Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress
Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users ,This was troubling me! Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when it was Backing Up.Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder Preferences General.I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine Buddy'widget - but not mounted on the Desktop.This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress.Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups.For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best!Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time Machine backups to occur during Power Naps?The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is happening in the background.While a backup isin progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow (Two Arrows in the "clock face") When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the "clock face")Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment.Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very tiny :(Cheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHzQuad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @7200rpm HDOS X 10.9 MavericksWindows 7 Ultimate (undersufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:37 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: What has happened to the limit on mail retained in IOS7 Mail? Used to be 50 but I currently have 318 showing for two users and counting! Can not find where to change it. Hi Severin, Stop looking, you won't find it! The 50 limit option to limit the number of emails displayed in the mail app was removed in iOS7 and you can not change back to iOS6. Apple need to hear from you if you want to see a change: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ lodge a complaint under iPhone or iPad and request this feature to be returned. There are a lot of people who want it changed back to what it was in iOS6. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress
Hi All My MacBookPro couldn't find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 IOS 7.03 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users , This was troubling me! Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when it was Backing Up. Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder Preferences General. I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop. This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups. For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best! Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time Machine backups to occur during Power Naps? The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is happening in the background. While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow (Two Arrows in the clock face) When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face) Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment. Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very tiny :( Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress
Hi Brian, My Time Machine backups have always been working perfectly in Mavericks, that has never been a problem. My post was about the Time Capsule / Time Machine backup not showing on the Desktop when Time Machine is backing up. Do you use Time Machine to backup to a Time Capsule Data Disk... Or do you use Time Machine to backup to an external drive attached to your MBP? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:14 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi All My MacBookPro couldn't find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 IOS 7.03 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users , This was troubling me! Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when it was Backing Up. Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder Preferences General. I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop. This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups. For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best! Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time Machine backups to occur during Power Naps? The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is happening in the background. While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow (Two Arrows in the clock face) When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face) Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment. Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very tiny :( Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
Thanks Ronni, have sent it! Severin On 29 Oct 2013, at 2:52 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:37 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: What has happened to the limit on mail retained in IOS7 Mail? Used to be 50 but I currently have 318 showing for two users and counting! Can not find where to change it. Hi Severin, Stop looking, you won't find it! The 50 limit option to limit the number of emails displayed in the mail app was removed in iOS7 and you can not change back to iOS6. Apple need to hear from you if you want to see a change: http://www.apple.com/feedback/ lodge a complaint under iPhone or iPad and request this feature to be returned. There are a lot of people who want it changed back to what it was in iOS6. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
Safari 6.1 seems to have hidden - or dropped - one of my favourite features: to select the printer when a page is viewed in the Reader mode. Earlier Safari versions would bring up a toolbar of icons when the mouse cursor was bumped at the bottom of the page. Menu included a printer. Safari 6.1 does not do this, requiring me to select the printer from a standard tool bar menu. (But I do appreciate the font size adjustment of the page in Reader mode!)I seem to recall there was also a slightly different toolbar displayed when a PDF file was viewed in Safari. Question Part 1: Can the floating Reader-view toolbar(s) be restored? I've been printing-to-PDF the various help/blog pages about Mavericks for later perusal. Question Part 2: Is there a single-click option that will select the sequence File - Print - PDF - Save as PDF ?? Regards Alan Alan Smith iMac late 2012, OS X 10.8.5 Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Email to group
Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
And I use the free/ shareware (remember that term!) app TinkerTool to set a bunch of settings like this. Not sure if it's available for Mavericks yet. Rob On 29/10/13 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: Hi Mavericks adoptees, Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as Lion and Mountain Lion do. You can open it easily enough by holding down *Option *while choosing Library from the Finder's*Go* menu, or you can use*Terminal.app *and**type the command chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit*Enter* and your User Library shows in Finder. Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible all the time---no more fiddling in Terminal. All you need to do is* open your Home Folder in its own window*, choose*View Show View Options*, and select the *Show Library Folder *checkbox. I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion Lion do; so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:39 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter Hi Peter, To address messages to a Group is the same as it has always been since OS X 10.4. 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:09 pm, Rob Phillips r.phill...@iinet.net.au wrote: And I use the free/ shareware (remember that term!) app TinkerTool to set a bunch of settings like this. Why use Third Party apps when they are not required. Not sure if it's available for Mavericks yet. TinkerTool Release 5.0 (Build 131022) adds support for OS X 10.9. Cheers, Ronni Rob On 29/10/13 1:00 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: Hi Mavericks adoptees, Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as Lion and Mountain Lion do. You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your User Library shows in Finder. Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox. I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion Lion do; so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
Hi Ronni Yes, that's exactly how I did it before, except now I can't drag it (or double click it) to go into the address field. I can drag it to the field but nothing happens? or double click it and nothing happens. I'll try a few things like - restart the program or restart the computer. Thanks, I'll let you know how I get on. Peter On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:22 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:39 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter Hi Peter, To address messages to a Group is the same as it has always been since OS X 10.4. 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
Hi Alan, In Safari 7.0 Mavericks: File Print - PDF Save as PDF when viewing a page in Reader Brings up the Print Dialog window etc Still works the same as before. If you click at the bottom of the page it takes your out of Reader Mode back to normal view of the page. Cheers, Ronni On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:38 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Safari 6.1 seems to have hidden - or dropped - one of my favourite features: to select the printer when a page is viewed in the Reader mode. Earlier Safari versions would bring up a toolbar of icons when the mouse cursor was bumped at the bottom of the page. Menu included a printer. Safari 6.1 does not do this, requiring me to select the printer from a standard tool bar menu. (But I do appreciate the font size adjustment of the page in Reader mode!)I seem to recall there was also a slightly different toolbar displayed when a PDF file was viewed in Safari. Question Part 1: Can the floating Reader-view toolbar(s) be restored? I've been printing-to-PDF the various help/blog pages about Mavericks for later perusal. Question Part 2: Is there a single-click option that will select the sequence File - Print - PDF - Save as PDF ?? Regards Alan Alan Smith iMac late 2012, OS X 10.8.5 Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
Also note, the little floating menu for these things can differ if you have Adobe Reader installed, (or updated) as sometimes it's the Preview floating window and other times it can be the Adobe Reader floating window. (normally can tell by the number of choices available, and/or the Adobe Reader symbol on the far left (I think it is). Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 29/10/2013, at 8:51 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, In Safari 7.0 Mavericks: File Print - PDF Save as PDF when viewing a page in Reader Brings up the Print Dialog window etc Still works the same as before. If you click at the bottom of the page it takes your out of Reader Mode back to normal view of the page. Cheers, Ronni On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:38 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Safari 6.1 seems to have hidden - or dropped - one of my favourite features: to select the printer when a page is viewed in the Reader mode. Earlier Safari versions would bring up a toolbar of icons when the mouse cursor was bumped at the bottom of the page. Menu included a printer. Safari 6.1 does not do this, requiring me to select the printer from a standard tool bar menu. (But I do appreciate the font size adjustment of the page in Reader mode!)I seem to recall there was also a slightly different toolbar displayed when a PDF file was viewed in Safari. Question Part 1: Can the floating Reader-view toolbar(s) be restored? I've been printing-to-PDF the various help/blog pages about Mavericks for later perusal. Question Part 2: Is there a single-click option that will select the sequence File - Print - PDF - Save as PDF ?? Regards Alan Alan Smith iMac late 2012, OS X 10.8.5 Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
When you drag it in (or double click it) do you see the name of the group show up, or just nothing at all shows up? If the group name shows up, but nothing else then you may have Mail menu - Preferences - Composing - When sending to a group, show all member addresses unticked). If it's ticked and you type in the group name, it will then change to show all the individual email addresses (so ensure to put it in BCC, which I'm sure you do) ;o) ……whereas with it unticked, it will just show the actual group name. (Of course, I could be on the wrong complete tangent here as well) :o)) Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 29/10/2013, at 8:50 PM, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni Yes, that's exactly how I did it before, except now I can't drag it (or double click it) to go into the address field. I can drag it to the field but nothing happens? or double click it and nothing happens. I'll try a few things like - restart the program or restart the computer. Thanks, I'll let you know how I get on. Peter On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:22 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:39 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter Hi Peter, To address messages to a Group is the same as it has always been since OS X 10.4. 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
Cheers, Ronni Hi Peter, I sent a couple of Group emails today. 1. Have Contacts Open 2. Have a New Message Open 3. Start to type the Name of the Group into the BBC: field and it will automatically complete. 4. Save as a Draft (just for you to test) and you will see that the name has become the live address 5. Then you can send when you have completed the email message Cheers, Ronni On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:50 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni Yes, that's exactly how I did it before, except now I can't drag it (or double click it) to go into the address field. I can drag it to the field but nothing happens? or double click it and nothing happens. I'll try a few things like - restart the program or restart the computer. Thanks, I'll let you know how I get on. Peter On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:22 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:39 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter Hi Peter, To address messages to a Group is the same as it has always been since OS X 10.4. 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives backups - retitled for accuracy
Hi Ronni I back up to a 2TB Time Capsule in extension(?) mode, my household wireless network includes an Airport Express as the main access to the modem, Airport Extreme - in 'extension mode' - for other external HD storage - movies/tv, and MacMini for the TV. After updating to Mavericks TimeMachine wouldn't backup, it acknowledged the data disk but timed out when backing up. Apple Support Community had this listed as an issue, so I thought I would mention it incase other members had this backup issue. After turning the entire network off it self sorted, found the data disk and of it went merrily backing up, with the oldest back acknowledge as 22 Dec 2012 - so all is good. One improvement I have noticed in Mavericks is when my MBP wakes after opening lid or button tap the password accepts the first character instead of highlighting it blue and erasing it as the second character is entered! so, no double entering in the first character very time. Brian On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:24 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Brian, My Time Machine backups have always been working perfectly in Mavericks, that has never been a problem. My post was about the Time Capsule / Time Machine backup not showing on the Desktop when Time Machine is backing up. Do you use Time Machine to backup to a Time Capsule Data Disk... Or do you use Time Machine to backup to an external drive attached to your MBP? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:14 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi All My MacBookPro couldn't find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 IOS 7.03 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users , This was troubling me! Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when it was Backing Up. Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder Preferences General. I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop. This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups. For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best! Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time Machine backups to occur during Power Naps? The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is happening in the background. While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow (Two Arrows in the clock face) When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face) Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment. Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very tiny :( Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
All, I'm having the same issue as Peter. Only discovered it to see if Peter's problem happened for me, and golly gosh it did! It's like Mail has lost it's relationship with Contacts - Groups. In Mail, if I enter an email address of an individual, Mail autofills as expected. In Mail, if I enter a name of any of my groups, nothing happens. If I open Contacts and drag the name of the group into Mail, nothing happens. If I open Contacts and select one or many Contacts and drag them into the Address fields of Mail, nothing happens. In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. I have successfully sent to group addresses many times in previous versions of Mail and OSX. Currently running Mail 7.0 and OSX 10.9 Tim On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:07 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Cheers, Ronni Hi Peter, I sent a couple of Group emails today. 1. Have Contacts Open 2. Have a New Message Open 3. Start to type the Name of the Group into the BBC: field and it will automatically complete. 4. Save as a Draft (just for you to test) and you will see that the name has become the live address 5. Then you can send when you have completed the email message Cheers, Ronni On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:50 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni Yes, that's exactly how I did it before, except now I can't drag it (or double click it) to go into the address field. I can drag it to the field but nothing happens? or double click it and nothing happens. I'll try a few things like - restart the program or restart the computer. Thanks, I'll let you know how I get on. Peter On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:22 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:39 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter Hi Peter, To address messages to a Group is the same as it has always been since OS X 10.4. 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
Hi Daniel and Ronni Its the floating menu that has disappeared: it may then be a Preview issue rather than a Safari one. Will look into that when I have more time.I don't have Adobe Reader installed (I think) but Adobe gets very tricky with coercing users into downloading that x*x* app! Gloomy news, Ronni, from Mavericks. One step forward, two steps back. I take it Safari 7 doesn't have the floating toolbar in Reader mode either. Regards Alan On 29/10/2013, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Also note, the little floating menu for these things can differ if you have Adobe Reader installed, (or updated) as sometimes it's the Preview floating window and other times it can be the Adobe Reader floating window. (normally can tell by the number of choices available, and/or the Adobe Reader symbol on the far left (I think it is). Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 29/10/2013, at 8:51 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, In Safari 7.0 Mavericks: File Print - PDF Save as PDF when viewing a page in Reader Brings up the Print Dialog window etc Still works the same as before. If you click at the bottom of the page it takes your out of Reader Mode back to normal view of the page. Cheers, Ronni On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:38 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Safari 6.1 seems to have hidden - or dropped - one of my favourite features: to select the printer when a page is viewed in the Reader mode. Earlier Safari versions would bring up a toolbar of icons when the mouse cursor was bumped at the bottom of the page. Menu included a printer. Safari 6.1 does not do this, requiring me to select the printer from a standard tool bar menu. (But I do appreciate the font size adjustment of the page in Reader mode!)I seem to recall there was also a slightly different toolbar displayed when a PDF file was viewed in Safari. Question Part 1: Can the floating Reader-view toolbar(s) be restored? I've been printing-to-PDF the various help/blog pages about Mavericks for later perusal. Question Part 2: Is there a single-click option that will select the sequence File - Print - PDF - Save as PDF ?? Regards Alan Alan Smith iMac late 2012, OS X 10.8.5 Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. Okay. A little further testing with consistent replicated but two results. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the TO, or the CC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses appear, and when the email is opened, all the addresses appear. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, is it working or is it not? I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then tabbed or clicked to the next field. Thanks Tim-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
Ronni I understand it is working for you, but Mail does not auto complete the group name for me, nor apparently Peter. Previous versions used to, now they don't. I understand and agree with principles of only using bcc. The failing here is the address not auto completing. All I see is the plain text of the group name as I have typed, nothing changes, nor indicates any acceptance by Mail of the address. I'll leave it for tonight and see if I can find any settings in Mail or Contacts another time. Tim Sent from my iPad On 29/10/2013, at 22:46, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:37 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. All the Addresses should NOT show. BCC will only show the Group Name 'business contacts' or whatever your Group is named. That is the correct way to send undisclosed recipients. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. As it should and always has. I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, is it working or is it not? It is working as I mentioned in my original reply to Peter I sent a couple of Group emails today without any problems. I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then tabbed or clicked to the next field. You still can if you want to show all the recipients addresses in the Group In a new message, start to type the Group name in the TO: section, then when it auto completes the name... It shows live, hold your cursor on the group name, click the tiny arrow Expand Group Then the Group Name is gone and all the recipients names addresses show. All are live! Finish your message hit send. But you should not send Group emails this way with everyones address showing. That is why it is correct to send all Group emails using the Group Name in the BCC field. Cheers, Ronni Thanks Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks-Time Capsule TM drives backups - retitled for accuracy
In contrast, my 2TB Time Capsule which backs up both my iMac and my wives Macbook was perfectly happy with the changeover after the updated and just carried on seamlessly, when I turned TM back on and pointed it to the Time Capsule disk.I seem to be one of the lucky ones in this. Severin Crisp On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:11 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi Ronni I back up to a 2TB Time Capsule in extension(?) mode, my household wireless network includes an Airport Express as the main access to the modem, Airport Extreme - in 'extension mode' - for other external HD storage - movies/tv, and MacMini for the TV. After updating to Mavericks TimeMachine wouldn't backup, it acknowledged the data disk but timed out when backing up. Apple Support Community had this listed as an issue, so I thought I would mention it incase other members had this backup issue. After turning the entire network off it self sorted, found the data disk and of it went merrily backing up, with the oldest back acknowledge as 22 Dec 2012 - so all is good. One improvement I have noticed in Mavericks is when my MBP wakes after opening lid or button tap the password accepts the first character instead of highlighting it blue and erasing it as the second character is entered! so, no double entering in the first character very time. Brian On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:24 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Brian, My Time Machine backups have always been working perfectly in Mavericks, that has never been a problem. My post was about the Time Capsule / Time Machine backup not showing on the Desktop when Time Machine is backing up. Do you use Time Machine to backup to a Time Capsule Data Disk... Or do you use Time Machine to backup to an external drive attached to your MBP? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 29 Oct 2013, at 3:14 pm, Brian Risbey risb...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi All My MacBookPro couldn't find my time machine for 2 days, eventually after reading Apple Support found out that all my wireless stations should be restarted. Now working after backing up over 32GB. Brian Sent from my iPhone5 IOS 7.03 On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:13, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Mavericks Time Capsule/Time Machine backup users , This was troubling me! Why my Time Capsule/Time Machine backup was not showing on the Desktop when it was Backing Up. Even with the appropriate box checked in Finder Preferences General. I could see it in /Volumes, and see it was backing up in 'Time Machine Buddy' widget - but not mounted on the Desktop. This is a 'New Feature' in Mavericks, Time Capsule TM drives don't appear on the desktop anymore when a backup is in progress. Externally attached TM drives being mounted do appear apparently - I have not checked this as I use a Time Capsule for my TM backups. For better or worse the animation of the TM icon is gone. It's just the new look for Mavericks. Apple have decided this is best! Whether it is to accommodate energy efficiency or to easily permit Time Machine backups to occur during Power Naps? The Time Machine menu in the menu bar lets you know when a backup is happening in the background. While a backup is in progress, the menu icon includes an additional arrow (Two Arrows in the clock face) When Time Machine is not backing up (only One Arrow in the clock face) Mavericks-Time Capsule Time Machine backups.png Yikes I will be in real trouble with WAMUG, I've included a 19KB attachment. Daniel, I never send attachments... just this once... and it is only very tiny :( Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
Hi Ronni, It appears that after using Terminal to find ~/Library, it now stays permanently in the User, or Home, folder. Regards John On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Mavericks adoptees, Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as Lion and Mountain Lion do. You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your User Library shows in Finder. Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox. I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion Lion do; so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
Hi John, Yes, the Terminal command will make the User Library permanently visible (until the next update 9.0.1 if Mavericks does the same as previous OS X). Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 30 Oct 2013, at 6:36 am, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni, It appears that after using Terminal to find ~/Library, it now stays permanently in the User, or Home, folder. Regards John On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Mavericks adoptees, Mavericks hides the user Library folder ( ~/Library) by default, just as Lion and Mountain Lion do. You can open it easily enough by holding down Option while choosing Library from the Finder’s Go menu, or you can use Terminal.app and type the command chflags nohidden ~/Library (without the quotes) and hit Enter and your User Library shows in Finder. Mavericks introduces an easier way to make the user Library folder visible all the time—no more fiddling in Terminal. All you need to do is open your Home Folder in its own window, choose View Show View Options, and select the Show Library Folder checkbox. I would imagine Mavericks will behave the same way Mountain Lion Lion do; so ever time an update appears (10.9.1 or 10.9.2), the User Library will be re-hidden and you'll have to repeat this procedure... but it will be much quicker than having to go into Terminal every time after each update to the OS to have ~/Library folder visible all the time. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
On 29/10/2013, at 9:21 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel and Ronni Its the floating menu that has disappeared: it may then be a Preview issue rather than a Safari one. Will look into that when I have more time.I don't have Adobe Reader installed (I think) but Adobe gets very tricky with coercing users into downloading that x*x* app! No, it's a documented Mavericks issue. Nothing to do with either Preview or Safari really. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Mavericks - Unhide the User Library Folder
On 30/10/2013, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi John, Yes, the Terminal command will make the User Library permanently visible (until the next update 9.0.1 if Mavericks does the same as previous OS X). Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 30 Oct 2013, at 6:36 am, John Thompson jet...@iprimus.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni, It appears that after using Terminal to find ~/Library, it now stays permanently in the User, or Home, folder. Regards John On 29 Oct 2013, at 1:00 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Having exposed the ~/Library folder, simply drag it to the Finder Window's sidebar or Toolbar. You'll never lose it again. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
Hi Alan, Command+P still works to display the Print Window in Reader Mode or normal view mode. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel and Ronni Its the floating menu that has disappeared: it may then be a Preview issue rather than a Safari one. Will look into that when I have more time.I don't have Adobe Reader installed (I think) but Adobe gets very tricky with coercing users into downloading that x*x* app! Gloomy news, Ronni, from Mavericks. One step forward, two steps back. I take it Safari 7 doesn't have the floating toolbar in Reader mode either. Regards Alan On 29/10/2013, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Also note, the little floating menu for these things can differ if you have Adobe Reader installed, (or updated) as sometimes it's the Preview floating window and other times it can be the Adobe Reader floating window. (normally can tell by the number of choices available, and/or the Adobe Reader symbol on the far left (I think it is). Kind regards Daniel Sent from my iPhone 5 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. On 29/10/2013, at 8:51 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Alan, In Safari 7.0 Mavericks: File Print - PDF Save as PDF when viewing a page in Reader Brings up the Print Dialog window etc Still works the same as before. If you click at the bottom of the page it takes your out of Reader Mode back to normal view of the page. Cheers, Ronni On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:38 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Safari 6.1 seems to have hidden - or dropped - one of my favourite features: to select the printer when a page is viewed in the Reader mode. Earlier Safari versions would bring up a toolbar of icons when the mouse cursor was bumped at the bottom of the page. Menu included a printer. Safari 6.1 does not do this, requiring me to select the printer from a standard tool bar menu. (But I do appreciate the font size adjustment of the page in Reader mode!)I seem to recall there was also a slightly different toolbar displayed when a PDF file was viewed in Safari. Question Part 1: Can the floating Reader-view toolbar(s) be restored? I've been printing-to-PDF the various help/blog pages about Mavericks for later perusal. Question Part 2: Is there a single-click option that will select the sequence File - Print - PDF - Save as PDF ?? Regards Alan Alan Smith iMac late 2012, OS X 10.8.5 Regards, Alan Alan Smith Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.2 iPad2; ATV2 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Email to group
Hi Everyone Just to advise what happened, after a restart (and this may not have been the reason) I was able to send a/the group. I did this by starting to type the name of the group into the 'To' field, and up it popped. I had never done it this way previously, I had always just double clicked the group. I did try to drag the group to the field but this didn't work either. Anyway, emails sent and all is well. Just slightly different ways of doing things each upgrade. Many thanks Kind regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
I notice that since I went to Mavericks inserting recipients when sending an email (in Apple Mail) is different. I used to be able to double click each one from contacts but now that does not work. I have to select each recipient in contacts then click TO. Takes twice as long and is especially annoying when I have quite a few to add. On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:50 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi Ronni Yes, that's exactly how I did it before, except now I can't drag it (or double click it) to go into the address field. I can drag it to the field but nothing happens? or double click it and nothing happens. I'll try a few things like - restart the program or restart the computer. Thanks, I'll let you know how I get on. Peter On 29 Oct 2013, at 8:22 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 7:39 pm, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote: Hi everyone I have to send an email to a group, however since upgrading to Mavericks I am having problems. When I go to 'Show addresses' it won't let me select the group! Nothing appears in the address line? I'm sure I'm missing something but I don't know what? I don't want to send them one by one as there are a 120 of them. Kind regards Peter Hi Peter, To address messages to a Group is the same as it has always been since OS X 10.4. 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.9 Mavericks Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
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Re: How to print as PDF from Safari Reader
Thanks Peter I am using Mountain Lion! An undocumented feature of 10.8.5 Supp 1? (But will upgrade when 10.9.1 is released. And I'll be prepared for it.) Regards Alan Sent from my iPad On 30 Oct 2013, at 7:38 am, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: On 29/10/2013, at 9:21 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi Daniel and Ronni Its the floating menu that has disappeared: it may then be a Preview issue rather than a Safari one. Will look into that when I have more time.I don't have Adobe Reader installed (I think) but Adobe gets very tricky with coercing users into downloading that x*x* app! No, it's a documented Mavericks issue. Nothing to do with either Preview or Safari really. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
Hello, A bit more testing this morning. I have found that entering the name of a 'Smart Group' created in Contacts will NOT auto complete in the Address line of Mail I have found that entering the name of a standard group to which I have dragged contacts (from the Smart group of the same group of people) then Mail WILL auto complete as expected. How does this work for others? Tim On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:06 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Ronni I understand it is working for you, but Mail does not auto complete the group name for me, nor apparently Peter. Previous versions used to, now they don't. I understand and agree with principles of only using bcc. The failing here is the address not auto completing. All I see is the plain text of the group name as I have typed, nothing changes, nor indicates any acceptance by Mail of the address. I'll leave it for tonight and see if I can find any settings in Mail or Contacts another time. Tim Sent from my iPad On 29/10/2013, at 22:46, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:37 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. All the Addresses should NOT show. BCC will only show the Group Name 'business contacts' or whatever your Group is named. That is the correct way to send undisclosed recipients. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. As it should and always has. I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, is it working or is it not? It is working as I mentioned in my original reply to Peter I sent a couple of Group emails today without any problems. I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then tabbed or clicked to the next field. You still can if you want to show all the recipients addresses in the Group In a new message, start to type the Group name in the TO: section, then when it auto completes the name... It shows live, hold your cursor on the group name, click the tiny arrow Expand Group Then the Group Name is gone and all the recipients names addresses show. All are live! Finish your message hit send. But you should not send Group emails this way with everyones address showing. That is why it is correct to send all Group emails using the Group Name in the BCC field. Cheers, Ronni Thanks Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
I have found similar behavior and for me the fix was to go to the Previous Recipients from the Window menu (of the Mail application) and remove the none functioning group from that list. Now all my groups auto fill and, when pressing enter, load the group name as a live set of addresses, in any of the fields. YMMV regards, robin On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:09 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, A bit more testing this morning. I have found that entering the name of a 'Smart Group' created in Contacts will NOT auto complete in the Address line of Mail I have found that entering the name of a standard group to which I have dragged contacts (from the Smart group of the same group of people) then Mail WILL auto complete as expected. How does this work for others? Tim On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:06 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Ronni I understand it is working for you, but Mail does not auto complete the group name for me, nor apparently Peter. Previous versions used to, now they don't. I understand and agree with principles of only using bcc. The failing here is the address not auto completing. All I see is the plain text of the group name as I have typed, nothing changes, nor indicates any acceptance by Mail of the address. I'll leave it for tonight and see if I can find any settings in Mail or Contacts another time. Tim Sent from my iPad On 29/10/2013, at 22:46, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:37 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. All the Addresses should NOT show. BCC will only show the Group Name 'business contacts' or whatever your Group is named. That is the correct way to send undisclosed recipients. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. As it should and always has. I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, is it working or is it not? It is working as I mentioned in my original reply to Peter I sent a couple of Group emails today without any problems. I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then tabbed or clicked to the next field. You still can if you want to show all the recipients addresses in the Group In a new message, start to type the Group name in the TO: section, then when it auto completes the name... It shows live, hold your cursor on the group name, click the tiny arrow Expand Group Then the Group Name is gone and all the recipients names addresses show. All are live! Finish your message hit send. But you should not send Group emails this way with everyones address showing. That is why it is correct to send all Group emails using the Group Name in the BCC field. Cheers, Ronni Thanks Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
Hi Tim, Isn't that what I explained in my first reply to Peter... I never mentioned to create a Smart Group? This is exactly what my first reply was: /Quote: 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: /End Quote: Cheers, Ronni On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:09 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, A bit more testing this morning. I have found that entering the name of a 'Smart Group' created in Contacts will NOT auto complete in the Address line of Mail I have found that entering the name of a standard group to which I have dragged contacts (from the Smart group of the same group of people) then Mail WILL auto complete as expected. How does this work for others? Tim On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:06 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Ronni I understand it is working for you, but Mail does not auto complete the group name for me, nor apparently Peter. Previous versions used to, now they don't. I understand and agree with principles of only using bcc. The failing here is the address not auto completing. All I see is the plain text of the group name as I have typed, nothing changes, nor indicates any acceptance by Mail of the address. I'll leave it for tonight and see if I can find any settings in Mail or Contacts another time. Tim Sent from my iPad On 29/10/2013, at 22:46, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:37 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. All the Addresses should NOT show. BCC will only show the Group Name 'business contacts' or whatever your Group is named. That is the correct way to send undisclosed recipients. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. As it should and always has. I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, is it working or is it not? It is working as I mentioned in my original reply to Peter I sent a couple of Group emails today without any problems. I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then tabbed or clicked to the next field. You still can if you want to show all the recipients addresses in the Group In a new message, start to type the Group name in the TO: section, then when it auto completes the name... It shows live, hold your cursor on the group name, click the tiny arrow Expand Group Then the Group Name is gone and all the recipients names addresses show. All are live! Finish your message hit send. But you should not send Group emails this way with everyones address showing. That is why it is correct to send all Group emails using the Group Name in the BCC field. Cheers, Ronni Thanks Tim -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Email to group
Yes Ronni, it is what you said. I didn't 'see' the difference in a created group and a smart group in your instructions. Be that as it is, With previous versions, it made no difference whether it was a smart group or not, as far as I recall. I have routinely used Mail bcc to send to the same smart group, now it won't do that. Unless there is an error in something I am doing, I will need to find another way. This may not be difficult or onerous, and may be as simple as clearing the previous recipients list as has been suggested, but it is different, and may in fact been the same problem Peter experienced - which is why I chimed in in case there was a system glitch affecting some users. One workaround is in Contacts, to right click on the group name, smart group or normal group, and select 'send email to group'. If Mail will not auto complete from a Smart Group, so be it. Seems like a loss of functionality to me, and not very helpful. It is very convenient to simply add a keyword in a new Contact and for Smart groups to find that keyword, and bring it into the group. Yes, I can drag the contact into a manually created group, but it's extra thing to have to do. Tim Sent from my iPad On 30/10/2013, at 13:09, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, Isn't that what I explained in my first reply to Peter... I never mentioned to create a Smart Group? This is exactly what my first reply was: /Quote: 1. Basically you first Create your Group in Contacts.app File New Group Name the Group Business Projects (or whatever) Select the contacts addresses for your group and drag them to the group. 2.Then drag the group name from the Contact Panel to an address field, or type the first few letters of the group's name and let automatic address completion do the rest. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: /End Quote: Cheers, Ronni On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:09 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Hello, A bit more testing this morning. I have found that entering the name of a 'Smart Group' created in Contacts will NOT auto complete in the Address line of Mail I have found that entering the name of a standard group to which I have dragged contacts (from the Smart group of the same group of people) then Mail WILL auto complete as expected. How does this work for others? Tim On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:06 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: Ronni I understand it is working for you, but Mail does not auto complete the group name for me, nor apparently Peter. Previous versions used to, now they don't. I understand and agree with principles of only using bcc. The failing here is the address not auto completing. All I see is the plain text of the group name as I have typed, nothing changes, nor indicates any acceptance by Mail of the address. I'll leave it for tonight and see if I can find any settings in Mail or Contacts another time. Tim Sent from my iPad On 29/10/2013, at 22:46, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Tim, On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:37 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: On 29 Oct 2013, at 9:21 pm, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote: In Mail, if I type in the Groups name, enter a Subject and write some text in the body of the email, then click Save. Then reopen it as Ronni has suggested, the Groups name has not become live. In Mail, I enter the Group name in the BCC field. the group name does not appear to change, it just stays as plain text - 'business contacts' for example If I click on the red button to close that window, I get offered the option to save as a draft. Click Yes. When viewing the email in list view, all the addresses do NOT appear, and when the email is opened, none of the addresses appear. All the Addresses should NOT show. BCC will only show the Group Name 'business contacts' or whatever your Group is named. That is the correct way to send undisclosed recipients. Netiquette: To ensure that recipients see neither each other's addresses nor a bogus To address, enter the group name in the Bcc field instead of To or Cc. The To field in the message each recipient gets will say undisclosed-recipients: So it appears to only be affecting the BCC field. As it should and always has. I would really like the Group title to indicate it has registered in any of the Address lines, not just stay as plain text. That's disconcerting, is it working or is it not? It is working as I mentioned in my original reply to Peter I sent a couple of Group emails today without any problems. I'm pretty sure it used to change in previous versions and you could view all the addresses as soon as you write the group name then
