 2010 model Since it allows simultaneous dual band networks and better wifi performance/range to the earlier Airport, I¹m presuming my best option will be to set this up to create the wireless network and then re-configure the Airport Express to just extend the wireless network? Yes, as above. And probably won't require the Airport Express to extend the network.
Re: Adding a Time Capsule - network options/decisions
Just adding on to Ronni's post,…. (Sorry if I cover anything you already had) ;o) Personally I like the TC to be in Bridge mode and let the modem handle the DHCP settings. That way it's easy to still get to the modem/router if trying to troubleshoot, as you're then working in the IP range that the modem is using. And all devices in the network have the same IP range as the modem. (e.g. in the same of the Netgear it's generally 192.168.0.2-255, the modem being 192.168.0.1). A good use for the TC if you find a part use of it, is a software storage for all the machines. e.g. new software updates come out, download them once from Apple's support page (support.apple.com) then chuck them on the data drive on the TC and everyone can install them from there manually. Easy, efficient and saves re-downloading all the files. Though in this day and age of large downloads, it's not a big issue. I suppose I use that part more for machines I work on as then all the downloads are readily accessible easily. The Dual band's do seem to have a better range I've found with the wireless, so hopefully that will run better for you. If you find it's in one corner of the house and sometimes struggles to get to the other end, you can try making a cheap reflector. If you bend a piece of cardboard wrapped in basic home tinfoil into a half curve and then put it behind the TC, it can help push the wireless signal back downwards. Seeing as it like to transmit in both directions, if it's not being used in one direction then reflecting it all back the other way can sometimes help push it that little bit further for you. Height also helps. So if it's on the floor or lower down, look at increasing the height slightly. Also, ensuring it's not running on the same wireless range as neighbouring wireless can also help. (Something like iStumbler. http://www.istumbler.net/) Useful to see if your wireless is on the same channel as neighbours. If so, then sometimes changing this can help with a better range as well. Then you're not competing with the same channel. (I find that 4 of my neighbours all share channel 10,..lol). Just a few more thoughts I had in passing,…… there was more I'm sure but tired eyes and brain haven't bought them to the forefront for me to remember,…lol. :o) Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** On 15/05/2012, at 8:11 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Thanks very much for the lightning response Ronni! On the network set-up, you have confirmed what I thought about setting up the TC as the primary wireless network. It will be nice if the Airport Express is not needed to extend the network - I can put it back to use as a music feed to my stereo (once I get my stereo fixed). However the walls of our house are double brick (no cavity) on the upper floor and solid granite on the lower floor - so wireless performance is affected a lot by proximity to windows/doors!! With the Airport express, neither iMac could connect to it when it was next to the modem/router - I had to run a long ethernet cable further into the house to move the Express nearer to the connecting computers (well, probably more importantly, cutting down the walls it had to transmit through!). The multiple antennae on the TC should help here - but I guess time will tell ;o) Whilst I think I have a reasonable handle on the set-up, I am sure your tutorial would be very useful reference so, yes, I would appreciate the download link. With regard to the disk usage, I think I need to re-evaluate all the various disks I am using and make sure I am using the best units for the best purposes. I have been doing further reading since my first post and have discovered that you cannot set different permissions for different disks/folders - there are different password/authentification options but, whichever you choose applies to any and all TC internal connected drives. I realise I could use a number of encrypted disk images for different users - but I think a simpler strategy will be better. Thanks again for the comprehensive response. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 15/5/12 4:52 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Neil, My goodness Neil, that is a lot of questions to answer in one go ... I'll give a start ;-) I find the best setup is as follows: 1. Modem/Router (wireless or not) connected to Time capsule via ethernet 2. Existing wireless AP/SSID disabled on ADSL Modem/Router 3. Create new Dual-Band Wireless Network using Time Capsule (9/10 it provides a better range than your Billion wireless/router) 4. Connect via wireless to your Macs == You will probably find you may not require the Airport Express to extend
Re: Adding a Time Capsule - network options/decisions
Hi Neil, My house is two storey, mainly glass upstairs where my ADSL Modem/Router and Time Capsule are. The bottom level where my computer rooms are is limestone, no cavity. I have full coverage in all areas of my house and can even be connected to my Network at my neighbour's next door. In fact I let them connect to my Network while I was arranging purchase of a new modem/router to setup for them after theirs was struck by lightning. you cannot set different permissions for different disks/folders - there are different password/authentification options but, whichever you choose applies to any and all TC internal connected drives That's correct. Keep your backup strategy simple, or you will find you won't backup. The link to my tutorial for the dual-band network is: http://ronnibrown.net/Airport_Extreme_N_Dual-Band_Wi-Fi_Network.html I hope you find it helpful. Post back if you require more help or suggestions. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 15/05/2012, at 8:11 PM, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote: Thanks very much for the lightning response Ronni! On the network set-up, you have confirmed what I thought about setting up the TC as the primary wireless network. It will be nice if the Airport Express is not needed to extend the network - I can put it back to use as a music feed to my stereo (once I get my stereo fixed). However the walls of our house are double brick (no cavity) on the upper floor and solid granite on the lower floor - so wireless performance is affected a lot by proximity to windows/doors!! With the Airport express, neither iMac could connect to it when it was next to the modem/router - I had to run a long ethernet cable further into the house to move the Express nearer to the connecting computers (well, probably more importantly, cutting down the walls it had to transmit through!). The multiple antennae on the TC should help here - but I guess time will tell ;o) Whilst I think I have a reasonable handle on the set-up, I am sure your tutorial would be very useful reference so, yes, I would appreciate the download link. With regard to the disk usage, I think I need to re-evaluate all the various disks I am using and make sure I am using the best units for the best purposes. I have been doing further reading since my first post and have discovered that you cannot set different permissions for different disks/folders - there are different password/authentification options but, whichever you choose applies to any and all TC internal connected drives. I realise I could use a number of encrypted disk images for different users - but I think a simpler strategy will be better. Thanks again for the comprehensive response. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com on 15/5/12 4:52 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Neil, My goodness Neil, that is a lot of questions to answer in one go ... I'll give a start ;-) I find the best setup is as follows: 1. Modem/Router (wireless or not) connected to Time capsule via ethernet 2. Existing wireless AP/SSID disabled on ADSL Modem/Router 3. Create new Dual-Band Wireless Network using Time Capsule (9/10 it provides a better range than your Billion wireless/router) 4. Connect via wireless to your Macs == You will probably find you may not require the Airport Express to extend the range of this W-Fi Network. When I setup my original 1TB TC, I found I did not need to the Airport Express to extend my Network as I previously had done. If you want to have the TC replace the AE, then you will need to Connect the TC to your modem/router, launch Airport Utility, and re-configure your network on the TC. You can configure it so that it is virtually identical to your existing network. You might find it helpful to copy down on paper some of the settings for the AE before you disconnect it, then use those settings for the TC when you configure it. Use Airport Utility to setup the Dual-Band model Time Capsule, which will allow you to configure your network for BOTH your newer Macs (n) and your older hardware and iPhones (b/g). I created a tutorial in April 2010 titled Airport Extreme N Dual-Band Base Station Network which explains how to setup a Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n Wi-Fi Base Station, so all devices automatically connect to the band they require. eg. newer Macs iPad to the 5GHz band, iPhone to 2.5GHz band. If you wish to download the tutorial from my website, post back and I'll give the link. On 15/05/2012, at 2:56 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Hi all, I was wandering through Officeworks (Albany) this weekend when I saw they had a 1TB time capsule on clearance, marked down to $160. I realised that this was not the current model but it seemed like a good deal - which got even better when they scanned it and it came
Upgrading to Reunion v10
Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid MacBook Pro 13 inch -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrading to Reunion v10
Hi Ian At risk of suggesting something you've already covered, if I were in your shoes I'd pose that question via http://www.reuniontalk.com - that way you reach not only a bunch of fellow Mac users, but a bunch of fellow Reunion for Mac users. I do have Reunion, but I haven't had time to upgrade to version 10 yet. I see that 10.0.1 maintenance release is just out, so that might solve you're problem if it's bug related. Cheers, Steven On 16/05/2012, at 12:52 AM, Ian Reid wrote: Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrading to Reunion v10
Hi Ian, Did you backup your Reunion 9 files before updating? Are these the instructions you have followed to update your Family Files? Step 5 is where you have your old family file 'highlighted' in the window and you click 'open' Step 6 is where 'Upgrade Family File' appears. - If you previously used Reunion 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 you'll need to upgrade (or convert) your family files to the new Reunion 10 file format. Follow the steps below. Open the Reunion 10 application by double-clicking the Reunion 10 icon in your Applications folder. If you downloaded Reunion 10, a window will ask for the license information you received by email after purchasing Reunion. Enter your User Name and License Code and then click Enter License Code A window titled Open should appear. If not, choose File - Open. Select your old Reunion family file. You may need to navigate through your folders to locate your old family files. Most likely, your family files are located inside an old Reunion folder. If you're upgrading from version 8, the Reunion 8 folder is probably inside the Applications folder. If the name of your old family file is gray in the Open window list, then click Cancel, find your family file in the Finder, and rename your family file using an extension of .familyfile (for example: My Family File.familyfile) When you have your older version family file highlighted in the window, click Open. A window titled Upgrade Family File will appear. You'll be asked to name the new, converted family file. Click Convert and Reunion will create a new, version 10 family file and open it for you. Your old family file will not be changed in any way. The information in your new family file will be the same as the information in your old family file. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 15/05/2012, at 10:52 PM, Ian Reid ianre...@westnet.com.au wrote: Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid MacBook Pro 13 inch -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrading to Reunion v10
Sorry Ian, WAMUG mailing list plain text format striped all the numbers from my previous post g So I will delete what I previously posted and try again. Did you backup your Reunion 9 files before updating? Are these the instructions you have followed to update your Family Files? Step 5 is where you have your old family file 'highlighted' in the window and you click 'open' Step 6 is where 'Upgrade Family File' appears. Upgrading Your Family Files: If you previously used Reunion 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 you'll need to upgrade (or convert) your family files to the new Reunion 10 file format. Follow the steps below. 1. Open the Reunion 10 application by double-clicking the Reunion 10 icon in your Applications folder. 2. If you downloaded Reunion 10, a window will ask for the license information you received by email after purchasing Reunion. Enter your User Name and License Code and then click Enter License Code 3. A window titled Open should appear. If not, choose File - Open. 4. Select your old Reunion family file. You may need to navigate through your folders to locate your old family files. Most likely, your family files are located inside an old Reunion folder. If you're upgrading from version 8, the Reunion 8 folder is probably inside the Applications folder. If the name of your old family file is gray in the Open window list, then click Cancel, find your family file in the Finder, and rename your family file using an extension of .familyfile (for example: My Family File.familyfile) 5. When you have your older version family file highlighted in the window, click Open. 6. A window titled Upgrade Family File will appear. You'll be asked to name the new, converted family file. 7. Click Convert and Reunion will create a new, version 10 family file and open it for you. Your old family file will not be changed in any way. The information in your new family file will be the same as the information in your old family file. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.7.4 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 16/05/2012, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Ian, Did you backup your Reunion 9 files before updating? Are these the instructions you have followed to update your Family Files? Step 5 is where you have your old family file 'highlighted' in the window and you click 'open' Step 6 is where 'Upgrade Family File' appears. On 15/05/2012, at 10:52 PM, Ian Reid ianre...@westnet.com.au wrote: Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid MacBook Pro 13 inch -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrading to Reunion v10
Hi Ronni On 16 May 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Ian, Did you backup your Reunion 9 files before updating? It is scheduled for Sunday nights, so I presume it happened. Are these the instructions you have followed to update your Family Files? Yes Step 5 is where you have your old family file 'highlighted' in the window and you click 'open' Step 6 is where 'Upgrade Family File' appears. Correct - If you previously used Reunion 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 you'll need to upgrade (or convert) your family files to the new Reunion 10 file format. Follow the steps below. Open the Reunion 10 application by double-clicking the Reunion 10 icon in your Applications folder. If you downloaded Reunion 10, a window will ask for the license information you received by email after purchasing Reunion. Enter your User Name and License Code and then click Enter License Code A window titled Open should appear. If not, choose File - Open. Select your old Reunion family file. You may need to navigate through your folders to locate your old family files. Most likely, your family files are located inside an old Reunion folder. If you're upgrading from version 8, the Reunion 8 folder is probably inside the Applications folder. If the name of your old family file is gray in the Open window list, then click Cancel, Done. find your family file in the Finder, and rename your family file using an extension of .familyfile (for example: My Family File.familyfile) it was on the desktop and I renamed it When you have your older version family file highlighted in the window, click Open. Done, and all that happens is that the older Version keeps coming up, Maybe I am misreading something. I haven't entered a great amount of data into Reunion yet and it would not be too onerous to just re-enter it into version 10. Anyway, thanks for your comments. Thanks also for your advice some time ago about giving my MacBook Pro time to wake up. It worked. Regards Ian. A window titled Upgrade Family File will appear. You'll be asked to name the new, converted family file. Click Convert and Reunion will create a new, version 10 family file and open it for you. Your old family file will not be changed in any way. The information in your new family file will be the same as the information in your old family file. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 15/05/2012, at 10:52 PM, Ian Reid ianre...@westnet.com.au wrote: Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid MacBook Pro 13 inch -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrading to Reunion v10
Hi Ian I tried to send you an email with screen shots but it bounced. I think you're just about there. When you say 'the older version keeps coming up that's what's supposed to happen. From within Reunion 10 open the file you want to convert and another screen comes up saying Convert. Choose where you want it to be saved and voila - success. Cheers Mike Mike Murray and Lesley Silvester TimeTrackers East Fremantle Western Australia Tel 08 9339 8078 Fax 08 9339 0519 Mob 0407 669 376 British and Australian genealogical and historical research, education, publishing and film-making www.timetrackers.com.au On 16/05/2012, at 11:18 AM, Ian Reid wrote: Hi Ronni On 16 May 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Ian, Did you backup your Reunion 9 files before updating? It is scheduled for Sunday nights, so I presume it happened. Are these the instructions you have followed to update your Family Files? Yes Step 5 is where you have your old family file 'highlighted' in the window and you click 'open' Step 6 is where 'Upgrade Family File' appears. Correct - If you previously used Reunion 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 you'll need to upgrade (or convert) your family files to the new Reunion 10 file format. Follow the steps below. Open the Reunion 10 application by double-clicking the Reunion 10 icon in your Applications folder. If you downloaded Reunion 10, a window will ask for the license information you received by email after purchasing Reunion. Enter your User Name and License Code and then click Enter License Code A window titled Open should appear. If not, choose File - Open. Select your old Reunion family file. You may need to navigate through your folders to locate your old family files. Most likely, your family files are located inside an old Reunion folder. If you're upgrading from version 8, the Reunion 8 folder is probably inside the Applications folder. If the name of your old family file is gray in the Open window list, then click Cancel, Done. find your family file in the Finder, and rename your family file using an extension of .familyfile (for example: My Family File.familyfile) it was on the desktop and I renamed it When you have your older version family file highlighted in the window, click Open. Done, and all that happens is that the older Version keeps coming up, Maybe I am misreading something. I haven't entered a great amount of data into Reunion yet and it would not be too onerous to just re-enter it intoversion 10. Anyway, thanks for your comments. Thanks also for your advice some time ago about giving my MacBook Pro time to wake up. It worked. Regards Ian. A window titled Upgrade Family File will appear. You'll be asked to name the new, converted family file. Click Convert and Reunion will create a new, version 10 family file and open it for you. Your old family file will not be changed in any way. The information in your new family file will be the same as the information in your old family file. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 15/05/2012, at 10:52 PM, Ian Reid ianre...@westnet.com.au wrote: Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid MacBook Pro 13 inch -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Upgrading to Reunion v10
Hi Ian, Thanks Mike, I just returned home and was about to reply telling Ian, he hasn't moved on to Step 7. Which I had in my previous email ;-) 6. A window titled Upgrade Family File will appear. You'll be asked to name the new, converted family file. 7. Click Convert and Reunion will create a NEW, version 10 family file and open it for you. Your old family file will not be changed in any way. The information in your new family file will be the same as the information in your old family file. Another thing though, why has Ian moved his family file to the desktop? All my Reunion 9 files are in a Folder named 'Reunion Files' in Documents. Cheers, Ronni On 16/05/2012, at 12:25 PM, Mike Murray wrote: Hi Ian I tried to send you an email with screen shots but it bounced. I think you're just about there. When you say 'the older version keeps coming up that's what's supposed to happen. From within Reunion 10 open the file you want to convert and another screen comes up saying Convert. Choose where you want it to be saved and voila - success. Cheers Mike Mike Murray and Lesley Silvester TimeTrackers East Fremantle Western Australia Tel 08 9339 8078 Fax 08 9339 0519 Mob 0407 669 376 British and Australian genealogical and historical research, education, publishing and film-making www.timetrackers.com.au On 16/05/2012, at 11:18 AM, Ian Reid wrote: Hi Ronni On 16 May 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Ian, Did you backup your Reunion 9 files before updating? It is scheduled for Sunday nights, so I presume it happened. Are these the instructions you have followed to update your Family Files? Yes Step 5 is where you have your old family file 'highlighted' in the window and you click 'open' Step 6 is where 'Upgrade Family File' appears. Correct - If you previously used Reunion 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 you'll need to upgrade (or convert) your family files to the new Reunion 10 file format. Follow the steps below. Open the Reunion 10 application by double-clicking the Reunion 10 icon in your Applications folder. If you downloaded Reunion 10, a window will ask for the license information you received by email after purchasing Reunion. Enter your User Name and License Code and then click Enter License Code A window titled Open should appear. If not, choose File - Open. Select your old Reunion family file. You may need to navigate through your folders to locate your old family files. Most likely, your family files are located inside an old Reunion folder. If you're upgrading from version 8, the Reunion 8 folder is probably inside the Applications folder. If the name of your old family file is gray in the Open window list, then click Cancel, Done. find your family file in the Finder, and rename your family file using an extension of .familyfile (for example: My Family File.familyfile) it was on the desktop and I renamed it When you have your older version family file highlighted in the window, click Open. Done, and all that happens is that the older Version keeps coming up, Maybe I am misreading something. I haven't entered a great amount of data into Reunion yet and it would not be too onerous to just re-enter it into version 10. Anyway, thanks for your comments. Thanks also for your advice some time ago about giving my MacBook Pro time to wake up. It worked. Regards Ian. A window titled Upgrade Family File will appear. You'll be asked to name the new, converted family file. Click Convert and Reunion will create a new, version 10 family file and open it for you. Your old family file will not be changed in any way. The information in your new family file will be the same as the information in your old family file. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 15/05/2012, at 10:52 PM, Ian Reid ianre...@westnet.com.au wrote: Good evening All Is anyone else having difficulty transferring from Reunion 9 to 10, particularly in upgrading old Family Files. Under Answers. How do I upgrade a family file from an earlier version , I continue to get stuck at Point 5. Instead of the Upgrade family File, all I get is the old version. I reckon I am following instructions but obviously am not. Thanks in advance. Ian Reid MacBook Pro 13 inch -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
